......even if I was a ****ty fighter I'd still have a huge fan base.

......even if I was a ****ty fighter I'd still have a huge fan base.
You're ****ed up with race man... You need to kerb that ****!

The other day you were saying - the only reason I like Ricky Hatton is because he's white!

You never replied to my post and you still don't know where my family line comes from...

Just because I'm from the UK doesn't make me White!

......even if I was a ****ty fighter I'd still have a huge fan base.
You should of picked pinoy. :D

You're ****ed up with race man... You need to kerb that ****!

The other day you were saying - the only reason I like Ricky Hatton is because he's white!

You never replied to my post and you still don't know where my family line comes from...

Just because I'm from the UK doesn't make me White!
I'm sorry, what?
That statement had absolutely nothing to do with race, at least not in my eyes...
Stop being so aggressive, and maybe we could have more threads without ****-talk. Please.

The other day you were saying - the only reason I like Ricky Hatton is because he's white!


you are takin that out of context.

i was speaking to you first of all, I said, 'VB,You only like Hatton because he's white.'

and looking at your pic you look like a louisianian.

nah should be mexican then u will always have a shot at the wbc :) damns slipx u know how to push them buttons

I'm sorry, what?
That statement had absolutely nothing to do with race, at least not in my eyes...
Stop being so aggressive, and maybe we could have more threads without ****-talk. Please.
martin is trying to pwn me for picking on him about his hairline

you are takin that out of context.

i was speaking to you first of all, I said, 'VB,You only like Hatton because he's white.'

and looking at your pic you look like a louisianian.

His pic?

Also, Brown Bomber, Pacman is more talented than Trinidad. He beat Barerra, he drew with Marquez, and lost a good fight to Morales. There's no shame in that.

His pic?


yea he used to have a pic of himself as his avatar until i started clowning him then he took it down like a lil hoe.

His pic?

Also, Brown Bomber, Pacman is more talented than Trinidad. He beat Barerra, he drew with Marquez, and lost a good fight to Morales. There's no shame in that.

How is Pacquiao more talented than Trinidad? Because of those 3 fights? How about the bunch of high profile fights in Trinidad's career? Anyone who has followed boxing for years, knows that there is no comparison between Pacquiao and Trinidad.

martin is trying to pwn me for picking on him about his hairline
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martin...

I really think this is a good thread,props to you for that, but man, I think you are truly gimped for putting that pic of hatton up as your avatar.. lol :P well hopefully you'll bet on him and make the odds better for me because I know tszyu is gonna **** him up in round one like he stole his mom's purse in church. hattons just an unmotivated fatass that only trains 3months before big fights.he's worse than james toney in this aspect. we all saw the double chin.

great fighters train 24/7,365days a year, ray leonard,pryor,hagler,hearns,george foreman,ali,holmes,chavez, these guys trained every day, hard..there wasnt any ****ing around. hagler easily being the most dedicated.


Ricky boy set's a blistering pace for 3 minutes of all 12 rounds! He never turns up out of shape... That's what matters. People's bodies are different, different training methods work for different fighters.


and it's obvious you only like him because he's a white undefeated fighter. if you know as much about the sport as you claim then you know his opposition up to this point has been absolutely gimped. yet you put him up on your avatar. no big deal i suppose, boxing is a racial sport, poles support golata, latins love tito-cotto etc. I'm not like that at all, I look past the skin tone and like the fighters for 1. their character 2.how they fight 3.their opposition.


That is a very ignorant comment... I come from the UK but do you know where my family line come from? What has Ricky Hatton being "White" got to do with anything? D'you know what religion I am? I like Ricky Hatton because 1. His character. We need more honest, intelligent, good guy's like Ricky Hatton in the Sport. (Unlike Juiced up Toney's!). 2. how they fight - I would say Ricky Hatton is possibly the most exciting fighter in the World at the moment... Name me another fighter that can sell 25,000 seats every fight! His body punching all out aggresive style is VERY exciting! 3. Have a look at the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO rankings and see where Ricky is. He's there because he fought Michael Stewert (not too shaby for Shamba), Ray Oliviera (Beat Vivian Harris) Tackie shortly after both Tszyu and Mithcell beat him... And Ricky has got himself into a mandatory position!



my pick is Corely Cotto. this fight meant a ton to me because it was cotto's "coming out" fight, and I knew corely was gonna give it everything so I was sooooo waiting for this fight. everyone was in the dark about what corely would bring to cotto, but I knew after watching him vs Mayweather(best in the world) he'd **** over cotto. that was a damn good fight up until that piece'o'**** latin ref stopped the fight

ps- the elephant ****ing the van was one of the best avvies ive seen in awhile,shoulda left that up
By the way... It wasn't an elephant it was a Rhino.

