View Full Version : George Foreman vs Lennox Lewis


rocco1252
05-23-2005, 05:35 PM
In this battle of the giants who do you think would win? As a former boxer I would have to say this is a very tough match to call because they are both so large I predict quite a bit of clinching especially when both fighters make it to the later rounds because I dont believe there would be a KO in this one. Foreman has the Power and just raw Aggressiveness but then we have the more laid back Lennox Lewis with his speed and boxing skill. Lewis never having faced a man really his size and strength would have to watch for the big lunging shots by Foreman, he would have to utilize his jab and try and get the fight to last till the later rounds where Foreman would tire out. Although in this clash of the giants the intensity would not be as it is when the smaller boxers are going up against these giants. Foreman would hurt Lewis with his power but only in the first half of the fight when he begins to slow down later Lewis would then try a counter attack but it is just not enough as Lewis as well is tired from the attack of Foreman. This fight would be extremely close and I believe it could go either way depending on the first few rounds of the fight. If Foreman doesnt tire out too quickly he has the fight, if Lewis can hold his energy without getting to beat up in the first few rounds he has the fight due to later rounds of more activity. No knockdowns and not a true bloody battle.

Foreman
05-23-2005, 08:57 PM
Lewis shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Foreman. If Rahman and McCall can put Lewis to sleep, how long is it going to take Lewis to wake up after Foreman tears his frigging head off. Lewis has absolutely NOTHING to intimidate, frustrate or keep Foreman off of him. Foreman KO3.

dansweeney
05-23-2005, 09:47 PM
foreman kayo in 3, he would blow poor lennox away! lewis may have only been knocked out 2 times but he was hurt badly and wobbled in several other fights.Big George would have hurt him and finished him brutally

M26
05-24-2005, 04:17 PM
Lewis has no chance in this one! Foreman would totally overwhelm Lewis from the get go and take him out early. If you watch Lewis vs Tyson, itīs clear to see that Lewis is not comfortable in the first round when Tyson comes charging with speed and tenacity. If that was a prime Foreman, Lewis would not survive one freakin round. It would take a single sledgehammer right from Foreman and Lewis would be fast asleep.

kapersky
05-24-2005, 05:11 PM
it would be like a ticking bomb for lewis, he would be risk to got ko in every round but with his skills and jab he may could go to distance and duck from all georges punches..i would say lewis by late ko..or george by a suprise ko...

Kimmy
05-26-2005, 03:09 PM
Alot of people will disagree with this but i think Foreman ( in his prime ) is made for Lewis. Lewis is bigger and would jab Foreman silly. Yes, George could land the big one at anytime and end it but thats why he won`t. Foreman would be dangerous and Lewis always fought better when he respected his opponent.
Lewis TKO 8

the giant one
05-27-2005, 01:44 AM
George can stand up to a hellacious punch and i think he would survive Lennox's bombs and take him out late rounds. Foreman TKO 9

Imira
05-27-2005, 07:18 AM
If Frazier's hardest punches couldn't shake Foreman then I just don't see how anyone can say that Lewis could do so. Plus, Foreman wouldn't give Lewis time to start pumping his jab because he'd be all over him from the outset and Lewis simply cannot handle that kind of pressure.

Foreman KO 2

1zz
05-27-2005, 07:48 AM
Big George has said himself that Lewis would of been a nightmare for.He thinks very highly of Lennox Lewis.

cornerman
05-27-2005, 10:18 AM
There's no doubt that Foreman has great power and that Lennox's chin is highly suspect, if Rahman and McCall can knock him down then surely Foreman would have been able to. I can't see that Lewis would be able to avoid a big shot from Foreman from a whole 12 rounds, so id pick Foreman by KO around round 6-8.

leff
05-27-2005, 10:28 AM
heigth skill and reach to lewis.

power, chin and stamina George by far.
he would knock Lewis the **** in 3 rounds.

The_One77
05-27-2005, 04:53 PM
george in his prime was not a great boxer, lewis was bigger and although he wasn't as strong as a puncher as george his right hand could knock any man out. Lewis was also the better boxer and i would say a unanimous decision for lewis, george would be outboxed all night.

Foreman
05-27-2005, 06:12 PM
George couldn't box? Well he certainly wasn't Ali, but George could dance and move pretty well for a big man. Most people haven't seen that by only watching clips of his KO's where George plants his feet and tee's off on someone. Big George had a very good defense as well. He was never beaten up as is apt to happen to strictly big punchers.

marvdave
05-27-2005, 08:37 PM
I will assume we are talking of Foreman 1973.

