Who wins WBO champ Antonio Margarito or Zab Judah WBA IBF WBC champ.

I say Margarito wins by stoppage. When is Judah going to stop ducking Margarito.

I say Margarito wins by stoppage. When is Judah going to stop ducking Margarito.

judah has not been ducking margarito..he said he would fight margarito but after he tries to get a fight with dlh

whats the diff between judah UD and judah PTS?>

I think Margarito would take advantage of the openings Judah makes available and score a knockout. Judah showed against Tszyu that he doesn't have an iron jaw and with the way Judah overcommits to his punches, it is only a matter of time before it is exposed again.

If Marguarito had a hard time landing on Cintron, he'd have a much harder time landing on Judah. Judah is fast specially for Marguarito. I'm leaning on Judah UD.

If Marguarito had a hard time landing on Cintron, he'd have a much harder time landing on Judah. Judah is fast specially for Marguarito. I'm leaning on Judah UD.

yeah judah would be too fast for margarito..and he would hit margarito hard..the only thing im scared of it that when judah has the man hurt he is still kind of reckless and tends to get hit when coming in

yeah judah would be too fast for margarito..and he would hit margarito hard..the only thing im scared of it that when judah has the man hurt he is still kind of reckless and tends to get hit when coming in

Cintron hits harder than Judah. Margarito did not have any problem with Cintron's power why should he have a problem with Judah's?

yeah judah would be too fast for margarito..and he would hit margarito hard..the only thing im scared of it that when judah has the man hurt he is still kind of reckless and tends to get hit when coming in

I'm more curious on how Judah's gonna weather the storm if Marguarito somehow gets close and smothers him with a barrage.

Cintron hits harder than Judah. Margarito did not have any problem with Cintron's power why should he have a problem with Judah's?

Cuz Cintron never landed clean.

Cuz Cintron never landed clean.

That is just a testament to Margarito's defence.

That is just a testament to Margarito's defence.

Margarito's defense is suspect. Santos really exposed that aspect of his ability. His defense is not bad....but it is pretty unstable. His chin is nothing to write home about either. He has been wobbled hundreds of times.

If you look at it this way, he really took Hercules Kyvelos out quick..and never gave him a chance to fight back. Same went with Cintron. Judah strafes, and finds openings. I think Zab would win a decision or maybe even stop Margarito.

Judah is so fast its not even funny. Plus he hits hard.

Margarito's defense is suspect. Santos really exposed that aspect of his ability. His defense is not bad....but it is pretty unstable. His chin is nothing to write home about either. He has been wobbled hundreds of times.

If you look at it this way, he really took Hercules Kyvelos out quick..and never gave him a chance to fight back. Same went with Cintron. Judah strafes, and finds openings. I think Zab would win a decision or maybe even stop Margarito.

Cintron is way bigger puncher than Judah and Margarito had no problems with him. How is that not a testament to his defence.

Cintron is way bigger puncher than Judah and Margarito had no problems with him. How is that not a testament to his defence.

questionable.

That is just a testament to Margarito's defence.

lol nah, it's a testament on Cintron's inability of grabbing the opportunity by the throat. Marguarito aint no Wright, he gets hit. If Zab can catch Spinks, you realy think Marguarito can dodge Judah's punches?

lol nah, it's a testament on Cintron's inability of grabbing the opportunity by the throat. Marguarito aint no Wright, he gets hit. If Zab can catch Spinks, you realy think Marguarito can dodge Judah's punches?

Spinks chin is questoinable, Margarito's is not. And Margarito is way better banger than Spinks, Spinks is featherfisted. I dont think Judah can deal with the big bangers like Margarito, especially ones that got skills like him.

First of all I pick Judah by UD or late stoppage.
Cintron indeed punches harder but... does not have the arsenal(skills), handspeed or accuracy thus Judah's power overall is much better than of Cintron. Cintron is bigger man with his puncches but Judah is a better man. But back to Margarito. IMO Judah beats him because overall Marga's defense is nothing special and he is pretty slow on his feet. Zab will come in and come out landing however he wants. But the only thing I see that may go against Zab is that he may become carelss while dominating and get caught real bad. But if he keeps focused at all time I think he got everything to beat Antonio.

Spinks chin is questoinable, Margarito's is not. And Margarito is way better banger than Spinks, Spinks is featherfisted. I dont think Judah can deal with the big bangers like Margarito, especially ones that got skills like him.

That is ridiculous. McKay. I dont know where you get these things from.

Spinks chin is questoinable, Margarito's is not. And Margarito is way better banger than Spinks, Spinks is featherfisted. I dont think Judah can deal with the big bangers like Margarito, especially ones that got skills like him.

