The WBC has ordered an immediate rematch of Castillo-Corrales. I guess now we get to see "quien es el mas macho" again.

My money is on Castillo by TKO6.

my money is on corralles refusing it and handing in his title......

he knows he was lucky.

The WBC has ordered an immediate rematch of Castillo-Corrales. I guess now we get to see "quien es el mas macho" again.

My money is on Castillo by TKO6.

corrales by KO again

Yeah, we can debate this all night long but, after the beating Corrales took (and how dishearted he looked in the corner and durning rounds 5 and 6), I just don't think he has it in him to win against a person who will come in there possessed.

I imagine the WBC will strip Corrales. I don't think this rematch will happen, at least not in the timeframe the WBC will require.

This way they can give Castillo his belt back. Diego will still be the Ring champ, though

Rgw WBC are haters, they want to kill Corrales, he should say **** it, box on the outside, and win easily on points.

if corrales complies i will be very suprised. i would give castillo the edge if they do have the rematch. castillo will not mess around. if corrales wants to win he would have to try and do what winky did. jab and run all night long. that would make a very boring fight.

I pick Corrales again, by KO, only earlier this time....probably before 6 or 7.

Also, I think a mandatory rematch between these two is a ****ing mistake, for either fighter. Nobody should be forced into another potential brutal war like that.

The only reason the WBC wants this fight is because they are mexican organization and there Mexican champion lost. If Castillo won there would have been no disputing it. Corrales says he wanted one great fight for the ages and he got it with Castillo, he could easily keep a distance and keep his long jab in Castillos face all night if he wished and Castillo couldnt do a damn thing about it.

I pick Corrales again, by KO, only earlier this time....probably before 6 or 7.

Also, I think a mandatory rematch between these two is a ****ing mistake, for either fighter. Nobody should be forced into another potential brutal war like that.
Castillo isn't being forced. He asked the WBC to take up the investigation and order a rematch. It's what he wants. Corrales, on the other hand, probably wants some bum off the streets to make some quick $$$ with little risk.

I Corrales will give up the belt and announce that he's moving up.

Castillo isn't being forced. He asked the WBC to take up the investigation and order a rematch. It's what he wants. Corrales, on the other hand, probably wants some bum off the streets to make some quick $$$ with little risk.


Corrales wants either Morales or Cotto, hardly bums off the streets.

Corrales wants either Morales or Cotto, hardly bums off the streets.

What kind of threat would Morales pose to Corrales.

And wtf would Cotto be thinking if he takes that fight?

Will he ever meet Vivian Harris?

What kind of threat would Morales pose to Corrales.

And wtf would Cotto be thinking if he takes that fight?

Will he ever meet Vivian Harris?


Morales wouldnt be much of a threat but Morales and Corrales both are interested. It is a bigger thing for Morales than Corrales but still no bum fight that is for sure.

Cotto had stated after his next fight that he would be interested in the Castillo/Corrales winner or the winner of Tszyu/Hatton.

Vivian has yet to be named by Cotto and Mayweather comments "Who is Vivian"

Still in the dark for the man at 140 who ranks 2nd in that division below the phenom known as Mayweather.

Cotto seems satisfied cleaning up his amateur losses for the time being, anyone know how many times he had lost in the amateurs? Because I am getting sick of hearing about them and him fighting these guys.

Still in the dark for the man at 140 who ranks 2nd in that division below the phenom known as Mayweather.

What happened to Kostya Tzyu? Who beat Kostya Tzyu? did Mayweather beat Kostya Tzyu?

What happened to Kostya Tzyu? Who beat Kostya Tzyu? did Mayweather beat Kostya Tzyu?


Wow I totally forgot about Tszyu, Mayweather still possesses more skill than Tszyu. Vivian is still two, Tszyu and Mayweather tied at first. These guys need to fight it would be a hell of a fight, I would favor Mayweather. Tszyu looked good against Mitchell but he seems to load up the right hand to much and Mayweather will jump in with combos and back up.

"Who is Vivian"

Mayweather says he knows who he is now. Harris was on a Nas video and someone told Mayweather that he's a champ and told him he is Vivian Harris. Mayweather said he didn't know him, because he never seen him fight on HBO. He's heard of him, but he's never seen him.

Wow I totally forgot about Tszyu, Mayweather still possesses more skill than Tszyu. Vivian is still two, Tszyu and Mayweather tied at first. These guys need to fight it would be a hell of a fight, I would favor Mayweather. Tszyu looked good against Mitchell but he seems to load up the right hand to much and Mayweather will jump in with combos and back up.


Mayweather aint tied with Tzyu. Was Mayweather Undisputed champ at superlightweight? No, but Kostya Tzyu was until he vacated some of the belts to give Mitchell a rematch. Mayweather is new to this division he still has to get threw WBC Superlighweight champion Arturo Gatti before you declare him co King of 140 pound division.

1) Harris is not the 2nd best fighter at 140. More like 7 or 8.

2) Floyd is not the best at 140 even if he beats Gatti.

Mayweather aint tied with Tzyu. Was Mayweather Undisputed champ at superlightweight? No, but Kostya Tzyu was until he vacated some of the belts to give Mitchell a rematch. Mayweather is new to this division he still has to get threw WBC Superlighweight champion Arturo Gatti before you declare him co King of 140 pound division.


Please Mayweather will make quick with Gatti, Mayweather has all the skills to be undisputed champion and has fought way better opposition than most at the 140 pound division.

1) Harris is not the 2nd best fighter at 140. More like 7 or 8.

2) Floyd is not the best at 140 even if he beats Gatti.


Name the 6-7 guys that are better than Harris it 140? Humor me please...

Corrales wants either Morales or Cotto, hardly bums off the streets.
Well, Corrales had said (in a ********** interview) that he wanted to make a tune-up or something to that extent because he'd fought many "hard" fights in a row. That's straight from the horse's mouth, BTW.

As for wanting to fight those guys, I'm sure he says it just for the money. I'm going to quote Duggie here, he can call out anyone he wants, as I call out Halle Berry, but I still haven't gotten in her pants no matter how many times I've called her out.

As for Chico fighting Morales, I think Morales is waaaay too small to fight at 135; he'd get killed. He'd do best to stay at 130. I think Chico would win that fight by KO.

