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PBDS
12-02-2004, 10:08 AM
Peter ready to silence Williams!

December 2, 2004

By Andre Courtemanche

“I don’t need to watch any tapes. I’m going to see him on Saturday, and then we’ll meet man to man. Whatever he brings, I’ll take it down and prove I’m a real man and a true champion.” Sam Peter

Heavyweight up-and-comer Samuel Peter, 20-0 (17), says he isn’t angry about the pre-fight comments of his next opponent, Jeremy Williams, in fact he finds them somewhat humorous. But when the two meet for the vacant NABF Heavyweight title this Saturday, in the opening fight of an action-packed Showtime tripleheader at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, Peter says the time for joking will be over. “War is war,” he explained, “He can talk all he wants until I get him in the ring.”

Peter was reacting to Williams’ assertion earlier in the week, that “The Nigerian Nightmare” hasn’t packed the same punching power since stepping up against Charles Shufford and Jovo Pudar (both W10) in his last two fights. “He’s just saying that because he’s never been in the ring with me. Saturday he’ll see what I’m going to do to him. He’ll see if I can punch or not.”

At just 24 years of age, this is hardly as “die or die” for young Peter as it may be for the veteran Williams, but with promoters Duva Boxing and manager Ivalyo Gotzev crying long and loud that Peter is the future of heavyweight boxing, Saturday’s fight may be a chance for the young slugger to begin proving it. “I feel great. I’m really ready and focused for this fight. I said was going to eat him alive and that’s what I’m going to do.”

Gotzev, the quote machine/manager says that Williams’ remarks have more to do with himself than Sam Peter. “Jeremy Williams has to build his confidence up. He has to build a bubble around him, but that bubble will be burst on Saturday. He has to go to bed every night and the only way he can do that is by believing what he’s saying. But the nightmare will hit him hard. Talk is cheap, what happens in the ring is what matters. Samuel has never been in better shape in his life. The bottom line is that the heavyweight division will see who the man in charge is on Saturday night”

A young heavyweight must pass tests such as these if he is to reach the top of the pile. Williams is a dangerous puncher coming off two impressive victories over other would-be prospects. “I’m in great shape and I’m ready,” said Peter.

Gotzev concurs. “No excuses, Samuel is ready. Jeremy Williams is in for a big surprise. I hope he’s still able to tell jokes after the fight because what’s going to happen to him on Saturday won’t be funny. As a manager, I could not feel any better about this fight. Knowing what this man is capable of doing and what he’s going to do to Williams gives me butterflies."

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The Jose Luis Castillo vs. Joel Casamayor; Jeff Lacy vs. Omar Sheika and Jeremy Williams vs. Samuel Peter bouts will be shown live on the Showtime network, Saturday, December 4, 2004, at 9:00 PM ET/PT from the Mandalay Bay Hotel and Casino in

Tyson'scolon
12-02-2004, 10:18 AM
Jeremy Williams SUCKS! He was KNOCKED OUT (or took a dive, depending on who you believe) By BRIAN FREAKIN' NEILSEN, battered senseless by Mo Harris and Henry Akinwande and spanked by Davarryl Williamson in that "Fistfull of Dollars" crap a while back. He's a big mouth idiot who thinks he's hot **** just because he had a bit part in some crappy direct to video movie about 10 years ago.
For some reason, the Maxboxing crew are hugging the guys nuts so hard that he was somehow able to land another TV fight. He sucks, and I hope Peter knocks his head into the cheap seats. I can't wait.

INFAMOUZ
12-02-2004, 10:19 AM
This may sound crazy, but this fight has potential and may be one of the bigger suprises come Saturday night.

Peter is 6'1" and weighs around 250....he is not the poster boy for conditioning, either. If he can't take out Williams early, don't be suprised to see Jeremy go the distance and perhaps pull off the upset. But, maybe not. lol. I have seen Big Samuel "peter" out down the stretch, and his last two fights (if I'm not mistaken) have gone the distance.

IMO, a lot of the younger fighters are stepping it up this weekend:

Juarez/Espadas....damn big step up for Ricardo aka Rocky.

Lacy/Sheika: may not be a huge step up, but Sheika has some power. Could be an early night though, too.

Taylor/Joppy: This is Jermain's first fight vs. a TRUE middleweight, not a blown up junior middleweight.

n14061981
12-02-2004, 10:33 AM
Williams does have a good chanche, but mostly failed in the big fights. Lets see what happens.

scap
12-02-2004, 10:56 AM
I think Infamouz is right this fight is going to be a lot of fun too watch...PEter does not appear to be the heir apparent but I hope he dominates Williams and makes boxing fans rethink their opinions of him.

paul750
04-11-2005, 06:25 PM
the memories of this fight..... jeremy half chin half man williams

Truth
04-11-2005, 06:56 PM
Samuel Peter might be able to make some noise in the heavyweight division, he has a powerful punch.

