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The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:22 AM
Well, why has it worked for Blaze, Heatmakers and Kanye but not the originator Rza?
what do you mean by that? he is multiplatinum and one of the most respected producers of all time

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:22 AM
Eminem can say whatever the **** he wants and get away with it. He can release crap (and he has) like all those songs about killing his mom and his girlfriend and that song Ass Like That. I think the most cherished person in the black community is the mother figure. So I dont think it's cool to blacks that he's talking about killing his own mother.

See Eminem has the backing of MTV. He puts **** up and MTV shows it. Eminem and other pop garbage run MTV not rap.
BTW, Eminem addressed the would-be controversy on a song on Encore, killed it, and no one seemed to make a big thing of it.

There have been many, many more very blatant anti-White, anti-Jewish lyrics released than anything Eminem has said. Not that two "wrongs make a right", but it does explain why they shouldn't crucify him for saying a word as a kid that isn't as potent as it once was (did you see the video links for that V-Unit and Chucky Ackenz group linked off this site, where a white, black and Vietnamese dude take turns rapping in front of a multi-cultural mob and they all drop the N-word like it's nothing? I don't approve of it, but apparently there are a number of youth who don't hold the same attitudes that earlier generations did about the word"

Opening to Da Lench Mob album: "Damn, I'm sweatin' like a ***** at a white man's funeral"

Ice Cube on When will they shoot: "White man is something I tried to study/but I got my hands bloody" - then he hired one for his barbershop, served with a few in the Gulf War, hunted a big snake with 'em...lol

The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:23 AM
What are you talking about? Wu-Tang as a whole has put out two CLASSIC albums, with RZA's production.

Tell me any albums that those three producers put out that can **** with

Enter the 36 Chambers
Wu-Tang Forever

Please tell me that now.
not to mention the countless tracks he has done for wu solos

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:24 AM
Well, I guess I learned something today. Maybe I underestimated Rza.

Can someone give me a couple of 92 era songs Rza did. Going to download them and listen.
not to mention the countless tracks he has done for wu solos

MetalVomit
07-29-2005, 01:25 AM
Eyedea is sick on the mic "i'm really iller than anybody, buddy I'll bloody your body"

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:25 AM
Hey, racism exists still and there are still some things that even people who don't think they're racist get bothered by.

Lots of white people don't like movie remakes, book adaptations with black actors playing earlier white roles.

They have trouble with the fact that the Williams sisters came in and took over women's tennis and that the two best golfers in the world aren't white.

It's funny to me, though, that when it comes to discussing the best rappers and rap groups of all time, it's still not cool to say that in a minority-dominated, nearly exclusively, music genre - the best rapper in the game right now and the best rap group of all time is a honky from the Midwest and a gang of Jews...

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:26 AM
Eminem said the word N-I-G-G-E-R and MTV didnt miss a beat showing his videos. This is the same channel that at first refused to air black artists at its inception. Thats the truth, you can look that up yourself.

This is the same MTV that pushes for racial equality especially gay acceptance and they show a homophobe and racist artist.

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:27 AM
I wouldnt say the Beastie Boys are the best. Some people think they are and it doesnt bother me one bit. They never said the word N-i-g-g-e-r on record. Eminem has.
Hey, racism exists still and there are still some things that even people who don't think they're racist get bothered by.

Lots of white people don't like movie remakes, book adaptations with black actors playing earlier white roles.

They have trouble with the fact that the Williams sisters came in and took over women's tennis and that the two best golfers in the world aren't white.

It's funny to me, though, that when it comes to discussing the best rappers and rap groups of all time, it's still not cool to say that in a minority-dominated, nearly exclusively, music genre - the best rapper in the game right now and the best rap group of all time is a honky from the Midwest and a gang of Jews...

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:30 AM
On MTV Eminem is the best rapper. He hasnt sold the most albums in the last year. Thats the only way you could have said Eminem is the best. In fact 50 sold more. And Nelly. Encore is at 4 million records. His lowest selling record so far.

Em is very witty/crafty on the mic but the whole killing your mom doesnt go off to well in the black/hispanic communities.

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 01:30 AM
Not to mention that Rza produced

OB4CL

and

Liquid Swords (with the exception on 1 track I think)

Nash everything you are going to find of Wu was released on their first album.

They took a long time to get their **** together since they had 9 members.

And sorry that was GZA and ODB founded the group...then they got RZA to sign on.

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:31 AM
I wouldnt say the Beastie Boys are the best. Some people think they are and it doesnt bother me one bit. They never said the word N-i-g-g-e-r on record. Eminem has.
The Beasties would be the best if the criteria included critical acclaim, actual musical ability (they've put out an acoustic album), number of gold and platinum albums, total sales, awards, longevity

Of course, if Wu-Tang or NWA stayed in-tact or Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony get their **** together and make a serious comeback, they might not be...

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:31 AM
Cool. I will look that up tonight when I update my ipod.

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:32 AM
Rollingstone doesnt equal critical acclaim to me.

Some would argue and Im one of them that Beastie Boys music is not entirely rap. In fact its very rock sounding sometimes.

Grammys, MTV Music awards dont mean ****. Guns and Roses were the it band of the early 90s. Where are they now? Probably snorting cocaine.
The Beasties would be the best if the criteria included critical acclaim, actual musical ability (they've put out an acoustic album), number of gold and platinum albums, total sales, awards, longevity

Of course, if Wu-Tang or NWA stayed in-tact or Bone-Thugs-N-Harmony get their **** together and make a serious comeback, they might not be...

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 01:32 AM
Honestly, if I read something else about sales having to do with how good an emcee is i'm going to blow a fuse.

RwK
07-29-2005, 01:35 AM
Flame on - I rain fire, when johnny storm
I’m shocking like live wire - you have been warned
I prolong this next chamber, to make it strong
And prove all them doubters wrong
Killin em softly with this song, addin on
Let them toes get they tag on, dead men run no marathons
On my shift, shootin that gift, knowin he snitched
On the telethon, runnin his lips, sinkin the ship
Give back what his mother gave him, mother made him
And now she can’t even save him, johnny blaze ’em
Send him to his final restin
Back to the essence, faces of death - the final lesson

That **** is so sick its not even funny.

The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:38 AM
Well, I guess I learned something today. Maybe I underestimated Rza.

Can someone give me a couple of 92 era songs Rza did. Going to download them and listen.
do you have enter the 36 chambers? if not ill up it for you.

actually ive already started but tell me and i can cancel the upload.

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:38 AM
Eminem said the word N-I-G-G-E-R and MTV didnt miss a beat showing his videos. This is the same channel that at first refused to air black artists at its inception. Thats the truth, you can look that up yourself.

This is the same MTV that pushes for racial equality especially gay acceptance and they show a homophobe and racist artist.
Michael Jackson is MTV's most beloved artist, and he used the word '****' on a song...

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:39 AM
My bro has it on cassette. Yeah I have limewire... if you can suggest some songs that would be cool.
do you have enter the 36 chambers? if not ill up it for you.

actually ive already started but tell me and i can cancel the upload.

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:40 AM
Not at first. They refused to play black artists. About to give you a link....

Without a doubt Justin Timberlake is their artists. They builty him up from NSync.
Michael Jackson is MTV's most beloved artist, and he used the word '****' on a song...

The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:41 AM
My bro has it on cassette. Yeah I have limewire... if you can suggest some songs that would be cool.
i have liquid swords here if you want? i can upload that, its one of the best of all time...matter of fact i still have ob4cl on my pc as well(thanks niels :cool: )

any of those interest you?

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:42 AM
Yeah that would be cool. Have AOL IM we can send it on AOL.

They interest me.
i have liquid swords here if you want? i can upload that, its one of the best of all time...matter of fact i still have ob4cl on my pc as well(thanks niels :cool: )

any of those interest you?

The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:43 AM
Yeah that would be cool. Have AOL IM we can send it on AOL.

They interest me.
i dont have aol im, i can do it on yousendit.com....

but it will be in rar. format, all you need is the demo of winrar(it lasts forever)

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:44 AM
Not at first. They refused to play black artists. About to give you a link....

Without a doubt Justin Timberlake is their artists. They builty him up from NSync.
I didn't dispute your MTV story.

Currently, MTV exploits all races in favor of one color - green.

They've got all colors of "their artists"; among them Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Snoop...

The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:46 AM
I didn't dispute your MTV story.

Currently, MTV exploits all races in favor of one color - green.

They've got all colors of "their artists"; among them Nelly, Ja Rule, 50 Cent, Snoop...
i believe back in the day scarface and the geto boys were banned from air play on their station, i dont know if that ban still exists but mtv is built for the little girls imo

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:48 AM
Theyve banned a lot.. claiming indecency but they showed Prince's ass in that cut out suit and they show sex on the real world all the time. Go figure.
i believe back in the day scarface and the geto boys were banned from air play on their station, i dont know if that ban still exists but mtv is built for the little girls imo

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:49 AM
i believe back in the day scarface and the geto boys were banned from air play on their station, i dont know if that ban still exists but mtv is built for the little girls imo
I've heard something about what he's eluding to; that wasn't one of the things I was arguing over.

He's saying the network shouldn't play Eminem for some words he's been quoted as saying. I contend that would be very hypocritical, even if it was considered. I brought up a couple of rap artists with anti-white racial language on studio albums, not just playing around in a garage or a broke-down studio when they're kids.

And regardless of how "hard" you think Eminem is, he's far from the biggest "poser" in the game, black, white, or otherwise...

Check the story of a rapper from the 1990s called "Boss"

The Fix
07-29-2005, 01:49 AM
Theyve banned a lot.. claiming indecency but they showed Prince's ass in that cut out suit and they show sex on the real world all the time. Go figure.
so has bet, they have an entire black list of artists and videos they will not play

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:53 AM
The funny thing about BET is that they do that and the host always stoke the flames of a rivalry between musicians by asking the dumbest questions and then they air Comedy View or Comic View which is probably the most vulgar show on TV.

A black professor here at the University of Arizona is suing BET for their portrayal of black women. Her lawsuit was published in the school paper. One thing she said which was true and funny is that they have the UnCut show at night where they show all those asses and then the next show is The Hour of Power, the religious shows. Hahaha.
so has bet, they have an entire black list of artists and videos they will not play

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 01:55 AM
Must hear Wu-Tang Songs

Wu-Tang Clan:
C.R.E.A.M
Protect Ya Neck
Truimph
Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nothin to **** Wit
Bring Da Ruckus
Mystery of Chessboxing

Method Man:
Bring The Pain
All I Need
Extortion
Judgement Day
Method Man

GZA:
Breaker Breaker
Publicity
Duel of the Iron Mic
Cold World
Liquid Swords
Shadowboxin
Did Ya Say That
Silent
Animal Planet
Fame

Raekwon:
Knuckleheadz
Criminology
Incarcerated Scarfaces
Verbal Intercourse
Ice Cream

ODB:
Shimmy Shimmy Ya
Brooklyn Zoo

Ghostface Killah:
Winter Warz
Daytona 500
Apollo Kids
Ghost Showers
One
Forest

Off the top...