As for Vivian, he's probably #4 in the division behind PBF, Tszyu, and Hatton (giving him props for taking on KZ). He might be slightly ahead of Cotto but fighting a bum on HBO PPV on the Gatti-PBF undercard isn't doing much for him, either. He's fighting Mausa, a guy Cotto already beat and who is coming off a loss. I'm sure there were better guys available. People like N'Dou, Witter, Holt. Vivian lost respect from me for taking this bum on.

Please Mayweather will make quick with Gatti, Mayweather has all the skills to be undisputed champion and has fought way better opposition than most at the 140 pound division.
Really, like who?
DeMarcus Corley
Phillip N'dou
Jose Luis Castillo
and Diego Corrales

The only reason everyone is giving him so much credit is because he is an American.

Joe Calzaghe is not even recognized anywhere for being a Super MiddleWeight King with a record of 39-0-0 (31KO).
But is Jeff Lacy gets a hold of the division, all of a sudden it will be the next big thing.

So for Tszyu, a Russian born and living in Australia and being numbered as a 2-4 on Most P4P lists that's already something while Mayweather is ranked 1-2.
If Tszyu and Mayweather were to swap resumes, Mayweather would still be a 1-2 (Mayweather/Hopkins) But Tszyu would probably not even be in the top 5.

Don't get smart, gringo. This is easy for anyone to see. This is coming from a Harris fan. He has potential, "BUT"...

Name the 6-7 guys that are better than Harris it 140? Humor me please...

This is arguable to a certain extent, but looking at what Harris has literally done, you cannot clearly place him above the following:

1) Kostya Tszyu
2) Floyd Mayweather
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Lovermore N-dou
5) Junior Witter
6) Arturo Gatti
7) Miguel Cotto
8) Demarcus Corley

It's close...but anyone who says Harris is number 2 in this weight class, is...well, a fool.

Really, like who?
DeMarcus Corley
Phillip N'dou
Jose Luis Castillo
and Diego Corrales

The only reason everyone is giving him so much credit is because he is an American.

Joe Calzaghe is not even recognized anywhere for being a Super MiddleWeight King with a record of 39-0-0 (31KO).
But is Jeff Lacy gets a hold of the division, all of a sudden it will be the next big thing.

So for Tszyu, a Russian born and living in Australia and being numbered as a 2-4 on Most P4P lists that's already something while Mayweather is ranked 1-2.
If Tszyu and Mayweather were to swap resumes, Mayweather would still be a 1-2 (Mayweather/Hopkins) But Tszyu would probably not even be in the top 5.


JLC x2
Corrales
Corley
C. Hernandez
Augustus
G. Hernandez
N'Dou
Chavez
Manfredy

Pretty good resume...

if Calzaghe truely wants to be the king he will stop dickin around and actualy fight lacy, his record is a beefedup one anyways it means nothing.

The only reason everyone is giving him so much credit is because he is an American.

Don't get silly up in here. Joe C. is recognized as the best at 168, but he has been lacking in recent years in opposition, and seems to never fight due to injuries.

Lacy WILL be the next big thing if hebeats Joe C., and rightfully so.

Tszyu does NOT get ranked above Floyd by many because Tszyu is BIGGER. It's really a quite simple concept to understand. If Tszyu was doing what he is doing now, except at middleweight, he would easily be ranked number one p4p. Floyd started at 130 and could still make 130 probably. Floyd just got to 140 so don't disrespect his opposition there yet. N'dou was a decent fighter and Corley is top 10. So is Gatti. He wants to work his way up at 140 but everyone knows he wants Tszyu. Why should he go right up to a new weight class and fight Tszyu first though? That'd be stupid.

You cannot swap Tszyu and Floyd's resumes becuase Floyd used to fight in a lower weightclass. Tszyu would never have been small eough to fight those guys anyway.

Both champions at 168 are ******* agreed?

Witter
Hatton
N'dou
Gatti

Above Vivian noway?

Don't get smart, gringo. This is easy for anyone to see. This is coming from a Harris fan. He has potential, "BUT"...



This is arguable to a certain extent, but looking at what Harris has literally done, you cannot clearly place him above the following:

1) Kostya Tszyu
2) Floyd Mayweather
3) Ricky Hatton
4) Lovermore N-dou
5) Junior Witter
6) Arturo Gatti
7) Miguel Cotto
8) Demarcus Corley

It's close...but anyone who says Harris is number 2 in this weight class, is...well, a fool.


I whole heartedly agree that saying he's number 2 in the div. is insane, but I think he's done just as much as any other guy at 140 (outside of Tszyu) and should be at least in the top 4-5 guys in the division. Beating Urkal twice and Hurtado is just about as impressive as most. Lovemore N'Dou is a battle-tested beast but he hasn't done anything except look good losing to people. Witter hasn't done anything to be put in front of Harris except lose to Judah and win a very close decision over N'Dou. Corley is another guy who has only lost to top guys and has lost twice recently.

In terms of the best guys in the division, for my money they're ranked:

Mayweather, Tszyu, Cotto, Harris, Hatton...

Tszyu is the #1 guy in the div though and rightfully should be. Floyd is next and the other 3 are all about tied in my book.

who's vivan? isnt he the guy who got beat up by ray ray O?

Don't get silly up in here. Joe C. is recognized as the best at 168, but he has been lacking in recent years in opposition, and seems to never fight due to injuries.

Lacy WILL be the next big thing if hebeats Joe C., and rightfully so.

Tszyu does NOT get ranked above Floyd by many because Tszyu is BIGGER. It's really a quite simple concept to understand. If Tszyu was doing what he is doing now, except at middleweight, he would easily be ranked number one p4p. Floyd started at 130 and could still make 130 probably. Floyd just got to 140 so don't disrespect his opposition there yet. N'dou was a decent fighter and Corley is top 10. So is Gatti. He wants to work his way up at 140 but everyone knows he wants Tszyu. Why should he go right up to a new weight class and fight Tszyu first though? That'd be stupid.

You cannot swap Tszyu and Floyd's resumes becuase Floyd used to fight in a lower weightclass. Tszyu would never have been small eough to fight those guys anyway.I know what you're saying, but saying Tszyu is BIGGER is over exaggerating.
Here is a little tale of the tape for you:

TSZYU MAYWEATHER
Hight - 5'7 Hight - 5'8
Reach - 67'' Reach - 72''

Notice the 5 inch reach advantage for Mayweather?
So how can you say Tszyu is bigger? Of course Tszyu has a bigger frame as Mayweather has the height and a reach advantage. But I would not say Tszyu is bigger, because Mayweather is skinnier.