Discovery and National Geographic channels... Give them a go!



I don't understand this Migule Cotto post of yours?.. You're copying my posts?

- I genuinly believe that Cotto is the Best 140lb fighter today, And this is coming from a BIG Ricky Hatton fan!

I'd favour Cotto over any fighter at 140lbs, yep that includes both Mayweather and Tszyu!

And the Corley fight was the BEST thing that could have happened to him... He know's he's not invinsable now, and he dealt with adversity in excellent style. He didn't panic... He just took his time to clear his head.


- As I stated above... I think Miguel Cotto is the best 140lb fighter in the World today. (And this is coming from a Ricky Hatton).

I never have, and would NEVER say that Kostya Tszyu is just a paper champ!

He's in my top 10 P4P list!!! But "YES" ... I have rated Cotto above him, and by doing that, I think that Cotto would beat him.

AND...


I'm gonna stand out on a limb - But I reckon Cotto is the BEST at 140lbs.

I don't think he was exposed by Chop Chop, in fact... I think that fight has made him stronger, I believe he'll now realise that he's not invinsible, and will be a little more carefull coming in throwing the big shots.

I was also VERY impressed with the way that he dealt with adversity... (Yeah I know, Corley did a **** job of trying to finish him when he had him hurt).

I think Cotto would be too BIG and too STRONG for Mayweather, and Cotto would get out-boxed etc at the begining, but Cotto would catch up with Mayweather and stop him from rounds 7-11.

That's my opinion, but the way I see it, If Corley was able to hurt Mayweather then Cotto will DEFINATLY be able to hurt Mayweather!

Personally I think that Mayweather shouldn't be fighting at 140lb, he's too small!... He'd be the king if he moved back down to Lightweight.

What's your point?

martin is trying to pwn me for picking on him about his hairline
And what are you talking about?... A pic of me?... That old pic from ages ago was Bob Marley! ... ???

How is Pacquiao more talented than Trinidad? Because of those 3 fights? How about the bunch of high profile fights in Trinidad's career? Anyone who has followed boxing for years, knows that there is no comparison between Pacquiao and Trinidad.

They know that all Trinidad has is a left hook. He has no ring movement, he has no head movement, he has no right hand.

Pacman has better overall movement, head, feet, and upper body, he's fast, and he CAN use both hands. He favors his straight left, but he CAN throw other punches that hurt.

The only reason Trinidad beat those people he beat is because they stood toe-to-toe. I'll give him credit for doing what he did well, but he was FAR from being a "talented" boxer. A left hook doesn't make you good.

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That is a very ignorant comment... I come from the UK but do you know where my family line come from? What has Ricky Hatton being "White" got to do with anything? D'you know what religion I am? I like Ricky Hatton because 1. His character. We need more honest, intelligent, good guy's like Ricky Hatton in the Sport. (Unlike Juiced up Toney's!). 2. how they fight - I would say Ricky Hatton is possibly the most exciting fighter in the World at the moment... Name me another fighter that can sell 25,000 seats every fight! His body punching all out aggresive style is VERY exciting! 3. Have a look at the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO rankings and see where Ricky is. He's there because he fought Michael Stewert (not too shaby for Shamba), Ray Oliviera (Beat Vivian Harris) Tackie shortly after both Tszyu and Mithcell beat him... And Ricky has got himself into a mandatory position!

in the avatar pic, it looked like you worked a hard labor-oriented outside job and stopped in for lunch somewhere. that leads me to believe, you looked kind of like you were raised in the country, so i dont mean to label u but u looked kind of like a redneck,also because you say 'reckon'.rednecks always root for the white fighter,especially if it's a good white fighter, like hatton, that has some skills. the reason hatton sells tickets is because he's 1.White2.Undefeated3.Aggressive. it's a lesson learned by history, white fighters sell tickets, and they don't have to be great.gerry cooney.joe mesi.gatti.you get the point?

so you see it isn't ignorant at all.




