View Full Version : Felix Trinidad vs Prince Naseem: Who WINS??


Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 10:50 PM
naseem by KO .. LOL..damn naseem is tiny

http://denji102.geo.kyushu-u.ac.jp/denji/student/graduate/yonemoto/trinidad.jpg

Alpha Male
05-23-2005, 10:52 PM
No brainer. Tito by vicious KO in the 1st minute.

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 10:53 PM
No brainer. Tito by vicious KO in the 1st minute.

really dang I thought naseem had a chance too

as214
05-23-2005, 10:54 PM
The caption on that pic should say "Two of the most overrated fighters of this era"

SuckaPunch
05-23-2005, 11:01 PM
They probably weigh the same right now.

joeboxer
05-23-2005, 11:02 PM
Prince Nutsuck vs. Cheeto hmmmmmmmmm............

PBF would **** them both up.

At the same time.

While playing Nintendo.

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:12 PM
Prince Nutsuck vs. Cheeto hmmmmmmmmm............

PBF would **** them both up.

At the same time.

While playing Nintendo.


i wouldnt go that far

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:13 PM
They probably weigh the same right now.

if trinidad is overrated then perhaps pac is overrated

SuckaPunch
05-23-2005, 11:14 PM
if trinidad is overrated then perhaps pac is overrated

Hehe, what have i done, i wasn't the one who said tito was overrated.

oldgringo
05-23-2005, 11:21 PM
The caption on that pic should say "Two of the most overrated fighters of this era"


Overrated by idiots...not by reasonable boxing fans. Hamed was one of the best feathers of the last 15 years and Trinidad was one of the best 147 pounders of the last 15 years. Both are HOF fighters.

Moon
05-23-2005, 11:22 PM
Trinidad was not really a threat at Middleweight, so i think Naz should take the fight. Good news is Nazzy doesn't need to working about making weight.

{BrownBomber}
05-23-2005, 11:23 PM
Overrated by idiots...not by reasonable boxing fans. Hamed was one of the best feathers of the last 15 years and Trinidad was one of the best 147 pounders of the last 15 years. Both are HOF fighters.
You are right again. :D

as214
05-23-2005, 11:23 PM
Overrated by idiots...not by reasonable boxing fans. Hamed was one of the best feathers of the last 15 years and Trinidad was one of the best 147 pounders of the last 15 years. Both are HOF fighters.


Name one Hall of Fame fighter in their Prime that either one of the two legitimately beat

Manny_P
05-23-2005, 11:24 PM
I would love to see Hamed get knocked out by Pac, LOL. Barrera was too cautious to do it. Far from happenin though cuz that foo Hamed aint a schola!

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:29 PM
Name one Hall of Fame fighter in their Prime that either one of the two legitimately beat

trinidad beat a prime VARGAS and destroyed his career basically..he ended the careers of reid and joppy...scored wins vs campas, dlh(although controversial), whitaker..faught only the best..lost to winky and hopkins...HE ONLY FAUGHT THE BEST so by your standards
if you dont beat hall of famer in their prime then u dont get to be in the hall of fame?....most of the fighters fighting now havent beat hall of famers

oldgringo
05-23-2005, 11:35 PM
Name one Hall of Fame fighter in their Prime that either one of the two legitimately beat


You don't need to beat a HOF fighter in their prime to make the list of not being overrated. Anything I say, you are going to nitpick, so whats the point. Anyway...

Trinidads beaten:
Camacho
Campas
Carr
Whitaker
DLH
Reid
Vargas
Joppy
Mayorga

He's also been major belt holder in 2 divisions. 42 and 2 with 35 KOs speaks for itself. So he lost to 2 other HOF fighters and received a gift decision against DLH...is that HIS fault? No...

Hameds beaten:
Ingle
McCullough
Sanchez
Vazquez
Soto
Molina
Medina
etc...

Again, he lost to an all-time great in Barerra who just had his number and fought a great fight. Hamed was quite dominant up until that point.