Spinks withstood Mayorga's shots. And even if you think Spinks chin is questinable, Judah's power and speed isn't. My point is, Judah is gonna land more than Marguarito will. And for the record CS is better schooled than AM and he stil had trouble with Judah. If Marguarito wanna bang, Judah's more than game.

Spinks withstood Mayorga's shots. And even if you think Spinks chin is questinable, Judah's power and speed isn't. My point is, Judah is gonna land more than Marguarito will. And for the record CS is better schooled than AM and he stil had trouble with Judah. If Marguarito wanna bang, Judah's more than game.

He aint "more than game" Judah's chin is very very questionable.

He aint "more than game" Judah's chin is very very questionable.

cuz of the Tszyu hit?

Judah Would Win By Ko With His Blinding Speed

Judah is awesome. He stopped Reggie Green...who I hate with a passion. He also outpointed one of my least favorite fighters in Junior "hitter" Witter. He is like a super-hero. LOL!

That is ridiculous. McKay. I dont know where you get these things from.
LOL

Good one!

Oh...Reggie Green and Junior Writter. shock horror. What a terror Judah is. And to add the featherfisted Michal Spinks to the list. Is there a chance Judah shall ever face another defeat?
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Has nothing to do with their ability. I was talking about me not liking them personally. Showtime is an *******....Witter is an *******.....and Judah kicked their asses. That is all I am saying.

Oh...and Nady is a dickweed. LOL!

Cuz Cintron never landed clean.
I saw Cintron land a lot of clean punches even good combinations.
The only thing Zab can do to win this fight is run like hell.
Margarito has the edge in everything except speed. Did you guys see a 175 pound Santos landing on Margarito flush and not stopping him from coming foward.
Margarito is a monster at 147 id even say he hits as hard as Tszu.

I saw Cintron land a lot of clean punches even good combinations.
The only thing Zab can do to win this fight is run like hell.
Margarito has the edge in everything except speed. Did you guys see a 175 pound Santos landing on Margarito flush and not stopping him from coming foward.
Margarito is a monster at 147 id even say he hits as hard as Tszu.

Cintron was way to unstable that night. I prolly saw one clean punch land other than that the rest weren't flush. I see Judah landing straight lefts all night long. But like you said Marguarito IS a relentless monster and I think he's almost twice as big as Judah, so size and preassure advantage might play out. Still I see Judah's speed landing quick enough to land cleaner than anyone else. Hopefully we'll get to see this fight.

Judah by KO, he is in his prime right now and is focused.

Of course nobody can accuse you of being biased in this instance "the truth" since you have a Zab Judah picture as your avatar.

Does that mean that you only like fighter's with a "Mushroom" style haircut...cuz you and Gatti have one.

Does that mean that you only like fighter's with a "Mushroom" style haircut...cuz you and Gatti have one.

This statement is not even worth a response. it was mildly entertaining, but let me remind you, we are trying to talk boxing here, not haircut styles.

This statement is not even worth a response. it was mildly entertaining, but let me remind you, we are trying to talk boxing here, not haircut styles.


Check your box.

I would expect Zab to beat Margarito by stoppage. Those mexicans are some tough SOBs, so a clean knockout isn't likely.

Like others here, I belive Super Judah would just be way too fast and skillfull for Margarito to handle, thus being able to land clean punches at will.
I don't see nothing special in Antonio. That's why I don't feel he would cause too much problems to Zab.
Yes, he has good power, and relentless pressure, but that shouldn't be anything new for one of the best fighters in the world.

I got Margarito by KO/stoppage; Zab is just to small for Marg, yes he is faster, I'll give him that. I have seen past fights with Marga and a faster opponent and instead of trying to play catch up he cuts off the ring and takes them out. Remember guys, it's not all about speed and power it's also about brains, and nothing against Zab, I just beleive Marga has more boxing skill and ring discipline than Zab. I have something else to say, I am willing to bet that some of you guys that are saying Zab will win, are the same one's that were going for Cory spinks when they fought. Now since Zab won you guys jumped on the band wagon. Again, I said SOME...I didn't say "all you guys".

Of course nobody can accuse you of being biased in this instance "the truth" since you have a Zab Judah picture as your avatar.

And you can be accused of being a dumbass, because your avatar is retarded.

Zab is incredibly fast, and was caught by Tsyzu, who has a hell of a punch. He got up too fast, and fell back down, so Nady stopped it. Had he stayed down for four seconds more, and gotten up at 6 or 7 we might have seen a different fight.

