I was listening to Ride or Die from Hard Knock Life Vol. 2 and it was easy to tell Jay was going at someone. I just assumed it was a power move against Nas before beef because in both of them he mentions getting ****ed for publishing. Rumor has it that it was a Mase diss: "Check ya own videos you'll always be #2"

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Post other subliminal disses that you've heard, that's clearly toward someone.

Yeah, he was firing shots at Mase for his verse on 112's "Love Me" where he said "What we hear is platinum that, platinum this/Platinum whips, nobody got no platinum hits”

BIG went in on Pac on:

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Ghostface and Rae took shots at BIG on the Shark Biters skit and at 50 on the Clyde Smith skit.

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Joe Budden and Jay-Z took shots at each other on the same song

Yeah, he was firing shots at Mase for his verse on 112's "Love Me" where he said "What we hear is platinum that, platinum this/Platinum whips, nobody got no platinum hits”

BIG went in on Pac on:


Ghostface and Rae took shots at BIG on the Shark Biters skit and at 50 on the Clyde Smith skit.

Good ****, Jay smacked him back ten times harder though Ride or Die goes hard.

Big got it in. Even though Puffsays it's to no other rapper its obvious.

I knew about Shark Biters. The line in Ice Water where Rae says "To top it off, beef with White, grabbed bleach tried to throw it in my eyesight." Not really subliminal though. Lol.
Joe Budden and Jay-Z took shots at each other on the same song

Yeah, I heard about that. Budden supposedly wanted to do an official remix to Pump It Up and Jay responded with how much Joe gotta pay him for it. Joe couldn't/wouldn't pay it.

After some time, Jay drops the freestyle on the Pump It Up beat and calls it a jack move with other subliminal disses mixed in.

Good ****, Jay smacked him back ten times harder though Ride or Die goes hard.

Big got it in. Even though Puffsays it's to no other rapper its obvious.

I knew about Shark Biters. The line in Ice Water where Rae says "To top it off, beef with White, grabbed bleach tried to throw it in my eyesight." Not really subliminal though. Lol.


Mase got iced and there was a good reason why he never responded to Jay after that. Long Kiss Goodnight was so obvious, the line where he says "I heard through the grapevine, you got ****ked 4 times.." was a blatant reference to Pac allegedly gettin ****ked in jail.

The Rae line was a jab at BIG, not meant to be subliminal and BIG replied with his "throw bleach in your eye.." line on Kick in the Door. While we're talking about that, Kick in the Door was a diss to Ghost.. Rae.. Nas.. DJ Premier.. Jeru

Disrespect Fat Joe, the Don Carta And I'ma have to jig a ***** like Shawn Carter

Big Pun

Jig means stab and it's clever wordplay from Pun "Jigga *****" "Shawn Carter". But I've read somewhere where Pun and Jay actually got into an argument or something. Sorry no link, can't confirm. :dunno:

Mase got iced and there was a good reason why he never responded to Jay after that. Long Kiss Goodnight was so obvious, the line where he says "I heard through the grapevine, you got ****ked 4 times.." was a blatant reference to Pac allegedly gettin ****ked in jail.

The Rae line was a jab at BIG, not meant to be subliminal and BIG replied with his "throw bleach in your eye.." line on Kick in the Door. While we're talking about that, Kick in the Door was a diss to Ghost.. Rae.. Nas.. DJ Premier.. Jeru

Yeah that entire second verse sounds like a direct shot.

I was looking at the Kin In The Door lyrics and couldn't connect it to anyone except Raekwon. The other lines seem like they could fit anyone.

@ Wangler I heard Jay and Joe have beef til this day because someone from TS (Pun?) hit Jigga over the head with a bottle. Can't confirm either, but that's what google's for.

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Fake thug, no love, you get the slug, CB4 Gusto
Your luck low, I didn't know til I was drunk though/
You freak *****z played out, get ****ed and ate out
Prostitute turned *****, I got the gauge out/
96 ways I made out, Montana way
The Good-F-E-L-L-A, verbal AK spray/
Dipped attache, jumped out the Range, empty out the ashtray
A glass of 'ze make a man Cassius Clay/

Shots at 2Pac or at least 2Pac took them personal and part of the reason he started going at Nas. I know 2Pac was talking about drinking Alize at the time.

Good ****, Jay smacked him back ten times harder though Ride or Die goes hard.

Big got it in. Even though Puffsays it's to no other rapper its obvious.

I knew about Shark Biters. The line in Ice Water where Rae says "To top it off, beef with White, grabbed bleach tried to throw it in my eyesight." Not really subliminal though. Lol.




big responded to rae with that line off kick in the door. "This goes out for those that choose to use
Disrespectful views on the King of NY
**** that, why try, throw bleach in your eye
Now ya Braille in it, stash that light ****, or scalin it"

Yeah that entire second verse sounds like a direct shot.

I was looking at the Kin In The Door lyrics and couldn't connect it to anyone except Raekwon. The other lines seem like they could fit anyone.

@ Wangler I heard Jay and Joe have beef til this day because someone from TS (Pun?) hit Jigga over the head with a bottle. Can't confirm either, but that's what google's for.

kick in the door was mostly going at nas.

Yall aint ever heard Im no killa?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7a5XevpcL0

Mase and jay both got eachother real good with the subliminals, and I thought the beef ended when Mase got ran outta harlem? Mase and Jay were both two of the top 5 biggest rappers in 98

What about how Nas and common used to send subliminals at eachother? Common was real slick...this was on Chi City, from 2005

I'm back like a chiropract wit b-boy survival rap
This ain't '94 Joe we can't go back
The game need a makeover
My man retired, I'ma take over
Tell these halftime n!ggas, break's over
I'm raw hustlas getcha bakin' soda
Too many rape the culture
Leave rappers with careers and their faith over
It's a war goin' on you can't fake bein' a soldier

He might have been going at jay-Z although he did call him "my man"...I dont remember the two of them ever collabin, but maybe he was just givin jay props for dissin nas