Some crazy bastards overrate them but they weren't severely overrated by reasonable people. They were both great fighters so can it. BTW I HATE Felix Trinidad so don't try and accuse me of being a "nuthugger" or any of that bull****.

as214
05-23-2005, 11:39 PM
trinidad beat a prime VARGAS and destroyed his career basically..he ended the careers of reid and joppy...scored wins vs campas, dlh(although controversial), whitaker..faught only the best..lost to winky and hopkins...HE ONLY FAUGHT THE BEST so by your standards
if you dont beat hall of famer in their prime then u dont get to be in the hall of fame?....most of the fighters fighting now havent beat hall of famers


Trinidad had to cheat to beat a prime Vargas.. Vargas isnt even going to the Hall of Fame, he wasnt domionate over a significant period of time.. Reid and Joppy arent Hall of fame fighters.. DLH won 8 rounds when he fought Tito, Tito was gift wrapped an unjust decision.. A prime Whitaker would have pitched a shutout on Tito, Tito beat a drugged out older version of Pete.. DLH, Winky, and BHop All future Hall of Famers have schooled Tito when they fought him and they were all in their primes..

joeboxer
05-23-2005, 11:45 PM
i wouldnt go that far

how can you disagree with me????

Have you seen PBF's nintendo skillz?

There Crazy!

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:45 PM
Trinidad had to cheat to beat a prime Vargas.. Vargas isnt even going to the Hall of Fame, he wasnt domionate over a significant period of time.. Reid and Joppy arent Hall of fame fighters.. DLH won 8 rounds when he fought Tito, Tito was gift wrapped an unjust decision.. A prime Whitaker would have pitched a shutout on Tito, Tito beat a drugged out older version of Pete.. DLH, Winky, and BHop All future Hall of Famers have schooled Tito when they fought him and they were all in their primes..

although i feel that DLH should be in the hall of fame..WHat prime hall of famer has DLH BEAT?????????? he lost to trinidad and he lost to hopkins..tell me what prime hall of famer did he beat ? jackass.. if DLH is a hall of famer why isnt tito? who did winky beat to be a hall of famer? what prime hall of famer did winky beat? idiot you are contradicting yourself hater

oldgringo
05-23-2005, 11:49 PM
although i feel that DLH should be in the hall of fame..WHat prime hall of famer has DLH BEAT?????????? he lost to trinidad and he lost to hopkins..tell me what prime hall of famer did he beat ? jackass.. if DLH is a hall of famer why isnt tito? who did winky beat to be a hall of famer? what prime hall of famer did winky beat? idiot you are contradicting yourself hater


I love to see the emotion. I've never seen you get pissed thats cool. I agree too.

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:51 PM
I love to see the emotion. I've never seen you get pissed thats cool. I agree too.

only cause this fool is a idiot..he says trinidad is not a hall of famer becuase he did not beat a prime hall of famer then he turns around and says winky is a hall of famer and probably based on the fact he just beat trinidad..but trinidad is suppose to be overrated right? that fool is a idiot

as214
05-23-2005, 11:52 PM
although i feel that DLH should be in the hall of fame..WHat prime hall of famer has DLH BEAT?????????? he lost to trinidad and he lost to hopkins..tell me what prime hall of famer did he beat ? jackass.. if DLH is a hall of famer why isnt tito? who did winky beat to be a hall of famer? what prime hall of famer did winky beat? idiot you are contradicting yourself hater


Hey couldnt you find a better fighter to hug nuts on than a wanna be thug who does Chicken dances? DLH BEAT Tito a future Hall of Famer there ya go ***** boy.. Yes he REALLY did beat him!! Also Whitaker was much closer to his prime when DLH beat him.. Dont forget about Jesse james Leija another future Hall of Famer. Yes DLH beat him in his prime..There ya go :)

as214
05-23-2005, 11:54 PM
only cause this fool is a idiot..he says trinidad is not a hall of famer becuase he did not beat a prime hall of famer then he turns around and says winky is a hall of famer and probably based on the fact he just beat trinidad..but trinidad is suppose to be overrated right? that fool is a idiot


WHy do you lie *****boy.. Find where I said that Tito is not a Hall of Famer.. You cant because I never said it.. So you are stupid and you lie too. I said Tito is overrated

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:55 PM
Hey couldnt you find a better fighter to hug nuts on than a wanna be thug who does Chicken dances? DLH BEAT Tito a future Hall of Famer there ya go ***** boy.. Yes he REALLY did beat him!! Also Whitaker was much closer to his prime when DLH beat him.. Dont forget about Jesse james Leija another future Hall of Famer. Yes DLH beat him in his prime..There ya go :)

now your saying dlh beat trinidad a future hall of famer? u just said he wasnt a hall of famer you moron..what kind of idiot are you? some kind of new breed or something..whitaker was past his prime vs dlh and trinidad and trinidad deserves to be in the hall of fame ahead of leija..who did winky beat again?

Manny_P
05-23-2005, 11:55 PM
Tito Tito Tito Tito Tito Titoo hyped in most peoples' book!

oldgringo
05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
WHy do you lie *****boy.. Find where I said that Tito is not a Hall of Famer.. You cant because I never said it.. So you are stupid and you lie too. I said Tito is overrated


Which I proved wrong...

