Cage-Grand Ol Party Crash
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JQX68UGUI5IG0JKFV7B93P5PQ

Cage-Peeranoia
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CDCSZ2SDT2ZB28YA1RENR0K2Y

Cage-Perfect World(this **** is crazy!)
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2P2DE7LWJLBA8366ENIKC96BXO

Cage-The Death of Chris Palko
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1904VYP2U4IWB1JWI09BNHK538

Any of you ****ers peep this ****?

Im going to... it was late last night. That pharell song is the joint now. i thought i saw him perform it with nelly a week or two ago.

Im going to... it was late last night. That pharell song is the joint now. i thought i saw him perform it with nelly a week or two ago.


That Cage album is one of the best underground hip hop albums I've ever heard.

Cage>90% of the mainstream hip hop scene.

yeah i only heard to songs by him and dude is pretty good

he looks like he would do punk music. maybe i got wrong pic of him and somebody else.

yeah, he's an odd looking white dude.

cage-perfect world has a good beat

it could be mainstream too you know. he could sell millions i think.

cage-perfect world has a good beat

it could be mainstream too you know. he could sell millions i think.


All due respect to Kanye, this(Hell's Winter) is the best produced album of the year. That DJ Shadow beat is IN-****ING-SANE. It's only 9.99 this week, I bought a copy for myself and one of my friends.

true hip hop fanatics look out for one another... thats good you bought friends an album.

it frustrates me when artists arent mainstream for whatever reason and people sleep on them.

theres this singer named res (r&b) but mixes a lot of rock in her music. shes pretty good but she doesnt fit into any one category so she didnt sell. a lot of rappers are like dis.

Res is straight.

i got res album and it was pretty good. also like princes last album dont know if it sold.

res' body is banging. ever see they say vision video?

i got res album and it was pretty good. also like princes last album dont know if it sold.

res' body is banging. ever see they say vision video?


Prince is a hustler, when he went on tour for his last album, he gave everyone a copy and included it in the ticket price. Easily went platinum.

most of def jux>Cage
in my opinion

Their production is always on point though. RJD2 is my favorite new producer, and El-P comes out with a lot decent material too

i heard some of the hell's winter songs have dj shadow production. i think hes kind of overrated, but he always drops a gem or two.

most of def jux>Cage
in my opinion

Their production is always on point though. RJD2 is my favorite new producer, and El-P comes out with a lot decent material too

i heard some of the hell's winter songs have dj shadow production. i think hes kind of overrated, but he always drops a gem or two.


DJ Shadow only produces one song. The only MC's better than Cage, on Def Jux, are Murs, Mr. Lif and C Rayz Walz. However, none of their albums are as good as Hell's Winter, I've never really dug Cage's music, but this album is ridiculous. Def jux has a strong label, El-P needs to stick to the beats, I can't remember him every saying a dope rhyme.

"signed to rawkus/ id rather be mouth****ed my nazis unconscious"
not the best rhyme, but deep space 9mm in the best El-p song.

i havent heard a full c-rayz walz album, but i like his verses.
if youre into beat only albums, el-p and rjd2 have a couple good ones.

but the best emcee on def jux is aesop rock, whose material is 10x better than cage (i do like the new album tho). labor days is a great lp.

also, canibal ox's cold vein is the best hiphop album ever made by def jux.

i think mr. lif's i phantom, the early rob sonic stuff (when he was with sonic sum and i guess not on def jux), and the early company flow albums were all better than hell's winter

i just went to the def jux website. cage's bio is pretty crazy; his life is almost as messed up as R.A. the Rugged Man's (one of the best emcees all time)

whats def jux site?

www.definitivejux.net

thanks bro

damn i miss a lot of **** in two days. but yah that Res album is dope. anyone hear the ice king remix with Nas? that **** is nice. i'm not really big on that new Pharrell joint, but that's just me. and whose heard that new Nas and Lauryn Hill track?

is that new Q-Tip joint out yet? i didn't like his first solo attempt, but supposedly he's using a live band IIRC. too bad that Tribe reunion album didn't work out.

speaking of underground, anybody got some stonethrow love besides MFDOOM? i'm just down with anybody who can call themself PeanutButter Wolf.

nah i didnt hear ice king remix but i liked the original song. gonna download that now.

whats the nas and lauryn hill song called?

i like the lauryn hill and john legend so high remix.

i miss lauryn.

peanutbutter wolf is a wierd dude, but he is a true turnatablist and hes worked with a lot of great talent.

im a big fan of zeb love x like a lot of dudes here, but from stones throw i like medafor and oh no. i also like a lot of madlib beats, j. dilla has some decent talent too.

was quasimoto on stones throw? he was kind of a wierd dude too, but he made some good songs.

all those people are a little foreign to me.

some tracks from all the dudes i just mentioned - stonesthrow.zip (http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X3CLB0P055M22Y8PDB3VRCS5Y)

i threw "gas face" by 3rd base and zeb just cause its a classic, but if anybody has the original kmd album, would they mind posting it?

in case any one was gonna point it out: i know quasimoto is madlib, so i guess he probably was on stones throw. dont know what i was thinking.

i dont know if anybody heard this before, but i just heard it for the first time. its an interview with the founder of hiphop Kool Herc. the interview lady is kind of annoying, but its still a must hear for anyone whos into learning about the true roots of hiphop.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4567450

i heard that........

am i the only one that things its funny as hell that missy things she looks good now?

am i the only one that things its funny as hell that missy things she looks good now?

Yepp, how does she get nominated each time for the VMA's and wins? I wonder who she banged at MTV. Her music is obviously not even nominated calibur.

exactly. MTV loves that ugly *****. Shes still ugly even though she lost weight. She looks like a donkey.

I liked Lose Control. **** was bangin out at the clubs, but yeah she ain't cute.

some tracks from all the dudes i just mentioned - stonesthrow.zip (http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2X3CLB0P055M22Y8PDB3VRCS5Y)

i threw "gas face" by 3rd base and zeb just cause its a classic, but if anybody has the original kmd album, would they mind posting it?

in case any one was gonna point it out: i know quasimoto is madlib, so i guess he probably was on stones throw. dont know what i was thinking.


I got both KMD albums. MF DOOM is a beast on the mic.

peanutbutter wolf is a wierd dude, but he is a true turnatablist and hes worked with a lot of great talent.

im a big fan of zeb love x like a lot of dudes here, but from stones throw i like medafor and oh no. i also like a lot of madlib beats, j. dilla has some decent talent too.

was quasimoto on stones throw? he was kind of a wierd dude too, but he made some good songs.


Quasimoto=Madlib with a voice mod.

not at all! i hate when she said slim waist, cute face on "loose control"

then when she first started losing weight, she said something about fat women.

horsen looking *****.
I liked Lose Control. **** was bangin out at the clubs, but yeah she ain't cute.

I got both KMD albums. MF DOOM is a beast on the mic.
would you mind uploading that? i dont got much points, but i can give karma or i might have some album you're looking for.

would you mind uploading that? i dont got much points, but i can give karma or i might have some album you're looking for.


Remind me next week, i'll do it.

My hip hop bros on this site, please give me a donation. I need it. ***** Wlad cheated this night.

Peter, my brother, keep your head up.


Please give me a donation! Thank you.

My hip hop bros on this site, please give me a donation. I need it. ***** Wlad cheated this night.

Peter, my brother, keep your head up.


Please give me a donation! Thank you.


PAAAAAAAAAY MEEEEEE. Wlad held a lot, Peter rabbit punched a lot. It is what it is.

Godzhand, Im paying out tomorrow. I wanna collect some interest before I pay. You'll get paid tomorrow. Remember I owe Tino a lot.

OldGringo, SirJose, The Fix---help a brotha out.

Pace

Godzhand, Im paying out tomorrow. I wanna collect some interest before I pay. You'll get paid tomorrow. Remember I owe Tino a lot.

OldGringo, SirJose, The Fix---help a brotha out.

Pace


I'll be expecting my 15 million points sometime tomorrow homie.

nah i didnt hear ice king remix but i liked the original song. gonna download that now.

whats the nas and lauryn hill song called?

i like the lauryn hill and john legend so high remix.

i miss lauryn.


that nas and lauryn joint is called "it wasn't you." i haven't found a clean copy, clean meaning that DJ Clue isn't screaming over it.

lemme know if you can't find that Res joint, i'm sure you have tho.

DJ Clue ruins ****. DJ Whoo Kid is the worst. Ive had to stop downloads just because of Whoo Kid yelling.

DJ Kay Slay is bad too with all that cursing.

http://sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=7582

beanie isnt playin around, **** this dude has major street connecs. the witness is shook

I ****ing hate snitches. I hate kim but Cease shouldnt have snitched.
http://sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=7582

beanie isnt playin around, **** this dude has major street connecs. the witness is shook

Hell's Winter=possibly one of the greatest hip hop albums I've ever heard, IMHO, of course.

http://sohh.com/thewire/read.php?contentID=7582

beanie isnt playin around, **** this dude has major street connecs. the witness is shook


beans gave him 2 choices....lie or get mercd

Hip Hop today sucks, everything is almost all too commercialized, it is Hip Pop. My respect goes to the old school rappers and todays underground and **** reggayton. That **** is femine ass garbage

I really hate reggaeton because their voices sounds gay and its not original at all. Its just working off that club scene junk. I dont go clubbin in Miami so I dont like that ****.