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:56 AM
The funny thing about BET is that they do that and the host always stoke the flames of a rivalry between musicians by asking the dumbest questions and then they air Comedy View or Comic View which is probably the most vulgar show on TV.

A black professor here at the University of Arizona is suing BET for their portrayal of black women. Her lawsuit was published in the school paper. One thing she said which was true and funny is that they have the UnCut show at night where they show all those asses and then the next show is The Hour of Power, the religious shows. Hahaha.
You'd think a professor at a university would make enough money to buy a remote...

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:56 AM
Ouch thats a list... Im gonna start with the first 10 songs tonight. Thanks bro. I'll give my views tomorrow.

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 01:57 AM
The funny thing about BET is that they do that and the host always stoke the flames of a rivalry between musicians by asking the dumbest questions and then they air Comedy View or Comic View which is probably the most vulgar show on TV.

A black professor here at the University of Arizona is suing BET for their portrayal of black women. Her lawsuit was published in the school paper. One thing she said which was true and funny is that they have the UnCut show at night where they show all those asses and then the next show is The Hour of Power, the religious shows. Hahaha.
LOL - I'ma call all my white buddies and file a class-action lawsuit against the producers of "The Steve Harvey Show"!

BLOODSHED
07-29-2005, 01:58 AM
Shes a media arts professor.
You'd think a professor at a university would make enough money to buy a remote...

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 02:00 AM
Shes a media arts professor.
Oh, so it's a publicity stunt. Makes sense...

The Fix
07-29-2005, 02:01 AM
Must hear Wu-Tang Songs

Wu-Tang Clan:
C.R.E.A.M
Protect Ya Neck
Method Man
Truimph
Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nothin to **** Wit
Bring Da Ruckus
Mystery of Chessboxing

GZA:
Breaker Breaker
Publicity
Duel of the Iron Mic
Cold World
Liquid Swords
Shadowboxin
Did Ya Say That
Silent
Animal Planet
Fame

Raekwon:
Knuckleheadz
Criminology
Incarcerated Scarfaces
Verbal Intercourse
Ice Cream

ODB:
Shimmy Shimmy Ya
Brooklyn Zoo

Ghostface Killah:
Winter Warz
Daytona 500
Apollo Kids
Ghost Showers
One
Forest

Off the top...
that song was crazy, i remember listening to that for a month straight and never getting tired of it.

great list OG. camay and poisonous darts are also some of my fav ghost joints as it cherez la ghost

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 02:01 AM
This is The Fix's thread. We're all just guests on it:

Who's Posted?
Total Posts: 1,033
User Name Posts
The Fix
229
GodzHand
148
oldgringo
145
mnash_98
127
THE TRUTH
79
neils7147933
59
Atwa_66
47
finesse
39
jose
26
mic573
20
ThaGreatest
17
RunWithKnives
13
kaps
11
blockburna944
8
masterdirector
5
NiGe2011
4
Mech(Assault)
3
sonofisis
3
BROWN BOMBER
3
angelo_dundee
3
Gattz187
3
fatpom
3
El Capo Rojo
3
Benoit Gaudet
3
IwatchBoxing
2
tregrimmd
2
boxing fan
2
enadeus
2
Manny_P
2
MosDefintly
2
2NdRoUnDkO
1
Lovely
1
the giant one
1
popsikal
1
DJTrey313
1
Living Legend
1
El Jefe
1
patto1984
1
Ricomania77
1
cple
1
roberson2u
1
GameOver
1
1stroundKO
1
SacTown1
1
run_for_your_effing_life
1
darksideryda
1
boxstarr
1
Dio2
1
borikua
1
Santino
1

MetalVomit
07-29-2005, 02:02 AM
I've heard something about what he's eluding to; that wasn't one of the things I was arguing over.

He's saying the network shouldn't play Eminem for some words he's been quoted as saying. I contend that would be very hypocritical, even if it was considered. I brought up a couple of rap artists with anti-white racial language on studio albums, not just playing around in a garage or a broke-down studio when they're kids.

And regardless of how "hard" you think Eminem is, he's far from the biggest "poser" in the game, black, white, or otherwise...

Check the story of a rapper from the 1990s called "Boss"


lol. i remember boss, she was wack.

The Fix
07-29-2005, 02:03 AM
This is The Fix's thread. We're all just guests on it:

Who's Posted?
Total Posts: 1,033
User Name Posts
The Fix
229
GodzHand
148
oldgringo
145
mnash_98
127
THE TRUTH
79
neils7147933
59
Atwa_66
47
finesse
39
jose
26
mic573
20
ThaGreatest
17
RunWithKnives
13
kaps
11
blockburna944
8
masterdirector
5
NiGe2011
4
Mech(Assault)
3
sonofisis
3
BROWN BOMBER
3
angelo_dundee
3
Gattz187
3
fatpom
3
El Capo Rojo
3
Benoit Gaudet
3
IwatchBoxing
2
tregrimmd
2
boxing fan
2
enadeus
2
Manny_P
2
MosDefintly
2
2NdRoUnDkO
1
Lovely
1
the giant one
1
popsikal
1
DJTrey313
1
Living Legend
1
El Jefe
1
patto1984
1
Ricomania77
1
cple
1
roberson2u
1
GameOver
1
1stroundKO
1
SacTown1
1
run_for_your_effing_life
1
darksideryda
1
boxstarr
1
Dio2
1
borikua
1
Santino
1
lol, its my fav thread of all time, its like iam addicited :o

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 02:04 AM
that song was crazy, i remember listening to that for a month straight and never getting tired of it.

great list OG. camay and poisonous darts are also some of my fav ghost joints as it cherez la ghost


That's just what I have on my comp. I forgot Camay (I forget who that is crooning in the bg sample)...cherchez is also great. I was never quite sold on Poisonous Darts...good song but not something I'd put on my must hear.

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 02:08 AM
Haha I created this thread basically so that Fix and I could bull**** around about favorite all-time this and thats...

Neils we need a stronger presence from you on this thread mayne...

As you can see its mainly Fix, myself, Godz, and mnash doing the majority of the posting. Truth chimes in every so often too which is good.

I would have thought that jose would have more to say but I guess not.

The Fix
07-29-2005, 02:10 AM
That's just what I have on my comp. I forgot Camay (I forget who that is crooning in the bg sample)...cherchez is also great. I was never quite sold on Poisonous Darts...good song but not something I'd put on my must hear.
it samples "cant we try" by teddy pendergrass i believe, i remember arguing with a freind what sample that was but thats it if i remember correctly

edit- the only reason i argued with him was because i thought it was some other dude( cant remember his name now) but i couldve sworn it was him but he was holding the cd booklet and i treid to guess....i was wrong

The Fix
07-29-2005, 02:11 AM
Haha I created this thread basically so that Fix and I could bull**** around about favorite all-time this and thats...

Neils we need a stronger presence from you on this thread mayne...

As you can see its mainly Fix, myself, Godz, and mnash doing the majority of the posting. Truth chimes in every so often too which is good.

I would have thought that jose would have more to say but I guess not.
yeah i remember you saying your were going to make this thread, i knew if someone made a thread like this it would last.

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 02:16 AM
Haha I created this thread basically so that Fix and I could bull**** around about favorite all-time this and thats...

Neils we need a stronger presence from you on this thread mayne...

As you can see its mainly Fix, myself, Godz, and mnash doing the majority of the posting. Truth chimes in every so often too which is good.

I would have thought that jose would have more to say but I guess not.
unfortunately, a lot of my rap knowledge is in a limited number of years. If this was 1994, I'd be posting my ass off - I'd hear most albums that came out. I was the BMG Music Service pimp, getting people to join through me, ordering through them plus getting my free CDs - I had a few friends who seemed to always have money, too, and they'd hit Camelot music with a list of stuff I told them they needed to get, stuff I'd read about in Vibe or The Source.

Truth be known (he says running from the thread to get a helmet), I'm not a real big fan of modern hip-hop and rap, and this comes from someone who cuts a lot of slack to pop music - I have to drive 20 minutes east to be able to tune in a true hip hop radio station, and what I don't download here (that dude in the pink lucha mask isn't anywhere around, is he), I usually am only exposed to on Top 40 radio nowadays.

Kind of like the two ECW reunion shows renewing my interest in pro wrestling, Fix sending me Talib Kweli and Common's new CDs kind of made me interested in rap again; I'm like "wow, not a single song featuring Nelly or P. Diddy...."

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 02:17 AM
it samples "cant we try" by teddy pendergrass i believe, i remember arguing with a freind what sample that was but thats it if i remember correctly

edit- the only reason i argued with him was because i thought it was some other dude( cant remember his name now) but i couldve sworn it was him but he was holding the cd booklet and i treid to guess....i was wrong



HELL YEAH...thats who I was thinking...Teddy P. Of course it was Teddy P, dude pulled more ass than toilet seat before his paralyzation.

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 02:20 AM
unfortunately, a lot of my rap knowledge is in a limited number of years. If this was 1994, I'd be posting my ass off - I'd hear most albums that came out. I was the BMG Music Service pimp, getting people to join through me, ordering through them plus getting my free CDs - I had a few friends who seemed to always have money, too, and they'd hit Camelot music with a list of stuff I told them they needed to get, stuff I'd read about in Vibe or The Source.

Truth be known (he says running from the thread to get a helmet), I'm not a real big fan of modern hip-hop and rap, and this comes from someone who cuts a lot of slack to pop music - I have to drive 20 minutes east to be able to tune in a true hip hop radio station, and what I don't download here (that dude in the pink lucha mask isn't anywhere around, is he), I usually am only exposed to on Top 40 radio nowadays.

Kind of like the two ECW reunion shows renewing my interest in pro wrestling, Fix sending me Talib Kweli and Common's new CDs kind of made me interested in rap again; I'm like "wow, not a single song featuring Nelly or P. Diddy...."


Crawfordsville is pretty small isn't it?

I assume you have limewire...i'll start dropping a few song titles every so often and you'll definitely want to download them.

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 02:26 AM
Crawfordsville is pretty small isn't it?

I assume you have limewire...i'll start dropping a few song titles every so often and you'll definitely want to download them.
15,000 or so...

96.3 in Indianapolis is hot; they even play some local artists, but the 96.5 signal from Lafayette is 10x its size, so you've got to get close to 'Nap town to hear "Blazin' Hip-Hop and R & B"

I can get to Indianapolis or Lafayette in an hour; I can get to Chicago in less than 3 hours and St. Louis in less than 4. I don't mind where I'm at.

I do think that, around the time of Naughty by Nature's debut, Apocalypse 91, Heavy D's Peaceful Journey (my first rap tape purchase I made myself where one of them had a "warning", which is a big deal for a junior higher in a family with a strict values code when it comes to entertainment) to say the Above the Rim soundtrack, the first Nas, Wu-Tang & Outkast disc, is my favorite era. I heard rap before that and I've heard it after, but I "felt" it in those years. Nirvana, Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails - that was some people's "rebel" music that they'd play that their parents hated. Me? I knew "The Chronic" and "Shorty the Pimp" front ways and back...