IwatchBoxing
05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
Trinidad sucks so bad, some people live to hate him like AS***, for such an overrated fighter his threads sure go pretty far, even without his fans posting, I just came back from an outdoor mall next to the American Airline Arena where the Heat game was being played, and frankly I'm shocked this thread hasnt died out yet, face it, some people worthship Trinidad, and it aint even us Puerto Ricans LOL.

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:56 PM
Name one Hall of Fame fighter in their Prime that either one of the two legitimately beat


you were challenging old gringos statement that trinidad is a hall of famer homo

as214
05-23-2005, 11:57 PM
now your saying dlh beat trinidad a future hall of famer? u just said he wasnt a hall of famer you moron..what kind of idiot are you? some kind of new breed or something..whitaker was past his prime vs dlh and trinidad and trinidad deserves to be in the hall of fame ahead of leija..who did winky beat again?


Please post my thread where I said Tito isnt a Hall of Famer.. Do you always make things up to try to glamorize your points? Tito is overrated plain and simple..

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:58 PM
and most of us didnt even have tito in our top 10 p4p lists so how was he overrated? he was a monster at 147

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:58 PM
Please post my thread where I said Tito isnt a Hall of Famer.. Do you always make things up to try to glamorize your points? Tito is overrated plain and simple..

you are a moron plain and simple

as214
05-23-2005, 11:59 PM
you were challenging old gringos statement that trinidad is a hall of famer homo


I thought you just said that I said Tito isnt a Hall of Famer.. Man if you werent so stupid I'd laugh at you.. Now I just pity you.. By the way I cant wait to see your boy get ***** slapped again by Kosta!! BTW.. Kosta is a Hall of Famer, Zab Judah is not!!

Zab Super Judah
05-23-2005, 11:59 PM
what was your point to bring up that trinidad didnt beat a hall of famer? winkys got incredible skills but wins over mosley and trinidad make him a hall of famer already?

Zab Super Judah
05-24-2005, 12:00 AM
I thought you just said that I said Tito isnt a Hall of Famer.. Man if you werent so stupid I'd laugh at you.. Now I just pity you.. By the way I cant wait to see your boy get ***** slapped again by Kosta!! BTW.. Kosta is a Hall of Famer, Zab Judah is not!!

never said judah was a hall of famer stupid prick

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:00 AM
Please post my thread where I said Tito isnt a Hall of Famer.. Do you always make things up to try to glamorize your points? Tito is overrated plain and simple..

Trinidad is not the greatest boxer of all time but he sure is one of the best fighters of his generation. The facts speak for themselves. What has Trinidad done to you anyway? Did you lose a ****load of money because of him or something?

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:00 AM
I'm gay and suck dick
Wow, As214!! Too much information !!

Zab Super Judah
05-24-2005, 12:01 AM
Trinidad is not the greatest boxer of all time but he sure is one of the best fighters of his generation. The facts speak for themselves. What has Trinidad done to you anyway? Did you lose a ****load of money because of him or something?


trinidad lost to winky thast why hes off the wagon

as214
05-24-2005, 12:02 AM
what was your point to bring up that trinidad didnt beat a hall of famer? winkys got incredible skills but wins over mosley and trinidad make him a hall of famer already?


Yes because Mosley is a future Hall of Famer and Winky beat him twice convincingly.. Winky dominated and humiliated Tito a future hall of Famer.. Tito has never even beaten a prime future hall of famer, never mind even dominating them.. Tito is overrated.. He is an all time very good fighter, not a great fighter!! Great fighters dont keep walking into a jab for twelve rounds because they are too stupid to try anything else!!

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 12:04 AM
AS I find it funny that you haven't responded to my post that showed why Tito ISN'T overrated.

Name a HOF fighter who was in his "prime" that Tszyu beat. Oh yeah thats right you can't because he didn't beat any HOF fighters in their prime yet you're sitting here praising him.

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:04 AM
I like rubbing my man breasts while watching Tito.....Ohhhh TITO TITO TITO TITO!!!!DONT LEAVE ME!!
Hahahaha ***.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 12:05 AM
Yes because Mosley is a future Hall of Famer and Winky beat him twice convincingly.. Winky dominated and humiliated Tito a future hall of Famer.. Tito has never even beaten a prime future hall of famer, never mind even dominating them.. Tito is overrated.. He is an all time very good fighter, not a great fighter!! Great fighters dont keep walking into a jab for twelve rounds because they are too stupid to try anything else!!