If that's your logic, you can say that most everyone Hopkin fights is bigger than him as Hopkins on avarage almost 2.5 inches taller than his competition, thus he has to compensate with his smaller waist and frame.
But if this really the case? Than the last I've heard everyone is saying that Hopkins is "Bigger" than most of his opposition.

lol What's bad is that if Corrales refuses the rematch, most people would label him as a lucky prick that night. I'm guessing he don't want more. Who wants to make a return trip to hell?

Mayweather, Tszyu, Cotto, Harris, Hatton...

Tszyu is the #1 guy in the div though and rightfully should be. Floyd is next and the other 3 are all about tied in my book.
I agree:

1- Tszyu
2- Mayweather
3- Cotto
4- Harris
5- Hatton
6- Mitchell
7- Gatti

Is my top 7

OOPS :hijacked:

Forgot all about Corrales Vs. Castillo.

Corrales is done. This time he wont be able to spit his mouthpiece or be saved by a ***** ref prematurely stopping the fight.

Castillo UD

Corrales is done. This time he wont be able to spit his mouthpiece or be saved by a ***** ref prematurely stopping the fight.

Castillo UD
Don't think the stoppage was premature

IF a rematch does happen, Castillo's knocking him out.

Don't think the stoppage was premature

Its obvious to anyone it was. You have a legend like Castillo who NEVER been knockdown, yet the ref doesnt give him a single opportunity to hit the canvas and take a count, BUT when it comes to Corrales hitting the canvas, he gets 2 full 8 counts and spits the mouthpiece 3 times.

Had the ref been unbiased in the fight Corrales would have lost. Thats why theres a mandatory rematch and controversy over Corrales win. Lets see him pull that **** twice.

I Got 30 Million On Castillo Agian.

Its obvious to anyone it was. You have a legend like Castillo who NEVER been knockdown, yet the ref doesnt give him a single opportunity to hit the canvas and take a count, BUT when it comes to Corrales hitting the canvas, he gets 2 full 8 counts and spits the mouthpiece 3 times.

Had the ref been unbiased in the fight Corrales would have lost. Thats why theres a mandatory rematch and controversy over Corrales win. Lets see him pull that **** twice.


The stoppage was premature when Gatti fought the tough Spaniard Rodriguez in defence of the 130lbs IBF title. Gatti looked in a very similar posisition to Castillo at one point. But he recovered from it and brought some of his own back at Rodriguez.

.No way that was premature. Castillo's pride kept him up but he was out on his feet. When you got one of the hardest hitters p4p swinging away at will at a fighter who has his hands down, I don't give a **** how good your chin is, fight better be stopped before anyone gets hurt.

Its obvious to anyone it was. You have a legend like Castillo who NEVER been knockdown, yet the ref doesnt give him a single opportunity to hit the canvas and take a count, BUT when it comes to Corrales hitting the canvas, he gets 2 full 8 counts and spits the mouthpiece 3 times.

Had the ref been unbiased in the fight Corrales would have lost. Thats why theres a mandatory rematch and controversy over Corrales win. Lets see him pull that **** twice.
And what does any of your mumbling have to do with the stoppage?
Castillo was out on his feet and was not defending himself as Corrales was pounding on him.

Good Stoppage!

It was a dirty win for Corrales and won't happen in a rematch.

The stoppage was premature when Gatti fought the tough Spaniard Rodriguez in defence of the 130lbs IBF title. Gatti looked in a very similar posisition to Castillo at one point. But he recovered from it and brought some of his own back at Rodriguez.


and ya rodriguez hits just as hard as corrales :rolleyes:

Corrales should just go up to 140 and get pounded, if he thinks that he is going to turn down Bob Arum and JL Castillo then why the **** would he think that he has any shot at a big money fight with Morales...Arum is not stupid, Corrales has 2 choices...

1)go up to 140

2)rematch with JL

Arum would be the dumbest promoter alive if he were to allow the Morales v. Corrales fight to happen, no ****ing way. It is JL or up to 140 and that is it for Chico.

It was a dirty win for Corrales and won't happen in a rematch.

Thats right because you know corrales didnt deserve that premature stoppage.

Out on his feet? You nuthuggers always say that **** which is a MYTH. Show me how its possible to be unconcious on your feet.

Fact is the ref should have let a great champ like Castillo have a chance to hit the canvas and try and beat a count. He earned it after 50+ fights without ever falling. But no, only cheating *****es like corrales who do constant faceplants into the canvas get full counts. Corrales spent more time on his knees than on his feet that last round.

The only reason the WBC wants this fight is because they are mexican organization and there Mexican champion lost. If Castillo won there would have been no disputing it. Corrales says he wanted one great fight for the ages and he got it with Castillo, he could easily keep a distance and keep his long jab in Castillos face all night if he wished and Castillo couldnt do a damn thing about it.
I agree 100%, their is allways a problem. Mexicans cant seem to deal with defeat like everyone esle.

Out on his feet? You nuthuggers always say that **** which is a MYTH. Show me how its possible to be unconcious on your feet.
Assume you get hit with a punch that would put you out, if you hit the floor. Now, you go backwards (as some KOs happen) and hit the ropes, spring forward, and get hit again, causing you to go back into the ropes and repeat a vicious cycle. You can be out and about to fall but be kept up by the ropes or even by punches. It is quite possible to be out on your feet.

The stoppage was not premature but it should've never got to that as Chico had waaaay too much time to recover.

I agree 100%, their is allways a problem. Mexicans cant seem to deal with defeat like everyone esle.

When you lose a heartbreaker like JL did defeat is damn tough to deal with, do you not think that Chico and Castillo should get it on again?

You don't believe that JL deserves a rematch? Or is Diego going to wiggle out of this match just like he did with a 3rd fight with Casamyor?

Chavez was a ***** no doubt your right but who else has trouble with defeat? Don't say Oscar against Shane because that fight is easily going to cause controversy because of how close it was...

Think about it if you get dominated like Felix Trinidad does in defeat it is easy to say you lost because the whole world knows it...if Tito would have lost like an Oscar did against Shane or like a JL did against Chico you would not want an immediate remtach for your beloved TITO...you would not be *****ing after the decision?