Can any of you hip hop heads guess which New York lyricist (under rated might I add) took this and what song?

http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=21KI9HS0LY71X13FYQ6LFEVT43

I really hate reggaeton because their voices sounds gay and its not original at all. Its just working off that club scene junk. I dont go clubbin in Miami so I dont like that ****.
Many people that listen to reggaeton and new shool rap listen to ass shaking femine club songs, they dress with pink shirts and overdress, I hate that ****, Look at people that claimed they were gangsters(Never) like Snoop, talking about gang bangin to sporting mink with a pink shirt, many rappers are straight up gay like that

It just really bothers me that reggaeton doesnt have an ounce of originality and now some are coming it as a "new" music genre thats here to stay.

Those foos you talk about are the same ones who think Eminem started rap.

Nothing infuriates me more.

It just really bothers me that reggaeton doesnt have an ounce of originality and now some are coming it as a "new" music genre thats here to stay.

Those foos you talk about are the same ones who think Eminem started rap.

Nothing infuriates me more.
Raggaeton will top hip hop but it will take time, kids are being raised as girls today, Reggaeton is all over the radio , MtV , and everywhere, i hate that but it will come, Rap wont be dead, but it will never be the same, how many great rappers have been out in the past 5 years, think of it, most rappers are singing or doing reggaeton or are one hit wonders

**** that ****ing scared me. I thought Reggaeton was going to die within this fiscal year. I really hate that ****. I see Daddy Yankee and hes biting hip hop clothing and hes acting like hes a music pioneer. Hes biting hip hop in the worst way and presenting himself as some sort of originator.

If your scenario happens, I will jump off a bridge.

**** that ****ing scared me. I thought Reggaeton was going to die within this fiscal year. I really hate that ****. I see Daddy Yankee and hes biting hip hop clothing and hes acting like hes a music pioneer. Hes biting hip hop in the worst way and presenting himself as some sort of originator.

If your scenario happens, I will jump off a bridge.
Trust me, im realistic in life, I hate reggaeton but reggaeton is whats slowry taking over the music industry, soon my unborn kids will be dancing to gasolina, Hip Hop is tring to get club freindly, Outkast have club songs, Black Eyed Peas now have a commercial girl singer, Think of it this way, how many great old school rappers are are still around and how rappers are that were decent are still releasing real good music, I listen to rock now cause hip hop is basically garbage.(Old rock or old school rap is better than any new hip pop music put out today) All decent rappers are becoming actors instead of rapping.

Yeah a lot of old school rappers went into acting. I guess the sales persuade Cube to do so. But a lot that arent selling and are relatively new are doing the same:Mya, Eve, Lil Kim, Bow Wow.

Dont get me started on the Black Eyed Peas. I hate them more than anybody Ive never met. They are the definition of a sellout. Now they got that girl with no ass in their group singing so theyre selling.

**** reggaeton. I dont know if reggaeton is worst than the "new" rap fans that think Eminem made rap what it is(This is textbook EXIG3). Bull****. Eminem, I wish death upon him. I truly do. He's such an opportunist. Why do you think hes producing Tupac albums and biting him heavily? Street cred. I will never forgive eminem for using the "N word" and then saying it was because of a girlfriend. I also hate the fact that he has this hatred for his mother. Its obvious his mother is not stable. You dont need to talk about killing her and sue her when you know she doesnt have much money. And you dont need to talk about killing your baby's mama. Most rap artists dont mention the people they "kill" by name but Em does. This is straight bull****.

He's hurting rap too. D12. Them *****es sold out rap and there is no one way that one black puppet (Bizarre) in D12 with the shower cap would ever try to launch a rap career with that as his image. He knows with Eminem they need a gimmick and strange is their gimmick. I've never seen a rap video like "Purple Pills".

I dont fault Outkast, they still rap the same as they did 10 years ago. They didnt switch up their flow. I just noticed Andre has gotten weird since the album with the "Rosa Parks" song. I got that album but the titles escaping me.

The thing is Ricans know whats up with rap and they're doing this reggaeton. They should stop this ****. Daddy Yankee is platinum and has been nominated for album of the year (forgot which category).

Like you, I am slowly leaving rap. I love and always loved R&B (Isley Brothers, Earth Wind and Fire, Donnie Hathaway). Im starting to like rock (Linkin Park, Green Day) and Maroon 5 before it became fashionable for rap artists to future Brian Levine from Maroon 5 (Ying Yang and Kanye among others).

A quick example of a sellout song by Outkast is Hey Ya, Listen to it, It is talking about shaking your ass and it is a club song

Ya but I think that **** on Hey Ya started with Andre from the album with "Rosa Parks". That album was really weird to say the least but it worked. You could tell he was smoking some weed with that album. I think thats probably why Andre and Big Boi decided to do two seperate albums.

You also have to remember the album befoe "The Love Below" sold well too. I dont think Andre did it for record sells.

Like you, I am slowly leaving rap. I love and always loved R&B (Isley Brothers, Earth Wind and Fire, Donnie Hathaway). Im starting to like rock (Linkin Park, Green Day) and Maroon 5 before it became fashionable for rap artists to future Brian Levine from Maroon 5 (Ying Yang and Kanye among others).
Will you leave the old school rappers which were good, I cant leave that,


I love the old school, but even the unreleased music by Pac is being disgraced by Afeni, she edits it, she adds new schoolers to guest rap, she puts in beats that do not belong with Pacs lyrics or with Pacs style, For example Still Ballin featuring Trick Daddy, Trick did not even know Pac and their styles are complete opposites.

Shes messing it up. Pac would have never worked with Eminem (he was semi-anti white).

Then she got Nas on a Pac song. Pac hated Nas.

Still Ballin used the same sample J Lo used for the remix of the song with Fat Joe.

The mom doesnt know rap but somebody has to tell her shes doin it all wrong.

Once I leave rap, Im done. For good.

Jayz and Russell Simmons are too busy having "hip hop forums" discussing minority voting and other topics they really cant influence.

It would be more beneficial if they gave back to the "hood" they ridicule in their music. Rap is just bull**** and on my iPod I have 127 songs. I would say 10 are rap. And the rest are r&B and some rock.

Jeru The Damaja f/Afu-Ra-Mental Stamina

http://s54.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0HND6P7CRWGFU1GW2EHW59MX11

what rap needs is to fade away from mainstream, i want music from artists that do it for the love of the music, not those sellout ****s.

btw ive changed my choice for album of the year, i never gave it that much thought but as of right now one be lo's sonogram is my choice.

bow wow needs to go..... eve (works with only the hot producers, switches to acting when career is stale)..... black eyed peas need to disappear. no more eminem and im happy. no more 50 and im ecstatic.
what rap needs is to fade away from mainstream, i want music from artists that do it for the love of the music, not those sellout ****s.

bow wow needs to go..... eve (works with only the hot producers, switches to acting when career is stale)..... black eyed peas need to disappear. no more eminem and im happy. no more 50 and im ecstatic.
i dont listen to them anyway so i cant be bothered with that.

btw i cant wait for ghosts new joint fishscale, i know its going to crazy

I read on Sohh.com that Ghosts album is gonna be a classic.

I will decide for myself cause The Source just gave Kim's album a perfect rating.....

I kinda lost respect for Ghost when he did that song with missy. "Push". It was the number one said in Tel Aviv for a month.

I kinda lost respect for Ghost when he did that song with missy. "Push". It was the number one said in Tel Aviv for a month.
why? push was a crappy song but i wont hold that agianst ghost for that.


holla and biscuits make up for that 10x's over

was it him that had that song with carl thomas or raekwon?

also who did the C.R.E.A.M.

was it him that had that song with carl thomas or raekwon?

also who did the C.R.E.A.M.
wu tang did cream as a group on the legendary 36 chambers.

im not big into r&b so im not to familiar with the carl thomas's voice.

they featured carl thomas. one of them. i think in remember raekwon rapping in the video. looks like the get money video by junior mafia.

oh **** i just searched that and i had no idea carl thomaas was on never be the same again, thats one of my fav songs from ghost and rae

who here has heard of the wu-tang meets indie culture album? that **** will be insane. whoever thought of teaming J-Live and R.A. the Rugged Man is crazy and deserves some money.

and to add to the discussion of today's hip hop state and the artists involved, for the artists, this is their job. i don't care who says that they do it for the love of the music, they need to make a living. for anyone who loves what they do, the bonus they get is that they make money. some artists don't even love what they do, they just have skill and are recognized. so for those who are selling out, they know what they have to do to make money, and while it might be an excessive amount of money, they're doin what they have to, to live up to social expectations and to make a living. sucks huh?