By the way... It wasn't an elephant it was a Rhino.

Discovery and National Geographic channels... Give them a go!

you work at a zoo or something? you knew what I was talking about..no need to correct me on the species,if you feel you need to do that, fine....



I don't understand this Migule Cotto post of yours?.. You're copying my posts?

why youd say that is beyond me,ive always said miguel was exposed by corely,and that he's an overhyped piece of ****.




- I genuinly believe that Cotto is the Best 140lb fighter today, And this is coming from a BIG Ricky Hatton fan!

is that supposed to be suprised? a guy who likes one overhyped hometown hero likes another overhyped hometown hero? laugh.



I'd favour Cotto over any fighter at 140lbs, yep that includes both Mayweather and Tszyu!


here is where you own yourself,tszyu would hand cotto his ass in one round, so would mayweather, or gatti. latter two in 3-4 rd,mayweather on points probably.

And the Corley fight was the BEST thing that could have happened to him... He know's he's not invinsable now, and he dealt with adversity in excellent style. He didn't panic... He just took his time to clear his head.

I'm gonna stand out on a limb - But I reckon Cotto is the BEST at 140lbs.

I don't think he was exposed by Chop Chop, in fact... I think that fight has made him stronger, I believe he'll now realise that he's not invinsible, and will be a little more carefull coming in throwing the big shots.

I was also VERY impressed with the way that he dealt with adversity... (Yeah I know, Corley did a **** job of trying to finish him when he had him hurt).

I think Cotto would be too BIG and too STRONG for Mayweather, and Cotto would get out-boxed etc at the begining, but Cotto would catch up with Mayweather and stop him from rounds 7-11.

That's my opinion, but the way I see it, If Corley was able to hurt Mayweather then Cotto will DEFINATLY be able to hurt Mayweather!

Personally I think that Mayweather shouldn't be fighting at 140lb, he's too small!... He'd be the king if he moved back down to Lightweight.

What's your point?


Yeah..he was getting his ass kicked, and was dazed and ready to go against a much lesser fighter(if you listen to hype.) his technique is flawed, he reminds me of trinidad. he won a fight via hometown stoppage,he could've lost that fight had corely capitalized and/or hung in there, your clueless.


edited-ps-2:43pm since you had to correct me on it being a rhino and not an elephant..ill have to correct you on your spelling of invicible..not invincable


invinsable

And what are you talking about?... A pic of me?... That old pic from ages ago was Bob Marley! ... ???

oh and who was in the pic with the stripper with the black eye?..looked like you, and if you call two weeks ages, w/e.

They know that all Trinidad has is a left hook. He has no ring movement, he has no head movement, he has no right hand.

Pacman has better overall movement, head, feet, and upper body, he's fast, and he CAN use both hands. He favors his straight left, but he CAN throw other punches that hurt.

The only reason Trinidad beat those people he beat is because they stood toe-to-toe. I'll give him credit for doing what he did well, but he was FAR from being a "talented" boxer. A left hook doesn't make you good.

No right hand? Check the fights against Joppy and Mayorga and tell me if his right is not good. Besides, Trinidad now is not the same fighter he was some 5 or even 10 years ago. He had very good technique early on in his career. Perhaps you are not familiar with Trinidad's early career.

I say that Pacquiao is talented but he is very one dimensional. Both fights with Márquez and Morales show that.

No right hand? Check the fights against Joppy and Mayorga and tell me if his right is not good. Besides, Trinidad now is not the same fighter he was some 5 or even 10 years ago. He had very good technique early on in his career. Perhaps you are not familiar with Trinidad's early career.

I say that Pacquiao is talented but he is very one dimensional. Both fights with Márquez and Morales show that.

And Trinidad wasn't one dimensional? He had no foot movement, or upper body movement. Every class fighter he went against, he was DOMINATED. Pac fought CLOSELY with Morales and Marquez, two of the most talented boxers in ANY weight class right now, and over the last ten years.

Slipx is Puerto Rican because he loved to endanceds the salsa!!
He is so funny, he loves the cha cha and does like sissy girl!