The knee jerk reaction is to say Foreman would blow Lewis out. I disagree. Lennox Lewis was a BIG strong guy who could box very well. Obviously if Lewis tried to bomb with George he would be destroyed. I watched Lewis for many years and he rarely..if never went in there to blow a guy out. He worked the jab and picked his shots. A motivated Lewis is a tough victory for anyone. In 1973 Foreman had no experience going rounds. He knocked out evryone early. If Lewis could get him past 5 rounds..it's on. I think this is a great fantasy matchup.

Imira
05-28-2005, 11:17 AM
I will assume we are talking of Foreman 1973.

The knee jerk reaction is to say Foreman would blow Lewis out. I disagree. Lennox Lewis was a BIG strong guy who could box very well. Obviously if Lewis tried to bomb with George he would be destroyed. I watched Lewis for many years and he rarely..if never went in there to blow a guy out. He worked the jab and picked his shots. A motivated Lewis is a tough victory for anyone. In 1973 Foreman had no experience going rounds. He knocked out evryone early. If Lewis could get him past 5 rounds..it's on. I think this is a great fantasy matchup.

You are out of your mind. There is no way that a guy who couldn't KO a washed up Holyfield, had to take a washed up Tyson 8 rounds and got KOd by two average fighters in one punch would ever hope to defeat Foreman of 1973. It's not a knee jerk reaction. It's a fact. Lewis may have had talent but the extent of his talent is overrated. This Lewis worship really needs to stop.

marvdave
05-28-2005, 11:37 AM
You are out of your mind. There is no way that a guy who couldn't KO a washed up Holyfield, had to take a washed up Tyson 8 rounds and got KOd by two average fighters in one punch would ever hope to defeat Foreman of 1973. It's not a knee jerk reaction. It's a fact. Lewis may have had talent but the extent of his talent is overrated. This Lewis worship really needs to stop.

not a worshipper, or a Foreman hater. It is my opinion. If you don't agree, that is ok. You can't judge fights based on what someone did against another fighter. ...ie, Holyfield knocked out Tyson, even though he looked shot previous to that. Styles make fights and Lewis' style would cause the lumbering Foreman fits...that is not fact, that is my opinion. Just as your opinion in not fact.

I never said Lewis was the greatest ever or anything close to that. If you don't see his obviously ability..you haven't been watching. His problems have been in the heart department and his commitment to training..not in talent.


ps- to answer your question, yes I do believe I am out of my mind ;)

marvdave
05-28-2005, 11:38 AM
not a worshipper, or a Foreman hater. It is my opinion. If you don't agree, that is ok. You can't judge fights based on what someone did against another fighter. ...ie, Holyfield knocked out Tyson, even though he looked shot previous to that. Styles make fights and Lewis' style would cause the lumbering Foreman fits...that is not fact, that is my opinion. Just as your opinion in not fact.

I never said Lewis was the greatest ever or anything close to that. If you don't see his obviously ability..you haven't been watching. His problems have been in the heart department and his commitment to training..not in talent.


ps- to answer your question, yes I do believe I am out of my mind ;)

crap, it wasn't a question..it was a statement...anyway..you are correct with your statement

devils03
06-08-2005, 09:10 PM
George Foreman would own Lennox Lewis.

scottie
06-09-2005, 12:49 AM
Foreman will be too fast for Lennox. He can't parry the relentless foreman for 12rds with his jabs. Ultimately, foreman overpowers him. Foreman by KO.

Moon
06-09-2005, 01:22 AM
As much as I like Lewis's chances, I like Foreman's better. Foreman was on the cusp of being a SuperHeavyweight, like Lewis, plus he brought much badder intentions than Lewis ever could imagine. Th mistake Lewis would make is a simple one, he'd underestimate George's power and wouldn't get a second chance, 'cause George KO's the chinny Lewis the first time he connects flush upstairs.

phallusy
06-09-2005, 01:48 AM
As much as I like Lewis's chances, I like Foreman's better. Foreman was on the cusp of being a SuperHeavyweight, like Lewis, plus he brought much badder intentions than Lewis ever could imagine. Th mistake Lewis would make is a simple one, he'd underestimate George's power and wouldn't get a second chance, 'cause George KO's the chinny Lewis the first time he connects flush upstairs.


the other deadly thing for lennox is the fact that he's not very busy in the ring, he's slow, doesn't throw many punches per round. lennox is by far the better boxer than the young foreman, but foreman has the higher workrate and badder intentions. at the beginning, lennox maybe keeps big george away with the jab, maybe not, cause lewis is a slow starter. if big george jumps on him from the opening round, he knocks lennox into next week. if lennox comes in in op shape and boxes and moves from round 1 he gets stopped late as soon as he makes a mistake. big george by KO. like the other guy said, if foreman could destroy smokin joe frazier who had 100x the heart of lewis, he'd **** lewis up

Benoit Gaudet
06-09-2005, 02:33 AM
even though i hate lennox, he's the more polished boxer...i think he would have no problem picking foreman apart

Deems36
06-09-2005, 06:04 AM
Foreman by KO

dodge
06-14-2005, 08:57 AM
Lewis by close decision.