By this logic Tszyu is overrated for not doing the same (beating a HOF fighter in their prime) and for losing to Vince Phillips.

Moselys "prime" was at 135 and 147 for a short while. Tito's was at 147 and 154 for a short while so Winky is overrated by the same logic.

Manny_P
05-24-2005, 12:06 AM
Yes because Mosley is a future Hall of Famer and Winky beat him twice convincingly.. Winky dominated and humiliated Tito a future hall of Famer.. Tito has never even beaten a prime future hall of famer, never mind even dominating them.. Tito is overrated.. He is an all time very good fighter, not a great fighter!! Great fighters dont keep walking into a jab for twelve rounds because they are too stupid to try anything else!!

cold truth bein laid on them tables waitin fo those foos enough to eat them witout realize it's been expired. well said, I partially agreed.

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:06 AM
trinidad lost to winky thast why hes off the wagon

Who's off the wagon, 214? This guy never gave Trinidad any props.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:06 AM
Wow, As214!! Too much information !!



Hey you're cool.. You can make things up like that.. Too bad your countries pride and joy got beat so badly . Too bad he wasnt man enough to even put up a fight against a man who on your own countries turf desecrated it's flag!! Maybe if Tito had the heart of an Italian he'd be a great fighter.. But instead he's just a loudmouth who talks about killing his opponents and then gets his ass handed to him and crys like a little ***** and runs bad to Puerto Rico!!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:08 AM
HOWDY!!! I'M A REDNECK !! you wanna eat some horse ****? Smells reallllll good
No thanks.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 12:09 AM
Isn't it interesting how he won't answer my posts?

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:10 AM
Hey you're cool.. You can make things up like that.. Too bad your countries pride and joy got beat so badly . Too bad he wasnt man enough to even put up a fight against a man who on your own countries turf desecrated it's flag!! Maybe if Tito had the heart of an Italian he'd be a great fighter.. But instead he's just a loudmouth who talks about killing his opponents and then gets his ass handed to him and crys like a little ***** and runs bad to Puerto Rico!!

While I don't agree with Trinidad's retirement, that is not a reason to call him a crybaby. A fighter who became a 5 time world champion in 3 weight divisions and faced the best fighters that his generation had to offer is far from being a little *****.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:13 AM
While I don't agree with Trinidad's retirement, that is not a reason to call him a crybaby. A fighter who became a 5 time world champion in 3 weight divisions and faced the best fighters that his generation had to offer is far from a little *****.


He is a *****.. He has no heart.. He quit against Winky because of frustration.. You can tell the last couple of rounds in their fight. You can also tell alot about a person by the way they handle defeat, no matter what they do in life.. His first retirement is strikingly similiar to Naseems retirement!! Tito could have been an all time great.. His inability to adapt and lack of heart stopped him from that!!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:15 AM
He is a *****.. He has no heart.. He quit against Winky because of frustration.. You can tell the last couple of rounds in their fight. You can also tell alot about a person by the way they handle defeat, no matter what they do in life.. His first retirement is strikingly similiar to Naseems retirement!! Tito could have been an all time great.. His inability to adapt and lack of heart stopped him from that!!
Hmmmmm, three words....

as214
05-24-2005, 12:19 AM
Hmmmmm, three words....



Another very intelligent response from the litttle PR *****boy who cries to get people banned because he can give but not take. You can hug Erik Estrada and Titos nuts all day for all I care!! When's the last time you ever saw an Italian quit in a fight and in life ***** boy? Hang onto Boricua and your online chat friends because you have nothing else going for you in life!!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:20 AM
Another very intelligent response from the litttle PR *****boy who cries to get people banned because he can give but not take. You can hug Erik Estrada and Titos nuts all day for all I care!! When's the last time you ever saw an Italian quit in a fight and in life ***** boy? Hang onto Boricua and your online chat friends because you have nothing else going for you in life!!
Never, cause Italians are too scared to fight, they run to their internet for protection like you. :bottle:

Manny_P
05-24-2005, 12:20 AM
So whatup homies? What the latest on my ma man Tito? Last I heard Winky been said that he willin to give Tito his rematch if he wants it nah mean? I jest think Tito shoulnt retire yet fo the sake of showin the foos that dobut him that he aint done. So whats poppin, does Tito want a rematch? Or is the retirement official? I gotta know.

The Teacher
05-24-2005, 12:22 AM
cold truth bein laid on them tables waitin fo those foos enough to eat them witout realize it's been expired. well said, I partially agreed.