Slipx... I really think you're getting me confused with someone else... All that Redneck picture I sent you, Blah, Blah... stuff?

in the pic you sent me, it looked like you worked a hard labor-oriented outside job and stopped in for lunch somewhere. that leads me to believe, you looked kind of like you were raised in the country, so i dont mean to label u but u looked kind of like a redneck.rednecks always root for the white fighter,especially if it's a good white fighter, like hatton, that has some skills. the reason hatton sells tickets is because he's 1.White2.Undefeated3.Aggressive. it's a lesson learned by history, white fighters sell tickets, and they don't have to be great.gerry cooney.joe mesi.gatti.you get the point?

so you see it isn't ignorant at all.
Me liking Ricky Hatton has NOTHING to do with him being White... You need put that **** on someone else... My Favourite fighter of all time is Lennox Lewis. I'm a massive fan of his for many reasons.

He's everything A heavyweight champion should be, both in and out of the ring.

He was respectable, skillfull, had a HUGE!!! punch, and made it his mission to avenge defeats!

He didn't duck anyone, and took on ALL comers!

And from later watching some of his earlier fights I missed... I've grown to appreciate, he never really got out-boxed... Ever... He was always in control and that's what decides him as a true heavyweight great!

I can't be bothered to reply to the rest of your crap...

And Trinidad wasn't one dimensional? He had no foot movement, or upper body movement. Every class fighter he went against, he was DOMINATED. Pac fought CLOSELY with Morales and Marquez, two of the most talented boxers in ANY weight class right now, and over the last ten years.

Trinidad in the early going beat Camacho and Carr, both guys with good boxing skill. He defeated David Reid who was very skilled too. Trinidad also turned Joppy(who had very good skills) into a shot fighter and there are other fights that everyone knows about(I could keep mentioning if needed). I know you don't like Trinidad and frankly, I am not trying to persuade you to like him. I just don't think that Pacquiao is better than him because of three fights. Three fights that gave Pacquiao a 1-1-1 record in high profile bouts.

Agree with you. Lennox Lewis was a phenomenal champion.

Slipx... I really think you're getting me confused with someone else... All that Redneck picture I sent you, Blah, Blah... stuff?


Funny, I edited that about two minutes after I posted the message, and you had the Reply to message open for like ten -15 minutes just to write that small message?damn, I don't mean to pick on you but,you aren't too bright are you.

So you aren't vB Martin?

still, you deserved everything I said by saying cotto could beat tszyu.

Funny, I edited that about two minutes after I posted the message, and you had the Reply to message open for like ten -15 minutes just to write that small message?damn, I don't mean to pick on you but,you aren't too bright are you.

So you aren't vB Martin?

still, you deserved everything I said by saying cotto could beat tszyu.
No I'm not VB Martin... "And it took me 15 minutes to reply?" I've been chatting to friends on MSN messenger... Arranging my evening... You know, not all of us live to post on boxingscene!

I dont think theres a question that Pacman has more boxing skills then Tito. Tito had a better career because people stayed in one place against him.

Tito didnt have any defense, any foot skills,any countering ability, no boxing skils whats so ever. Only if you include the dirty tactics like throwing elbows low blows and stepping on people's toes.

All Tito had was great stamina and great power.

Trinidad in the early going beat Camacho and Carr, both guys with good boxing skill. He defeated David Reid who was very skilled too. Trinidad also turned Joppy(who had very good skills) into a shot fighter and there are other fights that everyone knows about(I could keep mentioning if needed). I know you don't like Trinidad and frankly, I am not trying to persuade you to like him. I just don't think that Pacquiao is better than him because of three fights. Three fights that gave Pacquiao a 1-1-1 record in high profile bouts.

Joppy lost because he thought he could take Trinidad's power, he couldn't.

Camacho was overrated. Who'd he beat? A shot Sugar Ray, and Duran? Then he got dominated by De La Hoya.

Never heard of David Reid.

Again, Trinidad had no head movement, and no feet. He wasn't a good boxer, he was just a hard hitter.

I dont think theres a question that Pacman has more boxing skills then Tito. Tito had a better career because people stayed in one place against him.