and today's state of hip hop? **** it. with Jay-Z trying to start up Def Jam Left (wtf is with the label name?), suburban kids trying to emulate the local radio gangster who hasn't been a gangster in years, and Mannie Fresh leaving Ca$h Money (dude that guy is golden!) i could care less. at least i got David Banner giving the west coast props. i need royce the 5'9" and Ras Kass to go platinum. people want thugs and club bangers. combine them and you got at least 40 million easy. the hip hop crowd needs to watch CB-4 again.

didnt know he did that? it wasnt too bad a song.
oh **** i just searched that and i had no idea carl thomaas was on never be the same again, thats one of my fav songs from ghost and rae

Thank you.... if I wasnt on the verge of bankrupty, Id give you 5 mil. Remind me in two weeks.
who here has heard of the wu-tang meets indie culture album? that **** will be insane. whoever thought of teaming J-Live and R.A. the Rugged Man is crazy and deserves some money.

and to add to the discussion of today's hip hop state and the artists involved, for the artists, this is their job. i don't care who says that they do it for the love of the music, they need to make a living. for anyone who loves what they do, the bonus they get is that they make money. some artists don't even love what they do, they just have skill and are recognized. so for those who are selling out, they know what they have to do to make money, and while it might be an excessive amount of money, they're doin what they have to, to live up to social expectations and to make a living. sucks huh?

and today's state of hip hop? **** it. with Jay-Z trying to start up Def Jam Left (wtf is with the label name?), suburban kids trying to emulate the local radio gangster who hasn't been a gangster in years, and Mannie Fresh leaving Ca$h Money (dude that guy is golden!) i could care less. at least i got David Banner giving the west coast props. i need royce the 5'9" and Ras Kass to go platinum. people want thugs and club bangers. combine them and you got at least 40 million easy. the hip hop crowd needs to watch CB-4 again.

These suburbanites and foreigners need to know Emineme didnt create rap.

who here has heard of the wu-tang meets indie culture album? that **** will be insane. whoever thought of teaming J-Live and R.A. the Rugged Man is crazy and deserves some money.

and to add to the discussion of today's hip hop state and the artists involved, for the artists, this is their job. i don't care who says that they do it for the love of the music, they need to make a living. for anyone who loves what they do, the bonus they get is that they make money. some artists don't even love what they do, they just have skill and are recognized. so for those who are selling out, they know what they have to do to make money, and while it might be an excessive amount of money, they're doin what they have to, to live up to social expectations and to make a living. sucks huh?

and today's state of hip hop? **** it. with Jay-Z trying to start up Def Jam Left (wtf is with the label name?), suburban kids trying to emulate the local radio gangster who hasn't been a gangster in years, and Mannie Fresh leaving Ca$h Money (dude that guy is golden!) i could care less. at least i got David Banner giving the west coast props. i need royce the 5'9" and Ras Kass to go platinum. people want thugs and club bangers. combine them and you got at least 40 million easy. the hip hop crowd needs to watch CB-4 again.
im not saying that isnt a bonus but id like to see more artists make music for the love of it. not just a lil bit clones on the radio all day long.

i have to agree there...
but you get people like common who says hes making "real" music when a) he only hooks up with whosever hot at the moment (neptunes,macy gray, roots, kanye, lauryn hill) and b) who uses a gimmick of creating a positive message in rap cause hip hop doesnt need more guns---well thanks for insulting rap fans. i doubt most rappers have killed anyone ive known to not believe 90% of rap lyrics.
im not saying that isnt a bonus but id like to see more artists make music for the love of it. not just a lil bit clones on the radio all day long.

Thing is Common has a lot of respect in the game. I just noticed some magazines diss him cause of his lack of charisma. His charisma aint bothering me, cause Nas can get boring too. Its his double talk about creating real music.

if I were Kanye I wouldnt even want to work with Common. I mean they were both making music outta Chicago and Common only thinks of using kanye after he wins the grammy?

Thing is Common has a lot of respect in the game. I just noticed some magazines diss him cause of his lack of charisma. His charisma aint bothering me, cause Nas can get boring too. Its his double talk about creating real music.

if I were Kanye I wouldnt even want to work with Common. I mean they were both making music outta Chicago and Common only thinks of using kanye after he wins the grammy?


You've really got it in for Common, soon I'll make that Common mix, and make you a believer.

Common>Anyone in G-Unit

Hahhahaha.... not better than Lloyd come on now bro...
You've really got it in for Common, soon I'll make that Common mix, and make you a believer.

Common>Anyone in G-Unit

You've really got it in for Common, soon I'll make that Common mix, and make you a believer.

Common>Anyone in G-Unit
Truth..............

last of a dying breed = most gangsta album of all time

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/dre300/e304/e30483d60hw.jpg


classic right here, im been listening to it all morning/afternoon.

Hahhahaha.... not better than Lloyd come on now bro...


I have no choice but to question your knowledge of hip hop, based on the quoted post. :confused:

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/dre300/e304/e30483d60hw.jpg


classic right here, im been listening to it all morning/afternoon.


This album, IMO, and I know it would be disputed, >The Blueprint

Im Listening to the Blue Print now... gotta disagree. Have you heard "U Dont Know" by Jigga?

Im Listening to the Blue Print now... gotta disagree. Have you heard "U Dont Know" by Jigga?


I own his entire catalog, have you heard "Sorry for What?" by Scarface?

Downloading now... I always saw Scarface as a down south artist so didnt pay too much attention. I like his songs my block, smile and im forgetting the song he did with cease.
I own his entire catalog, have you heard "Sorry for What?" by Scarface?

Downloading now... I always saw Scarface as a down south artist so didnt pay too much attention. I like his songs my block, smile and im forgetting the song he did with cease.


Scarface>2pac and B.I.G.

His catalog is unbelievable.

If Biggie lived, Biggie would have been better than him no doubt. And some think hes better anyway with just two albums released under his guidance. Last album "Born Again" featured Biggie.
Scarface>2pac and B.I.G.

His catalog is unbelievable.

If Biggie lived, Biggie would have been better than him no doubt. And some think hes better anyway with just two albums released under his guidance. Last album "Born Again" featured Biggie.


That's an extremely big "if". "If's" can go on all day. Bottom line is, Scarface is top 5 no matter what. You should check that whole Last of A Dying Breed album, we can compare and contrast vs. The Blueprint. It's superior to The Blueprint, like Scarface is superior to Jay-Z.

You think hes better lyrically too?

You think hes better lyrically too?


Of course. Check the lyrics. The only thing Jay has on Scarface is sales, that's it, and this is coming from a true Jay-Z fan.

Im talking about reasonable doubt lyrics, not pop Jay. But im listening to my block now. Dont have that songs lyrics memorized but its pretty good.

I like "never seen a man cry" too by face

Im talking about reasonable doubt lyrics, not pop Jay. But im listening to my block now. Dont have that songs lyrics memorized but its pretty good.

I like "never seen a man cry" too by face


Yes, Scarface is better, listen to Last of a Dying Breed in it's entirety. You'll see.

Yes, Scarface is better, listen to Last of a Dying Breed in it's entirety. You'll see.
Can any up any Scarface cd besides The Fix?

Can any up any Scarface cd besides The Fix?
i can up last of a dying right now, i kept its rar form when i dowloaded just in case someone here wanted it.


btw

scarface > Jay-z

last of a dying > the blueprint


no one imo came harder on an album then face did on thato one. it has a very dark feel to it and face comes with heat.

i can up last of a dying right now, i kept its rar form when i dowloaded just in case someone here wanted it.


btw

scarface > Jay-z

last of a dying > the blueprint


no one imo came harder on an album then face did on thato one. it has a very dark feel to it and face comes with heat.
Yeah man can you up that?

Yeah man can you up that?
iam already in the process, although my comnputer has been the ****s lately and id dont know if it will go thru

The Fix Presents a gangsta rap classic:


http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3CIRWVZVIOVYJ12VD8WDK2EJ8Z


last of a dying breed by Face

The Fix Presents a gangsta rap classic:


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last of a dying breed by Face
Thanks a lot man. If you got any other face.. Ill put **** up for it. Also you know the opening scene from Belly (the movie) whats the name of that song

Scarface is easily one of the top 5 doing it right now.

Scarface is easily one of the top 5 doing it right now.
imo he is top 5 all time, dead or alive

for some reason, everytime I tried downloading that Scarface, the download would cancel on me after a while. I couldn't get it, but no doubt, Scarface is tight.

thats record companies corrupting files so you cant download the music. so you would be "forced" to buy instead. just keep going through the downloads til it work. :)
for some reason, everytime I tried downloading that Scarface, the download would cancel on me after a while. I couldn't get it, but no doubt, Scarface is tight.

imo he is top 5 all time, dead or alive

Indeed. My top 5 of all time are:

1.Rakim
2.KRS-ONE
3.Chuck D
4.LL Cool J
5.Scarface

imo he is top 5 all time, dead or alive

I agree. Face is in my top 2 of all time.