Neuraxis
04-11-2005, 08:19 PM
Not if he keeps fighting the Gilbert Martinez's of the heavyweight division.

Super_Lightweight
04-11-2005, 08:26 PM
Not if he keeps fighting the Gilbert Martinez's of the heavyweight division.

And what would make you think he would do that? He is young and still a kind of prospect/contender. You are pretty judgemental and ignorant if you think Peter will never fight a fighter better than Martinez. Hell, he already has in Diaz (not to say Diaz is great or anything).

Neuraxis
04-11-2005, 08:49 PM
And what would make you think he would do that? He is young and still a kind of prospect/contender. You are pretty judgemental and ignorant if you think Peter will never fight a fighter better than Martinez. Hell, he already has in Diaz (not to say Diaz is great or anything).

Williams is better than Diaz, but either way they were two fairly good, low B/high C level opponents, and then he fights Martinez after this. Fighting someone who is probably not even a top 100 heavyweight is a huge step backwards and a huge waste of Peter's time and talent.

SacTown1
04-11-2005, 09:00 PM
Williams is better than Diaz, but either way they were two fairly good, low B/high C level opponents, and then he fights Martinez after this. Fighting someone who is probably not even a top 100 heavyweight is a huge step backwards and a huge waste of Peter's time and talent.
There is such a thing as a "stay-busy" fight, and that's exactly what Peter-Martinez is....remember, HBO only has so much $ and so many dates each year

Neuraxis
04-11-2005, 10:12 PM
There is such a thing as a "stay-busy" fight, and that's exactly what Peter-Martinez is....remember, HBO only has so much $ and so many dates each year

This is where you are supposed to point me to someone else who is in the top 10 at any weight class who has a "stay-busy" fight against someone who isn't even in the top 100, especially after Peter looked worlds better against Williams and Diaz then he did against two much lesser opponents in his previous two fights, Pudar and Shufford.

Super_Lightweight
04-12-2005, 12:59 AM
This is where you are supposed to point me to someone else who is in the top 10 at any weight class who has a "stay-busy" fight against someone who isn't even in the top 100, especially after Peter looked worlds better against Williams and Diaz then he did against two much lesser opponents in his previous two fights, Pudar and Shufford.

have you even seen Charles Shufford fight? Have you seen his performances vs Williams' performances? If you had, then you would not say a dumb thing like "two much lesser opponents" and name one of them being Shufford.

Maybe we should hate on Wlad for fighting Fabio "Roli-Poli" Moli.

Neuraxis
04-12-2005, 01:29 AM
have you even seen Charles Shufford fight? Have you seen his performances vs Williams' performances? If you had, then you would not say a dumb thing like "two much lesser opponents" and name one of them being Shufford.

Maybe we should hate on Wlad for fighting Fabio "Roli-Poli" Moli.

You are forgetting who is in my avatar, Dr. Steelhammer, so that is one fight that I saw Shufford in. Needless to say Shufford looked horrible. I also saw him get destroyed by McCline. I also see that Shufford has lost to one Gilbert Martinez who Williams TKO'd in 9, Clay-Bey, and Robert Davis. Williams is notorious for having a bad chin and he has lost by KO to Nielsen and Akinwande and was outboxed by Harris and Donald in an MD. Williams has by far lost to superior opposition and beaten superior opposition (Brewster and the other Castillo vs. Nicholson, Levin, Purlette, Martinez, Jackson, and Bostice). If they had fought Williams would have walked right through him as Shufford has ZERO power. Williams is better than Shufford. Deal with it.

Wlad fought Moli after his brutal loss to Sanders. The last time I checked Peter brutally beat Diaz. But either way I agree. Moli was a wasted fight for Wlad. Wlad has said this on numerous occasions which is why he fought TOS instead of some bum after he lost to Brewster.

Super_Lightweight
04-12-2005, 01:45 AM
Needless to say Shufford looked horrible. I also saw him get destroyed by McCline. I also see that Shufford has lost to one Gilbert Martinez who Williams TKO'd in 9, Clay-Bey, and Robert Davis. Williams is notorious for having a bad chin and he has lost by KO to Nielsen and Akinwande and was outboxed by Harris and Donald in an MD. Williams has by far lost to superior opposition and beaten superior opposition (Brewster and the other Castillo vs. Nicholson, Levin, Purlette, Martinez, Jackson, and Bostice). If they had fought Williams would have walked right through him as Shufford has ZERO power. Williams is better than Shufford. Deal with it.