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 02:47 AM
This is why Pharoahe Monch is top 15 in my book.

Pharoahe Monch - Mayor (http://s55.yousendit.com/d.php?id=ROX05KC0YPWG4WYBESRPVUSK)

Greatest lyricist I've heard since the G.O.D. himself.

The Fix
07-29-2005, 02:56 AM
This is why Pharoahe Monch is top 15 in my book.

Pharoahe Monch - Mayor (http://s55.yousendit.com/d.php?id=ROX05KC0YPWG4WYBESRPVUSK)

Greatest lyricist I've heard since the G.O.D. himself.
monch is sick .....

not in my 15 but he is a beast

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 03:10 AM
monch is sick .....

not in my 15 but he is a beast


More reasoning behind him being top 15.

Organized Konfusion - Open Your Eyes (http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0BEWLG6TKNP082FA271KX5KK2H)

One of the greatest hip hop tracks ever conceived. Pharoahe on on the track first, Prince Po second.

Pharoahe mercs this track...beautiful song.

MetalVomit
07-29-2005, 11:41 AM
This is why Pharoahe Monch is top 15 in my book.

Pharoahe Monch - Mayor (http://s55.yousendit.com/d.php?id=ROX05KC0YPWG4WYBESRPVUSK)

Greatest lyricist I've heard since the G.O.D. himself.

I also like "Hell", he rips that ****. Monch is amazing, I have all the Organized Konfusion albums as well as Internal Affairs.

MetalVomit
07-29-2005, 11:48 AM
unfortunately, a lot of my rap knowledge is in a limited number of years. If this was 1994, I'd be posting my ass off - I'd hear most albums that came out. I was the BMG Music Service pimp, getting people to join through me, ordering through them plus getting my free CDs - I had a few friends who seemed to always have money, too, and they'd hit Camelot music with a list of stuff I told them they needed to get, stuff I'd read about in Vibe or The Source.

Truth be known (he says running from the thread to get a helmet), I'm not a real big fan of modern hip-hop and rap, and this comes from someone who cuts a lot of slack to pop music - I have to drive 20 minutes east to be able to tune in a true hip hop radio station, and what I don't download here (that dude in the pink lucha mask isn't anywhere around, is he), I usually am only exposed to on Top 40 radio nowadays.

Kind of like the two ECW reunion shows renewing my interest in pro wrestling, Fix sending me Talib Kweli and Common's new CDs kind of made me interested in rap again; I'm like "wow, not a single song featuring Nelly or P. Diddy...."


Ahh, the mid nineties. ****, wu, bcc,death row.......
6th grade on my birthday, I got my first cd player and my father took me to musicland. My first 5 cd's I ever got are the following:

Rakim(**** eric b.):Paid In Full
Cypress Hill:Black Sunday
Gangstarr:Hard To Earn
Snoop:Doggystyle
Enter The 36 Chambers

I had heard about these albums in The Source as well, The Source was my only link to Hip Hop at the time, I didnt even have a stereo then. My pops took me to the store and I just started grabbing the albums that I recognized from reading/hearing about. I didnt know who any of them were, not even Rakim.I never thought that they would be 5 of the greatest hip hop albums ever. I've got over one thousand cd's, no bull****, and these 5 albums began my obsession. My mom was a serious Church person then, and didnt want me to have anything with the parental advisory sign on it, so I had to hide them under my bookshelf. I remember staying up late at night, playing video games and just being mesmerized by the music I was hearing. I swear to the Lord himself, I'll play "Mass Appeal" at my wedding!

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 12:31 PM
Ahh, the mid nineties. ****, wu, bcc,death row.......
6th grade on my birthday, I got my first cd player and my father took me to musicland. My first 5 cd's I ever got are the following:

Rakim(**** eric b.):Paid In Full
Cypress Hill:Black Sunday
Gangstarr:Hard To Earn
Snoop:Doggystyle
Enter The 36 Chambers

I had heard about these albums in The Source as well, The Source was my only link to Hip Hop at the time, I didnt even have a stereo then. My pops took me to the store and I just started grabbing the albums that I recognized from reading/hearing about. I didnt know who any of them were, not even Rakim.I never thought that they would be 5 of the greatest hip hop albums ever. I've got over one thousand cd's, no bull****, and these 5 albums began my obsession. My mom was a serious Church person then, and didnt want me to have anything with the parental advisory sign on it, so I had to hide them under my bookshelf. I remember staying up late at night, playing video games and just being mesmerized by the music I was hearing. I swear to the Lord himself, I'll play "Mass Appeal" at my wedding!
don't forget In Living Color. First time I ever saw Busta Rhymes (with LONS), Boogie Down Productions, Tribe Called Quest, some others.

I was in 6th grade when Kris Kross performed on In Living Color; that was the main topic of conversation the next day.

Are you too young to have "krossed out" your clothes a time or two? lol...

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 12:33 PM
don't forget In Living Color. First time I ever saw Busta Rhymes (with LONS), Boogie Down Productions, Tribe Called Quest, some others.

I was in 6th grade when Kris Kross performed on In Living Color; that was the main topic of conversation the next day.

Are you too young to have "krossed out" your clothes a time or two? lol...
Back then, some teachers would let us have a boom box during lunch hour. That was back in the day of the audio tape with the dirty side and the clean side. I had a very limited sex knowledge based on some PC health class stuff; my introduction to the "dirty" side came from the Life Is...Too Short tape that some kid had got his dad to buy him. When teachers would come around, we'd just turn the tape over to the clean side.

neils7147933
07-29-2005, 12:34 PM
Ahh, the mid nineties. ****, wu, bcc,death row.......
6th grade on my birthday, I got my first cd player and my father took me to musicland. My first 5 cd's I ever got are the following:

Rakim(**** eric b.):Paid In Full
Cypress Hill:Black Sunday
Gangstarr:Hard To Earn
Snoop:Doggystyle
Enter The 36 Chambers

I had heard about these albums in The Source as well, The Source was my only link to Hip Hop at the time, I didnt even have a stereo then. My pops took me to the store and I just started grabbing the albums that I recognized from reading/hearing about. I didnt know who any of them were, not even Rakim.I never thought that they would be 5 of the greatest hip hop albums ever. I've got over one thousand cd's, no bull****, and these 5 albums began my obsession. My mom was a serious Church person then, and didnt want me to have anything with the parental advisory sign on it, so I had to hide them under my bookshelf. I remember staying up late at night, playing video games and just being mesmerized by the music I was hearing. I swear to the Lord himself, I'll play "Mass Appeal" at my wedding!
My first rap tapes were Young MC - Stone Cold Rhymin' and DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince - He's the DJ I'm the Rapper, but my buddy had all the Fat Boys tapes before that...

The Fix
07-29-2005, 02:37 PM
Ahh, the mid nineties. ****, wu, bcc,death row.......
6th grade on my birthday, I got my first cd player and my father took me to musicland. My first 5 cd's I ever got are the following:

Rakim(**** eric b.):Paid In Full
Cypress Hill:Black Sunday
Gangstarr:Hard To Earn
Snoop:Doggystyle
Enter The 36 Chambers

I had heard about these albums in The Source as well, The Source was my only link to Hip Hop at the time, I didnt even have a stereo then. My pops took me to the store and I just started grabbing the albums that I recognized from reading/hearing about. I didnt know who any of them were, not even Rakim.I never thought that they would be 5 of the greatest hip hop albums ever. I've got over one thousand cd's, no bull****, and these 5 albums began my obsession. My mom was a serious Church person then, and didnt want me to have anything with the parental advisory sign on it, so I had to hide them under my bookshelf. I remember staying up late at night, playing video games and just being mesmerized by the music I was hearing. I swear to the Lord himself, I'll play "Mass Appeal" at my wedding!

lol that was the same with my mom :D id save up all my money so i could by a cd but id have to hide it somewhere in my room because if she found it, she would return and keep the money as punishment. she said "if your going to buy trash then you dont really need money", she did this to me once after finding either reasonable doubt or something like that.... i ususally hid my cd's pretty well but i left that one on the counter in my cd player and she turned it on and gave it a listen

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 03:23 PM
Alright *****es I'm out for about 8-9 days on vacation hold this thread down with all killer no filler...

The Fix
07-29-2005, 03:28 PM
Alright *****es I'm out for about 8-9 days on vacation hold this thread down with all killer no filler...
where are you going?

MetalVomit
07-29-2005, 05:38 PM
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26SOYG68H3RXT0ZY10RN1I8140

Agallah, and M-1 of Dead Prez pay tribute to Wu-Tang, this is only half the song, it's all ****ed up and static-y at the end.

MetalVomit
07-29-2005, 05:40 PM
(DJ)7L & Esoteric-Knockout, this white dude esoteric is nice.

http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1I61D56E38SWR01BD3DBN1R2TF

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 06:19 PM
where are you going?


Maine...Im packing as we speak.

The Fix
07-29-2005, 07:25 PM
Maine...Im packing as we speak.
is maine nice? ive never been but is it like a party town? or is it more a place to chill at?

oldgringo
07-29-2005, 08:36 PM
is maine nice? ive never been but is it like a party town? or is it more a place to chill at?


It's pretty much just great overall. For me it's just a place to chill right now. It's one of the most beautiful areas in the world and is one of the most beautiful states in the US. Great beaches and seafood.

However, downtown Portland (I'm staying in Portland with family) has the highest concentration of bars in per sq foot in the US. 4,000 bars in downtown Portland :eek:

Too bad I won't be 21 for another 2 1/2 months :(

boxing fan
07-29-2005, 11:48 PM
I was serious about the Mike Jones requests.

The Fix
07-30-2005, 12:13 PM
It's pretty much just great overall. For me it's just a place to chill right now. It's one of the most beautiful areas in the world and is one of the most beautiful states in the US. Great beaches and seafood.

However, downtown Portland (I'm staying in Portland with family) has the highest concentration of bars in per sq foot in the US. 4,000 bars in downtown Portland :eek:

Too bad I won't be 21 for another 2 1/2 months :(
sounds pretty good, too bad about the age limits......

The Fix
07-30-2005, 12:14 PM
I was serious about the Mike Jones requests.
too bad no one else is :D

MetalVomit
07-30-2005, 12:26 PM
I was serious about the Mike Jones requests.


You are in a hip hop thread buddy. Mike Jones, is not hip hop.

BLOODSHED
07-30-2005, 01:07 PM
I gotta agree. Mike Jones. Who is Mike Jones? That will be a serious question in a year.
You are in a hip hop thread buddy. Mike Jones, is not hip hop.