Indeed. My top 5 of all time are:

1.Rakim
2.KRS-ONE
3.Chuck D
4.LL Cool J
5.Scarface
depending on his next album, i am considering moving him up to G.O.A.T status

depending on his next album, i am considering moving him up to G.O.A.T status


If Scarface drops another high quality album, I'm going to send him an email saying thanks for so much DOPE ****! Seriously. Listening to Last of a dying breed again.

If Scarface drops another high quality album, I'm going to send him an email saying thanks for so much DOPE ****! Seriously. Listening to Last of a dying breed again.
he has the greatest discography in rap history

its untouchable, too bad the mainstream seems to have been sleeping on him lately

Christ, I love Face...and the man has been putting it down for upwards of 14 years now, but by no means is he or will he ever be the greatest of all time on the mic.

His ability on the mic PALES in comparison to Rakim. It's not even close. Face has a nice flow and a unique, rugged down south style...but come off it.

Anybody hear David Banner's album yet? Got some nice joints on there, it's worth copping. Good guest spots too.

Anybody hear David Banner's album yet? Got some nice joints on there, it's worth copping. Good guest spots too.


I thought about it, but bought that new Blackalicious instead. Very good album My Pen and Pad is s i c k

He bit Ying Yang on his single with all the girls in the video... lol forgot song title. Its bad when you bite Ying Yang and both beats sound like Neptune knock offs anyways.
Anybody hear David Banner's album yet? Got some nice joints on there, it's worth copping. Good guest spots too.

he has the greatest discography in rap history

its untouchable, too bad the mainstream seems to have been sleeping on him lately

Yeah man, I cant get that download. It doesnt work. But I think Im going to pick that up today, could you up one of his other classics?

Yeah man, I cant get that download. It doesnt work. But I think Im going to pick that up today, could you up one of his other classics?
forreal? damn, im going to try downloading it and see if it works

Christ, I love Face...and the man has been putting it down for upwards of 14 years now, but by no means is he or will he ever be the greatest of all time on the mic.

His ability on the mic PALES in comparison to Rakim. It's not even close. Face has a nice flow and a unique, rugged down south style...but come off it.
album for album no one is touching face and thats a fact. rakim was nice while he was at it but what has he done for me lately? dont get me wrong rakim is on top of my list as well but there has to be a time when someone comes along and knocks him off.

face has all the credentials, 5 mic albums, longevity, impact( helped put the south on the map), consistancy, record sales( has gone plat a few times now) and has been praised by his peers.


i guess im just biased because he is my fav of all time. :o

Anybody hear David Banner's album yet? Got some nice joints on there, it's worth copping. Good guest spots too.
i am probably not going to buy but ill give it a listen

I thought about it, but bought that new Blackalicious instead. Very good album My Pen and Pad is s i c k
Blackalicious = one of the most underrated west coast groups of all time.

The Craft is a strong ablum. i think Chief XCEl was more artistic on Blazing Arrow and NIA, but i kind of like the raw sound in this one.

Still, what the hell is Gift of Gab's music doing in soda commercials?

album for album no one is touching face and thats a fact. rakim was nice while he was at it but what has he done for me lately? dont get me wrong rakim is on top of my list as well but there has to be a time when someone comes along and knocks him off.

face has all the credentials, 5 mic albums, longevity, impact( helped put the south on the map), consistancy, record sales( has gone plat a few times now) and has been praised by his peers.


i guess im just biased because he is my fav of all time. :o


See I don't REALLY believe that the whole great debate comes down to how much work you've put in. I think it's all about how nice you are on the mic, and by that standard, nobody touches Ra...not Face, not Kane, not LL, not KRS, etc

Anybody hear David Banner's album yet? Got some nice joints on there, it's worth copping. Good guest spots too.
What i dont get about Banner's albums is how he can be a conscious, spiritual and intelligent mc with complex and catchy beat schemes one minute (take x-ed or ridin' for instance), and then completely flip and put out shallow, bland, commercial crap (the whisper song, for example) the next.

its like he want to be popular and make money, but his heart wants to go the other direction...

See I don't REALLY believe that the whole great debate comes down to how much work you've put in. I think it's all about how nice you are on the mic, and by that standard, nobody touches Ra...not Face, not Kane, not LL, not KRS, etc
but it HAS to come down to how much work you've put in, if nas stopped after illmatic is he the greatest of all time?

What i dont get about Banner's albums is how he can be a conscious, spiritual and intelligent mc with complex and catchy beat schemes one minute (take x-ed or ridin' for instance), and then completely flip and put out shallow, bland, commercial crap (the whisper song, for example) the next.

its like he want to be popular and make money, but his heart wants to go the other direction...

That's a fair analysis I guess. The thing that makes this album worthwhile for me is that he plays both sides fairly well (with his mainstream side and social commentary side) and he makes use of good guest spots. He has enough raw, trunk thumping tracks that got him his street cred in the south, while doing a handful of good club bangers as well.

The production is up to par too.

but it HAS to come down to how much work you've put in, if nas stopped after illmatic is he the greatest of all time?


I have class ill get back to you later on this.

Is anyone else here a fan of The Game?

Is anyone else here a fan of The Game?
*crickets*



jay is gonna end his career

How is he going to end it? They beefin?

*crickets*



jay is gonna end his career


I think a lot of MC's could end Game's "career".

What i dont get about Banner's albums is how he can be a conscious, spiritual and intelligent mc with complex and catchy beat schemes one minute (take x-ed or ridin' for instance), and then completely flip and put out shallow, bland, commercial crap (the whisper song, for example) the next.

its like he want to be popular and make money, but his heart wants to go the other direction...


that's funny, cause that's the same formula that Pac used. he'd hit you from one side and then come at you with a 180 switch. that's part of the charisma. and it's funny cause people will jock on Pac all day, but when some other guy tries to do it, he has no cred and is wack. it's funny. people have to be one thing or another and can't be both, cause that's being hypocritical. but fact of the matter, is that everyone is a hypocrite at one point or another. Pac reached a grip of people cause he was able to play both roles masterfully and was accepted as a person instead of a gangster, poet, or rapper.

i'll let david banner do his thing. he's makin his money and is trying to be him. at least he ain't claiming to shoot folks. at least from what i've heard.

i prefer common to anyone in G-Unit. but if anyone were to come at Common again, he might show them the ***** in them too.

and i ain't messing with top 5. too many people got different tastes. my top 5 would have pharoahe monch, talib, mos def, the gza and e-40. but that's my preference. not the usual top 5 you'd expect. so i'll let it be and say people agree to disagree.

oh, and Jay supposedly is gonna be declaring war on a grip of people. it's speculated he's gonna go at the Game for attacking the Young Gunz and Bleek. tho honestly i think Bleek is Jay's secret lover or something. from giving him Dear Summer for his album to push units, to Jay's verse on the Diamonds remix, there's gotta be something else there for Jay to be watchin out for Bleek that much. like Bleek ain't a grown ass man. maybe they're brothers or something. it's just odd to me.

I think its done with.. it cant get any bigger. 50 and GUnit defined him.
I think a lot of MC's could end Game's "career".

that's funny, cause that's the same formula that Pac used. he'd hit you from one side and then come at you with a 180 switch. that's part of the charisma. and it's funny cause people will jock on Pac all day, but when some other guy tries to do it, he has no cred and is wack. it's funny. people have to be one thing or another and can't be both, cause that's being hypocritical. but fact of the matter, is that everyone is a hypocrite at one point or another. Pac reached a grip of people cause he was able to play both roles masterfully and was accepted as a person instead of a gangster, poet, or rapper.

i'll let david banner do his thing. he's makin his money and is trying to be him. at least he ain't claiming to shoot folks. at least from what i've heard.

i prefer common to anyone in G-Unit. but if anyone were to come at Common again, he might show them the ***** in them too.

and i ain't messing with top 5. too many people got different tastes. my top 5 would have pharoahe monch, talib, mos def, the gza and e-40. but that's my preference. not the usual top 5 you'd expect. so i'll let it be and say people agree to disagree.

oh, and Jay supposedly is gonna be declaring war on a grip of people. it's speculated he's gonna go at the Game for attacking the Young Gunz and Bleek. tho honestly i think Bleek is Jay's secret lover or something. from giving him Dear Summer for his album to push units, to Jay's verse on the Diamonds remix, there's gotta be something else there for Jay to be watchin out for Bleek that much. like Bleek ain't a grown ass man. maybe they're brothers or something. it's just odd to me.


He's lyrically superior to 98% of other rappers out there. If only he had a broader base of work...maybe that would get him more love. Pharoahe can get down on the mic though for sure.

He's lyrically superior to 98% of other rappers out there. If only he had a broader base of work...maybe that would get him more love. Pharoahe can get down on the mic though for sure.
have you heard that song he did with meri ben ari? i havent but i hear its pretty good.

no... its not good to be honest. anthony hamiltons in it and i like anthony hamilton. but not that song.

the song is called "sunshine to the rain". kind of corny and kanye could have done a better production job on that.

no... its not good to be honest. anthony hamiltons in it and i like anthony hamilton. but not that song.

the song is called "sunshine to the rain". kind of corny and kanye could have done a better production job on that.
thats face and anthony hamilton i have that song for atleast a year now and i thought it was pretty good.

im talkin about monches song

Roll call...whatcha listening to?