SturmRules
06-15-2005, 01:21 AM
lewis may be bigger then george but just barley u guys are talking liek lewis dwarfs foremna, foreman was a fast jab himself he would beat lewis plain and simple

sanjayint
06-15-2005, 03:37 AM
the other deadly thing for lennox is the fact that he's not very busy in the ring, he's slow, doesn't throw many punches per round. lennox is by far the better boxer than the young foreman, but foreman has the higher workrate and badder intentions. at the beginning, lennox maybe keeps big george away with the jab, maybe not, cause lewis is a slow starter. if big george jumps on him from the opening round, he knocks lennox into next week. if lennox comes in in op shape and boxes and moves from round 1 he gets stopped late as soon as he makes a mistake. big george by KO. like the other guy said, if foreman could destroy smokin joe frazier who had 100x the heart of lewis, he'd **** lewis up

i disagree with u , as lennox wud out jab and out box the guy.. wud ray mercer beat foreman?

M26
06-15-2005, 09:00 AM
The only heavyweight champions that could possibly beat Foreman (other than Ali of course) would be Joe Louis and Larry Holmes, though I wouldn't put too much money on Holmes. The other guys are either too small or have a bad style to fight Foreman.

"Badboys" such as Dempsey, Marciano, Frazier and Tyson would come charging and get their heads ripped off (Dempsey and Marciano were also too small to mix it with him).

Gene Tunney and Jack Johnson could give him trouble, but I can't see them keeping him off them for the whole fight.

Sonny Liston was a great boxer/puncher, but I don't think he would have the heart to fight it out with a prime Foreman.

Louis had the style to take Foreman. He was lightening fast, had a great defense, and power enough to hurt George. I can see him countering and blocking the early attack from Foreman, and then giving him a terrible beating later on.

Holmes also had the style to take out Foreman, plus he had a massive chin.

But Lewis doesn't deserve to be mentioned with the likes of Foreman. He would take this big guy out with ease. There really is no quesion about it. He was too slow and had no chin. This spells disaster when getting in the ring with Foreman.

Imira
06-27-2005, 01:01 AM
crap, it wasn't a question..it was a statement...anyway..you are correct with your statement

:p Right. Well, you need to judge the fighters on their performance against other fighters, otherwise you can't get a good enough picture of their overall ability. Honestly, I can't see Lewis out jabbing a contiuously punching Foreman. I've seen what happens when a fighter gets too close to Lewis, his game plan falls apart. Plus, if Lewis could get KOd in one punch by the likes of McCall and Rahman, then I don't doubt that George could do it.

P. S. Sorry if I came across as a bitch in my other post. :D

czars_salad
06-27-2005, 01:09 AM
lewis' chin has always been a doubt. but definitely there can never be any doubt on foreman's punching power.

foreman by mid-round KO

marvdave
06-27-2005, 01:05 PM
:p Right. Well, you need to judge the fighters on their performance against other fighters, otherwise you can't get a good enough picture of their overall ability. Honestly, I can't see Lewis out jabbing a contiuously punching Foreman. I've seen what happens when a fighter gets too close to Lewis, his game plan falls apart. Plus, if Lewis could get KOd in one punch by the likes of McCall and Rahman, then I don't doubt that George could do it.

P. S. Sorry if I came across as a bitch in my other post. :D


styles make fights

you are not a bitch :D

Imira
06-28-2005, 09:50 PM
Right, styles do make fights. And this fight Lewis' style, coupled with his overall physical abilities make this a bad fight for Lewis. He's too big to out box George and move effectively. He's very hittable. He doesn't hold up too well when hit. His jab doesn't have enough power to hold George off. His right hand, while devastating, doesn't have the power to put George out. On the inside, his handspeed becomes a non-factor. And I'm in agreement with beeatch!. Lewis has never held up well against fighters with George's workrate and pressure. All of these flaws are dangerous but against a monster like George, they'll put Lewis in a coffin.

you are not a bitch

Thank you ;) I wish you'd tell my ex boyfriend that. :D

Syd Barrett
06-30-2005, 11:22 AM
I really thing Lewis is overrated. When he was "focused" he did good things. But we shouldn't have to put that stipulation in. Lewis got ktfo by mediocre fighters not once but twice! And look at the way he was getting hit by Klitchko. I guess that was a 3rd fight Lewis just wasn/t "focused" for? Foreman would simply be to strong and aggressive for Lewis.


