View Full Version : If Floyd Defeated Mosley and Pacquiao, Would He Have A Legit At Being The Greatest?


Southpaw16BF
03-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Lets say, Mayweather were to defeat Mosley and Pacquiao, would he have a legit claim at being the greatest fighter of all time?

And if not, would he be a top 5/10 ATG?

1SILVA
03-11-2010, 05:49 PM
Lets say, Mayweather were to defeat Mosley and Pacquiao, would he have a legit claim at being the greatest fighter of all time?

And if not, would he be a top 5/10 ATG?

He would still not be the greatest of all time because he wouldn't have beaten better fighters than Ali, SRR, SRL, Henry Armstrong, etc. He could lay a claim to top 20 ATG.

bojangles1987
03-11-2010, 06:11 PM
No. At this point Floyd would have to move up and dominate middleweight and win a super middleweight belt to have any chance at the top 5 or top 10.

Southpaw16BF
03-11-2010, 06:14 PM
No. At this point Floyd would have to move up and dominate middleweight and win a super middleweight belt to have any chance at the top 5 or top 10.

I think thats being a bit harsh. With wins over Mosley and Pac. Would there be much between him and Willie Pep for instance? Who virtually all put in there top 10 ATG list.

Who only won one world title at the one weight, and him and Mayweather's resume of win's would be pretty even, if Mayweather were to defeat Mosley and Pac.

bojangles1987
03-11-2010, 06:20 PM
I think thats being a bit harsh. With wins over Mosley and Pac. Would there be much between him and Willie Pep for instance? Who virtually all put in there top 10 ATG list.

Who only won one world title at the one weight, and him and Mayweather's resume of win's would be pretty even, if Mayweather were to defeat Mosley and Pac.

But if you look at the top 10 all time for most people, Mayweather doesn't match up. Tommy Hearns won belts at light heavyweight. Roberto Duran won a legit championship at middleweight. Floyd would have to clean out 147, move up and establish dominance at 154, and win a middleweight belt to crack the top 15 most likely. Henry Armstrong dominated multiple divisions at the same time. Sugar Ray Robinson cleaned out multiple divisions and beat middleweights as a welterweight. Fighters today can't really matchup to that.

Jim Jeffries
03-11-2010, 07:06 PM
Is this a serious question?:WTF??:

AKATheMack
03-12-2010, 04:09 PM
Mayweathers chance at being GOAT is gone. If he had fought Sharmba sooner, took Cottos 0, Hatton at 140, a younger Mosley probably at 135, a younger DLH, then Pacquiao he'd be top 5. He's still a great fighter, but potential doesn't get you ranked with the ATGs otherwise Roy may be number 1.

Nick Fury
03-12-2010, 07:56 PM
He'd be top 10 for me easy. But not the greatest....

The_Demon
03-12-2010, 07:57 PM
um......no

CarlosG815
03-12-2010, 09:45 PM
He fought too many guys outside of their prime.

You also need to have more convincing wins. I believe he lost to Castillo in their first fight and DLH.

If he beats the fighter Mosley is now, and Pacquiao while he's in the prime of his career, and does it convincingly, then he could be arguably the GOAT. If not GOAT, then definitely a top 5 ATG.

Ziggy Stardust
03-12-2010, 10:01 PM
Mayweather would have to grow horns to be the goat.....and that's about as likely to happen as Floyd growing balls.

Poet

S.G.
03-13-2010, 11:22 AM
Nah. I don't think it's possible for Mayweather to become the G.O.A.T. or even top 5 with the fights available to him (and the fights that have been available to him throughout his career).

And that's not even accounting for his now somewhat cynical approach to his boxing legacy.

Beating those two would launch him above the likes of Roy Jones Jnr, Julio Cesar Chavez, Manny Pacquiao and probably Sweet Pea as the greatest since Ray Leonard, Duran, etc. though, for me.

talip bin osman
08-18-2010, 08:48 PM
Lets say, Mayweather were to defeat Mosley and Pacquiao, would he have a legit claim at being the greatest fighter of all time?

And if not, would he be a top 5/10 ATG?

man....

ray leonard defeated hearns, hagler, duran and benitez but he is still nowhere near any legit top 10 ranking out there...

carlos slim
08-18-2010, 09:13 PM
floyd will beat pacquiao by ko and will go down in history as one of the top 10...its too hard to claim goat as boxing is not mainstream as it once was...

wmute
08-19-2010, 04:19 AM
But if you look at the top 10 all time for most people, Mayweather doesn't match up. Tommy Hearns won belts at light heavyweight. Roberto Duran won a legit championship at middleweight. Floyd would have to clean out 147, move up and establish dominance at 154, and win a middleweight belt to crack the top 15 most likely. Henry Armstrong dominated multiple divisions at the same time. Sugar Ray Robinson cleaned out multiple divisions and beat middleweights as a welterweight. Fighters today can't really matchup to that.

Tommy Hearns? Top 10?

BG_Knocc_Out
08-19-2010, 04:37 AM
Mosley is not a that great of a win, and I've been saying this before that fight. He never even cleared out a division let alone clear out the top 5.

Megamasterking
08-19-2010, 07:19 AM
No, Floyd is on vacation when it's time to fight and his opponents are carefully chosen to be either past prime or way past prime. He has also ducked some good fighters and finally his lost to Castillo " everybody knows Floyd lost that fight ". When you add all those weaknesses he will be lucky to be considered for a Top 20 ATG. IMO he needs to beat Pacquiao who started his career at 105 before he even thinks of being a Top 20 ATG. He will never be the GOAT.

wmute
08-19-2010, 09:33 AM
Nah. I don't think it's possible for Mayweather to become the G.O.A.T. or even top 5 with the fights available to him (and the fights that have been available to him throughout his career).

And that's not even accounting for his now somewhat cynical approach to his boxing legacy.

Beating those two would launch him above the likes of Roy Jones Jnr, Julio Cesar Chavez, Manny Pacquiao and probably Sweet Pea as the greatest since Ray Leonard, Duran, etc. though, for me.

Pretty much agreed that would make him the best since Duran for me as well. Being the best fighter in like a 30 year span is an incredible achievement.

If he stays until his 40s and compiles a record similar to Duran's. Then I would have to think about it some more. Still not the GOAT I guess.