Also, to oj, Zab is one of the fastest men in that division. Margarito has not fought anyone as fast as Zab. (I didn't care who won the Spinks/Judah matches, btw)

Zab by UD.

And you can be accused of being a dumbass, because your avatar is retarded.

Zab is incredibly fast, and was caught by Tsyzu, who has a hell of a punch. He got up too fast, and fell back down, so Nady stopped it. Had he stayed down for four seconds more, and gotten up at 6 or 7 we might have seen a different fight.

Also, to oj, Zab is one of the fastest men in that division. Margarito has not fought anyone as fast as Zab. (I didn't care who won the Spinks/Judah matches, btw)

Zab by UD.

Yeah whatever toughguy, we are talking about boxing not my haircut or avatar. Bring some actual points to the table when you make an attempt to converse with me. I dont want to hear your zab nuthugging diatribe sunshine. Zab's chin is made of finely crafted glass, Margarito would expose it and you know it.

Im not a huge Zab fan but I recognize that he's very skilled and very focused right now. He's in his prime and seems to really want to hold onto his belt. I like Margarito, but I think that Zab would open up on him by hitting him with quick, hard shots at all angles. Zab's 1,2 and straight right are looking very nice these days. Margarito really opens up later in his fights but I don't know if he'd be able to rebound from Zab's early work. I might even say Zab by a late stoppage if MArgarito needs something big. I really just don't see Margarito beating him any other way except hitting him with a huge punch and then following up very effectively.

Yeah whatever toughguy, we are talking about boxing not my haircut or avatar. Bring some actual points to the table when make an attempt to converse with me I dont want to here your zab nuthugging diatribe cunt. Zab chin is made of fine glass Margarito would expose it and you know it you filthy lying cunt.

You don't know what diatribe means, do you?

Zab is too fast, Margarito would be too confused by his speed.

Yeah whatever toughguy, we are talking about boxing not my haircut or avatar. Bring some actual points to the table when make an attempt to converse with me I dont want to here your zab nuthugging diatribe cunt. Zab chin is made of fine glass Margarito would expose it and you know it you filthy lying cunt.


Based on what? His loss to Tszyu and off balance KD from Spinks?

You don't know what diatribe means, do you?

Zab is too fast, Margarito would be too confused by his speed.

Zab has a chin made out of fine glass, he is not that fast, he is somewhat fast. But his speed is not going to overwhelm Margarito. Margarito will pressure his ass, land a big shot to his chin, Zab will go down. However Badmagic I give you credit for actually attempting a real argument pertaining to boxing ( you have prooved yourself moderalately capable of it).

I'll be laughing if Margarito makes easy work of Zab like he did Cintron. Like I said before I dont see Zab winning this fight unless he runs like hell.

Zab has a chin made out of fine glass, he is not that fast, he is somewhat fast. But his speed is not going to overwhelm Margarito. Margarito will pressure his ass, land a big shot to his chin, Zab will go down. However Badmagic I give you credit for actually attempting a real argument pertaining to boxing ( you have prooved yourself moderalately capable of it). This is good, keep it up chief.

So is that a no on diatribe?

Also, I said that in the post before that one, too.

no really why is Zabs chin made of fine glass again?

I dont know maybe the poll speaks for itself we got 10 people out of 26 total voting for Judah to be stopped. So I guess my opinion that Zab's chin is made out of fine glass in not a unique one.

I dont know maybe the poll speaks for itself we got 10 people out of 26 total voting for Judah to be stopped. So I guess my opinion that Zab's chin is made out of fine glass in not a unique one.
He was hit by a 140 pounder and looked bad.
He is gonna get hit by a big 147 pounder, do the math.
It is get ko ed or run, unless he has the power to hurt Margarito which would be news to me.

Margarito won't box Zabs ear off....

but he will punch his head off

Cintron hits harder than Judah. Margarito did not have any problem with Cintron's power why should he have a problem with Judah's?

but is cintron faster than JUDAH no..as you guys know speed = power what you dont see or expect hurts more

Spinks chin is questoinable, Margarito's is not. And Margarito is way better banger than Spinks, Spinks is featherfisted. I dont think Judah can deal with the big bangers like Margarito, especially ones that got skills like him.

spinks defense is alot better than margarito's so if judah can take out spinks why cant he hit margarito? come on man stop arguing that margarito defense is good..its not good ..its decent..and spinks chin is not questionable..margarito has been wobbled millions of times

Of course nobody can accuse you of being biased in this instance "the truth" since you have a Zab Judah picture as your avatar.

and you are a known judah hater

Margarito Ko's Judah somewhere in first three rounds. Judah is a good boxer, but Margarito is one step better. Being one step better is the difference between a good jab in the jaw or a body shot in the corner.