JL Castillo vs. Diego Corrales...there absolutely positively has to be a rematch, it is a no brainer?

Thats right because you know corrales didnt deserve that premature stoppage.

Out on his feet? You nuthuggers always say that **** which is a MYTH. Show me how its possible to be unconcious on your feet.

Fact is the ref should have let a great champ like Castillo have a chance to hit the canvas and try and beat a count. He earned it after 50+ fights without ever falling. But no, only cheating *****es like corrales who do constant faceplants into the canvas get full counts. Corrales spent more time on his knees than on his feet that last round.

When your eyes are rolled back and your hands are down while someone's punching your head off, please enlighten me, what the **** do you call that?

When you lose a heartbreaker like JL did defeat is damn tough to deal with, do you not think that Chico and Castillo should get it on again?You don't believe that JL deserves a rematch? Or is Diego going to wiggle out of this match just like he did with a 3rd fight with Casamyor?
Chavez was a ***** no doubt your right but who else has trouble with defeat? Don't say Oscar against Shane because that fight is easily going to cause controversy because of how close it was...Think about it if you get dominated like Felix Trinidad does in defeat it is easy to say you lost because the whole world knows it...if Tito would have lost like an Oscar did against Shane or like a JL did against Chico you would not want an immediate remtach for your beloved TITO...you would not be *****ing after the decision?JL Castillo vs. Diego Corrales...there absolutely positively has to be a rematch, it is a no brainer?Castillo isnt a Trinidad or a DLH, he isnt even a great fighter, Diego didnt wigggle his way out of a 3rd Casamayor fight, infact Castillo stold their third fight with a robbery when they fought.

Assume you get hit with a punch that would put you out, if you hit the floor. Now, you go backwards (as some KOs happen) and hit the ropes, spring forward, and get hit again, causing you to go back into the ropes and repeat a vicious cycle. You can be out and about to fall but be kept up by the ropes or even by punches. It is quite possible to be out on your feet.

The stoppage was not premature but it should've never got to that as Chico had waaaay too much time to recover.


When a fighter is being held up by ropes and his hands completely down and mouth wide open and your eyes rolled in the back of your head and you have a strong puncher still throwing punches in your face and you have no defense, that is out on your feet.

Castillo isnt a Trinidad or a DLH, he isnt even a great fighter, Diego didnt wigggle his way out of a 3rd Casamayor fight, infact Castillo stold their third fight with a robbery when they fought.


JL Castillo is not a great fighter? What he has accomplished in the past year or two is great! No other top notch fighter has fought the caliber of fighters in such a short period of time as he has...

I don't know what your definition of great is??? JL is pretty goddman good and I would consider him as far as lightweights go um...yes great!

HAs JL ever been completely outclassed in a fight...ya no outclassed so bad that it left you wondering why he was even in the ring....has he? Did Floyd make him look foolish? Has he ever failed to win a round against a man he fought in a 12 rounder?

Maybe JL is most definately great and it is your boy retreato trinidad that is good not great? You have to admit...make sure you admit this...that Tito has been laughed out of the ring twice and it could have, should have been three times...remember when you write me back to say that you admit that Tito has been laughed out of the ring by top level guys...Castillo has not but your right Castillo is not great, he is a piece of ****.

Your a fool for even comparing the two, are you nuts? Castillo has a record over 50, he fought so many bums, and in the last year he desides to fight quailty fighters and all of a sudden he is great, just like Chavez, pad the record, than have two or three real fights, YOUR GREAT, hmm nope, Casamayor outclassed him, and Trinidad never quit in the ring, espacly to a ***** like DLH, even Gatti took his beating like a man.

Assume you get hit with a punch that would put you out, if you hit the floor. Now, you go backwards (as some KOs happen) and hit the ropes, spring forward, and get hit again, causing you to go back into the ropes and repeat a vicious cycle. You can be out and about to fall but be kept up by the ropes or even by punches. It is quite possible to be out on your feet.

The stoppage was not premature but it should've never got to that as Chico had waaaay too much time to recover.

No way. Look at any REAL ko where a fighter is knocked out cold. The legs just collapse once they cease to receive any kind of input from the brain...the fighter falls like a ragdoll.

When your eyes are rolled back and your hands are down while someone's punching your head off, please enlighten me, what the **** do you call that?

Oh quit being so melodramatic. Show me one pic of Castillo where his eyes were rolled back. If he was out he would have collapsed.

This is how boxing became such a ***** sport these days. People like you guys saying a boxer is "out on his feet" when that is medically impossible.

This is how boxing became such a ***** sport these days. People like you guys saying a boxer is "out on his feet" when that is medically impossible.


Benny Paret was out on his feet when Emile Griffith battered him and killed him. the ref should have stopped that much earlier but he let it slide and Griffith just hammered him in the corner. Castillo may have received the same thing had Weeks not stepped in.

Oh quit being so melodramatic. Show me one pic of Castillo where his eyes were rolled back. If he was out he would have collapsed.

Lol What am I your butler? If you didn't see it during the fight and the countelss amount of instant replays, then you should get your eyes checked. It's after Corrales lands his last left hook. If the ref didn't stop the fight, more punches would have landed and he would have eventually collapsed. Forget a 10 count, they would have taken him to the ER. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that.

This is how boxing became such a ***** sport these days. People like you guys saying a boxer is "out on his feet" when that is medically impossible.
Why do I even talk to you?

Lol What am I your butler? If you didn't see it during the fight and the countelss amount of instant replays, then you should get your eyes checked. It's after Corrales lands his last left hook. If the ref didn't stop the fight, more punches would have landed and he would have eventually collapsed. Forget a 10 count, they would have taken him to the ER. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that.
Thank you..

castillo is one person i wouldnt want to fight. i wouldnt even want to spar with him. he'll take your sunday punch and keep coming like it was a slipped jab.

corrales sure he has firepower,but hes easy to daze u know.unlike corrales.

castillo,that guy has something beyond hunger, he has a true passion and love for boxing, ****ing crazy yo.