I'm listening to that Jamie Foxx feat. Luda - Unpredictable

next on list:

David BAnner - Thinking of You
Finley Quaye - Even After All
Mobb Deep - Whats Ya Poison

i thought he got his pants sued off for that sample he used and was still fightin it.
thats face and anthony hamilton i have that song for atleast a year now and i thought it was pretty good.

im talkin about monches song

im not too big a fan on the david banner production... i thought rubber band man sounded like the organ they play at baseball games. plus I dont care for TI... prolly the most overhyped wrapper out there.
Roll call...whatcha listening to?

I'm listening to that Jamie Foxx feat. Luda - Unpredictable

next on list:

David BAnner - Thinking of You
Finley Quaye - Even After All
Mobb Deep - Whats Ya Poison

david banner has his master's degree from what i heard. thats good.

also, he started the egyptian pharoh goatee thing... nas copied it. damn nas needs to get original.
He's lyrically superior to 98% of other rappers out there. If only he had a broader base of work...maybe that would get him more love. Pharoahe can get down on the mic though for sure.

im not too big a fan on the david banner production... i thought rubber band man sounded like the organ they play at baseball games. plus I dont care for TI... prolly the most overhyped wrapper out there.
i dont care for ti either, he annoys me.

david banner has his master's degree from what i heard. thats good.

also, he started the egyptian pharoh goatee thing... nas copied it. damn nas needs to get original.


Murs=one of the dopest MC's that no one knows about.

well maybe they copied him...

I think a lot of MC's could end Game's "career".

I don't think so, the game has proven himself in beefs. Man I am still bumping the documentary, thats a hot cd.

Murs=one of the dopest MC's that no one knows about.


He is dope. I was just listening to "Bad Man" yesterday.

I don't think so, the game has proven himself in beefs. Man I am still bumping the documentary, thats a hot cd.


Who is he beefing with though? Wack ass rappers. I say a lot of MC's could destroy his career, because there's a lot of MC's better than him.

To destroy someone you have to have a huge following. Canibus didnt destroy LL. LLs still making music (crappy at that) and Canibus should be Can-who-bus.

You have to go it like 50 did yeah and kill the *****'s career off. IMO.

thats face and anthony hamilton i have that song for atleast a year now and i thought it was pretty good.

im talkin about monches song


that track is called New World Symphony. it's been out for a while. but, this is the official release. it's a dope track, it's political, lyrically nice, and has a bumping beat. personally i want Pharoahe to call out the world so they can take notice. i really wish those rumors of him signing with Shady were true. too bad that wouldn't have happened. i would've loved to hear him with Stat Quo or riding over a Dre beat.

Murs is dope. that video for that track that he did with John Cena was ****in HILARIOUS.

and i still miss a sane Lauryn Hill.

To destroy someone you have to have a huge following. Canibus didnt destroy LL. LLs still making music (crappy at that) and Canibus should be Can-who-bus.

You have to go it like 50 did yeah and kill the *****'s career off. IMO.

Artist: Canibus
Album: 2000 B.C.
Song: Lost @ 'C'
Typed by: obi1one@hotmail.com, OHHLA Webmaster DJ Flash

[Verse 1]
Yo, yo, yo
Now when you see that big ass 'C', you know I'm comin through
And when you know I'm comin through, you know what I'ma do
I never said that battlin me, would be impossible
I just think it's highly mother****in improbable
You talkin to a ***** that can split molecules
to subatomic particles, strong enough to stop a bull
Body-slam two oxes and drop a mule
Urinatin rocket fuel, freestylin over gospel tunes
Rhymes by the thousands, rhymes for hours
I could kick a rhyme longer than your whole album
The kickboxer, beatin the **** out *****z proper
I beat 'em till they holla, beat 'em til the cops come
Beatin *****z til they have seizures, beat 'em til they start screamin
like fax machines when they start receivin
Beat 'em til my own hands start bleedin
Beat 'em til they lungs stop breathin and they heart stop beatin
From 12 A.M. to 12 P.M. in the evenin
With three 15 minute breaks in between 'em
Good Jesus, that's a real West Indian beatin
That's what you get for ****in with this lyrical demon
My bloodstream's been, contaminated for eons
I got cast out of heaven for treason
Got cast out of the Garden of Eden
for lettin the reptilian beast in
Got locked up for a DUI and speedin
A whole legion of half-decent emcees'll get released when
they spit a hundred bars for they freedom
See I'm much too nice to compete wit
Too nice to flow over beats wit, too nice to hold a M-I-C wit
Off some diesel Hercules ****, I cold flip
and start to punch trees til they leafless
Inhale with two real deep breaths, hold my breath
til the whole planet suffocates and then release it (RELEASE IT)



[Verse 2]
Yo, yo
Now for the last couple of months, things been real quiet
cause I ain't heard **** worth buyin
I'm bout to show you *****z how I'm driven
The drive comes from my lyrics
and my lyrics come from my inner spirit
Vibratin and spinnin, faster than 12-cylinder engines
with nitrogen in 'em, faster than F-1 McLaren pistons
Fast enough to give your brain an aneurysm
cause you *****z is slower than fat *****es metabolism
The way I rip apart the competition when I be spittin
The name Canibus might as well be Cannibalism
Show me a man that can't feel him
I'll show you a man that'll grab him by the neck
and put his head to the fan on the ceilin
Suffer real "Banned From Television" ****
Drop him off the roof of a buildin and let the news film him
I hop in front of the cameras and tell 'em how I'm feelin
I tell 'em how I feel that hip-hop, should deal wit it
Tell 'em how I'm tired of the state rappers in
Ninety percent of the **** that rappers kick is subject matter-less
Not original, but blasphemous, just a bunch of the same characters
shootin the same videos, it's embarassin
Usin the same formulas to have a hit
Usin the same actors and actresses, same **** different laxative
Face it ***** you wack as **** I'm snatchin your mic
I make you run for your life, chill durin the daylight
then track you at night, my global position is satellite
Got a infrared lens to test your body's fahrenheit
Wherever you go, I track you through hail, sleet, or snow
I track you til you're seizure grows into a afro
until you plant 'em into cornrows
Track you til your shoe soles develop holes
and you get, corns on your toes
til your teeth develop halitosis
but you been goin so long without deodorant
you don't even notice -- mother****er!

hahaha I like Lauryn too. Prolly best female MC ever without a doubt.

She had a message too and it wasnt corny like Nas or Common.
that track is called New World Symphony. it's been out for a while. but, this is the official release. it's a dope track, it's political, lyrically nice, and has a bumping beat. personally i want Pharoahe to call out the world so they can take notice. i really wish those rumors of him signing with Shady were true. too bad that wouldn't have happened. i would've loved to hear him with Stat Quo or riding over a Dre beat.

Murs is dope. that video for that track that he did with John Cena was ****in HILARIOUS.

and i still miss a sane Lauryn Hill.

This is what I meant to say!
To destroy someone you have to have a following. Canibus didnt destroy LL. LLs still making music (crappy at that) and Canibus should be Can-who-bus.

You have to do it like 50 did Ja Rule and kill the *****'s career off. IMO.

hahaha I like Lauryn too. Prolly best female MC ever without a doubt.

She had a message too and it wasnt corny like Nas or Common.
You think nas and Common are corny?I have to disagree with you there...Why did I even type anything it matters not to each is own.

Common said "I wonder if God is a her." What the **** is he talking about?

Common said "I wonder if God is a her." What the **** is he talking about?
Well I think he meant what if God was a her...as in female since nobody really knows or ever will know...

Rap isnt a place to philosophical.

Rap isnt a place to philosophical.



Hip Hop represents creativity, philosophical, or any other form.

Hip Hop represents creativity, philosophical, or any other form.


Exactly...come on now.

Roll call...whatcha listening to?

I'm listening to that Jamie Foxx feat. Luda - Unpredictable

next on list:

David BAnner - Thinking of You
Finley Quaye - Even After All
Mobb Deep - Whats Ya Poison


epmd- cross over..... now playing

up next

pete rock & cl smooth - t.r.o.y

public enemy - shut em down

masta ace - block episodes

ghostface- be easy

wu syndicate- where was heaven

hey fix, you wouldnt happen to know where i can get lyrics?

ive searched and havent found the song im looking for.
2ndIInone song is called *****z trippin'
can you help?

hey fix, you wouldnt happen to know where i can get lyrics?

ive searched and havent found the song im looking for.
2ndIInone song is called *****z trippin'
can you help?
ohhla.com

someone posted it a couple days ago, i dont usually do lyric searches but i checked this site out and its pretty big.

ohhla.com

someone posted it a couple days ago, i dont usually do lyric searches but i checked this site out and its pretty big.
thx man,you 1 of the coolest cats in here.

Who is he beefing with though? Wack ass rappers. I say a lot of MC's could destroy his career, because there's a lot of MC's better than him.