Truth
07-30-2005, 02:22 PM
Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones Mike Jones!!!!!!:haha:

{BrownBomber}
07-30-2005, 04:00 PM
Hey hip hop heads here is the new Psyco Realm cd download. Truth is I need to make some betting points and donations are welcome.:D Im flat out broke!!!!


http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MM2TG2U38ISV0HAP1PDULW4MU

{BrownBomber}
07-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Read the post above you gentlemen.This is the new Young Jeezy's new album Lets get it! Much love is apreciated, thx godzhand I got your donation.



http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CN1SNTLJPBS128Z3F02AANE85 (http://s22.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2CN1SNTLJPBS128Z3F02AANE85)

Shaolin Bushido
07-30-2005, 11:34 PM
Beastie Boyz ... that's my contribution to this thread. Don't thank me ... it was my pleasure.

BLOODSHED
07-31-2005, 12:21 AM
Thanks for the download Brown Bomber.

I was just thought of another group I like better than Wu... Mobb Deep. Please tell me there are son Mobb listeners here?
Hey hip hop heads here is the new Psyco Realm cd download. Truth is I need to make some betting points and donations are welcome.:D Im flat out broke!!!!


http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MM2TG2U38ISV0HAP1PDULW4MU

The Fix
07-31-2005, 12:34 AM
Thanks for the download Brown Bomber.

I was just thought of another group I like better than Wu... Mobb Deep. Please tell me there are son Mobb listeners here?
i like older mobb deep **** but they arent close to the wu's level, no group is....

Sir_Jose
07-31-2005, 01:55 AM
i like older mobb deep **** but they arent close to the wu's level, no group is....


NWA> Wu

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BLOODSHED
07-31-2005, 02:41 AM
Definately. I think Dr Dre has done more for rap than Wu combined.
NWA> Wu

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MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 01:33 PM
Anyone have a cd quality copy of House Of Pain-Legend?

The Fix
07-31-2005, 03:26 PM
NWA> Wu

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no way, ice cube wrote everything and carried them as a group. dont get me wrong nwa was one of the best groups of all time but they dont have that much material and two of the members dont write their own stuff.

MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 03:32 PM
Definately. I think Dr Dre has done more for rap than Wu combined.


You gotta do your homework my friend.

Sir_Jose
07-31-2005, 03:33 PM
no way, ice cube wrote everything and carried them as a group. dont get me wrong nwa was one of the best groups of all time but they dont have that much material and two of the members dont write their own stuff.


Are you kidding me?

Dre and Ice Cube have contributed more to Hip-Hop than all the members of the Wu-Tang combined.

MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 03:34 PM
I can see your point on Cube and Dre, they've done a lot, Ren was dope, Eazy didnt even write his own ****, and Yella just stood around with his raiders hat on. NWA was revolutionary, but I wouldnt say they are better than Wu. We all have our opinions.

The Fix
07-31-2005, 03:38 PM
Are you kidding me?

Dre and Ice Cube have contributed more to Hip-Hop than all the members of the Wu-Tang combined.
as solo artists they have done a lot but as a group they are not on the wu's level...

Sir_Jose
07-31-2005, 03:48 PM
as solo artists they have done a lot but as a group they are not on the wu's level...


As a group they are the single most influnetuial Hip-Hop group of all time.

The Fix
07-31-2005, 04:21 PM
As a group they are the single most influnetuial Hip-Hop group of all time.
i would say public enemy was the most influential hip-hop group of all time.

and as far as the ny goes, wu invented that grimey sound that was so popular for east coast rap.

Sir_Jose
07-31-2005, 04:31 PM
i would say public enemy was the most influential hip-hop group of all time.

and as far as the ny goes, wu invented that grimey sound that was so popular for east coast rap.


No way. No music group of the last 20 years has had a bigger influnce on music, Hip-Hop and pop culture than NWA. You guys weren't even cussing before they came out and now everyone and there mother is a hard ass gangster in Hip-Hop where do you think that comes from?

The Fix
07-31-2005, 04:48 PM
No way. No music group of the last 20 years has had a bigger influnce on music, Hip-Hop and pop culture than NWA. You guys weren't even cussing before they came out and now everyone and there mother is a hard ass gangster in Hip-Hop where do you think that comes from?
ice-t, 2 live crew and the geto boys were cussing before the nwa did.

jack_the_rippuh
07-31-2005, 06:52 PM
Did anyone use to enjoy that gay stuff Jay Z use to do back in the day. That tongue-twisting flow....

i.e. I come back like figgity-biggity bam! Jay be the miggity figgity man!

The Fix
07-31-2005, 07:21 PM
Did anyone use to enjoy that gay stuff Jay Z use to do back in the day. That tongue-twisting flow....

i.e. I come back like figgity-biggity bam! Jay be the miggity figgity man!
i liked jays old flow, i think he could still use it but he has perfected his flow, he could kill any beat

Truth
07-31-2005, 07:26 PM
The Fix is the undisputed king of hip hop on this site...:bling:

MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 07:30 PM
i liked jays old flow, i think he could still use it but he has perfected his flow, he could kill any beat



Many forget about Jay "rappin like the Fu-Schnickens", Nas designed his "Blueprint", who's he kiddin? LOL, I like Jay, not a very big fan, but he definently was riggity rappin like diggity das efx back then. I got a special treat for you guys, it's uploading now. it's gonna take a while

The Fix
07-31-2005, 07:31 PM
The Fix is the undisputed king of hip hop on this site...:bling:
lol thanks.... :D

The Fix
07-31-2005, 07:32 PM
Many forget about Jay "rappin like the Fu-Schnickens", Nas designed his "Blueprint", who's he kiddin? LOL, I like Jay, not a very big fan, but he definently was riggity rappin like diggity das efx back then. I got a special treat for you guys, it's uploading now. it's gonna take a while
hey in that image it kinda looks like jay on the left :confused:

MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 07:33 PM
hey in that image it kinda looks like jay on the left :confused:


yep, sure is. that's a hint to the suprise im gonna post when it's done uploading
;)

The Fix
07-31-2005, 07:34 PM
yep, sure is. that's a hint to the suprise im gonna post when it's done uploading
;)
lol ok, what the hell is jay doing there :D


btw ima have to check out your suprise in a bit cause iam going out right now

MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 07:36 PM
lol ok, what the hell is jay doing there :D


btw ima have to check out your suprise in a bit cause iam going out right now


I'm leaving as well, it wont be posted for at least 4 hours, I don't know exactly when I'm getting home.

MetalVomit
07-31-2005, 07:53 PM
Cancel that, my plans just got pushed back an hour.

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1BE81F0QNUB3S1252GR88G3BEV

Truth
07-31-2005, 07:57 PM
lol thanks.... :D

I trust your opinion...I am dead serious, I have even told friends well The Fix said that Cd ain't that good. You know your stuff...:D

Sir_Jose
07-31-2005, 09:27 PM
ice-t, 2 live crew and the geto boys were cussing before the nwa did.


Who made it national and brought it the mainstream? Thats right.

neils7147933
07-31-2005, 09:47 PM
ice-t, 2 live crew and the geto boys were cussing before the nwa did.
Too Short was as early as Ice-T was...

mic573
07-31-2005, 11:39 PM
No way. No music group of the last 20 years has had a bigger influnce on music, Hip-Hop and pop culture than NWA. You guys weren't even cussing before they came out and now everyone and there mother is a hard ass gangster in Hip-Hop where do you think that comes from?

NWA just put that style of rap on a nationwide level. There were rappers doing the same thing before NWA came out.

Sir_Jose
07-31-2005, 11:42 PM
NWA just put that style of rap on a nationwide level. There were rappers doing the same thing before NWA came out.


and if you paid attention I already said that.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-01-2005, 03:05 AM
I don't listen to hip-hop on the radio these days because the **** they play here in Dallas blows. If any of you have the same problem you can listen to some pretty dope **** on this hip-hop internet radio station..... Hip-Hop Fundamentalz is pretty dope.
Hip-Hop Fundamentalz (http://www.hiphopfundamentalz.com/)

MetalVomit
08-02-2005, 12:22 AM
Everlast aka Whitey Ford. one of my favorite MC's


http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=106TOQJLBGJ8C17QU3TF676WX2

neils7147933
08-02-2005, 12:23 AM
Everlast aka Whitey Ford. one of my favorite MC's


http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=106TOQJLBGJ8C17QU3TF676WX2

another Godz Hand compilation? (I can't open the link because I have 3 downloads going already)

blockburna944
08-02-2005, 01:05 AM
Is that your own compilation or a best of cd?
by the way i got his 1st 3 solo cds, but im looking for the 4th one, you got it?

MetalVomit
08-02-2005, 01:26 AM
yes, my compilation

MetalVomit
08-02-2005, 01:35 AM
i always make compilations of my favorite artists, so i can keep less cd's in my car. I got so many damn cd's.

BLOODSHED
08-02-2005, 03:35 AM
you need an ipod
i always make compilations of my favorite artists, so i can keep less cd's in my car. I got so many damn cd's.

neils7147933
08-02-2005, 06:44 AM
yes, my compilation
thanks for that; no House of Pain tracks, though?

MetalVomit
08-02-2005, 01:31 PM
thanks for that; no House of Pain tracks, though?



theres a couple. "On Point"(my fav House of Pain track), "The Havenots","Word Is Bond", and "Legend" are all HOP tracks. There were a few I wanted to put on, but "Jump Around" everyone already knows, and the couple others werent as good as the other tracks I put on instead.

The Fix
08-02-2005, 02:02 PM
I trust your opinion...I am dead serious, I have even told friends well The Fix said that Cd ain't that good. You know your stuff...:D
thanks, ill hook you up with karma when i can :cool:

The Fix
08-02-2005, 02:05 PM
Who made it national and brought it the mainstream? Thats right.
ice t and 2 live crew had tons of contreversey(sp?, sorry i dont spell well :D ) that the news ate up, they contributed a ton to that style of music.

MetalVomit
08-02-2005, 02:11 PM
ice t and 2 live crew had tons of contreversey(sp?, sorry i dont spell well :D ) that the news ate up, they contributed a ton to that style of music.


Fix, did you DL that Everlast ****?

The Fix
08-02-2005, 02:29 PM
Fix, did you DL that Everlast ****?
no not yet, i will after i get some breakfast in me

ill be back in like 15 minutes, i have to get started on that scarface stuff cause ive been real busy lately its ridiculous

neils7147933
08-02-2005, 09:56 PM
theres a couple. "On Point"(my fav House of Pain track), "The Havenots","Word Is Bond", and "Legend" are all HOP tracks. There were a few I wanted to put on, but "Jump Around" everyone already knows, and the couple others werent as good as the other tracks I put on instead.
I browsed it quickly and didn't see On Point. That's the one I was hoping was on there from HOP...

Also glad you put Hot to Death on there.

One I like you didn't include is Get Down.

MetalVomit
08-02-2005, 10:39 PM
I browsed it quickly and didn't see On Point. That's the one I was hoping was on there from HOP...

Also glad you put Hot to Death on there.

One I like you didn't include is Get Down.