Your a fool for even comparing the two, are you nuts? Castillo has a record over 50, he fought so many bums, and in the last year he desides to fight quailty fighters and all of a sudden he is great, just like Chavez, pad the record, than have two or three real fights, YOUR GREAT, hmm nope, Casamayor outclassed him, and Trinidad never quit in the ring, espacly to a ***** like DLH, even Gatti took his beating like a man

Your a fool for even comparing the two, are you nuts? Castillo has a record over 50, he fought so many bums, and in the last year he desides to fight quailty fighters and all of a sudden he is great, just like Chavez, pad the record, than have two or three real fights, YOUR GREAT, hmm nope, Casamayor outclassed him, and Trinidad never quit in the ring, espacly to a ***** like DLH, even Gatti took his beating like a man.


your right my wonderful friend I am a bit of a fool but I have always accepted that...your right again Tito never quit, he was simply outclassed and embarrased, see me and you agree-I know we still can be good friends right?

You say that JL has only fought people the last year???? Cmnon I watch boxing, do you really watch boxing or have you gotten into the sport heavily in the last year? that would explain your statement.

Here is a little Jl history...since the year 2000 he has fought 17 fights and yes I watch boxing, your right a lot of them are against tomato cans, but you have overlooked a few quality opponents...

Since 2000 JL fought...

Stevie Johnston twice
Cesar Bezan (at the time was a tough ass fight)
Floyd Jr. twice
Juan Lazcano
Joel Casamayor
Julio Diaz
Diego Corrales

Not too ****in bad, right buddy...oh one more thing pal, Joel Casamyor outclassed JL?????How old are you???? Watch that damn fight again, **** Joel had some very good rounds and controlled the first half of the fight but he took a pretty good beating in the championship rounds...if that is yopur definition of being outclassed I would love to hear your take on what happened with Tito, again give me your take-if JL was outclassed by Joel and won then what would you call Tito's performances...too me they are not comparable and I know if you chill out for a bit you will realize the same god damn thing.

Hey, your a so-so boxing fan who has a hard on for anything puerto rican, which I have no problem with...don't worry about it!

Since 2000 JL fought...

Stevie Johnston twice
Cesar Bezan (at the time was a tough ass fight)- Yawn
Floyd Jr. twice- Lost, both times
Juan Lazcano - Wow, nope
Joel Casamayor - lost
Julio Diaz - wow, nope
Diego Corrales - lost

You forgot Derrick Parks 14-1-2, he was pretty good too
(W/TKO 2) :rolleyes: . Before all that he was TKO'd 4 times, and had only holded a Mexican belt (WTF?).
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=008837

I dont know where people are getting the sense that Corrales can stay on the outside and make it easy for him. Castillo gets inside one way or the other that what he does. He has done it for years, he is no tito. He isnt gonna let a ****ing jab stop him from landing those "I cant walk on my own the next day" body shots. His jab is just as good as Corales', the only way to beat Castillo this time will be to hit and run but we all Diego cant do that. Hopefully this time Castillo comes in fully prepared like Corrales in the first match. By the way this rematch is still a 50/50 chance only this time Castillo is out for revenge.

why are JLC fans sayign he wasnt 100% did i miss something?

You forgot Derrick Parks 14-1-2, he was pretty good too
(W/TKO 2) :rolleyes: . Before all that he was TKO'd 4 times, and had only holded a Mexican belt (WTF?).
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=008837

so he has a face that likes to cut, your right....

why are JLC fans sayign he wasnt 100% did i miss something?
He fought 2 months earlier, that is about 4 or 5 weeks of training. Which isnt enought ime to prepare for someone like Corrales. Corrales trained 11 weeks in preperation for Castillo.
Tens weeks where for for the fight and one for spitting the mouth piece out correctly. :D

He fought 2 months earlier, that is about 4 or 5 weeks of training. Which isnt enought ime to prepare for someone like Corrales. Corrales trained 11 weeks in preperation for Castillo.
Tens weeks where for for the fight and one for spitting the mouth piece out correctly. :D



yes but as i recall i dont beilve i saw him havign ANY trouble what so ever with diaz, and by keepign active i would think that would put him in better shape where as corrales has been off longer and coming off a tougher win.

yes but as i recall i dont beilve i saw him havign ANY trouble what so ever with diaz, and by keepign active i would think that would put him in better shape where as corrales has been off longer and coming off a tougher win.
He fought 2 months earlier, that is about 4 or 5 weeks of training. Which isnt enough time to prepare for someone like Corrales.

yes but he ahd all that trainign before the diaz fight, then an easy fight with him to keep him active, then right backk to training again, he got plenty of time i say

yes but he ahd all that trainign before the diaz fight, then an easy fight with him to keep him active, then right backk to training again, he got plenty of time i say
what makes think the Diaz fight was easy?
If anything Corrales had a n easier time chasing the running man around the ring. Diaz was game and that is why Castillo got the chance to ko him.

I dont know where people are getting the sense that Corrales can stay on the outside and make it easy for him..
Cause as soon as Corrales backed away from Castillo, he KHTFO! He knew that, he went on the inside for show, that why he came back so quick, easy change up.

corrales was getting beat untill he cought him and after that he was off for what 9 months?

Benny Paret was out on his feet when Emile Griffith battered him and killed him. the ref should have stopped that much earlier but he let it slide and Griffith just hammered him in the corner. Castillo may have received the same thing had Weeks not stepped in.

He wasn't out on his feet, he was just ****ed up and unable to defend himself. He wasn't asleep. He died from brain trauma via blunt force.

Lol What am I your butler? If you didn't see it during the fight and the countelss amount of instant replays, then you should get your eyes checked. It's after Corrales lands his last left hook. If the ref didn't stop the fight, more punches would have landed and he would have eventually collapsed. Forget a 10 count, they would have taken him to the ER. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that.

Just like I thought. You can't back up what you claim. Castillo's eyes never rolled back into his head. Just admit you made that up.

The simple fact is, Corrales spit his mouth piece 3 times in the fight and milked the clock after 2 counts when he ate the mat. Let's see if he has the balls to take his MANDATORY rematch or ***** out like RJJ did and vacate.

Castillo gonna **** Corrales up next time around for vengeance.

Just like I thought. You can't back up what you claim. Castillo's eyes never rolled back into his head. Just admit you made that up.

Just watch the instant replay. mannn did you even see the fight?