He was hit by a 140 pounder and looked bad.
He is gonna get hit by a big 147 pounder, do the math.
It is get ko ed or run, unless he has the power to hurt Margarito which would be news to me.

tsyzu is a bigger and faster puncher than margarito

Zab has a chin made out of fine glass, he is not that fast, he is somewhat fast. But his speed is not going to overwhelm Margarito. Margarito will pressure his ass, land a big shot to his chin, Zab will go down. However Badmagic I give you credit for actually attempting a real argument pertaining to boxing ( you have prooved yourself moderalately capable of it). This is good, keep it up chief.

how can you say judah is not that fast...hes seems pretty damn fast to me..and that will be his advantage in the fight..and judah seems to have brought his power up to 147..he has scored a knockdown in every one of his welterweight fights

how can you say judah is not that fast...hes seems pretty damn fast to me..and that will be his advantage in the fight..and judah seems to have brought his power up to 147..he has scored a knockdown in every one of his welterweight fights

I imagine he also claims Roy Jones isn't that fast.

Zab reminds me a lot of Roy with his dropped hand, and super speed. He can move in and out faster than anyone else right now, and that's what makes him so good.

The thing is, he doesn't have a granite chin, so if he goes nuts on Margarito, he COULD get KOed from a lucky counter. That's the thing I don't like about Zab is that he lets himself go too fast.

Either way, Zab is too fast.

EDIT: Count the votes, dip****. 16-13 say Zab wins. Your opinion is not all that's on the forums. In fact, more people disagree with you, than agree. (directed at McKay)

tsyzu is a bigger and faster puncher than margarito
I beg to differ Margarito is bigger and their power isnt much far off. Margarito would land and destroy most 140 pounders.What he does is wear you down as the fight progreses he doesnt try to kill you with one punch like Tszu.

Margarito simply , outclassed a young fighter in cintron , who in turn really was in way over his head .
HE didnt have any fight left in him the second the blood started flowing. Zab not being a hard puncher is ludicrous,
If there is anything Zab has and that is power and speed , he may lack technique but saying he doesnt have power was soken by someone who obviously doesnt know Zab ,
" The future of the Welterweight Division"
Zab By KO

Margarito simply , outclassed a young fighter in cintron , who in turn really was in way over his head .
HE didnt have any fight left in him the second the blood started flowing. Zab not being a hard puncher is ludicrous,
If there is anything Zab has and that is power and speed , he may lack technique but saying he doesnt have power was soken by someone who obviously doesnt know Zab ,
" The future of the Welterweight Division"
Zab By KO
I never said he didnt have power, his record shows it, but like I said before it would be news to me if he can actually stop Margarito from landing his usuall that eventually would be to much for Zab.

Margarito had no problem landing on Cintron... that was the problem he hit Cintron with every punch in the book.

Margarito had no problem landing on Cintron... that was the problem he hit Cintron with every punch in the book.

Remember. If Margarito and Mosley fight...we have a bet on that!

Margarito simply , outclassed a young fighter in cintron , who in turn really was in way over his head .
HE didnt have any fight left in him the second the blood started flowing. Zab not being a hard puncher is ludicrous,
If there is anything Zab has and that is power and speed , he may lack technique but saying he doesnt have power was soken by someone who obviously doesnt know Zab ,
" The future of the Welterweight Division"
Zab By KO

whoa i had to look twice cause i thought i poisted this lol

Looks like Antonio Margarito is Boxingcene welterweight champion.

Looks like Antonio Margarito is Boxingcene welterweight champion.

how is that?

i think judah can outbox margarito

Judah late round TKO, to quick I think he learned his lesson againts Kostya, you dont need an Iron jaw in boxing if you dont get hit, I like the way he twicked up his defensive skilss he is more polished now and less reckless

Here is another statstic about Antonio Margarito


Combined Record of Antonio Margarito's last 5 opponents

117-10-3 (90% win ratio)


Margarito is bigger and stronger than Judah. He has better Stamina, he hits harder, he has better chin,he has fought the better opposition, and he has the edge in ring experience.

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Here is another statstic about Antonio Margarito


Combined Record of Antonio Margarito's last 5 opponents

117-10-3 (90% win ratio)


Margarito is bigger and stronger than Judah. He has better Stamina, he hits harder, he has better chin,he has fought the better opposition, and he has the edge in ring experience.
i put 100M to judah if this happen ;)

Margarito is bigger and stronger than Judah. He has better Stamina, he hits harder, he has better chin,he has fought the better opposition, and he has the edge in ring experience.
judah is just a great boxer to be outclassed by margarito ;)

The way Margarito is being built up is ridiculous. I guess this is boxing in the Internet age...some guy looks good knocking down a subpar fighter and suddenly his groupies jump on-line and drool about how good he is. **** that.