Get Down didnt survive the final cut. :)

jack_the_rippuh
08-02-2005, 11:01 PM
"Flows just grow through me
Like trees to branches
Cliffs to avalanches
it's the praying mantis
deep like the mind of Farrakhan
A mother-****in' rap phenomenon"
-Biggie Smalls

FistoftheDallasStar
08-03-2005, 02:34 AM
"Flows just grow through me
Like trees to branches
Cliffs to avalanches
it's the praying mantis
deep like the mind of Farrakhan
A mother-****in' rap phenomenon"
-Biggie Smalls

Plus
I got more glocks and tecs than you
I make it hot *****s won't even stand next to you
***** touch me
you better bust me
three times in head
till I'm mother ****in dead

That is one of my favorite tracks- Biggie and Meth rockin the mic.

BLOODSHED
08-03-2005, 03:58 AM
Big was great... hence my signature.

Subliminal Tupac diss on a hot DJ Premier track

"Your reign on the top was short like leprechauns
As I crush so-called willies, thugs, and
rapper-dons
Get in that ass, quick fast, like ramadan
Its that rap phenomenon Don-Dadda, **** Poppa
You got ta, call me, Francis M.H. White
in tank-light totes, tote iron
Was told in shootouts, stay low, and keep firin
Keep extra clips for extra ****
Who's next to flip, on that cat with that grip on
rap
The mo shady, "Tell em!", Frankie baby
Ain't no tellin where I may be
May see me in D.C. at Howard Homecomin
with my man Capone, dumbin, ****in somethin
You should know my steelo
Went from ten G's for blow to thirty G's a show
to orgies with hoes I never seen befo'
so, Jesus, get off the Notorious
penis, before I squeeze and bust
If the beef between us, we can settle it
With the chrome and metal ****
I make it hot, like a kettle get
You're delicate, you better get, who sent ya?
You still pedal ****,"

BLOODSHED
08-03-2005, 04:00 AM
I salivate sometimes thinking of what Big would have done to Tupac if he responded to Tupac's unimaginative and bland disses. He would have lynched Tupac and his career.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-03-2005, 04:18 AM
I salivate sometimes thinking of what Big would have done to Tupac if he responded to Tupac's unimaginative and bland disses. He would have lynched Tupac and his career.

Yeah, B.I.G was a rhymer that just put you in the scene he was rappin about. You felt like you were in his rhyme. I totally thought Tupac was gonna get murdered because of the many times he was shot at but I was totally shocked when Biggie turned up dead.

Tupac has a totally different style. Haha since I live in between New York and LA there are some people that still love Tupac and bump his **** all the time still to this day. I have a friend that still argues that Tupac was better than Biggie to me. If you didn't grow listening to east coast hip-hop they will never know just how good Biggie really was.

BLOODSHED
08-03-2005, 04:21 AM
Exactly... I live on the west coast. And it seems west coast rappers have this extreme animosity towards the east coast rappers. I wonder if New Yorkers feel the same about the west?

blockburna944
08-03-2005, 12:48 PM
mnash, that biggie joint you quoted was originally a freestyle i think. here is some of the biggie freestyles that i got; im not sure if theyre all authentic, but the one im talking about is near the end of the rap city freestyles. also, the video is pretty hot.
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2C5CGMS1T3B4G2M1P1321JTYCC

BLOODSHED
08-03-2005, 01:30 PM
He freestyles better than some people write. Thaks man for the note.
mnash, that biggie joint you quoted was originally a freestyle i think. here is some of the biggie freestyles that i got; im not sure if theyre all authentic, but the one im talking about is near the end of the rap city freestyles. also, the video is pretty hot.
http://s52.yousendit.com/d.php?id=2C5CGMS1T3B4G2M1P1321JTYCC

MetalVomit
08-03-2005, 04:39 PM
B.I.G. was nasty, but he get's overrated too much due to the fact that he died too soon.

neils7147933
08-03-2005, 04:43 PM
B.I.G. was nasty, but he get's overrated too much due to the fact that he died too soon.
I think his legend could be even greater if he had been killed after just that first album, which I think is the best rap album of all time.

Too much killer and way too much "Puff Daddy Dance Mix" on the second disc for me.

"Born Again" was 10x weaker than any posthumous Pac release...

MetalVomit
08-03-2005, 05:15 PM
Ready to Die is an amazing album. IMO the best Hip Hop album of all time is Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. Have you heard it Neils? I can upload it for you, but once you hear it, you'll go buy the actual album. It's that good. I was going to post a "Best of" Swollen Members folder, anyone interested?

neils7147933
08-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Ready to Die is an amazing album. IMO the best Hip Hop album of all time is Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. Have you heard it Neils? I can upload it for you, but once you hear it, you'll go buy the actual album. It's that good. I was going to post a "Best of" Swollen Members folder, anyone interested?
yeah I have that one already; I bought it shortly after it came out...

The Fix
08-03-2005, 05:57 PM
I salivate sometimes thinking of what Big would have done to Tupac if he responded to Tupac's unimaginative and bland disses. He would have lynched Tupac and his career.
"Thinkin bout, all the planes we flew......big and pac used to be tight
*****es, we ran through
Now da years new
I lay my game flat
I want my spot back, take two.... 2 pac was on the top of the charts, hense "take two" as in 2pac
Muthaf**kas mad cuz I blew, *****s envious.... hit em up made big believe tupac was envious of his success
Too many *****s on my dick, ****'s strenuous..... a bunch of westcoast artists along with pac were dissing big
When my men bust, you just move wit such stamina- gun shots fired at 2pac in new york just missed tupac
Slugs missed ya
I ain't mad at'chya"...famous tupac song - notorious big

my comments are in bold, this diss is sort of subliminal but he was def going at tupac

The Fix
08-03-2005, 05:58 PM
i have az's a.w.o.l advance promo, does any body want it?

BLOODSHED
08-03-2005, 09:08 PM
big should have gone at tupac full blast.

just think tupac sat down and wrote lyrics saying his ****ed big's *****. ooh. i never heard that before. the thing is tupac went to a special school for writing/acting/poetry and thats the best he could come up with?


"Thinkin bout, all the planes we flew......big and pac used to be tight
*****es, we ran through
Now da years new
I lay my game flat
I want my spot back, take two.... 2 pac was on the top of the charts, hense "take two" as in 2pac
Muthaf**kas mad cuz I blew, *****s envious.... hit em up made big believe tupac was envious of his success
Too many *****s on my dick, ****'s strenuous..... a bunch of westcoast artists along with pac were dissing big
When my men bust, you just move wit such stamina- gun shots fired at 2pac in new york just missed tupac
Slugs missed ya
I ain't mad at'chya"...famous tupac song - notorious big

my comments are in bold, this diss is sort of subliminal but he was def going at tupac

blockburna944
08-03-2005, 09:53 PM
this is gonna be a long post, but here goes

biggie was definitely the better lyracist, but...
in my opinion tupac had more heart and intellect. tupac starved many times growing up and his mom was constantly in and out of prison and away in general due to being a member of the black panther party. biggie didnt live great, but he went to catholic school for grade school (not saying its easier cause i went to one too and poor catholic schools are worse than poor public schools, but it shows his mom cared about his education id think) and his mom was always around. he made a conscious decision to live the thug life and sell drugs because it appealed to him. at the same time pac was getting into scraps and fighting to survive, but found an outlet to the problems at the art institute in baltimore (where he called himself mc new york and tried to intimidate b-more rappers, but anyways...). pac studied acting specifically there, and thats what he was as a rapper: an actor. he rapped about this crazy life with girls, money, drugs, and killing and made that become his actual life later on. still, at the same time he was writing incredible poetry that he didnt make public to the world and becoming increasingly aware of the situation of the world around him. most of the tracks where he really talks about that were released posthumously, but brenda's got a baby, dear mama, and others (though not lyrically eloquent) talked about a situation of living in an unglorified and unique manner which nobody with pac's popularity was doing before. i think that pac used the formulaic thug style and thug life to become popular but had deeper interests as hard. he said he would be the one to spark the mind of the person that would eventually change the world. i dont think its hard to see that he made a strategic career out of rapping (probably why so many people think its credible he faked his death) part of that strategy was to bring an understanding of real life problems to the masses, which i dont feel any rapper who achieved his level of popularity after him has done.

also, i have a feeling the beef between him and biggy (who were friends during their high school age) was either a: not nearly as serious as the wanted it to seem or b: contained serious elements that were never brought to the public's attention. just my two cents.

oh yeah, id be interested in getting that az advance and the swollen members stuff (i still havent made up my mind about them, i like a lot of their joints but monsters in the closet, the one full album i got, didnt really do it for me)

MetalVomit
08-03-2005, 10:42 PM
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2IV57X1I9QJ823JVDL1C08UA5X

The best of Swollen Members.
www.swollenmembers.com


this is one of my favorite groups. it's either a "love em or hate em" thing. Production is always on point. Lyrics are weird/odd to say the least. Nonetheless, I'm a big fan. Enjoy.

BLOODSHED
08-03-2005, 10:46 PM
Kinda off the subject, but Im just wondering what you hip hop heads think of the Game with GUnit and now after Gunit?

Do you feel the 50-Game beef was made up?

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 12:45 AM
I think I have a new favorite DJ Premier beat.

D Angelo's Devils Pie.

Any heard of it?

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 12:54 AM
Ready to Die is an amazing album. IMO the best Hip Hop album of all time is Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. Have you heard it Neils? I can upload it for you, but once you hear it, you'll go buy the actual album. It's that good. I was going to post a "Best of" Swollen Members folder, anyone interested?

Yeah, Built 4 Cuban Linx was pretty dope Godzhand. I kept that one in heavy rotation back in the day.... Heaven and Hell was my favorite song on that album. Just the grittyness of the beat the emotion on the rhyme. Ghostface and Raekwon really bounce off each other well. Damn, I'm gonna have to find that CD now.

It's hard for me to say what one record is my favorite, I have so many. Three Feet High and Rising from De la Soul was pretty dope as well. Prince Paul's beats were pretty dope on that one. He also produced Gravedigga's first and best album.
Organized Cunfusion's Extinction Agenda was dope. The beats were off the chain on that album. Of course Quest's Midnight Murauders. Damn there is too many I like to name them all.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 01:00 AM
I think I have a new favorite DJ Premier beat.

D Angelo's Devils Pie.

Any heard of it?

Oh yeah, mnash_98

"**** the slice, we want the pie
why ask why till we fry
watch us all stand in line
for a slice of the devils pie
drugs and thugs, women and wine
three or four at a time
watch them stand all in line
for a slice of the devils pie"

D'Angelo is my favorite crooner. Me and my girl went to his concert when Vodoo was released. Do you know if his new album is coming out soon? I've been waiting for it to drop for a couple of years.

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:01 AM
Yeah hes very good. Like him and Maxwell but one thing bugs me about both... 1 album over 7 years.
Oh yeah, mnash_98

"**** the slice, we want the pie
why ask why till we fry
watch us all stand in line
for a slice of the devils pie
drugs and thugs, women and wine
three or four at a time
watch them stand all in line
for a slice of the devils pie"

D'Angelo is my favorite crooner. Me and my girl went to his concert when Vodoo was released. Do you know if his new album is coming out soon? I've been waiting for it to drop for a couple of years.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 01:14 AM
MNash, I remember you saying you was from the west coast. Do you like Hiro and Del? They definately have a unique sound and I like a lot of they're older tracks. Deltron 3030 was pretty dope as well.