Best picture I could find. I'd make an .gif but I don't know how. Chcio still punching, Castillo getting pummeled with his hands down.

http://boxinginlasvegas.com/MaryAnn%20Photos/Corrales-Castillo%20050705/Chico%2023.jpg

Awesome, finally we know we'll get it for sure, that is unless Corrales dont want none anymore.

Also the reason for the rematch is not because Castillo is Mexican and he lost... its the way the fight ended, there was a big feeling that had the ref not given Corrales the time to recover Castillo would still be champ.

I hope both guys feel ready and willing. Who knows on fight night one of them could turn out to be not the same fighter he was in their first fight.

His head knocked back, eyes didnt roll back into his skull. I never said he wasn't defending himself, I said he wasn't asleep. When the fight was stopped his eyes were open and he was responding to the ref.

They should let the fighter hit the canvas before stopping the fight. Corrales hit him with 3 or 4 good shots before it was stopped, the ref could have breaked and asked him if he was good to continue or let him take a count.

Corrales wouldnt have even made it past that round if he didnt spit his mouthpiece to stop Castillo from finishing him.

Again that's the best pic I can find. I'm starting to wonder if you even saw the fight. His EYES ROLLED BACK INTO HIS SKULL AFTER THE LAST LEFT HOOK. I SPECIFICALLY watched out for that particular detail to see whether the fight was prematurely stopped or not, and guess what I saw it. Watch it again. Why the **** would I make **** up, I don't even like Corrales.

And no allowing a fighter to hit the canvas before stopping the fight is putting a fighters life in even greater danger. Ever see Cooney-Norton? That **** was ridiculously disturbing. When a fighter is DEFENSELESS, why wait till he goes down before stopping the fight? Why do corners throw in the towel? To SAVE these fighters from further punishment. Again, if Weeks would have waited for Castillo to go down, the latter would have gotten seriously seriously hurt.

Just watch the instant replay. mannn did you even see the fight?

Best picture I could find. I'd make an .gif but I don't know how. Chcio still punching, Castillo getting pummeled with his hands down.

http://boxinginlasvegas.com/MaryAnn%20Photos/Corrales-Castillo%20050705/Chico%2023.jpg
Mooks there is no doubt that castillo was out and the ref stopped it at the right time, but the fact is that the fight shouldnt of gotten to that. They are complaining about the mouth piece scenario, had he not tooken so much time to recoup the fight would of been over. That I know of what Corrales did is not a part of boxing it is a way to work the system and is unfair to Castillo what he did.That is why WBC is calling a rematch and their should be one just on the fact that the fight was so even and it was one of the greatest fights ever. Why do think Barrera and Morrales have gone at it so many times, cause they are fights real fight fans want to see. I see the Corrales fans complaining that we dont need a rematch,Why? you think Corrales got lucky?

Yo BB, I was merely arguing the fact that it wasn't a premature stoppage. I don't know what would have been a fitting penalty other than the point being taken off. DQ? **** that would have been a foul way of ending a great fight. Chico used his head, dirty tactics and it worked. Do I condone it? No. Do I think he got lucky? Yeah somewhat. Caught Castillo with a left hook and hurt the guy when JLC thought he was finished. By the way, I'm picking Castillo to knock him out in a rematch. And a rematch is well deserved by Castillo. There SHOULD be one.

Again that's the best pic I can find. I'm starting to wonder if you even saw the fight. His EYES ROLLED BACK INTO HIS SKULL AFTER THE LAST LEFT HOOK. I SPECIFICALLY watched out for that particular detail to see whether the fight was prematurely stopped or not, and guess what I saw it. Watch it again. Why the **** would I make **** up, I don't even like Corrales.

And no allowing a fighter to hit the canvas before stopping the fight is putting a fighters life in even greater danger. Ever see Cooney-Norton? That **** was ridiculously disturbing. When a fighter is DEFENSELESS, why wait till he goes down before stopping the fight? Why do corners throw in the towel? To SAVE these fighters from further punishment. Again, if Weeks would have waited for Castillo to go down, the latter would have gotten seriously seriously hurt.


This post is right on. Pretender you're wrong. It was a correct stoppage. If it was anyones fault it was Castillo's for not going down. If he was only "****ed up" as you said he was then he would have been fighting back, defending himself, or taking a count. If you are conscious then you can defend yourself, he was definitely not conscious when he was being rocked like that, or at least not conscious in a sense.

Yo BB, I was merely arguing the fact that it wasn't a premature stoppage. I don't know what would have been a fitting penalty other than the point being taken off. DQ? **** that would have been a foul way of ending a great fight. Chico used his head, dirty tactics and it worked. Do I condone it? No. Do I think he got lucky? Yeah somewhat. Caught Castillo with a left hook and hurt the guy when JLC thought he was finished. By the way, I'm picking Castillo to knock him out in a rematch. And a rematch is well deserved by Castillo. There SHOULD be one.
thankyou is that not what im saying.

I agree 100%, their is allways a problem. Mexicans cant seem to deal with defeat like everyone esle.
At least they don't retire after every defeat like little *******

Rgw WBC are haters, they want to kill Corrales, he should say **** it, box on the outside, and win easily on points.

Exactly,corrales did far better on the outside anyways,but he wanted to fight castillos fight,he fought the hard way that match.This is ****ed up though as much excitement as there was in the fight, I AM NOT lokking forward to seeing either of these guys come out of that ring ****ing dying,this is BS.You guys should respect these fighters for what they gave and not want to see them go thru that **** again man.

And what does any of your mumbling have to do with the stoppage?
Castillo was out on his feet and was not defending himself as Corrales was pounding on him.

Good Stoppage!
The Pretender..

Looks like everyone agrees, but you!

Out on his feet? You nuthuggers always say that **** which is a MYTH. Show me how its possible to be unconcious on your feet. Your stupidity is once again displayed. Let's list the attributes that might contribute to being considered "out on your feet":



Eyes rolled back in head
Hands down, leaving you defenseless
Hard hitting opponent connecting at will
body slack and slumping aginst the ropes
The only way that the ref could have possibly given Castillo an 8 count was to have considered that the ropes were the only thing holding him up. I wouldn't have disagreed with that ruling had the ref made that judgement call any more than I disagree with the stoppage. Castillo was being brutalized, the ref had a split second to make a decision. He erred on the side of caution.

I guess, though, we can't expect too much from a man who proudly displays an avatar that has the 2 worst people ever to hold their respective positions.