I think he is underated...300 bars and runnin and the documentary proved his talent. He killed Joe Budden and G-unit. By the way I respect you as a rap fan Godzhand I know you know your stuff even though we disagree.

Rap isnt a place to philosophical.
Umm yes it is.

Man, come on. Rap, aint about philophosing about God's gender. Wasnt' rap made to talk about "urban" issues?

Man, come on. Rap, aint about philophosing about God's gender. Wasnt' rap made to talk about "urban" issues?
Hip Hop is about all kinds of things....Urban culture includes questioning what you have been led to believe in all aspects of life socially,economically,spiritually and more IMO....But I guess it depends on who you are I find it refreshing to hear Rappers talk about other things other than Bling,Guns and typical streetlife.

I like diverse topics in rap too, but when you have Common whose gimmick is to be "different", you have to question the sincerity of his comments. If Talib Kweli said that then maybe I could take it seriously.

That's Common's whole sell phrase: Im not your average rapper. Thats his gimmick... it just doesnt seem real.

I like diverse topics in rap too, but when you have Common whose gimmick is to be "different", you have to question the sincerity of his comments. If Talib Kweli said that then maybe I could take it seriously.

That's Common's whole sell phrase: Im not your average rapper. Thats his gimmick... it just doesnt seem real.
Alright I can appreciate your thinking that but Common has been around a long time and he has kept it real and not switched it up to achieve success like he could easily do especially with the light shining on Chicago Rappers so brightly the past few years.I don't know I really like his music more and more as I get older...I used to think he sucked but have learned to appreciate him more.I respect your opinion though.

Yo Fix, any of that Scarface up by any chance... Im dying to hear some of it, Last of a Dying Breed.. Mr Untouchable, anythin you got (except The Fix, I have that one)

yo i gotta agree with raesaad.

Rap music? words rhyming to a beat. don't matter what the subject matter may be. **** the first commercial rap song was Rapper's Delight. the sugarhill gang wasn't rapping about finding God, but they sure as hell weren't rapping about urban issues either. as artists, rappers are allowed to speak what they want. and if it doesn't fit your definition, that's kool. if you ever wondered about Common, check his diss to Ice Cube. it's called the ***** in Yoo. check that and get back to me and let me know what you think of Common. and yah he may not be like that anymore, but i think he's still nice.

oh and lemme add another MC to that last. i want to tie Talib with Black Thought from the roots. so yah i got 6 on a top 5 list. hahahah.

who else loves a long hot summer, iam always listening to it.

its become one of my all time fav albums

I've been listening to mixtapes lately.

You heard the new Clipse mixtape. that **** is hot.

who else loves a long hot summer, iam always listening to it.

its become one of my all time fav albums


Who would have thought that Masta Ace's final album would be such an amazingly good album. 4.9 Mics. :)

Who would have thought that Masta Ace's final album would be such an amazingly good album. 4.9 Mics. :)
its too bad that was his final album, although the rumors may not be true cause he also said that disposable arts was going to be his last.

Yo' gal fine, I'm knocking her up. Yo' gal fine, I'm knocking her up.

Where are you guys Dling these cds from? I had a program a while back but it was stuffed with viruses.

Also anyone hear the word of Ghostfaces new album coming out next week?

Where are you guys Dling these cds from? I had a program a while back but it was stuffed with viruses.

Also anyone hear the word of Ghostfaces new album coming out next week?

I buys my ****.

Go to a torrent site.

Anybody got the instrumental for Street Life by AZ?

You heard the new Clipse mixtape. that **** is hot.

ALBUM DROPPING THIS YEAR!!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!

Clipse = busts. They had probably the best rap producers ever do their whole album and didnt make a buzz at all.

Yes, Neptunes are the best. The sheer size of their catalog speaks volumes.

who cares i listen to what sounds good

Clipse = busts. They had probably the best rap producers ever do their whole album and didnt make a buzz at all.

Yes, Neptunes are the best. The sheer size of their catalog speaks volumes.


DJ Premier, Dr. Dre, and Pete Rock > The Neptunes.

I respectfully disagree... these producers have made rap anthems/classics but they're known for their long periods of inactivity. Neptunes have been producing non-stop for the past 4 years and are charging a million dollars a song... because they can.

Im getting that Pharell album by the way.
DJ Premier, Dr. Dre, and Pete Rock > The Neptunes.

Plus everbody knows Dre cant even play a keyboard... how is he making up "new beats". Also, there are constant rumors of ghost producers with him.

DJ Premier... really good. Lets not forget he samples. Yes hes a DJ and they sample, but its not fair to put him and his sampled music against unsampled new music from the Neptunes.

What has Pete Rock done lately. I like his old stuff.

pete rock produced a new ghostface track. i forgot what it's called.

i find the neptunes beats to revolve around the same style. yah they can play instruments and what not, but you know once the bass line hits, that it's a neptune beat. same with Eminem's beats as you can tell by the drums. personally i think that the best beats are the ones where you want to find out who the producer is. 9th wonder has been doing his thing lately. i'd also prefer just blaze, but that's cause i don't mind that sampling.

as far as dre goes, he's a legend. it don't matter if he can't play a keyboard or not, he's done it all and he did it before most producers were making it that big. he was the equivalent of the neptunes.

Hi-tek is also a dope producer and he is part of Dre's hit squad. Scott Storch started off with the Roots and is now a ****in millionaire. Jazzy Jeff's company, a touch of jazz, is making some dope sounds and has some great producers, don't believe me, then check out the brown album remix. Midi Mafia also has a distinct sound that i've liked for awhile.

music is music, sampled or not. well that's my thought. i figure if the MC didn't blow up so big, that turntablism would be a bigger part of hip hop and remixing and sampling would be a lot different, think like on some Invisible Skratch Picklz type ****. oh and to add one more producer to that list, Chops has been doing it for a minute too with some sick sounds.

Yeah I can spot a neptunes beat instantly. Same with Eminem. How is Eminem producing when hes humming a beat for a "engineer" to put into a melody on a keyboard?

Jazze Jeff had a tight beat. Someone tell me the song title. The chorus goes "love what you do and do what you love". Tight Jazzy Jeff beat.

pete rock produced a new ghostface track. i forgot what it's called.


"Be Easy"
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Yeah I can spot a neptunes beat instantly. Same with Eminem. How is Eminem producing when hes humming a beat for a "engineer" to put into a melody on a keyboard?

Jazze Jeff had a tight beat. Someone tell me the song title. The chorus goes "love what you do and do what you love". Tight Jazzy Jeff beat.


I love the Neptunes, but if you put their catalog up against, Primo or Dre, they just dont have enough time in the game yet. I'll start posting songs if I need to :)

Oh Neptunes also use the same keyboard/sythesizer for all their songs too... maybe thats the biggest source of their redundancy.
Yeah I can spot a neptunes beat instantly. Same with Eminem. How is Eminem producing when hes humming a beat for a "engineer" to put into a melody on a keyboard?

Jazze Jeff had a tight beat. Someone tell me the song title. The chorus goes "love what you do and do what you love". Tight Jazzy Jeff beat.

Dres had classics no doubt.
Primo has had real good songs too no doubt.
But in terms of total "hits" Dre or Primo can touch the Neptunes.
I love the Neptunes, but if you put their catalog up against, Primo or Dre, they just dont have enough time in the game yet. I'll start posting songs if I need to :)

Biggie has a new single off his last album. You can find it here. Donations welcomed . Thanks.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48737

Dres had classics no doubt.
Primo has had real good songs too no doubt.
But in terms of total "hits" Dre or Primo can touch the Neptunes.


Oh, I didnt know you were talking about "hits".

Yeah I was talking about hits.... I dont think neptunes have made any "classics" but still Dre nor Primo are nearly as talented as the neptunes.

Yeah I was talking about hits.... I dont think neptunes have made any "classics" but still Dre nor Primo are nearly as talented as the neptunes.


The Neptunes got mad hits. That Pharrell album is going to be a double album. Half Hip Hop, Half RnB. I'm looking foward to this very much. Have you heard the N.E.R.D. albums? CRAZY.

On a side note, this DJ Premier beat is greater than any song in the Neptunes' catalog:

Gangstarr-Mass Appeal
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JIIAO7DRPK83NILN9WIPHOR1

"suckas be like playin' themselves to have "mass appeal""

I have not purchased an album in literally years but I will cop that Pharrell album.

You like the song Maybe by NERD? Kind of rockish, but its good.

Downloading songs now.

I heard some of the NERD last album. Didnt like what I heard but I didnt hear it all. But I cant wait for the Pharrell album. He's probably my favorite artist right now. My pops likes Pharrell and they hate todays music.
The Neptunes got mad hits. That Pharrell album is going to be a double album. Half Hip Hop, Half RnB. I'm looking foward to this very much. Have you heard the N.E.R.D. albums? CRAZY.