You like to dance on tables dont you? haha! you 1 funny guy.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:23 AM
So whatup homies? What the latest on my ma man Tito? Last I heard Winky been said that he willin to give Tito his rematch if he wants it nah mean? I jest think Tito shoulnt retire yet fo the sake of showin the foos that dobut him that he aint done. So whats poppin, does Tito want a rematch? Or is the retirement official? I gotta know.


Because Tito is scared. Imagine threatening to kill an opponent and then he beats you so badly with a jab...Its alright to lose but if the man that beat you is giving you a chance to redeem yourself WHY NOT?

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:24 AM
Because Tito is scared. Imagine threatening to kill an opponent and then he beats you so badly with a jab...Its alright to lose but if the man that beat you is giving you a chance to redeem yourself WHY NOT?
Cause maybe hes doing your mom.

Manny_P
05-24-2005, 12:27 AM
Because Tito is scared. Imagine threatening to kill an opponent and then he beats you so badly with a jab...Its alright to lose but if the man that beat you is giving you a chance to redeem yourself WHY NOT?

ya, in my opinion, if I was Tito, I'd say, **** it. Ill fight Winky again jest to show I got heart nah mean? If he retires, this definitely witouth them shadowin doubt that it will affect Tito's legacy. Fo ****'s sake jest fight Winky again Tito. Arghhhhh!

as214
05-24-2005, 12:30 AM
Cause maybe hes doing your mom.


Wow what a great response. Sounds like a defense mechanism on your part..you know that whole diversion to avoid facing a reality.. That reality is that your countries pride and joy, who you and your *** organization boasted as the second coming..was humiliated and beaten by a jab.. After the loss the maqn who beat him wants to give him a chance to redeem himself and he runs back to PR like a little scared child!! Note.. this happened not once, but two times.. My people are a proud people just like the Mexicans we prefer no talk ,all action!! Apparently Tito and most of your countrymen prefer all talk, no action..

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:31 AM
ya, in my opinion, if I was Tito, I'd say, **** it. Ill fight Winky again jest to show I got heart nah mean? If he retires, this definitely witouth them shadowin doubt that it will affect Tito's legacy. Fo ****'s sake jest fight Winky again Tito. Arghhhhh!

Trinidad should fight a credible, yet beatable opponent and then go for Wright or Hopkins and try to avenge, at least, one of those blemishes. A fight for a belt at 168 would be very attractive and would add to his legacy too.

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:33 AM
Wow what a great response. Sounds like a defense mechanism on your part..you know that whole diversion to avoid facing a reality.. That reality is that your countries pride and joy, who you and your *** organization boasted as the second coming..was humiliated and beaten by a jab.. After the loss the maqn who beat him wants to give him a chance to redeem himself and he runs back to PR like a little scared child!! Note.. this happened not once, but two times.. My people are a proud people just like the Mexicans we prefer no talk ,all action!! Apparently Tito and most of your countrymen prefer all talk, no action..
Stop bull****ing, you are Mexican, dont lie, just be a man about it and come out with it, you just saw West Side Story.

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:34 AM
Wow what a great response. Sounds like a defense mechanism on your part..you know that whole diversion to avoid facing a reality.. That reality is that your countries pride and joy, who you and your *** organization boasted as the second coming..was humiliated and beaten by a jab.. After the loss the maqn who beat him wants to give him a chance to redeem himself and he runs back to PR like a little scared child!! Note.. this happened not once, but two times.. My people are a proud people just like the Mexicans we prefer no talk ,all action!! Apparently Tito and most of your countrymen prefer all talk, no action..

I would appreciate if you stop the *** organization bit. I started it and everytime you have an argument with someone else, you pick on it.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:39 AM
I would appreciate if you stop the *** organization bit. I started it and everytime you have an argument with someone else, you pick on it.


I'm sorry man I didnt realize you started it!! You should have had better control over some in your organization with their actions before the Tito fight.. Their actions combine with the ensuing result certain didnt gain any credibility for your organization. I didnt realize you started it so out of respect to you I will stop. PS.. How did you do on that paper in your college class?

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 12:42 AM
as respond to my posts. responses please.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:44 AM
as respond to my posts. responses please.


The part about by my logic Kosta may be overrated.. Yes Kosta may be slightly overrated, but not nearly as overrated as Tito!!

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:44 AM
I'm sorry man I didnt realize you started it!! You should have had better control over some in your organization with their actions before the Tito fight.. Their actions combine with the ensuing result certain didnt gain any credibility for your organization. I didnt realize you started it so out of respect to you I will stop. PS.. How did you do on that paper in your college class?