As for the rematch, what is the time frame? I honestly don't think the fight should happen before November if it does happen. If it did, I would pay to see it, though I think that Corrales would definitely stay on the outside this time.
I lost a lot of respect for Castillo in his decision to go the ***** route in getting his belt back. He has acted like a spoiled child in his inability to accept defeat. Granted, Corrales may have purposely spit out his mouthpiece, but the point deduction was within the rules of the match, as was the stoppage.

I agree 100%, their is allways a problem. Mexicans cant seem to deal with defeat like everyone esle.
I agree completely.

For some reason Mexicans don't know how to take their defeats.
I mean, they always come back. Their ridiculous pride drives them to train harder and come back stronger to avenge those defeats.
I mean...don't they know that it's just better to announce their retirement everytime they lose.
Oh well! I guess they'll never learn, it's like they got too much heart or something. Fools...

The issue here is not whether the ref should've gave Castillo a standing 8 count. The issue is that Corrales made a *****-move in spitting out his mouthpiece several times in order to get additional time. If he hadn't done that, he most likely woudld've been KO'ed. Those extra seconds gave him enough time to recover which in my opinion isn't fair. The ref should've let Corrales continue without the mouthpiece so Castillo could knock all the teeth out his mouth. The WBC made the right decision.

I agree completely.

For some reason Mexicans don't know how to take their defeats.
I mean, they always come back. Their ridiculous pride drives them to train harder and come back stronger to avenge those defeats.
I mean...don't they know that it's just better to announce their retirement everytime they lose.
Oh well! I guess they'll never learn, it's like they got too much heart or something. Fools...
lmao......this **** is to funny... :D

Even though I think these two shouldn't fight till next year, I'm glad that we'll eventually see if the 2nd fight can live up to the 1st. I'm taking Chico again this time by earlier stoppage. His power is the equalizer & will discourage Castillo from barreling in like he always does. Chico has the fire power to keep Castillo off him. I'd also give a psychological advantage to Chico because JLC thought he'd be able to walk through Chico's power; now that he knows he can be seriously hurt by him I expect him to be a little hesitant this time around.

This thread is the only place where I've read that the WBC has ordered a rematch. None of the boxing news sites have mentioned anything about this having been decided on, only that the WBC is investigating.
When stuff like this posted as fact, a link should be provided to back it up.

I agree completely.

For some reason Mexicans don't know how to take their defeats.
I mean, they always come back. Their ridiculous pride drives them to train harder and come back stronger to avenge those defeats.
I mean...don't they know that it's just better to announce their retirement everytime they lose.
Oh well! I guess they'll never learn, it's like they got too much heart or something. Fools...


Damn Buffalo that is good, I wish I could have come up with that rhetoric, Hey "I watch boxing" ...what buffalo just said...you no me Im too stupid to think of tight **** like that to say but at least I know tight **** when I see it and hey "I watch boxing" that was pretty ****ing tight.

This is how boxing became such a ***** sport these days. People like you guys saying a boxer is "out on his feet" when that is medically impossible.


Did your ruiz-loving ass watch the fight?? How the f*ck could you say JLC was not out on his feet you idiot...Did you see JLC complain after the fight? NO...he just sat there quietly knowing he got the **** beat out of...now of course he is a great champion and great champions won't let a loss like that slide. That is why he wants a rematch when he clearly knows he was being punched out like a rag doll for the last seconds of the fight.

Damn Buffalo that is good, I wish I could have come up with that rhetoric, Hey "I watch boxing" ...what buffalo just said...you no me Im too stupid to think of tight **** like that to say but at least I know tight **** when I see it and hey "I watch boxing" that was pretty ****ing tight.




That IWatchBoxing kid needs a good ***** slap. Not only is he a Tito nuthugger but he is just as dumb as Tito.. Based on Camacho and Cheato Triniwrap I'd say Puerto Rican fighters don't take defeat well!! Everyone knows Mexicans are warriors..

Why does everyone say they dont want to put these two guys through another fight..with each other..saying their first fight was brutal. Well true..but i mean if i remember the Gatti-Ward first fight was grueling. But they fought 3 times in a span of just over a year. Just give Castillo a rematch immediately..he deserves..especially with the match being so hotly disputed

I am sorry for the sick people who want to see one of the two fighters killed in the next fight for saying this but,

t h e r e w i l l b e N O R E M a t c h :)

Why does everyone say they dont want to put these two guys through another fight..with each other..saying their first fight was brutal. Well true..but i mean if i remember the Gatti-Ward first fight was grueling. But they fought 3 times in a span of just over a year. Just give Castillo a rematch immediately..he deserves..especially with the match being so hotly disputed

I think it's said because Gatti & Ward aren't the hardest punchers in their division like Chico & JLC are. Chico & JLC are stubborn warriors who'll die in the ring if they have to in order to win. Nobody wants to see either of them hurt, especially in they're rushed into a rematch quickly. Look at MAB vs. EM, they spaced their wars out over a few years because those are the type of fights that can shorten a boxers career.

If they fight a rematch, the Nevada Athletic Commission should require both them wear them helmets on! LOL!

I think it's said because Gatti & Ward aren't the hardest punchers in their division like Chico & JLC are. Chico & JLC are stubborn warriors who'll die in the ring if they have to in order to win. Nobody wants to see either of them hurt, especially in they're rushed into a rematch quickly. Look at MAB vs. EM, they spaced their wars out over a few years because those are the type of fights that can shorten a boxers career.

Well..okay..space it a bit..ill give Corrales a fight before the rematch with Castillo. But bottomline is..he deserves a rematch. If Corrales didnt spit out his mouthpiece..however many times he did..i wouldnt..be so hard pressed to plead for a rematch for Castillo. I just thought he was jilted a bit..but the actions of Corrales

I agree that we should not rush these two unbelievable animals into the ring too soon but to hear some say they don't want to see a rematch really confuses me, it ****ing puzzles me.

It is not like we the cult fans of this sport get too see great action all of the time, hell sometimes we will go months and months watching fight after fight go by with nothing but overhyped dissappointments.

Now we have arguably the best fight ever and for most of us the best fight we have ever seen and we don't want to see it again?

We would rather overpay for a Morales vs. Corrales mismatch? We would rather give Oscar our money and see if he can't outbox some guy, **** we just gave Felix $50 a pop and look what happended we got ****ed!