On a side note, this DJ Premier beat is greater than any song in the Neptunes' catalog:

Gangstarr-Mass Appeal
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JIIAO7DRPK83NILN9WIPHOR1

"suckas be like playin' themselves to have "mass appeal""

The Neptunes got mad hits. That Pharrell album is going to be a double album. Half Hip Hop, Half RnB. I'm looking foward to this very much. Have you heard the N.E.R.D. albums? CRAZY.

On a side note, this DJ Premier beat is greater than any song in the Neptunes' catalog:

Gangstarr-Mass Appeal
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0JIIAO7DRPK83NILN9WIPHOR1

"suckas be like playin' themselves to have "mass appeal""
Mass appeal is a great song and vid....

Mass Appeal is good... but its not good to compare a DJ to a original music producer/s like NERD. Its easier to take things and scratch and chop up. Its much harder and requires a greater mind to create a new tune/melody.

Pharrell/Chag Hugo still reign supreme in my views.

Mass Appeal is good... but its not good to compare a DJ to a original music producer/s like NERD. Its easier to take things and scratch and chop up. Its much harder and requires a greater mind to create a new tune/melody.

Pharrell/Chag Hugo still reign supreme in my views.

I was comparing them as producers. That's what they both are.

Both skills command great skill.

I just mentioned the N.E.R.D. albums because they're awesome. The first one "In Search of..." is one of my favorite albums.

In Search of... was that the one with Lapdance? Now that stuff was too rock for me.
I was comparing them as producers. That's what they both are.

Both skills command great skill.

I just mentioned the N.E.R.D. albums because they're awesome. The first one "In Search of..." is one of my favorite albums.

This probably isnt news to any of you, but heres a link all about DJ Premier.
http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?t=151904

In Search of... was that the one with Lapdance? Now that stuff was too rock for me.


Yeah, that's the one. Too rock? Man, that **** is classic. Every song on that album is great.

Handsome Boy Modeling School F/Pharrell and Julie Cruise
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HV2U03RS7LZK06BQGMYY6O7GC


You're on the allhiphop.com message board? What's your name? Mine is God'z Hand

That song lap dance with vita is really too rock for me...
Yeah, that's the one. Too rock? Man, that **** is classic. Every song on that album is great.

Handsome Boy Modeling School F/Pharrell and Julie Cruise
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HV2U03RS7LZK06BQGMYY6O7GC


You're on the allhiphop.com message board? What's your name? Mine is God'z Hand

That song "Maybe" is about as rock as I can get. Its a good song too. "She Wants to Move" is a good song too.

I respectfully disagree... these producers have made rap anthems/classics but they're known for their long periods of inactivity. Neptunes have been producing non-stop for the past 4 years and are charging a million dollars a song... because they can.

Im getting that Pharell album by the way.


Wow you are way off base...

Premier known for long periods of inactivity? You sure you know what you're talking about?

Primo is the BEST producer EVER. I don't feel like there's any room to debate for anyone else except MAYBE Dre....maybe.

I'll post his resume soon. Hes had several gaps on inactivity. I like him as much as you, but seriously its like comparing apples and oranges cause NERD makes THEIR own beats.

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?t=50225
Premier resume

I'll post his resume soon. Hes had several gaps on inactivity. I like him as much as you, but seriously its like comparing apples and oranges cause NERD makes THEIR own beats.


Primo has been making top notch beats for 15 years now, Chad&Pharell have not.

Primo has produced entire CLASSIC albums for multiple artists, Chad and Pharell have not.

Primo is top 5 on the tables, Chad and Pharell are not.

Where again are these inactivity gaps? He's done stuff for other artists in between his work with Guru ya know.

I know.... I think if Pharell and Chad switched up the keyboards and became less obvious in videos, theyd have a long career too.

NERD/Neptunes have made hit after hit.

While Premier makes rap classics. You have to be a rap fan to appreciate Premier's talents. Plus, Im not trying to downgrade Premier, but he hears a song he likes, and scratches the melody. Thats hard in itself, but not as hard making a song with a $400 Yamaha synthesizer like NERD does.

It must come off the top of Pharell's dome when he makes music.

I know.... I think if Pharell and Chad switched up the keyboards and became less obvious in videos, theyd have a long career too.

NERD/Neptunes have made hit after hit.

While Premier makes rap classics. You have to be a rap fan to appreciate Premier's talents. Plus, Im not trying to downgrade Premier, but he hears a song he likes, and scratches the melody. Thats hard in itself, but not as hard making a song with a $400 Yamaha synthesizer like NERD does.

It must come off the top of Pharell's dome when he makes music.


I'm sorry, I think Chad is probably the mastermind behind those two. I know Pharell gets the love, but it seems like he's just the charasmatic one, whereas Chad probably has the good ideas. I may be wrong, but it seems that way to me. I've also heard rumors that it may be the case.

Primo has done work with Mya, Case, Janet, Aliyah, etc...you don't have to strictly be a hip hop head to know his work. The only other people that Pharell does work with is POP stars, so there that goes out the window.

Primo has a MUCH larger body of work, and its consistantly better as far as hip hop is concerned. This IS what the debate is over...who cares if Pharell produces **** for pop stars.

I just know that a lot of times, Premier makes a beat and the rappers he has on it stink it up (Pitch Black). He needs a good rapper/artist on the song for me to really really bump his stuff.

Pharell/Chad can make a hit from a good melody alone (Drop It Like its Hot/Holla Back Girl). Neptunes personally revived Snoops career. I dont think Primo could do that even if he gave his best beat (Hip Hop) to Snoop.

PS: I fault Pharell for biting Curtis Mayfield.
I'm sorry, I think Chad is probably the mastermind behind those two. I know Pharell gets the love, but it seems like he's just the charasmatic one, whereas Chad probably has the good ideas. I may be wrong, but it seems that way to me. I've also heard rumors that it may be the case.

Primo has done work with Mya, Case, Janet, Aliyah, etc...you don't have to strictly be a hip hop head to know his work. The only other people that Pharell does work with is POP stars, so there that goes out the window.

Primo has a MUCH larger body of work, and its consistantly better as far as hip hop is concerned. This IS what the debate is over...who cares if Pharell produces **** for pop stars.

Plus, looking at Premier's resume, I will definately tell him to stop doing people's remixes. Nobody really appreciate remixes.

I just know that a lot of times, Premier makes a beat and the rappers he has on it stink it up (Pitch Black). He needs a good rapper/artist on the song for me to really really bump his stuff.

Pharell/Chad can make a hit from a good melody alone (Drop It Like its Hot/Holla Back Girl). Neptunes personally revived Snoops career. I dont think Primo could do that even if he gave his best beat (Hip Hop) to Snoop.

PS: I fault Pharell for biting Curtis Mayfield.


So you downgrade the quality of the beat he makes because of the supposed lack of vocals over that track?

Come on now...

Who gives a **** about mainstream hits. You need to get it out of your head that a top 40 hit = quality. Hollaback Girl was one of the worst, most anoying songs I've ever heard. It was a hit because 13 year old girls ate it up like candy.

Primo is the best HIP HOP producer to ever do it.

Plus, looking at Premier's resume, I will definately tell him to stop doing people's remixes. Nobody really appreciate remixes.


Wow, have you heard the remixes?

I know your point on mainstream hits, but you cant discredit Pharell/Chad's work because of the genre they work with (pop).

I aint downgrading the quality of the track. For example, its just that when I hear "All Real" by Pitch Black I cant go more than a minute because of the rapping and im not about to listen to the instrumental.

A lot of songs by Primer like "rap phenomenon" by biggie is just hard on the ears. Something bout the beat.
So you downgrade the quality of the beat he makes because of the supposed lack of vocals over that track?

Come on now...

Who gives a **** about mainstream hits. You need to get it out of your head that a top 40 hit = quality. Hollaback Girl was one of the worst, most anoying songs I've ever heard. It was a hit because 13 year old girls ate it up like candy.

Primo is the best HIP HOP producer to ever do it.

I have heard his remixes, but theyre just that. Remixes. Usually not any new words. Just a different beat.
Wow, have you heard the remixes?

I just know that a lot of times, Premier makes a beat and the rappers he has on it stink it up (Pitch Black). He needs a good rapper/artist on the song for me to really really bump his stuff.

Pharell/Chad can make a hit from a good melody alone (Drop It Like its Hot/Holla Back Girl). Neptunes personally revived Snoops career. I dont think Primo could do that even if he gave his best beat (Hip Hop) to Snoop.

PS: I fault Pharell for biting Curtis Mayfield.


Oh yeah...have you ever heard Jeru Tha Damajas "Come Clean"? One of the most infectiously ill hip hop beats ever conceived. He made it from a water drip sample.

When I said Neptunes can make a hit from a melody alone, I meant it could have been anybody on Drop it like its hot or Hollaback girl and it would have been a hit.
Oh yeah...have you ever heard Jeru Tha Damajas "Come Clean"? One of the most infectiously ill hip hop beats ever conceived. He made it from a water drip sample.

When I said Neptunes can make a hit from a melody alone, I meant it could have been anybody on Drop it like its hot or Hollaback girl and it would have been a hit.


False. Very false actually.