Tito didnt have any defense, any foot skills,any countering ability, no boxing skils whats so ever. Only if you include the dirty tactics like throwing elbows low blows and stepping on people's toes.

All Tito had was great stamina and great power.
I gotta ask you man?.... How come you've got such a bad karma thing going on? There isn't many people about that have a "RED" strip :dunno:

Never heard of David Reid.

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are you kidding me?

His pic?

Also, Brown Bomber, Pacman is more talented than Trinidad. He beat Barerra, he drew with Marquez, and lost a good fight to Morales. There's no shame in that.
It was just a joke. I think people follow there fighters cause they r good enough to be in the ring with the best fighters.

I gotta ask you man?.... How come you've got such a bad karma thing going on? There isn't many people about that have a "RED" strip :dunno:

i dont know its been like that for ages now

Joppy lost because he thought he could take Trinidad's power, he couldn't.

Camacho was overrated. Who'd he beat? A shot Sugar Ray, and Duran? Then he got dominated by De La Hoya.

Never heard of David Reid.

Again, Trinidad had no head movement, and no feet. He wasn't a good boxer, he was just a hard hitter.

just goes to show you that your opinion of pac being a better fighter than tito is as empty as your boxing knowledge ...

are you kidding me?

I wasn't aware I was talking to you...

Anyhow, no, I'm not kidding anyone. Never heard of him.

Joppy lost because he thought he could take Trinidad's power, he couldn't.

Camacho was overrated. Who'd he beat? A shot Sugar Ray, and Duran? Then he got dominated by De La Hoya.

Never heard of David Reid.

Again, Trinidad had no head movement, and no feet. He wasn't a good boxer, he was just a hard hitter.

Hector Camacho holds victories against Edwin Rosario, Ray Mancini, Greg Haugen, José Luis Ramírez, and Rafael Limón. His boxing skill was superb and seems like you never saw a prime Camacho fight. Otherwise, you would give him credit. His record is 78-5-2 and 3 of those losses were against Trinidad, Chávez, and DLH. No shame there.

I wasn't aware I was talking to you...
.

I dont give a flying ****. P.M. him if you want to talk directly to him then.

i dont know its been like that for ages now
Click on "Control Panel" at the top right and it'll show you who's doing it... LOL!... Perhaps you're being picked on? :dunno:

Camacho was an OK fighter, he was more known for his crazy antics and his clowining around.

Hector Camacho holds victories against Edwin Rosario, Ray Mancini, Greg Haugen, José Luis Ramírez, and Rafael Limón. His boxing skill was superb and seems like you never saw a prime Camacho fight. Otherwise, you would give him credit. His record is 78-5-2 and 3 of those losses were against Trinidad, Chávez, and DLH. No shame there.

Wow, mentioning Mancini is like me saying Danny Williams beat Mike Tyson. Mancini was retired for four years when he came out to fight him. I actually saw quite a few of his fights, I was a lot younger and not too into boxing, but I've seen plenty of his fights.

The biggest names he fought, Mancini, Duran, and Leonard, were shot. Then he lost to the other three.

He was good, I'm not saying he wasn't; I just don't think he was as good as everyone says he was.

Runw/knives, I only said that because you asked if I was kidding you. I hate when someone comes into the middle of a discussion between two people and asks if they are kidding the person who was not involved. I hate it online, and moreso in real life. Anyhow, I wasn't kidding.

lol splix why do u have a pic of Timberlake and The backstreet boy dude on ur signature, plaese say ur a female.

lol splix why do u have a pic of Timberlake and The backstreet boy dude on ur signature, plaese say ur a female.

He lost a signature bet.

I wasn't kidding.

I apologize then. FYI. David reid was a very popular prospect..who was thought to be one of the better fighters in boxing at the time Trinidad beat him. He was undefeated...and Trinidad outboxed him, showing that he was basically the real deal as far as fighting goes.

That was IMO one of his most impressive victories.

......even if I was a ****ty fighter I'd still have a huge fan base.


did you lose a bet or soemthing

Being Puerto Rican doesn't guarantee a huge fan base...Ask Erik Morel, Daniel Santos, or Ruiz..

Being Puerto Rican doesn't guarantee a huge fan base...Ask Erik Morel, Daniel Santos, or Ruiz..