Seriously, what has Margarito done to earn this praise? It's bull****. Look, Margarito and Judah both faced similarly weak opponents recently in Cintron and Rivera. Margarito took too damn long against a guy who after the first punch was stunned like a deer in headlights. Judah knocks his guy out like in the first thirty seconds.

The only way that this fight could be close is if Judah slides back into his old poor work ethic. I think he has done more than enough to prove in his last couple of fights that that won't happen.

Remember how people were going ga-ga for Trinidad after he beat a guy that was tailor-made for him to beat up bad? Well, it's the same thing with Margarito. He fought a guy with slow feet and bad defence so of course he looked good. You put him in with a guy he can't catch and he will look terrible. Even in the Lujuan fight he looked lousy cause the guy had a bit of speed.

It's Tuesday morning after a holiday weekend and I'm tired as hell. **** Margarito.

The way Margarito is being built up is ridiculous. I guess this is boxing in the Internet age...some guy looks good knocking down a subpar fighter and suddenly his groupies jump on-line and drool about how good he is. **** that.

Seriously, what has Margarito done to earn this praise? It's bull****. Look, Margarito and Judah both faced similarly weak opponents recently in Cintron and Rivera. Margarito took too damn long against a guy who after the first punch was stunned like a deer in headlights. Judah knocks his guy out like in the first thirty seconds.

The only way that this fight could be close is if Judah slides back into his old poor work ethic. I think he has done more than enough to prove in his last couple of fights that that won't happen.

Remember how people were going ga-ga for Trinidad after he beat a guy that was tailor-made for him to beat up bad? Well, it's the same thing with Margarito. He fought a guy with slow feet and bad defence so of course he looked good. You put him in with a guy he can't catch and he will look terrible. Even in the Lujuan fight he looked lousy cause the guy had a bit of speed.

It's Tuesday morning after a holiday weekend and I'm tired as hell. **** Margarito.

What the hell are you rambling about. If anything Margariot is very underrated and totally obscure. He is the WBO champ, his last 5 opponents have 90% win percentage. He has a great chin, great power, decent skills, good stamina, and he is ranked #2 by ********* behind Judah and De La Hoya.

What upsets me is Da La Hoya is not even really in the Welterweight divison and Judah wont give this guy a shot. And look how many people in this poll respond that Margarito would knock Judah out. Judah does not own the Welterweight divsion until he beats Margarito. For Judah, Margarito is the best opponent in his divison without a doubt and he has no interest in fighting him. I feel sorry for Margarito. He is being left out in the cold. Margarito would be the biggest test Judah ever had. Judah got the belts from Corey Spinks and now he thinks he is the man for beating Spinks. Spinks is not that good. Margarito is a way more game opponent than Spinks. Margarito has just as much right to say he is champ of Welterweight divison as Judah does. Maybe if De La Hoya fights and beats Judah then Margarito will finally get a shot at the belts he deserves a chance at.

42.5% of poll respondants think Judah gets stopped by Margarito the WBO champ. Judah for sure is not undisputed Champion by boxingscene rankings (fan rankings.) 20 out of 47 total poll respondants say Judah gets stopped by Margarito. That speaks for itself.

What the hell are you rambling about. If anything Margariot is very underrated and totally obscure. He is the WBO champ, his last 5 opponents have 90% win percentage. He has a great chin, great power, decent skills, good stamina, and he is ranked #2 by ********* behind Judah and De La Hoya.


If he is so hihgly ranked and so adored by so many people on this forum, I would hardly call him obscure.


What upsets me is Da La Hoya is not even really in the Welterweight divison and Judah wont give this guy a shot. And look how many people in this poll respond that Margarito would knock Judah out. Judah does not own the Welterweight divsion until he beats Margarito. For Judah, Margarito is the best opponent in his divison without a doubt and he has no interest in fighting him. I feel sorry for Margarito. He is being left out in the cold. Margarito would be the biggest test Judah ever had. Judah got the belts from Corey Spinks and now he thinks he is the man for beating Spinks. Spinks is not that good. Margarito is a way more game opponent than Spinks. Margarito has just as much right to say he is champ of Welterweight divison as Judah does. Maybe if De La Hoya fights and beats Judah then Margarito will finally get a shot at the belts he deserves a chance at.