You actually think that 13 year old girls would have been eating up Edo G feat. Neptunes "Beautiful"

or

Jean Grae feat. Neptunes "Hollaback Girl"

No...they wouldn't.

I think so.... maybe not 13 year old girls, but it would catch on. I mean people were actually listening to the Clipse... all production.
False. Very false actually.

You actually think that 13 year old girls would have been eating up Edo G feat. Neptunes "Beautiful"

or

Jean Grae feat. Neptunes "Hollaback Girl"

No...they wouldn't.

False. Very false actually.

You actually think that 13 year old girls would have been eating up Edo G feat. Neptunes "Beautiful"

or

Jean Grae feat. Neptunes "Hollaback Girl"

No...they wouldn't.


I wanna hear Jean Grae rip a Neptunes beat. She is a beast.

I wanna hear Jean Grae rip a Neptunes beat. She is a beast.


I would too. It would probably be a good song and would be respected among hip hop fans, but it wouldn't be a mainstream hit like r=b is trying to imply it would.

what was the biggie song that Roy Jones entered the ring with?

what was the biggie song that Roy Jones entered the ring with?

Ready To Die from his first album with the same title.

100 mil to the person who can name the sample used in this song.

It's an old school soul song...the name just slips my mind. I think it may be an Isley bros song.

David Banner - My Gun (http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1J7WPYWS4DVCJ0RXMKSQBBVHQG)

I heard this... Queen Latifah with Al Green "Simply Beautiful"

Al Green "Simply Beautiful" They play the one with Latifah/Dana Owens all the time on Sirius.

Al Green "Simply Beautiful" They play the one with Latifah/Dana Owens all the time on Sirius.


Good lookin...I knew it was either him or Ron I.

100 mil comin your way.

The Fix is back.....


florida was crazy, i met roy jones. he is a lot smaller than i thought he would be. atmosphere at the fight was insane and even though the fight didnt turn out the way i wanted, i still enjoyed it. roy showed some flashes of his former self but couldnt sustain that for more than a minute at a time. tarver was pretty humble about his win at the post fight interviews and even called roy jones champ while standinp up and clapping.

The new Atmosphere album-"You can't Imagine How Much Fun we're Having", is ridiculous. A lot of caucasian MC's are killing **** right now, Slug(Atmosphere),Cage(best album of the year so far, till that DOOM drops!), Eyedea(E & A is crazy)

The Fix is back.....


florida was crazy, i met roy jones. he is a lot smaller than i thought he would be. atmosphere at the fight was insane and even though the fight didnt turn out the way i wanted, i still enjoyed it. roy showed some flashes of his former self but couldnt sustain that for more than a minute at a time. tarver was pretty humble about his win at the post fight interviews and even called roy jones champ while standinp up and clapping.

Thats cool Fix :cool: , too bad RJ didn't win. I thought he was going to pull out a decision but it just didn't happen. :(

Thats cool Fix :cool: , too bad RJ didn't win. I thought he was going to pull out a decision but it just didn't happen. :(
i thought he did well, he put on a great show but its tarvers time right now. jones had a great career and thier is no shame in losing to a fighter like tarver.

i thought he did well, he put on a great show but its tarvers time right now. jones had a great career and thier is no shame in losing to a fighter like tarver.

Roy is still my favorite boxer of all time... :cool:

Roy is still my favorite boxer of all time... :cool:
mine as well, fighter of the 90's

Cot damn The Day After is gonna be hot for real.

Cot damn The Day After is gonna be hot for real.


It's ok. Better than Kamikaze, definently. Still nowhere near the ball park of Adrenaline Rush.

Mad props to Twista for not pulling a Common and hooking up with AllStar producers on this album. I got the new Vibe in Monday and they gave it 3 1/2 records which is solid.
Cot damn The Day After is gonna be hot for real.

Mad props to Twista for not pulling a Common and hooking up with AllStar producers on this album. I got the new Vibe in Monday and they gave it 3 1/2 records which is solid.


The Neptunes and Timbaland produce on his new album dont they? Twista first hooked up with Kanye on Kamikaze, right? They're both from Chicago too, and Twista didnt work with Kanye until he made it big.

He didnt pull a Common and had the whole album produced by one producer (who will be a fad producers Im sure of). Kanyes big mouth and over-sampling will lead to his downfall. Commons albe "Be" will be so dated when Kanyes no longer the "it" guy"
The Neptunes and Timbaland produce on his new album dont they? Twista first hooked up with Kanye on Kamikaze, right? They're both from Chicago too, and Twista didnt work with Kanye until he made it big.

Dats true too but I aint hating on Twista. He aint saying Im making real music and plus hes be on the grind forever. Barely gettin some respect. I aint mad at him. Its clear Twistas making music to sell. At least he isnt saying otherwise....
The Neptunes and Timbaland produce on his new album dont they? Twista first hooked up with Kanye on Kamikaze, right? They're both from Chicago too, and Twista didnt work with Kanye until he made it big.

Dats true too but I aint hating on Twista. He aint saying Im making real music and plus hes be on the grind forever. Barely gettin some respect. I aint mad at him. Its clear Twistas making music to sell. At least he isnt saying otherwise....


Yeah, when Kamikaze was about to drop, I was expecting him to be in top form on that Adrenaline Rush type ****. Then I bought that **** cd, and gave it to my EX-girlfriend, that's how wack that album is. The Day After is better, but I wont buy it, I downloaded it. Twista owes me one for that Kamikaze garbage.

He didnt pull a Common and had the whole album produced by one producer (who will be a fad producers Im sure of). Kanyes big mouth and over-sampling will lead to his downfall. Commons albe "Be" will be so dated when Kanyes no longer the "it" guy"


With songs that everyone can vibe to like "Go", and smoothed out **** like "Testify" and "They Say"(best song on the album), I dont think it will be dated, I do agree about Kanye though. A lot of his beats have been sounding familiar, not good for someone who has only 2 albums out. I'll bet he reaches out and gets other producers to contribute to his next album in hope of remaining a relevant solo artist.

He got some dude who makes movie music to co-produce his latest album. Really weird....

And Just Blaze did that song on Ye's album with Lupe Fiasco. This sampling **** has gone over board.
With songs that everyone can vibe to like "Go", and smoothed out **** like "Testify" and "They Say"(best song on the album), I dont think it will be dated, I do agree about Kanye though. A lot of his beats have been sounding familiar, not good for someone who has only 2 albums out. I'll bet he reaches out and gets other producers to contribute to his next album in hope of remaining a relevant solo artist.

I couldnt stand that song or video for "Testify" as the song has the typical Kanye Alvin and the Chipmunks voice. He really needs to spread his wings and try new ****.
With songs that everyone can vibe to like "Go", and smoothed out **** like "Testify" and "They Say"(best song on the album), I dont think it will be dated, I do agree about Kanye though. A lot of his beats have been sounding familiar, not good for someone who has only 2 albums out. I'll bet he reaches out and gets other producers to contribute to his next album in hope of remaining a relevant solo artist.

I couldnt stand that song or video for "Testify" as the song has the typical Kanye Alvin and the Chipmunks voice. He really needs to spread his wings and try new ****.


I think you may have that sample confused with that "Faithful" song, the sample on "Testify" is just a chick, who, I'm not sure.

Both songs....
Download this song "Faithful" by DJ Rogers. Its a church song but Kanye didnt do much at all.
I think you may have that sample confused with that "Faithful" song, the sample on "Testify" is just a chick, who, I'm not sure.

Both songs....
Download this song "Faithful" by DJ Rogers. Its a church song but Kanye didnt do much at all.


But the Testify sample isnt "tweaked" to have the chipmunk sound(which is SSSSSSSOOOOOOOO corny), the chick's voice sounds normal.

Maybe I should relisten to it... Those "tweaked" voices are so Camron/Diplomats and so 2000 if you ask me.
But the Testify sample isnt "tweaked" to have the chipmunk sound(which is SSSSSSSOOOOOOOO corny), the chick's voice sounds normal.

Hmmm i loved Kamikaze. Still Feels so Good was one of my favorite songs in 2004. Jazze Pha KILLED that hook...**** sounded like butter.

In fact i'll listen to it right now.

r=b im convicned that common slapped your mother or something like that. hes easily one of the 5-6 best emcees since the 90's...come off it.


EDIT: i'm not saying you have to like him or anything, but he deserves credit for what hes done.

Jazze Phe got video ho of the year last year with Vibe. Started out as a joke but its so true. Hes in everybodys video. I can tell a Jazze beat from a mile away... that same guitas/bass.
Hmmm i loved Kamikaze. Still Feels so Good was one of my favorite songs in 2004. Jazze Pha KILLED that hook...**** sounded like butter.

In fact i'll listen to it right now.

Jazze Phe got video ho of the year last year with Vibe. Started out as a joke but its so true. Hes in everybodys video. I can tell a Jazze beat from a mile away... that same guitas/bass.


I love jazzes sound. He's one of my favorite producers right now. He IS all over the place though...everyone is pining for him in their song somehow.