Wlad fought Moli after his brutal loss to Sanders. The last time I checked Peter brutally beat Diaz. But either way I agree. Moli was a wasted fight for Wlad. Wlad has said this on numerous occasions which is why he fought TOS instead of some bum after he lost to Brewster.

So what if Shufford looked horrible vs Wlad? That was back when Wlad was killing everyone. So that point means little to nothing.

His fight vs McCline was stopped too early, and Shufford was certainly not destroyed in that fight. It was an even fight when the early stoppage came.

Nieslen, Brewster, Castillo, Harris, and Donald are all nothing special. If that's what you use to make your case that "Shufford is a much lesser fighter than Williams" then it is case weaker than Wlad's chin.

So you can "deal" with that. Ok?

Neuraxis
04-12-2005, 03:05 AM
So what if Shufford looked horrible vs Wlad? That was back when Wlad was killing everyone. So that point means little to nothing.

His fight vs McCline was stopped too early, and Shufford was certainly not destroyed in that fight. It was an even fight when the early stoppage came.

Nieslen, Brewster, Castillo, Harris, and Donald are all nothing special. If that's what you use to make your case that "Shufford is a much lesser fighter than Williams" then it is case weaker than Wlad's chin.

So you can "deal" with that. Ok?

Notice how you missed the fact that Williams beat Martinez, but Martinez beat Shufford.

Super_Lightweight
04-12-2005, 11:23 AM
Notice how you missed the fact that Williams beat Martinez, but Martinez beat Shufford.

NO, I didn't miss it. Thanks for the help, though. I thought you only buy into the "Fighter A is better than fighter B because fighter A beat fighter C and fighter B didn't" theory when it applies to DM, but I guess it goes for Jeremy Williams too.

In any case, my only point is that Williams is not "much better" than Shufford. That's a big overstatement

guru
04-12-2005, 12:23 PM
i think peter looks like the next coming of ray mercer... big puncher, who can take a punch, but is otherwise limited... i dont think he's all that great, but with division so weak he's stands a good chance to make some noice...

Neuraxis
04-12-2005, 01:51 PM
i think peter looks like the next coming of ray mercer... big puncher, who can take a punch, but is otherwise limited... i dont think he's all that great, but with division so weak he's stands a good chance to make some noice...

I'd welcome that if I had actually seen any evidence of him being able to take a punch. As for now he's a big puncher who may or may not be able to take a punch.

guru
04-12-2005, 01:57 PM
i'm guessing cause of his short, thick neck that he can take a punch... he looks like he can anyways...

alot of people are excited about his win over williams, but to me it means nothing... he did what he was supposed to... lets not forget willams was one punch KO'd by akinwande and he lost brain neilsen as well

Neuraxis
04-12-2005, 02:03 PM
NO, I didn't miss it. Thanks for the help, though. I thought you only buy into the "Fighter A is better than fighter B because fighter A beat fighter C and fighter B didn't" theory when it applies to DM, but I guess it goes for Jeremy Williams too.

In any case, my only point is that Williams is not "much better" than Shufford. That's a big overstatement

Why you think Williams is so bad that you think that he is as good as Shufford is still a mystery to me though. The guy has fought, beaten, and lost to much better competition than Shufford has.

masterdirector
04-12-2005, 03:16 PM
I can't believe anybody thought Jeremey Williams was anything, LOL. First time I saw him like in 2000 I said he sucked. And I'm pretty positive he won that match, whoever it was.

RwK
04-12-2005, 03:17 PM
I can't believe anybody thought Jeremey Williams was anything, LOL. First time I saw him like in 2000 I said he sucked. And I'm pretty positive he won that match, whoever it was.

Getting Stopped by Brian Neilson is not impressive. Yes.

Neuraxis
04-12-2005, 03:17 PM
I can't believe anybody thought Jeremey Williams was anything, LOL. First time I saw him like in 2000 I said he sucked. And I'm pretty positive he won that match, whoever it was.

He's not much, but he's certainly more than Shufford.

RwK
04-12-2005, 03:29 PM
He's not much, but he's certainly more than Shufford.

Why in the hell did anyone think Charles Shufford was a better fighter than Williams? That is absurd.

masterdirector
04-12-2005, 03:40 PM
I don't think it'd be too absurd. I'd put them at around the same level myself. They both suck. Shufford seems like less of an ass.