We get ****ed alot and when something so great as this war between Chico and JL comes along you realize why you get so pumped up for every fight because you never no when you are going to see a classic...well we saw a classic and for my money it was better than Gatti v. Ward...hell I will take some **** for this but it was a lot better than Gatti v. Ward, sorry at the time of Gatti v. Ward we watched a couple of fringe contenders, a few saturdays ago we watch too of boxing's elite!

And to think that some don't want to see this fight again? I don't want to see either man get seriously hurt but I do want to know who is the better man. My hunch is that Chico took the worse beating and will unlikely be able to duplicate that same pounding again. I think JL can take a beating and it just does not faze him...in a way he is not human...but I could be dead damn wrong which is why I want to see it again...

Give them there well deserved rest, Corrales is not going to be ready for at least 5 or 6 months, so heal up and we will do this again in 6-9 months...

This fight has too be done again because no matter who thinks who is the better man...the truth is we all still don't know, I have never seen a fight end in a KO and score it a draw...do it again, sit back enjoy it and hope that no one sustains permanent damage...but that is all you can do because these guys are fighters and I will be damned if I am going to disrespect the two best lightweights in the world by saying I dont want them to hurt each other.

Do it again, anyting else is ****ing ridiculous...oh and by the way if a year goes by and then maybe two go by and one man has refused a rematch while the other is crying out for one...well we will all know who the best lightweight in the world is then and we won't need to see them fight, but until then rematch, rematch, mother****ing remtach!

I agree that we should not rush these two unbelievable animals into the ring too soon but to hear some say they don't want to see a rematch really confuses me, it ****ing puzzles me.

It is not like we the cult fans of this sport get too see great action all of the time, hell sometimes we will go months and months watching fight after fight go by with nothing but overhyped dissappointments.

Now we have arguably the best fight ever and for most of us the best fight we have ever seen and we don't want to see it again?

We would rather overpay for a Morales vs. Corrales mismatch? We would rather give Oscar our money and see if he can't outbox some guy, **** we just gave Felix $50 a pop and look what happended we got ****ed!

We get ****ed alot and when something so great as this war between Chico and JL comes along you realize why you get so pumped up for every fight because you never no when you are going to see a classic...well we saw a classic and for my money it was better than Gatti v. Ward...hell I will take some **** for this but it was a lot better than Gatti v. Ward, sorry at the time of Gatti v. Ward we watched a couple of fringe contenders, a few saturdays ago we watch too of boxing's elite!

And to think that some don't want to see this fight again? I don't want to see either man get seriously hurt but I do want to know who is the better man. My hunch is that Chico took the worse beating and will unlikely be able to duplicate that same pounding again. I think JL can take a beating and it just does not faze him...in a way he is not human...but I could be dead damn wrong which is why I want to see it again...

Give them there well deserved rest, Corrales is not going to be ready for at least 5 or 6 months, so heal up and we will do this again in 6-9 months...

This fight has too be done again because no matter who thinks who is the better man...the truth is we all still don't know, I have never seen a fight end in a KO and score it a draw...do it again, sit back enjoy it and hope that no one sustains permanent damage...but that is all you can do because these guys are fighters and I will be damned if I am going to disrespect the two best lightweights in the world by saying I dont want them to hurt each other.

Do it again, anyting else is ****ing ridiculous...oh and by the way if a year goes by and then maybe two go by and one man has refused a rematch while the other is crying out for one...well we will all know who the best lightweight in the world is then and we won't need to see them fight.


ya, right on homie. You got them points on locked bein one that we gotta see these two warriors go at it again nah mean? There should be no dispute ova this shiznite if you get where I comin from ight? Castillo deserve his rematch and not to discredit Corrales' amazin win ova that doo, he shoud give him what's his nah mean?

definitely wanna see a rematch, dont matta when, dont matta where, dont matta if I gotta pay to view it. Bring it, deliver, we got a classic here. We've got anotha Gatti vs Ward, or barrera vs Morales trilogy on the works and we as fans should be happy, get my drift? Ight koo. Koo. Koo!

ya, right on homie. You got them points on locked bein one that we gotta see these two warriors go at it again nah mean? There should be no dispute ova this shiznite if you get where I comin from ight? Castillo deserve his rematch and not to discredit Corrales' amazin win ova that doo, he shoud give him what's his nah mean?

definitely wanna see a rematch, dont matta when, dont matta where, dont matta if I gotta pay to view it. Bring it, deliver, we got a classic here. We've got anotha Gatti vs Ward, or barrera vs Morales trilogy on the works and we as fans should be happy, get my drift? Ight koo. Koo. Koo!

Ya no, I like your style dude...

Ya no, I like your style dude...

ight im feelin the love up in this shiznite joint dig it? I gotta give you whatcha ma call them....ummm ya, them positive karma. ight ima hook you up cuz you a homeboy. Keep them rims spinnin, ya heard?

Ya no, I like your style dude...

Dude: I like your style too, you got that whole cowboy thing going on...

Stranger: Thank ye. But I just one question, do you have to be 'cussing all the time?

Dude: What the **** are you talking about?

Stranger: Fine, have yer way Dude...

The Best News Ever...a Rematch...i Give It Castillo By Tko In Rd 6...corrales Is A Complete Coward ....casamayor Gave Him A Rematch After The Ring Doctor Stop Their Fight And Now Corrales Like The Coward He Is Will Avoid Castillo At All Cost...the Rematch Will Never Happen.,..i Hope Castillo Gets His Belt Back And Fights The Winner Of Tyzhu And Hatton...let Corrales Finish His Career Running.....

Dude: I like your style too, you got that whole cowboy thing going on...

Stranger: Thank ye. But I just one question, do you have to be 'cussing all the time?

Dude: What the **** are you talking about?

Stranger: Fine, have yer way Dude...


Take er easy dude...I know you will.

corrales will refuse it and he's gonna walk away with the win :boxing:

This thread is the only place where I've read that the WBC has ordered a rematch. None of the boxing news sites have mentioned anything about this having been decided on, only that the WBC is investigating.
When stuff like this posted as fact, a link should be provided to back it up.
I know it's in Spanish, but here is where I got the info from: http://www.primerahora.com/noticia.asp?guid=0828F7445C934628A8108AEF429009CD