Ko in 5

BadMagick
06-30-2005, 12:14 PM
not a worshipper, or a Foreman hater. It is my opinion. If you don't agree, that is ok. You can't judge fights based on what someone did against another fighter. ...ie, Holyfield knocked out Tyson, even though he looked shot previous to that. Styles make fights and Lewis' style would cause the lumbering Foreman fits...that is not fact, that is my opinion. Just as your opinion in not fact.

I never said Lewis was the greatest ever or anything close to that. If you don't see his obviously ability..you haven't been watching. His problems have been in the heart department and his commitment to training..not in talent.


ps- to answer your question, yes I do believe I am out of my mind ;)

Let me tell ya, it's really ****ing annoying seeing people constantly say that styles make fights. Yeah, we ****ing know that.

I'd take Big George within six, however, if Lewis can avoid his shots for those six, then he might scrape a UD out. His chin was too weak to handle George's power.

I really thing Lewis is overrated. When he was "focused" he did good things. But we shouldn't have to put that stipulation in. Lewis got ktfo by mediocre fighters not once but twice! And look at the way he was getting hit by Klitchko. I guess that was a 3rd fight Lewis just wasn/t "focused" for? Foreman would simply be to strong and aggressive for Lewis.


Ko in 5

First, no, he wasn't focused for the fight. Look at how out of shape he was, man. Secondly, why even bring that up? He won the fight! It doesn't matter what the score cards were, he beat the hell out of Klitskcho's face. It was a TKO, not an accidental headbutt. Scorecards mean shit in that case. If they mattered when a fight's stopped, Marciano shouldn't be undefeated.

xKillingJokex
06-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Foreman obliterates Lewis within 6..Foreman was a beast..a machine..Lewis wasnt all that bigger than George..so dont think that would be a factor..plus..Foreman in his prime.was intimidating..it took a guy like Ali to finally..stand up to him..Lewis would be scared shitless

Syd Barrett
06-30-2005, 01:33 PM
why even bring that up? He won the fight! It doesn't matter what the score cards were, he beat the hell out of Klitskcho's face. It was a TKO, not an accidental headbutt. Scorecards mean shit in that case. If they mattered when a fight's stopped, Marciano shouldn't be undefeated.

Who said Lewis didn't win?

The point is he took a beating. He was dead on his feet and probably wouldn't have lasted another round if the fight had continued. If it had been Foreman hitting him like that instead of klitchko it would have been lights out and Foreman ain't a bleeder either.

As for the not being focused, isn't that a bit pathetic, not to mention an insult to the fans paying good money to see him at his best. I mean if you aren't focused when you are fighting for, or defending a title that really says something about your character or lack thereof.

marvdave
07-06-2005, 09:30 PM
[QUOTE=BadMagick]Let me tell ya, it's really ****ing annoying seeing people constantly say that styles make fights. Yeah, we ****ing know that.

I'd take Big George within six, however, if Lewis can avoid his shots for those six, then he might scrape a UD out. His chin was too weak to handle George's power...quote



why so angry? It's the truth..styles do make fights. I'm very sorry I annoyed you..please don't give me bad karma or call me any names, becuase I don't know what I would do then.

I respect your opinion on the fight outcome, but think your unwarranted bitterness is very tired..but thanks for your input.

Skydog
07-15-2005, 11:06 PM
If any of you have seen the 60 Minutes on Ali and Foreman, you wouldn't even think about saying Lewis.

Lewis is an extraordianry boxer, no doubt. But at one time, George actually wanted to kill someone. He even quoted it. He had so much fury in him after the battle with Frazier, because of people not respecting him for what he had one. Before his fight with Ali, he wanted to kill him so people would get that George Foreman is for real. Somehow, Ali managed beat the wrecking machine into submission.

After hearing Big George quote that, I would take him over Lewis anyday. A crushing right hand to Lewis' poor head in the 5th round. And don't forget that Foreman has arguably the most powerful punch in boxing history.

Dempsey 1919
01-06-2006, 03:18 PM
lewis chin is plastic, and foreman's fists are granite. you do the math.

foreman ko lewis in 2.