Everything Hip-Hop [Archive] - Page 2

The Fix

06-09-2005, 12:48 PM

Rap-A-Lot - Hittin Hard in 05, upcoming album releases, including a collaboration album from Tupac and Scarface....

UTP- Juvenile,Wacko,Skip "Nolia Clap" - in stores now!
Geto Boys - "The Foundation" - in stores now!

Pimp-C "The Sweet James Jones Stories" - in stores now!

Z-RO "Let the Truth Be Told" - in stores now!

Dirty "Hood Stories"- coming soon!

Partners n Crime "Club Bangaz" - coming soon!

Devin the Dude -new album-coming soon"

Do or Die -new album- Coming Soon!

Scarface - "Black Code"- Coming Soon!

Yukmouth - "Million Dollar Mouth Piece" -coming soon!

Scarface - "My Homies II" (compilation)- Coming Soon!

2 Pac / Scarface- "2 Face" - Coming Soon! (All new unreleased tracks!)

took this while i was checkin out the forums at allhiphop.com for some news....... its gonna become a reality..... i cant wait for this, all new material from scarface and tupac :eek:
this aint blends, this **** was actually recored between the two while in studio.

Atwa_66

06-09-2005, 03:05 PM

Does anybody here have any interest in Cash Money Records, or any of their rappers? Juvenile, Lil' Wayne, Hot Boyz?

The Fix

06-09-2005, 05:45 PM

Does anybody here have any interest in Cash Money Records, or any of their rappers? Juvenile, Lil' Wayne, Hot Boyz?
i like juve, not really a fan of wayne....

Truth

06-09-2005, 05:48 PM

I don't like cash money...well I like money just not the record label. To commercial for me...

sonofisis

06-10-2005, 12:15 AM

Lil wayne is coo tho..............

neils7147933

06-10-2005, 12:26 AM

God, the Black Eyed Peas suck.

Best Buy commercials?
Apparently they're using their lyric-writing time to shoot side projects...

oldgringo

06-10-2005, 01:23 AM

I love Juve...

Manny Fresh is one of the best producers of the last 8-9 years or so...

Atwa_66

06-10-2005, 01:38 AM

God, the Black Eyed Peas suck.

Best Buy commercials?
Apparently they're using their lyric-writing time to shoot side projects...
I agree, they are terrible.

On a side note: It'd be nice to see The Hot Boys come out with another album soon, they haven't done anything in awhile. People that don't listen to them you have to hear these songs, you'll probably like them. Most of them are in some way associated with Juvenile:
-Respect my mind
-Too hot
-HA (remix)
-Bling Bling
-On Fire

The Fix

06-10-2005, 01:40 AM

no one ever mentions mike deans production, he has a lot of hot **** he has done for rapalot

Atwa_66

06-10-2005, 01:42 AM

Atwa_66

06-10-2005, 01:45 AM

Anybody into the Big Tymers?

neils7147933

06-10-2005, 01:49 AM

Good to see everyone is a fan of Juvenile. If I had to say one rap album you had to buy, out of everyone album on the market, I would definitely say 400 Degreez. That is a great album, I'm sure alot of you own it already.
it's okay.

Out of the rap "sub-genres", I think the Dirty South rap is my least favorite. To me, that includes any disc with the word "crunk" in a song title...

The Fix

06-10-2005, 01:50 AM

Good to see everyone is a fan of Juvenile. If I had to say one rap album you had to buy, out of everyone album on the market, I would definitely say 400 Degreez. That is a great album, I'm sure alot of you own it already.
is that still possible? turk shot some police and is going to jail for a long ass time is what ive heard. bg had some dispute with baby, so i doubt he is on board. i also heard juve left cash money for universal. wayne is still around....

http://allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=2807
^^^^ read this one, TURK IS CRAZY :eek:

http://allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3330
^^^^ this one says juve left and is on atlantic
anything is possible but id say the chances of a hot boys studio album is not very good.

The Fix

06-10-2005, 01:52 AM

it's okay.