De La Hoya explicitly said that he would not fight Margarito. Where the hell did this St.De La Hoya bull**** come from from everyone? Anyway, Spinks owned three title belts and the Ring championship, while Margarito had the damn WBO belt. Just because a few people try to hype the WBO belt doesn't mean it's all that great. You telling me Lamon Brewster is the heavyweight champ of the world?


42.5% of poll respondants think Judah gets stopped by Margarito the WBO champ. Judah for sure is not undisputed Champion by boxingscene rankings (fan rankings.)


Well, the fan rankings said that Tito would beat Winky as well.

If he is so hihgly ranked and so adored by so many people on this forum, I would hardly call him obscure.



De La Hoya explicitly said that he would not fight Margarito. Where the hell did this St.De La Hoya bull**** come from from everyone? Anyway, Spinks owned three title belts and the Ring championship, while Margarito had the damn WBO belt. Just because a few people try to hype the WBO belt doesn't mean it's all that great. You telling me Lamon Brewster is the heavyweight champ of the world?



Well, the fan rankings said that Tito would beat Winky as well.

People on this website know more about boxing than most. And they say Margarito stops Judah. And Spinks got his belts from winning a Majority descison against Ricardo Mayorga. Ricardo Mayorga I like personally but is not that good. Look how Trinidad made him look like he was nothing. And all Spinks could muster against Mayorga was a Majority descison. And Spinks is the pefect opponent for Judah because he does not hit hard and he is a boxer.


Margarito is a big strong hard hitting Mexican banger with a good chin and good stamina exactly the kind of fighter that would give Judah problems.

That is why Judah is ducking him. Because Judah is ***** and knows he would lose and does not want to take on real challenges except against De La Hoya to make the money and get the publicity.

People on this website know more about boxing than most. And they say Margarito stops Judah. And Spinks got his belts from winning a Majority descison against Ricardo Mayorga. Ricardo Mayorga I like personally but is not that good. Look how Trinidad made him look like he was nothing. And all Spinks could must against Mayorga was a Majority descison. And Spinks is the pefect opponent for Judah because he does not hit hard and he is a boxer.


Margarito is a big strong hard hitting Mexican banger with a good chin and good stamina exactly the kind of fighter that would give Judah problems.

That is why Judah is ducking him. Because Judah is ***** and knows he would lose and does not want to take on real challenges except against De La Hoya to make the money. The guy is what you call a whore.

Yo, what's the deal with the fonts :confused:

I'm done arguing about this because there's no point. These two will probably fight sooner rather than later. Why wouldn't Zab want to fight Oscar at this point? He needs to make a big payday after taking zilch to beat Spinks, and this is against a guy whose a big name but little risk at this point in his career. De La Hoya is gold to anyone who fights him now for these reasons.

I agree that it would be a test for Judah and I respect the fact that you think it could the other way from what I'm thinking. However, if I'm right and Zab wins, you can bet that a lot of the Margarito groupies on this site that don't really know that much about boxing will cry home to mommy after he loses and post about how much he sucks, just like what happened after Tito lost.

You and a few other guys know your **** well enough. But these "fans" that you are using as evidence of Margarito's popularity are mostly made up of groupies, the same type of people that abandoned Trinidad and the same ones that will ditch Gatti after he gets beaten bad by Mayweather.

Here is the other Judah Margarito thread. The poll results are interesting. I think Margarito is underratted and that poll further evidences that. I think Margarito deserves a title shot above anybody else at Welter.

Here is the other Judah Margarito thread. The poll results are interesting. I think Margarito is underratted and that poll further evidences that. I think Margarito deserves a title shot above anybody else at Welter.
there's no doubt margarito is deserved to fight a legitimate title at welter. but Zab's skills are primed for this division, he has great handspeed and a powerful left.

there's no doubt margarito is deserved to fight a legitimate title at welter. but Zab's skills are primed for this division, he has great handspeed and a powerful left.

And a finely crafted glass chin to go with it.

And a finely crafted glass chin to go with it.
well, anyone would raise the thing with KT's job on their previous fight

I think Margarito wins...Judah gets brave and gets caught...he has amazing skills but I think Margarito would catch him late for a ko

judah better box and stay away from margarito. if he does that i think judah's speed will win the fight

Cintron hits harder than Judah. Margarito did not have any problem with Cintron's power why should he have a problem with Judah's?


based on what? the only good fighter he beat was reid and he struggled with him and reid has a terrible chin.

judah just beat a guy who had never been knocked down or out in 3 rounds. he knocked rivera down with the first punch he threw. cintron was so overrated he has decent power its cant even be called very good and it also cant be said it isnt very good cause its yet to be proven. judah has knocked down and out mayb good fighters.

based on what? the only good fighter he beat was reid and he struggled with him and reid has a terrible chin.

judah just beat a guy who had never been knocked down or out in 3 rounds. he knocked rivera down with the first punch he threw. cintron was so overrated he has decent power its cant even be called very good and it also cant be said it isnt very good cause its yet to be proven. judah has knocked down and out mayb good fighters.