I appreciate that. I thought you knew because my sig says that I am The Boricua Organization Boss but anyway. My professor gave me 48 out of 50, so I turned out fine.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:46 AM
I appreciate that. I thought you knew because my sig says that I am The Boricua Organization Boss but anyway. My professor gave me 48 out of 50, so I turned out fine.


Thats 96 percent an A congratulations.. I knew that was a great piece of work!!

as214
05-24-2005, 12:49 AM
as respond to my posts. responses please.


Also the logic that I used that you refer to is based on a full career.. Kosta still has fights against Cotto (a possible future Hall of famer) and Mayweather in his future. He still has the potential looking into the future to solidify his place against top tier future HOFers.. Think about it.. Name one guy in the HOF who hasnt beaten a future HOF fighter in their primes.. I cant think of anycan you?

Slipx
05-24-2005, 12:50 AM
The caption on that pic should say "Two of the most overrated fighters of this era"
tito may be,nas wasn't..he beat a near-prime kevin kelley,and tom johnson...wtf are u talking about overrated.

as214
05-24-2005, 12:55 AM
tito may be,nas wasn't..he beat a near-prime kevin kelley,and tom johnson...wtf are u talking about overrated.


You said it dude.. Hamed beat a NEAR prime Kevin Kelley.. A prime Kevin Kelley would have boxed the sh*t out of Naz.. Barrera easily beat Naz.. Imagine what JMM or Paquio would have done to him.. Face it, your boy was entertaining and powerful but he never beat a Hallof fame fighter in the prime!!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 12:56 AM
You said it dude.. Hamed beat a NEAR prime Kevin Kelley.. A prime Kevin Kelley would have boxed the sh*t out of Naz.. Barrera easily beat Naz.. Imagine what JMM or Paquio would have done to him.. Face it, your boy was entertaining and powerful but he never beat a Hallof fame fighter in the prime!!
Shut up, Barreras overrated, so is Morales, so is Castillo, so is Chavez, so is Margarito.

borikua
05-24-2005, 01:00 AM
1. Champ at the age of 20
2. Made 17 defenses of his 147 title
3. Beat 3 US gold medalists
4. 5 time world champ
5. One of the biggest draws in boxing

42-2-0 35 Ko's....nuff said..

as214
05-24-2005, 01:01 AM
Shut up, Barreras overrated, so is Morales, so is Castillo, so is Chavez, so is Margarito.


Why do you hate Mexicans so much.. I notice that you dont mention any Puerto Rican fighters as being overrated in your tirade!! You have dishonored and disgraced an organization that Exciter started.. You should be ashamed of yourself for your actions before and after Titos second retirement fight!!

MetalVomit
05-24-2005, 01:04 AM
naseem by KO .. LOL..damn naseem is tiny

http://denji102.geo.kyushu-u.ac.jp/denji/student/graduate/yonemoto/trinidad.jpg


that Zoo pick is HILARIOUS. KARMA TO YOU!!!!!!!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 01:08 AM
Why do you hate Mexicans so much.. I notice that you dont mention any Puerto Rican fighters as being overrated in your tirade!! You have dishonored and disgraced an organization that Exciter started.. You should be ashamed of yourself for your actions before and after Titos second retirement fight!!
All Mexican fighters are overrated, there I said it, you gonna cry now? You give Mexicans a bad name.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 01:14 AM
Shut up, Barreras overrated, so is Morales, so is Castillo, so is Chavez, so is Margarito.


False....Barerra and Morales are not overrated by any means and I'll explain to you why they aren't too if you need me to. Again, Chavez is only overrated by unreasonable people. Most Mexican people on this site and people who like Chavez in general that I've talked to don't act like he's god. They recognize him as being a great fighter with an amazing career...but not some unstoppable guy who'd kill everybody. Well, for the most part anyway...

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 01:15 AM
False....Barerra and Morales are not overrated by any means and I'll explain to you why they aren't too if you need me to. Again, Chavez is only overrated by unreasonable people. Most Mexican people on this site and people who like Chavez in general that I've talked to don't act like he's god. They recognize him as being a great fighter with an amazing career...but not some unstoppable guy who'd kill everybody. Well, for the most part anyway...
Castillo is allready being called a living legend, damn, those are some low standards.

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 01:31 AM
Mention a Mexican in a bad way, bet the thread will die, As aint Italian, hes Mexican, where he now? Maybe pissing in his pants like a little *****, haha, both him and Splix, see how he allready asumed I hated all Mexicans? Probaly cause he lives around New York, where Puerto Ricans allways bully them and make fun of'em.