Out of the rap "sub-genres", I think the Dirty South rap is my least favorite. To me, that includes any disc with the word "crunk" in a song title...

i hate crunk.... its pure ass but i do like southern rap.

oldgringo

06-10-2005, 01:52 AM

I really only like Juve and Manny Fresh. They are the only guys I find intruiging of the whole lot.

Wayne has a few tracks I like (Lights Out, Shine, Fly Nicca, Earthquake) but thats about it. I could care less for BG...

roberson2u

06-10-2005, 03:23 AM

ya all rapalot ever needed was some decent promotion...they had everything else

no one ever mentions mike deans production, he has a lot of hot **** he has done for rapalot

The Fix

06-10-2005, 03:54 PM

ya all rapalot ever needed was some decent promotion...they had everything else
j.prince doesnt promote anything....

The Fix

06-10-2005, 10:44 PM

does any one here mix there own music? or create there own beats?
if so could you recomend a program or somethin, i have accapellas and instrumentals just waiting......

Truth

06-10-2005, 11:21 PM

After getting hooked to the new Common cd BE, I was wondering what other Common albums are worth owning? I like his style of rap...its good for a change.

The Fix

06-10-2005, 11:24 PM

After getting hooked to the new Common cd BE, I was wondering what other Common albums are worth owning? I like his style of rap...its good for a change.
grab em all well except maybe electric circus, it was kinda weak

Truth

06-10-2005, 11:29 PM

grab em all well except maybe electric circus, it was kinda weak

Thanks, I will probably just download them. But BE was definitley worth buying. I bought that today...

oldgringo

06-10-2005, 11:32 PM

After getting hooked to the new Common cd BE, I was wondering what other Common albums are worth owning? I like his style of rap...its good for a change.

I'd cop them in this order...

Resurrection (Best hip hop album ever IMO)

Like Water For Chocolate (6th Sense, Dooinit, Thelonius)

One Day It'll All Make Sense (GOD, Retrospect for Life)

Can I Borrow a Dollar? (Old school Common, older rhymestyle)

Eletric Circus (He tried to get way too experimental here)

Truth

06-10-2005, 11:38 PM

I'd cop them in this order...

Resurrection (Best hip hop album ever IMO)

Like Water For Chocolate (6th Sense, Dooinit, Thelonius)

One Day It'll All Make Sense (GOD, Retrospect for Life)

Can I Borrow a Dollar? (Old school Common, older rhymestyle)

Eletric Circus (He tried to get way too experimental here)

Thanks for the advice... :cool:

masterdirector

06-11-2005, 01:41 AM

Apparently SlipX is ducking me. On a ****ing internet battlerap, on a boxing forum too, lol. And I'm not even saying I'm very good or anything, cause I'm not. Umm...I'll put something in my sig about him I guess. That should get his attention.

MetalVomit

06-11-2005, 11:56 AM

"The kid's the dawg, everbody dyin' no lyin'.."

-The Greatest Rapper of all time.

Greatest Rapper of all time=Rakim

MetalVomit

06-11-2005, 11:57 AM

oldgringo

06-11-2005, 11:59 AM

Greatest Rapper of all time=Rakim

ding ding ding we have a winner...

neils7147933

06-11-2005, 12:01 PM

ding ding ding we have a winner...
Depends on your criteria. Rakim doesn't have nearly as many albums as other active rappers, who are at a handicap if you're judging entire bodies of work.

Truthfully, though, I haven't heard a full Rakim album since the one with "Don't Sweat the Technique" on it. That's been a while...

MetalVomit

06-11-2005, 12:01 PM

ding ding ding we have a winner...

Check it, if Rakim did a song,an introspective song with a laid back Neptunes beat, with Prince on the hook...how dope would that be? Heavenly dope.

neils7147933

06-11-2005, 12:04 PM

I'll see how The Fix and oldgringo and atwa judge my rap "freestyles" (in one quick sitting, though I proofread for typos a little bit) about Anorak and another about a news article I linked.