You have really hit bottom when you are consigned to attempting to prop up a journeyman like Cosme Rivera. And then a washed up inactive guy like Mitchell.

You have really hit bottom when you are consigned to attempting to prop up a journeyman like Cosme Rivera. And then a washed up inactive guy like Mitchell.


are you telling me mitchell isnt better than cintron. mitchell would embarrass cintron and beat him easily. im not saying rivera was a good opponent but he was never knocked down or out and judah destroyed him in 3 rounds, not to mention he knocked him down in the first 30 seconds with the first punch he threw.

Well Margarito would have a hard time with Judahs speed but not with his power. Cintron did punch clean a couple of times and did nothing to margarito. So i think margarito would win all the way

im suprised by the results. but zab aint faced a puncher since tsyzu, and margrito will hurt him, would be a great fight, its 50-50

Cintron is much heavier-fisted than Zab, but not necessarily a bigger puncher.
Cintron is very slow, while Zab is very explosive....hitting his foes with lightning quick shots, from angles.

I'd make Zab a slight favorite over Margarito, because of the huge speed advantage he has....
But, if Zab cannot hurt Antonio...there's a good chance Margarito takes him out late.

Cintron is much heavier-fisted than Zab, but not necessarily a bigger puncher.
Cintron is very slow, while Zab is very explosive....hitting his foes with lightning quick shots, from angles.

I'd make Zab a slight favorite over Margarito, because of the huge speed advantage he has....
But, if Zab cannot hurt Antonio...there's a good chance Margarito takes him out late.



i don't think Zab will be able to hurt Antonio. Cintron is a big puncher, he hit Margarito flush several times in their fight, i remember it well, and marga didn't even blink. Antonio will have trouble with Zab's speed, but Zab will have much more trouble with marga's power, also, margarito has the perfect style to **** Judah up. i like both fighters, but i think margarito wins. margarito is an animal, when he gets in the ring, he hammers his opponent until their ears fall off

This Should Be Judah's Biggest Test As Of Recent, I Think This Fight Is Going To Be A Ko On Jadah's Part He Just Has More Speed Than Citron And Very Good Power, I Dont Think Margarito Is Going To Know What Hit Him. The Only Problem Judah Is He Keeps Himself Open When He Throws His Punches And If Margarito Catches Him He Is In Some Trouble. Ko Judah In The 10th

Cintron is much heavier-fisted than Zab, but not necessarily a bigger puncher.
Cintron is very slow, while Zab is very explosive....hitting his foes with lightning quick shots, from angles.

I'd make Zab a slight favorite over Margarito, because of the huge speed advantage he has....
But, if Zab cannot hurt Antonio...there's a good chance Margarito takes him out late.
I agree with this and I really dont think Jab can hurt Margarito.If Zab uses his speed he might be able to stun Margarito but if Zab wants to win this fight he will have to get on his bike and endure the presure Margarito will bring.This fight has classic written all over it. I cant believe Margarito isnt getting the fights he wants.This is the fight that should be happening at welter and I cant see why they keep stalling this fight.Maybe margarito should take some **** talking classes and piss Judah off so maybe he can man up and fight Margarito.

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On Da Serio Side I Say, Margarito Wins 9 Or 10 Round Tko. I Belive Judah Will B Ahead At The Time, Probably By A Couple Rounds. Early On He Will Outbox Tony, And He Will B Confident And Start Throwing Wild Punches. Tonys Gonna Hit Him, Hard, And Zabs Not Gonna B Able 2 Take It. Zab Cant Cant Cant Hurt Margarito No Way.tonys A Bad Ass Mexican And He'll Prove It, Then People Will Finally Give Him Credit As A Good Fighter. And Also I Think Zabs Overated. Hes Got Skills, Pero He Hasnt Beat N E 1 Special. Hes Got 1 Big Win Over Spinks, Which Ill Admit Was Impressive. But Besides That, He Hasnt Really Fought N E Hard Competion.
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I say Margarito wins by stoppage. When is Judah going to stop ducking Margarito.
My opinion is the same. I think a KO by 9th round, Relax, Judah fans, it is only a opinion, im not calling Judah a name.