RwK
05-24-2005, 01:33 AM
both him and Splix

I think you already crushed Slipx's fragile self esteem with the thread you made about him. LOL!

MetalVomit
05-24-2005, 01:33 AM
Mention a Mexican in a bad way, bet the thread will die, As aint Italian, hes Mexican, where he now? Maybe pissing in his pants like a little *****, haha, both him and Splix, see how he allready asumed I hated all Mexicans? Probaly cause he lives around New York, where Puerto Ricans allways bully them and make fun of'em.


Do you honestly think that Barrera and Morales are overrated? If so, how? I'm mexican, but I dont become a fan of a boxer because of his nationality. I would like to know why you think MAB and EM are overrated.

as214
05-24-2005, 01:43 AM
Mention a Mexican in a bad way, bet the thread will die, As aint Italian, hes Mexican, where he now? Maybe pissing in his pants like a little *****, haha, both him and Splix, see how he allready asumed I hated all Mexicans? Probaly cause he lives around New York, where Puerto Ricans allways bully them and make fun of'em.



Kid I got news for you I'm Italian not Mexican. I'd be just as proud to be Mexican though because they are a proud, humble people.. They arent big mouths like your people who talk a big game just to hide their insecurities!! So you really think Tito is one of the greatest Latino fighters ever and MAB and Morales are overrated? If you weren't so sad you'd be funny!!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 01:56 AM
naseem by KO .. LOL..damn naseem is tiny

http://denji102.geo.kyushu-u.ac.jp/denji/student/graduate/yonemoto/trinidad.jpg
Hey As***, see how Trinidads fist is almost as big as The Princes head, imange what he could do to Chavez or Barrera in a street fight :eek: , wait, you must allready know, haha.

MetalVomit
05-24-2005, 02:03 AM
Hey As***, see how Trinidads fist is almost as big as The Princes head, imange what he could do to Chavez or Barrera in a street fight :eek: , wait, you must allready know, haha.

How many weight classes are Chavez and Barrera under Trinidad? Why wont you explain why MAB and EM are overrated?

as214
05-24-2005, 02:04 AM
Hey As***, see how Trinidads fist is almost as big as The Princes head, imange what he could do to Chavez or Barrera in a street fight :eek: , wait, you must allready know, haha.


Hey ****head just keep your mouth shut ,you keep disgracing yourself and your organization.. Now you're talking about Tito in a streetfight against Mexican fighters who are smaller than him.. You have some serious issues kid, beyond the scope of which I could help you on a message board.. Please seek help!

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 02:05 AM
How many weight classes are Chavez and Barrera under Trinidad? Why wont you explain why MAB and EM are overrated?
Extactly, and their overrated when people say they are better than Trinidad.

czars_salad
05-24-2005, 02:13 AM
tito vs naseem

no brainer

MetalVomit
05-24-2005, 02:14 AM
Extactly, and their overrated when people say they are better than Trinidad.


How can you answer questions with "exactly"? I'm not saying who's better than who, I want to know why you think MAB and EM are overrated.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 02:14 AM
Extactly, and their overrated when people say they are better than Trinidad.


Chavez is and will always be better than Trinidad p4p. The other guys would box his ears off, again, p4p if they were in the same weight class. Trinidad can't deal with great boxers...notice the keyword GREAT. All of those guys would apply p4p.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 02:16 AM
How can you answer questions with "exactly"? I'm not saying who's better than who, I want to know why you think MAB and EM are overrated.


I don't think he can explain why using any concrete evidence.

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 02:26 AM
Chavez is and will always be better than Trinidad p4p. The other guys would box his ears off, again, p4p if they were in the same weight class. Trinidad can't deal with great boxers...notice the keyword GREAT. All of those guys would apply p4p.
Straweight - Flyweight = Pre-School
Super Flyweight - Super Bantamweight = Elementry School
Featherweight - Super Lightweight = Middle School
Welterweight- Super Middleweight = High School
Light Heaveyweight - Heaveyweight = College/full grown man

P4P Chavez doesnt have enuff pounds.

MetalVomit
05-24-2005, 02:31 AM
Straweight - Flyweight = Pre-School
Super Flyweight - Super Bantamweight = Elementry School
Featherweight - Super Lightweight = Middle School
Welterweight- Super Middleweight = High School
Light Heaveyweight - Heaveyweight = College/full grown man

P4P Chavez doesnt have enuff pounds.


So, considering that any heavyweight weighs more than Tito, they are better than Trinidad? Is that the logic you are using? That's extremely odd, as is the fact that you call two boxing warriors (MAB and EM) overrated, but dont explain yourself. Am I missing something?