Maybe that will help you with strategy if the thing with you and Slipx goes down.

I'll copy them here in a minute.

Remember, I never claimed to have any skills. If anything sounds particularly skilled or tight, it's an absolute accident, I assure you...

MetalVomit

06-11-2005, 12:04 PM

Depends on your criteria. Rakim doesn't have nearly as many albums as other active rappers, who are at a handicap if you're judging entire bodies of work.

Truthfully, though, I haven't heard a full Rakim album since the one with "Don't Sweat the Technique" on it. That's been a while...

DSTT is a great song, but the album is not great. Other than Pass the Hand grenade and casualties of war. Ill name his other albums.

Paid in Full (short but great,if not classic)
Follow The Leader(very solid album)
Let The Rhythm Hit Em (decent)
Dont Sweat The Technique (Decent)
The 18th Letter (classic)
The Master (average production, but solid album)

I was dying him and dr. dre to finish that album, but it got scrapped. Lyrically, no one can touch Rakim.

neils7147933

06-11-2005, 12:05 PM

All right guys, go easy on me...

http://newton.bloguje.cz/eminem1.jpg

Okay Anorak (still pretending like you have me on ignore?)

I'm not for trash talking all over a forum...

Let's handle our differences like gentlemen...rap gentlemen circa 1996

I'll post my Round 1 rap, you reply - then post your Round 2, and I'll reply

It's B Rabbit 7147933 on the mic right now; if nobody has my back, I guess I'll just have to take you on myself.

I call this quick dis track "The Maybelline Song"

http://www.make-up.ru/logos/maybelline.gif

Everyone, please excuse my simple, demonstrative rhyme style. Why show your hand on the undercard, that's my thinking...

(you folks can sing along at home)

Chorus:

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols2/Music.notes.jpg

IT'S ANAL WRECK, BS's DRAMA QUEEN
IT'S ANORAK, PIMPLE OF BOXINGSCENE

IT'S ANAL WRECK, BS's DRAMA QUEEN
MAYBE HE'S BORN WITH IT; MAYBE IT'S MAYBELLINE

http://jewishworldreview.com/cols2/Music.notes.jpg

'Gringo started a thread; Anal Wreck began defense;
People kept responding; Anal Wreck began to tense.
We all agreed on something and Anal Wreck felt dissed;
I called out the obvious then Anal Wreck got pissed.
Several Swiftian-crazed threads came and then several more;
and the self proclaimed limey claims he put me on ignore.
But he wants to keep feuding and his posts still suck;
paul took down his '***** tits' avatar 'cause it's corny as ****.
And Anny's on some new fungus to the Non Stop Boxing boards;
He's putting Williams threads and simple comments up by the hordes.
So I'll take a little step to know he hasn't won the feud;
But I'll leave his momma out of this; it's juvenile and rude.

Chorus

My snaps threads get 1,000 views (VIEWS)
Your **** threads get 1,000 boos (BOOS)

You call out your fans but you must be the only one;
to think that walnut heads and stinky Schmeling corpse threads are fun.
The Rippuhs were too cool to take you so you hunt and scrounge;
and get 2 guys for '***** tits crew' who barely see the lounge.
And all your posts you think are clever get passed over then they're done;
until you bump your own **** up so it then gets back to page one.
you should have kept your damn mouth shut on the 'Current State..." thread;
but you had to show your ass, freak out and say you want me dead.
And then your tantrum thread got closed and you waited your obsession;
but then you started the next day; I guess you haven't learned your lesson.
You're a Limey fan boy; you're Danny Williams' would be boy-toy;
It's scary how that Ali comic book with Superman can give your *****-ass much joy.
So consider this Round 1 of the Lounge smack talk 8 Mile;
and ponder on my coments, plan your reply for a short while.
So when somebody posts a thread that wants to see your favorite owned pitcha;
save this dis as a picture file, save as, and bring this whole darn thread witcha.