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:18 AM
Ive heard some songs by them... not too many.

The radio station here plays this song by Lil Rob which drives me insane now that my XM radio has been stolen, so I have to listen to local radio station.

And the radio station here plays this Usher "Burn" rip off song. Anyone know the name. Whoever did that song should be shot.

Oh, you're from Arlington. My uncle lives there and and is a civil engineer for Forth Worth. I've been there a couple of times. Its weird to me how Dallas, Forth Worth and Arlington are so near each other. I remember crossing that bridge and there was this huge boat coming. If I remember correctly, I literally peed in my pants because its one of those bridges that lift for boats to pass by.

Ah memories.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 01:30 AM
I feel your pain, I don't even bother to listen to the radio here anymore. Just a bunch of commercial driven B.S.. I'm sure I've heard someone playing that Usher song. I usually just burn a cd and listen to it in the car when I drive anywhere to avoid the radio, haha. I'll listen to sports radio sometimes, too.

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:31 AM
My dumb ass, I get real tired of CDs that I burn. So sometimes I just turn to NPR and listen to politics. Yeah radio is that bad... once you go satellite you dont go back.

blockburna944
08-04-2005, 01:32 AM
you should definitely check hiro, souls of mischief, del (thefunkyhomosapien and 3030 are the same guy); they are still some of the most creative mc's out there. i considered them along with skee-lo, pharcyde, and dj quik the best in the west for a long time. more recently, xzibit, ras kass, people under the stairs, cali agents, likwit crew, and several others are doin it, but i still think people sleep on a lot creative talent from the west.

by the way, d'angelo was one the few new soul singers i like, but you wont hear much from because hes heavy on the crack. i think hes locked up right now too.

speaking of the west, what do yall think of zion i. i just copped true & livin, which is a solid album, if not a classic. amp-live's production always seems to be real solid and creative, if youve heard all 3 albums, you can definitely hear the evolution of his beats. i think zion's flow is pretty crazy too, and he seems to talk about real down to earth stuff for the most part. what do yall think, or have you heard much of them?

neils7147933
08-04-2005, 01:33 AM
Kinda off the subject, but Im just wondering what you hip hop heads think of the Game with GUnit and now after Gunit?

Do you feel the 50-Game beef was made up?

The fact that you want to talk about G-Unit more or less disqualifies your credibility discussing Biggie & Pac...lol

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:36 AM
No, Im just curious about the Game. I dont like him at all, but I read everywhere and see people crediting his lyrics? I dont see whats so good.

neils7147933
08-04-2005, 01:40 AM
I think the Game is very average. His first album is him kissing the ass of all the rappers he likes; who namedrops like that on a first studio album? And then presumes to be an equal? From the cover to the last second of that disc, he's at it. There's a couple decent songs, but I think I spent like 40 million BoxingScene points to get a copy of that the week it came out and I gave too much. So much for all the hype...

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:45 AM
Very much the hype... things I dont like...

Game got dissed by a woman on change of heart tv show. He wanted to stay with the girl and she wanted to leave him. He got played.

Was a former male stripper.

Gay ass butterfly tattoo on his cheek.

Mentioning everyone... not much to talk about.

Then 50 says he gave Game all those tracks.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 01:49 AM
you should definitely check hiro, souls of mischief, del (thefunkyhomosapien and 3030 are the same guy); they are still some of the most creative mc's out there. i considered them along with skee-lo, pharcyde, and dj quik the best in the west for a long time. more recently, xzibit, ras kass, people under the stairs, cali agents, likwit crew, and several others are doin it, but i still think people sleep on a lot creative talent from the west.

by the way, d'angelo was one the few new soul singers i like, but you wont hear much from because hes heavy on the crack. i think hes locked up right now too.

speaking of the west, what do yall think of zion i. i just copped true & livin, which is a solid album, if not a classic. amp-live's production always seems to be real solid and creative, if youve heard all 3 albums, you can definitely hear the evolution of his beats. i think zion's flow is pretty crazy too, and he seems to talk about real down to earth stuff for the most part. what do yall think, or have you heard much of them?

Naw, I haven't heard Zion. I'll try to check him out. Yeah, Hiro, Del and Souls are one of my favs as well. I heard Del is set to release a follow up to Deltron 3030. I'm lookin forward to that one.

neils7147933
08-04-2005, 01:50 AM
I liked "In Da Club"

After that, I really haven't liked much of anything that the top-selling rap artist has put out. And I like a lot of pop stuff. It's not that he's "turned pop". Nothing off his new album is worth listening to; it sounds like an effortless collection of B-sides.

I liked the 50 Cent and the Game remix with Mary J. I heard today on the way to class; usually when 50 comes on the radio, though, I'm switching the dial. I'd rather hear one of these girls who sings in a pop rock band than listen to "just a little bit". Really - who buys this ****?

neils7147933
08-04-2005, 01:51 AM
Naw, I haven't heard Zion. I'll try to check him out. Yeah, Hiro, Del and Souls are one of my favs as well. I heard Del is set to release a follow up to Deltron 3030. I'm lookin forward to that one.
Haven't heard Del since his second album, when I was in like the 11th grade...

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:53 AM
How old are you?

MetalVomit
08-04-2005, 01:53 AM
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=251B08V02B6KT0WCIR5QVTVAD

"say what? Oh yeah."

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 01:55 AM
Whose this Godzhand?

blockburna944
08-04-2005, 01:58 AM
zion i is definitely worth a listen.
everybody kind of forgot about del, but i read in an interview that came out not long after 3030 that he was studying advanced music classes at an art school. he was talking about various composition techniques with chord patterns and stuff like that, so hopefully hell selfproduce a couple tracks on his new lp. i think hes still one of the most creative mcs out there.

neils7147933
08-04-2005, 02:04 AM
How old are you?

27 years old...

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 02:04 AM
Haven't heard Del since his second album, when I was in like the 11th grade...

Yeah he is still going strong. Especially Deltron 3030 if you haven't listened to it, Neils it's a must own. It was released about 3 years ago. The concept of the alblum is dope. It's different so be prepared, but I like MC's that go against the grain and change up their styles.

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 02:07 AM
what does that mean in your signature Fistofthe Dallas star? the symbols?

neils7147933
08-04-2005, 02:08 AM
Yeah he is still going strong. Especially Deltron 3030 if you haven't listened to it, Neils it's a must own. It was released about 3 years ago. The concept of the alblum is dope. It's different so be prepared, but I like MC's that go against the grain and change up their styles.

The only Del album I have that survived my teen year selling-to-CD-stores-for-2-bucks-a-pop-to-buy-new-discs phase, to multiple change of addresses, is I wish my brother george was here. And the case to that second disc...lol

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 02:11 AM
what does that mean in your signature Fistofthe Dallas star? the symbols?

I got the name from the manga movie "Fist of the North Star". I just added a little twist to it since I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan. The symbols read: MOFLOW it's my sound production name.

FistoftheDallasStar
08-04-2005, 02:18 AM
The only Del album I have that survived my teen year selling-to-CD-stores-for-2-bucks-a-pop-to-buy-new-discs phase, to multiple change of addresses, is I wish my brother george was here. And the case to that second disc...lol

He has changed up his style so much since those early records you probably wont recognize it. I used to bump those too, haha. Go to HIRO's website (http://www.hieroglyphics.com/) and check out del's new songs. It's a well made website. They have still have a strong underground following.

MetalVomit
08-04-2005, 06:58 PM
Kinda off the subject, but Im just wondering what you hip hop heads think of the Game with GUnit and now after Gunit?

Do you feel the 50-Game beef was made up?


50 is ass. Game is ass. G-Unit is ass. Mobb Deep is going to ruin themselves by joining G-Unit, Prodigy already has a head start, considering he's been rhyming wack on everything since H.N.I.C. M.O.P. should be just fine though.

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 07:00 PM
50s ass. Game is 50s *******.

mic573
08-04-2005, 07:10 PM
50 is ass. Game is ass. G-Unit is ass. Mobb Deep is going to ruin themselves by joining G-Unit, Prodigy already has a head start, considering he's been rhyming wack on everything since H.N.I.C. M.O.P. should be just fine though.

When did M.O.P join G-unit?

BLOODSHED
08-04-2005, 07:15 PM
Recently... to a lot of fans they sold out with the song featuring 112. If that didnt do it, the signing to GUnit definately was the nail in the coffin.

trinidadpr87
08-04-2005, 07:32 PM
Question here:Who is that woman on the couch with the remote in young jeezy's video and then what.She is one nice piece of ass. :luvbed:

MetalVomit
08-04-2005, 11:02 PM
http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=25RVOD8BCEO4D2OE0QQ887XZEK

The Best of LL Cool J

The Fix
08-05-2005, 03:11 PM
When did M.O.P join G-unit?
a little before mobb deep did, they left dame dash cause he wasnt dropping thier album

MetalVomit
08-05-2005, 06:02 PM
a little before mobb deep did, they left dame dash cause he wasnt dropping thier album


Man, I need a non mixtape version of that "Ground Zero" by M.O.P. it was supposed to be on their Roc debut, but obviously that never happened. ****in' sux, that song is ri-dic-u-lous.

The Fix
08-06-2005, 02:50 PM
Man, I need a non mixtape version of that "Ground Zero" by M.O.P. it was supposed to be on their Roc debut, but obviously that never happened. ****in' sux, that song is ri-dic-u-lous.
me too, i hate those mixtape versions.

i liked police in helicopter by m.o.p with wyclef but the only version i found was a mixtape one.

Truth
08-06-2005, 03:45 PM
50s ass. Game is 50s *******.

50 is an *******, The Game is a breath of fresh air in my opinion. Game's word play and style is original...I think he is good for hip-hop. GGGGGGUUUUNOOOT! :D :cool:

oldgringo
08-08-2005, 01:34 AM
back *****es...get at me

blockburna944
08-08-2005, 02:04 AM
hey godzhand, i gotta version of ground zero but im not sure if its the mixtape or not. theres no dj yelling over it and its not censored; what was it about the mixtape version that ruined the song?

MetalVomit
08-08-2005, 04:57 PM
hey godzhand, i gotta version of ground zero but im not sure if its the mixtape or not. theres no dj yelling over it and its not censored; what was it about the mixtape version that ruined the song?


I just cant stand them loudmouth ****ing dj's screaming "exclusive" or whatever the **** while I'm trying to hear the song. Can you post that ?

The Fix
08-08-2005, 05:41 PM
I just cant stand them loudmouth ****ing dj's screaming "exclusive" or whatever the **** while I'm trying to hear the song. Can you post that ?
i hate that ****, especially kay slay, clue,and absolute,

BLOODSHED
08-08-2005, 07:25 PM
Me too when Im downloading off limewire and i hear DJ yelling at the beginning of songs, I then cancel the download. I had to go through like 15 songs to get Lloyd Banks' "Warrior".