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 02:32 AM
So, considering that any heavyweight weighs more than Tito, they are better than Trinidad? Is that the logic you are using? That's extremely odd, as is the fact that you call two boxing warriors (MAB and EM) overrated, but dont explain yourself. Am I missing something?
A great fighter in HighSchool will allways be better than a great fighter in Middle School.

MetalVomit
05-24-2005, 02:36 AM
A great fighter in HighSchool will allways be better than a great fighter in Middle School.

P4P doesnt have anything to do with evolution as a human being, P4P is used to compare skill, not size.

Ricomania77
05-24-2005, 02:37 AM
Straweight - Flyweight = Pre-School
Super Flyweight - Super Bantamweight = Elementry School
Featherweight - Super Lightweight = Middle School
Welterweight- Super Middleweight = High School
Light Heaveyweight - Heaveyweight = College/full grown man

P4P Chavez doesnt have enuff pounds.
That's quite possibly the dumbest comparison I've ever seen. More mass does not make you a better P4P.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 02:37 AM
IWB you aren't making any sense man. Lay off the herb for a day.

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 02:43 AM
P4P doesnt have anything to do with evolution as a human being, P4P is used to compare skill, not size.
P4P is a joke, how can you compare personal fights as a kid to when your an adult, Little guys can be great fighters, but to call kids better than adults doesnt make sense, the Heaveyweight divsion is the most watched and talked about divsion of the sport, wether or not they suck, for the simple fact that is where all the guys who can kick everyones ass is at.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 02:50 AM
P4P is a joke, how can you compare personal fights as a kid to when your an adult, Little guys can be great fighters, but to call kids better than adults doesnt make sense, the Heaveyweight divsion is the most watched and talked about divsion of the sport, wether or not they suck, for the simple fact that is where all the guys who can kick everyones ass is at.


So then Wladimir Klitschko is greater than Trinidad?

IwatchBoxing
05-24-2005, 02:56 AM
So then Wladimir Klitschko is greater than Trinidad?
Not legacy wise, their both grown thats for sure, High School and College arent far off, its Middle School and Elementry that shouldnt be taken that serously, Wladimir can kick Trinidads ass, but hes not great in his Heaveyweight divsion like Trinidad was great in his.

oldgringo
05-24-2005, 03:07 AM
Not legacy wise, their both grown thats for sure, High School and College arent far off, its Middle School and Elementry that shouldnt be taken that serously, Wladimir can kick Trinidads ass, but hes not great in his Heaveyweight divsion like Trinidad was great in his.


So what...he could kick trinidads ass so he's greater. I mean, thats the logic you're using.

Trinidad hasn't had a greater career than Barerra or Morales, yet you say he could kick their asses so he's greater right?

Well if that's true then it's true that Wlad is greater than Trinidad too.

Zab Super Judah
05-24-2005, 03:20 AM
this argument is still going on?

kadyo
05-24-2005, 03:56 AM
Just notice this thread and I haven't read anything yet but I say with finality that this thread is a joke! :rolleyes:

stix
05-24-2005, 09:11 AM
:biggthump This thread is a bad joke. Too bad it ain't funny! :banghead:

Exciterx24
05-24-2005, 12:09 PM
The thing is that the thread went another way after a few replies.

tito4life216
05-24-2005, 02:22 PM
Another very intelligent response from the litttle PR *****boy who cries to get people banned because he can give but not take. You can hug Erik Estrada and Titos nuts all day for all I care!! When's the last time you ever saw an Italian quit in a fight and in life ***** boy? Hang onto Boricua and your online chat friends because you have nothing else going for you in life!!
Hey didn't Rocky quit in one of the movies??? Oh I think Mario quit against Bowser once! Hmmm let me see what else...Luigi is a big time quitter, just ask Mario!!!

Alpha Male
05-24-2005, 02:29 PM
Overrated by idiots...not by reasonable boxing fans. Hamed was one of the best feathers of the last 15 years and Trinidad was one of the best 147 pounders of the last 15 years. Both are HOF fighters.

Yeah until Hamed and Tito were exposed by Barrera and Hopkins respectively.

tito4life216
05-24-2005, 02:33 PM
although i feel that DLH should be in the hall of fame..WHat prime hall of famer has DLH BEAT?????????? he lost to trinidad and he lost to hopkins..tell me what prime hall of famer did he beat ? jackass.. if DLH is a hall of famer why isnt tito? who did winky beat to be a hall of famer? what prime hall of famer did winky beat? idiot you are contradicting yourself hater
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