This fight will never happen, Don King and Bob Arum wont agree to make terms to fight work.

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On Da Serio Side I Say, Margarito Wins 9 Or 10 Round Tko. I Belive Judah Will B Ahead At The Time, Probably By A Couple Rounds. Early On He Will Outbox Tony, And He Will B Confident And Start Throwing Wild Punches. Tonys Gonna Hit Him, Hard, And Zabs Not Gonna B Able 2 Take It. Zab Cant Cant Cant Hurt Margarito No Way.tonys A Bad Ass Mexican And He'll Prove It, Then People Will Finally Give Him Credit As A Good Fighter. And Also I Think Zabs Overated. Hes Got Skills, Pero He Hasnt Beat N E 1 Special. Hes Got 1 Big Win Over Spinks, Which Ill Admit Was Impressive. But Besides That, He Hasnt Really Fought N E Hard Competion.
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I agree with you Danger, Margarito is a hard hitter I think we might see (if the fight was to happen) Zab get knocked out like he did when he fought Zoo, he faced a hard hitter and his glass jaw couldnt take it, and I dont think his gold teeth give him a solid jaw so if the fight was to happen, Margarito by a for sure TKO.

FUK I NO ESE IF THE FIGHT HAPPENS, :confused: CUZ THESE PROMOTERS R FUKED UP NOW ADAYS, I DONT BELIVE THIS FIGHT WILL HAPPEN. EITHER THE PROMOTERS WONT AGREE ON DA FIGHT, OR ZABS GONNA PUSSIE OUT.

Spinks chin is questoinable, Margarito's is not. And Margarito is way better banger than Spinks, Spinks is featherfisted. I dont think Judah can deal with the big bangers like Margarito, especially ones that got skills like him.


well margarito was hurt by santos, and he sure isnt a hard puncher i know it was at 154 but still. margarito definitely throws more than spinks and is more powerful but hes not as accurate or as fast. and margarito is not got that much skill. spinks chin is not question, he took huge shots from mayorga at mayorga most powerful weight 147 and yeah he went down like 3-5 times with the idiot ref not counting them as knock downs but still he wasnt anywhere near as hurt there as he was against judah. and its a lot more difficult to catch someone whos running or who covers up a lot like spinks than it is to catch someone who has no defense and comes forward like margarito. we got a preview of what would happen in the cosme rivera fight, just a longer beating for margarito, and not as quick and ending for judah cause margarito is tough. but zab will rip him apart with combos. margarito is wide open down the middle and for zab thats perfect cause his fav 2 punches are what? the straight left and the right uppercut, and now he is throwing the left uppercut and all those go right down the middle. i see zab stopping him between 7-9 somewhere

Zab Judah is a very gifted fighter, that saidZab will make it not happen cause he wants a good fight with a easier opponent with a bigger name that will get him more money but he also wants to fight Mayweather who is very tough. I dont think he wants Margarito yet or even at all. I dont know how Zab thinks

Which guy called Judah The BET Champ??

Which guy called Judah The BET Champ??
I never heard anyone call Judah the BET champ until you mentioned it. It sounds funny but its messed up

Lmao, i think it was Vicente Fox, those damn Mexicans.:D

Por seguro son esos Mexicanos, eyos asen todo mal, son malvados esos locotes, simon ,es la rasa, siempre son los Mexicanos,


Nah it wasnt us Mexicans, maybe BET did make Zab a BET champ. Maybe not. I dont know

Maybe somebody was just making a joke and called him a BET champ.I dont know

He aint "more than game" Judah's chin is very very questionable.


EVeryone knows that Mckay is a Judah Hater .

MArgarito is too slow to keep up with judah .

i think that antonio would win by decision ... maybe

EVeryone knows that Mckay is a Judah Hater .

MArgarito is too slow to keep up with judah .
Judah is the most talented fighter in ALL of boxing due to his movement and skills. That being said,I give Margarito a slight advantage due to his power. Nobody really knows what will happen unless they fight. Thats when we know who really is a better fighter, right now, everyone gives opinions on a fight that will prob. never happen

36 to 37 wow thats pretty close.

36 to 37 wow thats pretty close.
Close???? 43% say Margarito by ko.:D it was closer to 50 earlier.

Margarito by KO

well i have never seen Margarito fight(would like to see) so i can't comment on how the fight would go.....

But i have seen Zab fight and if its true that Margarito had a hard time find Cintron at first then i damn sure know he will have a hell of a time finding Zab unless he starts doing his little dance(which he always does)

Don't know how Zab would win but i'd pick him