Also, besides the yelling, the stupid bombs dropping in the background of the song is annoying.

blockburna944
08-08-2005, 08:08 PM
yea i cant stand that **** either. clue is the worst followed closely by any hot97 track, kay slay, or funk flex. here's the copy i got, its free of all that ****.

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EUXQZL38M2882DHAL39EJRQQ3

BLOODSHED
08-08-2005, 08:14 PM
Kay Slay is a dick and hes seriously like 50 years old too.

Atwa_66
08-09-2005, 12:39 AM
I just cant stand them loudmouth ****ing dj's screaming "exclusive" or whatever the **** while I'm trying to hear the song. Can you post that ?
That is the most annoying **** ever......
DJ Mike, whoever the hell that is
Is always on songs I download, I just cancel them
He's so annoying, he does DMX, Game, and Jadakiss songs

BLOODSHED
08-09-2005, 12:44 AM
Heard DJ Whoo Kid.... He says whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddddddddddd. ANNOYING.

Atwa_66
08-09-2005, 01:09 AM
Heard DJ Whoo Kid.... He says whooooooooooooooooooooooooooo kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddddddddddddddddd. ANNOYING.
The dude "DJ MIKE" is always like "FAT JA....MAH N!GGA D, N!GGA D!" I don't understand why they do that, and it's always that annoying ass echo too

Truth
08-09-2005, 09:34 AM
What about Funkmaster Flex? Hes pretty good...

MetalVomit
08-09-2005, 11:36 AM
yea i cant stand that **** either. clue is the worst followed closely by any hot97 track, kay slay, or funk flex. here's the copy i got, its free of all that ****.

http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2EUXQZL38M2882DHAL39EJRQQ3


100000.00 points donated to blockburna944 successfully!
I gave you some karma too. Man, I've been dying for a non dj version of this. Thank's a ton. DJ's need to just shut the **** up and spin that ****. :)

BLOODSHED
08-09-2005, 02:18 PM
Funk Flex is annoying and very full of himself. He's still not a big of a dick as Kay Slay but still.
What about Funkmaster Flex? Hes pretty good...

MetalVomit
08-09-2005, 02:18 PM
Funk Flex is annoying and very full of himself. He's still not a big of a dick as Kay Slay but still.


all dj's need to shut the **** up


Immortal Technique f/Chuck D and KRS-ONE-Bin Lanen remix

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ISV7X0ZG2D9R033R4M86JCKQ4

The Fix
08-10-2005, 05:33 PM
damn im listeming to the infamous and i just listened to hnic and prodigy fell off like something ive never seen or heard before. that new song with 50 was the wackest **** ive heard since tony yayo.

Truth
08-10-2005, 05:42 PM
damn im listeming to the infamous and i just listened to hnic and prodigy fell off like something ive never seen or heard before. that new song with 50 was the wackest **** ive heard since tony yayo.

Mobb Deep has went down hill but I thought Americaz Nightmare was decent.

MetalVomit
08-10-2005, 05:58 PM
damn im listeming to the infamous and i just listened to hnic and prodigy fell off like something ive never seen or heard before. that new song with 50 was the wackest **** ive heard since tony yayo.


I know man, it's crazy. Maybe that sickle cell finally caught up with him.

Truth
08-10-2005, 06:37 PM
Is Mike Jones's album any good? I like still tippin but I bet the rest is garbage.

Dirt E Gomez
08-10-2005, 06:40 PM
Is Mike Jones's album any good? I like still tippin but I bet the rest is garbage.

Just one more hyped rapper who probably has to have his album exec's pay off DJ's to play him on the radio. His stuff is mediocre at best. Don't waste your money.

{BrownBomber}
08-10-2005, 06:42 PM
Did any of you guys ever like DJ MAJIC MIKE? I used to hear his **** when I was like 13, a couple of months I remembered and bought a cd. That **** bumps hard in my car and I think his mixing is pretty ****ing good.Has decent lyrics in a couple of songs.I heard he uses 4 turn tables!

Truth
08-10-2005, 06:43 PM
Is this album any good?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001Y4J.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

mic573
08-10-2005, 06:52 PM
Is this album any good?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001Y4J.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

From what I hear the only song good on there is Phone Tap.

Truth
08-10-2005, 06:57 PM
http://s46.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=29SNI5CBIFSCG3GH5IP33FS0HT

Roy Jones Jr. And Lil' Flip from Body Head Bangerz Vol. 1...
Chorus sucks but the track is catchy... :cool:

MetalVomit
08-10-2005, 06:58 PM
Is this album any good?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001Y4J.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg


There are about 3 decent songs, very mediocre album.

The Fix
08-10-2005, 07:07 PM
the firm was a major let down but im kinda glad it flopped after the way nas did cormega

The Fix
08-10-2005, 07:10 PM
I know man, it's crazy. Maybe that sickle cell finally caught up with him.
either that or he just stopped trying

The Fix
08-10-2005, 07:11 PM
Is Mike Jones's album any good? I like still tippin but I bet the rest is garbage.

mike jones = pure ass

i have to respect that dudes hustle though, he got a million people to buy that piece of trash

Truth
08-10-2005, 07:13 PM
I am downloading the best of Rakim from Godzhand...what should I expect?I don't listen to Rakim that much... :o

The Fix
08-10-2005, 07:18 PM
I am downloading the best of Rakim from Godzhand...what should I expect?I don't listen to Rakim that much... :o
rakims the goat, expect some classic old school rap...

plus rakims flow was insane and his lyrics were always on point

Truth
08-10-2005, 07:41 PM
I am listening to it now...

Truth
08-10-2005, 07:52 PM
This is great stuff thanks Godzhand...Rakim is nasty:cool:

MetalVomit
08-11-2005, 02:36 AM
"i'm pushin' powerfull punishment prepare to be a prisoner"

FistoftheDallasStar
08-11-2005, 04:44 AM
Is this album any good?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000001Y4J.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

I bought the record when it came out and wasn't impressed by it. It was very forgetable.

neils7147933
08-11-2005, 11:41 PM
I bought the record when it came out and wasn't impressed by it. It was very forgetable.
I liked it the first time thru with its mob theme. It doesn't really hold up to repeat listening though. I like Firm Biz and Phone Tap, though...

MetalVomit
08-12-2005, 12:03 AM
I liked it the first time thru with its mob theme. It doesn't really hold up to repeat listening though. I like Firm Biz and Phone Tap, though...

Phone Tap is very dope, other than that, i'd give it 3 mics out 5. Very lackluster.

BLOODSHED
08-12-2005, 12:37 AM
A complete waste of talent if you ask me. I mean they had Dre as executive producer, Nas, Az and Foxy Brown who was the it girl at the time and they used that over-played Teena Marie sample from her song "Square Biz." That beat and the Luniz's beat(I know its not their beat) have been taken WAY too much in rap.
Phone Tap is very dope, other than that, i'd give it 3 mics out 5. Very lackluster.

neils7147933
08-12-2005, 01:03 AM
so there's three in the group and they just leave Spinderella's name out. couldn't they have found another spice name or maybe all been peppercorns and they could have named themselves after the shade they resembled the closest?

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9967/snp0vi.jpg

MetalVomit
08-12-2005, 07:07 PM
The 3 disc Prince mix is on it's way......................

BLOODSHED
08-12-2005, 07:11 PM
Great! When is should be expect it. Updating my ipod, I just happened to add Call My Name by Prince!

MetalVomit
08-12-2005, 07:15 PM
Great! When is should be expect it. Updating my ipod, I just happened to add Call My Name by Prince!


by the end of the night. no doubt. starting the thread soon, but I gotta upload them. I can put any one of these cd's in my deck and just play the whole thing. Prince=untouchable.

BLOODSHED
08-12-2005, 07:16 PM
If he wasnt so weird, people would love him as much as Michael.

MetalVomit
08-12-2005, 07:20 PM
If he wasnt so weird, people would love him as much as Michael.


he, he's a weird dude, and I know everyone loves MJ. I do too. However, I dont think you could put together a 3 disc set of MJ material to rival this mix that I personally made. Prince just outhustled Mike as far as the amount of quality material released. I will do the same thing with MJ, but it will likely be a 2 disc set.

BLOODSHED
08-12-2005, 07:25 PM
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh. I dont know. Michael has been making music since the Jackson 5. Even the Jackson 5 stuff gets sampled today like JayZ "H to the Izzo". Michael peaked in the 80s if you ask me.

Prince is still making good, solid music.
he, he's a weird dude, and I know everyone loves MJ. I do too. However, I dont think you could put together a 3 disc set of MJ material to rival this mix that I personally made. Prince just outhustled Mike as far as the amount of quality material released. I will do the same thing with MJ, but it will likely be a 2 disc set.

MetalVomit
08-13-2005, 12:38 AM
that Prince cd is going to have to wait until tomorrow. I was drunk tonight. lol. tomorrow for sure.

The Fix
08-13-2005, 04:25 AM
who you guys got? mega or Az

imo cormega is on another level, even higher than nasty nas....

The Fix
08-13-2005, 04:26 AM
http://www.garyspector.com/Gary%20Web%20Site%20Data/Musicweb/Cormega.jpg

BLOODSHED
08-13-2005, 04:34 AM
AZ up there lyrically, charisma wise... another story.

Nothing against Coremega.
who you guys got? mega or Az

imo cormega is on another level, even higher than nasty nas....

The Fix
08-13-2005, 04:36 AM
AZ up there lyrically, charisma wise... another story.

Nothing against Coremega.
cormega is a beast, imo he is top 5 doing it right now

BLOODSHED
08-13-2005, 04:37 AM
Yes, he's nice on the mic. But he should be doing something with his skill like selling records, but hey the radio likes 50 cent and Candy shop now.

:(

The Fix
08-13-2005, 04:41 AM
Yes, he's nice on the mic. But he should be doing something with his skill like selling records, but hey the radio likes 50 cent and Candy shop now.

:(

too bad real hip hop fans are hard to find, "if lyrics sold he probably be just and rich and famous as jay-z" - talib kweli

BLOODSHED
08-13-2005, 04:43 AM
I know 50s taking over with "catchy" songs with no meaning. Like Fat Joe said isnt Candy Shop just a remix of Magic Stick with lil kim.

By the way I have Joey Cracks back in that feud.
too bad real hip hop fans are hard to find, "if lyrics sold he probably be just and rich and famous as jay-z" - talib kweli

BLOODSHED
08-13-2005, 04:54 AM
These directors have cool videos:
http://www.salineproject.com/

amat2to0
08-13-2005, 05:26 AM
The thread is 123 pages so I can't keep up with everythin so I will post randomly

My favorite rappers are

Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Common
Joe Budden
A Tribe Called Quest
Jay Z
Scarface
Nas
Tupac
RUN DMC
Dr. Dre
Eazy E
KRS - One
Big L
Mobb Deep
Em (Old Em, pre Eminem Show)
Rakim
Lord Finesse
Slick Rick
The Roots
E-40
Juelz Santana

Theres more but thats the main.