Exactly, I'm not a fan of any of those guys.

i bet on golata too, unfortunately

They know that all Trinidad has is a left hook. He has no ring movement, he has no head movement, he has no right hand.

Pacman has better overall movement, head, feet, and upper body, he's fast, and he CAN use both hands. He favors his straight left, but he CAN throw other punches that hurt.

The only reason Trinidad beat those people he beat is because they stood toe-to-toe. I'll give him credit for doing what he did well, but he was FAR from being a "talented" boxer. A left hook doesn't make you good.
are you smoking crack?
tito beat joppy, vargas,reid, delahoya, whitaker, camacho, and yory boy campas.
pacquiao beat barrera.

I wasn't aware I was talking to you...

Anyhow, no, I'm not kidding anyone. Never heard of him.

look at Protection's postcount,and look at BadMagicks. both joined at the same date, BadMagick has like 700ish, Protection(formerly known as RunW/Knives)has 3520+ posts...i think those numbers are pretty tough to dispute, the only possible answer can be that he's a hermit.

look at Protection's postcount,and look at BadMagicks. both joined at the same date, BadMagick has like 700ish, Protection(formerly known as RunW/Knives)has 3520+ posts...i think those numbers are pretty tough to dispute, the only possible answer can be that he's a hermit.

I think you have too big a hard on for me, ***.

His pic?

Also, Brown Bomber, Pacman is more talented than Trinidad.

I highly agree my concurrences!

I can honestly say that I have never..not once wished that I was Puerto Rican!!

I wish I was Marc Anthony so I could bang Dayanara and JLo simultaneously. Luckiest Puerto Rican alive!

I wish I was Marc Anthony so I could bang Dayanara and JLo simultaneously. Luckiest Puerto Rican alive!

Ambitious but awesome idea!

You're ****ed up with race man... You need to kerb that ****!

call me racist, that's fine.im not racist. the thing is, Boxing is, and always will be an ethnic oriented sport.golata vs bowe 1.chavez's people would always be behind him,cooney's people were behind him(not to put cooneys name in there with chavez or anything,they were only equal in terms of fan support at one time),hatton,cotto,tito,etc.

are you smoking crack?
tito beat joppy, vargas,reid, delahoya, whitaker, camacho, and yory boy campas.
pacquiao beat barrera.

Better than the original post:

De la Hoya won 8 out of 12 rounds, and got robbed. Trinidad recieved a gift decision, there was probably more money to see him fight other guys than DLH.

What did all his wins have in common? (Minus maybe Reid and Yory, because I can't say I've seen them) They all tried to take Trinidad's power, and take Trinidad out. They stood toe-to-toe with him. That proves nothing of his greatness as a boxer, only as a puncher.

And what are you talking about?... A pic of me?... That old pic from ages ago was Bob Marley! ... ???
he confused Bob Marley????
wow enough of this ****

Better than the original post:

De la Hoya won 8 out of 12 rounds, and got robbed. Trinidad recieved a gift decision, there was probably more money to see him fight other guys than DLH.

What did all his wins have in common? (Minus maybe Reid and Yory, because I can't say I've seen them) They all tried to take Trinidad's power, and take Trinidad out. They stood toe-to-toe with him. That proves nothing of his greatness as a boxer, only as a puncher.

DLH did not win 8 out of 12 rounds..I had that fight a draw I say he won 7 rounds but the 12th could of been a 2 point round becuase all he did was run, I thought it was a draw, Trinidad was never a great boxer he was great puncher/fighter. Im susprised you never heard of the American Dream David Ried..he was suppose to be like the next Roy Jones

DLH did not win 8 out of 12 rounds..I had that fight a draw I say he won 7 rounds but the 12th could of been a 2 point round becuase all he did was run, I thought it was a draw, Trinidad was never a great boxer he was great puncher/fighter. Im susprised you never heard of the American Dream David Ried..he was suppose to be like the next Roy Jones

I wasn't into boxing back then. Most of the fights I've seen have been recently, and 95% of them are from the 90's.

Even if he won 7 rounds, he still wins the fight. You don't deduct points for avoidance of another fighter. If you do that, then Mosely loses all his damn points to Forrest in Mosely-Forrest II. He ran all night.

There will never be another Roy Jones, either. The man was an abnormal athlete.