My favorite underground/yet to blow artist are:

Papoose
Spider LOC (Maybe he'll revive G Unit along with Mobb Deep)
Omega 7
Saigon
Cory Gunz
Frontline
DZK
Murda Mook
Royce 5'9
Stack Bundles
MacReese
Lyrics Born

The mainstream is hurtin right now, hurtin bad. I'm scared to even turn on MTV.

oldgringo
08-13-2005, 02:04 PM
who you guys got? mega or Az

imo cormega is on another level, even higher than nasty nas....


AZ better than both and been paying dues longer than Mega. 1/5 of Megas **** is about how Nas stepped on his toes and "doesn't come around the block no more".

AZ is better on the mic and his body of work is much better as well. Mega has nothing that even approaches Doe or Die.

I also can't see anything that Mega has brought that is unique to the game in terms of his flow or otherwise. Nobody has that smooth triple cadence flow like AZ.

Also off that last effort, 62 pickup and coco butter weren't even his beats.

The Fix
08-13-2005, 05:51 PM
AZ better than both and been paying dues longer than Mega. 1/5 of Megas **** is about how Nas stepped on his toes and "doesn't come around the block no more".

AZ is better on the mic and his body of work is much better as well. Mega has nothing that even approaches Doe or Die.

I also can't see anything that Mega has brought that is unique to the game in terms of his flow or otherwise. Nobody has that smooth triple cadence flow like AZ.

Also off that last effort, 62 pickup and coco butter weren't even his beats.
i like the realness and the true meaning better than doe or die.

btw the testament was supposed to be his debut album, def jam shelved it even after he was released from there. if you ask me that **** was fire for a first album...

also cormega has a great flow, it may not be as good as az's but its nothing to laugh at...

The Fix
08-13-2005, 05:53 PM
The thread is 123 pages so I can't keep up with everythin so I will post randomly

My favorite rappers are

Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Common
Joe Budden
A Tribe Called Quest
Jay Z
Scarface
Nas
Tupac
RUN DMC
Dr. Dre
Eazy E
KRS - One
Big L
Mobb Deep
Em (Old Em, pre Eminem Show)
Rakim
Lord Finesse
Slick Rick
The Roots
E-40
Juelz Santana

Theres more but thats the main.

My favorite underground/yet to blow artist are:

Papoose
Spider LOC (Maybe he'll revive G Unit along with Mobb Deep)
Omega 7
Saigon
Cory Gunz
Frontline
DZK
Murda Mook
Royce 5'9
Stack Bundles
MacReese
Lyrics Born

The mainstream is hurtin right now, hurtin bad. I'm scared to even turn on MTV.
nice list. i dont like all of them but its a pretty solid list.
i cant wait for the nacareima(sp?) dream

BLOODSHED
08-13-2005, 06:02 PM
Dont care for Budden.

Saigon has Just Blaze backing him!
nice list. i dont like all of them but its a pretty solid list.
i cant wait for the nacareima(sp?) dream

The Fix
08-13-2005, 06:07 PM
Dont care for Budden.

Saigon has Just Blaze backing him!
saigon is tight but that dude is asking for his career to be held up early after talking all that **** about eminem, im no fan of ems but he could end saigons career at this stage of it.

MetalVomit
08-13-2005, 06:07 PM
i like the realness and the true meaning better than doe or die.

btw the testament was supposed to be his debut album, def jam shelved it even after he was released from there. if you ask me that **** was fire for a first album...

also cormega has a great flow, it may not be as good as az's but its nothing to laugh at...


I think Mega, AZ and Nas are all dope as ****, but as far as skill, i think it goes

1.Nas
2.AZ
3.Cormega

all 3 are in my top 15 fav. MC's, so it's hard to pick. Fix, are you on the allhiphop.com message board

The Fix
08-13-2005, 06:11 PM
I think Mega, AZ and Nas are all dope as ****, but as far as skill, i think it goes

1.Nas
2.AZ
3.Cormega

all 3 are in my top 15 fav. MC's, so it's hard to pick. Fix, are you on the allhiphop.com message board
no, why? are you?

MetalVomit
08-13-2005, 06:13 PM
no, why? are you?


Yes, you should peep it, it's called the ill community. www.allhiphop.com there are some straight up ignorant children on there though, so you gotta search for good discussions.

oldgringo
08-13-2005, 06:13 PM
i like the realness and the true meaning better than doe or die.

btw the testament was supposed to be his debut album, def jam shelved it even after he was released from there. if you ask me that **** was fire for a first album...

also cormega has a great flow, it may not be as good as az's but its nothing to laugh at...


Doe or Die:

Sugar Hill (anthem in its day)
Gimme Yours
Ho Happy Jackie (my favorite AZ track...better than any Nas/Mega track IMO)
Mo Money Mo Murder
Rather Unique

All gems and 10/10 classics on one CD. AZ kills Buckwilds beat on HHJ.

check it, this one jamaican wasn't fakin' wit the bacon
cuz ever since him, she was on if i'm not mistaken
but then again, this money gettin' dominican
caught her when she was fallin' off, & made her win again
now nothin' can stop it, once she in a ***** pocket
she be seein' more profit, than those livest weed spots get
makin' her income & then some
cuz even a weddin' band on her hand, won't stop a man who wanna spend
some
diamonds, & furs is all she want, that damned glamour girl
lovin' it, out there clubbin' it, dancin' like one of hammer girls
happy jackie the jigga hoe
her job is to jack *****s doe, i call jackie the jack a ***** pro

That ^^^ bolded verse is unreal...AZ is dat dude.

BLOODSHED
08-13-2005, 06:16 PM
Well at least he isnt back down from blondie. Taking on Em or 50 can be death (Royce, Ja)
saigon is tight but that dude is asking for his career to be held up early after talking all that **** about eminem, im no fan of ems but he could end saigons career at this stage of it.

The Fix
08-13-2005, 06:17 PM
Yes, you should peep it, it's called the ill community. www.allhiphop.com there are some straight up ignorant children on there though, so you gotta search for good discussions.
on occasion ill look at it for some news but their threads are like jeezy= god and nas/jay-z won the beef


i might join however......

The Fix
08-13-2005, 06:18 PM
Doe or Die:

Sugar Hill (anthem in its day)
Gimme Yours
Ho Happy Jackie (my favorite AZ track...better than any Nas/Mega track IMO)
Mo Money Mo Murder
Rather Unique

All gems and 10/10 classics on one CD. AZ kills Buckwilds beat on HHJ.

check it, this one jamaican wasn't fakin' wit the bacon
cuz ever since him, she was on if i'm not mistaken
but then again, this money gettin' dominican
caught her when she was fallin' off, & made her win again
now nothin' can stop it, once she in a ***** pocket
she be seein' more profit, than those livest weed spots get
makin' her income & then some
cuz even a weddin' band on her hand, won't stop a man who wanna spend
some
diamonds, & furs is all she want, that damned glamour girl
lovin' it, out there clubbin' it, dancin' like one of hammer girls
happy jackie the jigga hoe
her job is to jack *****s doe, i call jackie the jack a ***** pro

That ^^^ bolded verse is unreal...AZ is dat dude.
i have nothing against az but mega has got him beat imo

The Fix
08-13-2005, 06:20 PM
hey GH whats your name on there, ill sign up later tonight( in like 8 or so hours cause i going to shower now and hopefully get some ***** later on tonight........)

oldgringo
08-13-2005, 06:22 PM
i have nothing against az but mega has got him beat imo


AZ > Tim Duncan

The Fix
08-13-2005, 06:24 PM
AZ > Tim Duncan
cormega> Az > tim duncan > the pistons :D

oldgringo
08-13-2005, 06:29 PM
cormega> Az > tim duncan > the pistons :D


Darko Milicic > Cormega

MetalVomit
08-13-2005, 06:39 PM
hey GH whats your name on there, ill sign up later tonight( in like 8 or so hours cause i going to shower now and hopefully get some ***** later on tonight........)


my name on there is God'z Hand. I usually only post in "The Reason" room.

The Fix
08-14-2005, 04:16 AM
Darko Milicic > Cormega
mike jones/ tony yayo's flow > darko

oldgringo
08-14-2005, 03:21 PM
mike jones/ tony yayo's flow > darko


Lil Flip Saunders > Greg Poppovich

The Fix
08-14-2005, 05:09 PM
Lil Flip Saunders > Greg Poppovich

having the knicks payroll > haviing flip sauders as coach

The Fix
08-14-2005, 05:35 PM
did anybody else hear that rakim might sign to kweli's new label? that **** would be insane

BLOODSHED
08-14-2005, 05:38 PM
Ive just heard about Kweli's new label. He seems like a smart man, I wouldnt be surprised if he makes something good of it.

MetalVomit
08-14-2005, 06:00 PM
did anybody else hear that rakim might sign to kweli's new label? that **** would be insane


Good, maybe he'll drop an album before the year 3000 :(

Sir_Jose
08-14-2005, 08:49 PM
Opions needs please. My boy from Boxingscene send me this stuff from Houston after I clowned him about the whole Mike Jones thing.

He says these guys are whats really blowing Houston up.

What you guys think? You think they can do some things?

Close Range Killas - (TVS & Psckitzo) - 7 Shots
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=29AFGUJO035LX19A2U1DD8ZSYX

Close Range Killas - (TVS & Psckitzo) - We Don't Hold Back
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=32SV1PI6OQHBT1B7DFDO4PLXFV


Close Range Killas - (TVS & Psckitzo) - Slick Talkers
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1KFYUOBDP8GDE0RU3038LRH2LT

Close Range - (TVS & Psckitzo) - We Can't Be Stopped
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2K2FUK38JUC6K1A9HATKUQB0XA

Butta ft. TVS (C.R.K) - Ghetto Diamond
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1N46579R9LXAC29W21RSIZWK9V

Close Range Killas (TVS & Psckitzo & 6.8.) - Playa s--t
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=17Q9W78OAZGIE2L8U9NVFIAHD2

BLOODSHED
08-14-2005, 08:58 PM
I listened to the Ghetto Diamond song... pure GARBAGE.

Sir_Jose
08-14-2005, 09:14 PM
I listened to the Ghetto Diamond song... pure GARBAGE.


and the others....

BLOODSHED
08-14-2005, 09:19 PM
Let me listen. Im downloading or trying to find good pop up blockers for Firefox. I will write soon.

BLOODSHED
08-14-2005, 09:29 PM
Playa ****'s beat isnt bad. Dont like the flow and the gangsta voice of the rappers. I dont think it sounds like his natural voice like that guy with the EAST SIDE Boyz.

Then they ripped that beat from Camp-Lo for their song Slick Talkers. They should not have ripped that, it was a rap classic.

Overall: I've heard worse. I've heard better. The beats are decent but nothing sticks out to me.