Chorus

your move, Papa doc.

neils7147933

06-11-2005, 12:08 PM

I did this one in a few minutes at the urging of run w/knives, who had posted a rap on this thread as well: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35461

http://www.wistv.com/global/story.asp?s=3313972&ClientType=Printable

Rock Hill student charged after bringing nails to school

(Rock Hill-AP) May 7, 2005 - An 11-year-old boy was arrested this week for carrying ten nails in his pocket at a Rock Hill middle school and charged with carrying an unlawful weapon.

Dianne McCray, assistant principal at Rawlinson Road Middle School, asked the child Wednesday what was jingling in his pocket and the student gave her the 3.5" long nails.

A school resource officer arrested him. His father picked him up and he was not taken to the police station.

The father said the nails were left in his pocket after a Boy Scout outing. He says it is ridiculous that his son faces an unlawful weapon charge. He says the boy threatened no one.

Posted 3:20pm by Chantelle Janelle

Welcome to '3-9 Germany; explicit not subliminal
Where even a sixth-grader can be labelled a criminal
The kid's out of the school, but no one should still relax
I heard that the LD teacher's got push pins and some thumb tacks

Everyone's a domestic terrorist, zero tolerance the new norm
Gather around this little kid and attack him in swarm
'Cause he's holding a dangerous weapon, potentientially someone could die
The paperboy's got a rubber-band holding the news together; that **** could land right in your eye

Send the cops to the school; police and military hand-in-hand
so we're desensitized to armed guards and arrests across the land
We call it homeland security; we say that these are different times
pbds and Torino and Dr. Freecloud chomp at the bit to diss these rhymes

So get your national ID card, suspect your neighbor, lock your doors
Pass laws about those high school cheerleaders, the nasty little whores
And tell me what doggie I can keep, who I can ****, and I who live wit'
Tell me I'm free and I should love this land like I should buy this bull****

If I question why this isn't the place they taught me about in grade school;
put my name on a no-fly list and the masses think that's so cool
Because according to the Patriot Act, I must be danger to your health
While the globalist elitists kill more people, grow their wealth...

"It's an isolated case, the kid should have known better"
"This **** doesn't happen every day, you must be a go-getter"
"And doom and gloom and conspiracies and other types of ****e"
"It won't be my poor Boy Scout next; my country loves me, right?"

neils7147933

06-11-2005, 12:28 PM

this kid I went to school with was one of the smartest people I know. He was one of those guys who was in first-grade when he was 5 and his parents took him to be tested at colleges and stuff, and he scored like a 700 on his SATs when he was 6 and ended up graduating from a gifted private school rather than the one I went to...

but anyway, the first couple years of high school we had most of our classes together. He was big into groups like Beck and Ween and the alternative bands of '93, '94, whatever and he listened to like the Beatles and newer classic rock some too.

But back then was when BMG Music Service was big with the kids. I lived (and still live) in small-town, whitebread Midwest, so it took a mail order subscription to The Source and passing around CDs to hear a lot of rap music at the time. Whenever you got someone to join the club, BMG would send you 3 or 4 more rap CDs.

Well, anyhow, he ended up hearing Dr. Dre's The Chronic and fell in love with it (or at least was interested enough in it to memorize it word-for-word). Call it appreciation, call it parody, or whatever, but this guy would sit around and write "gangsta rap" comedy rhymes all the time about our little community or people around us. Actually, I saw him a few years later and we free-styled one night, and this guy could probably ghostwrite for people who "look the part". He doesn't even listen to rap music now, except for something Dre might be attached to, like the Eminem albums. He also told me he had heard the Grey Album since he was a Beatles fan.

I still remember some lines of a rap he wrote when he was 14 and 15. He did this in a few minutes in Latin class, when we were translating a passage aloud, going from person to person in a class of 11, going one sentence at a time.

Given his time constraints especially, I thought it was quite witty, seeing as how he had heard exactly one rap album in his life like two days before.

Part of it (that I remember)

Hey, Neil . You think you're the real deal? But you gots less rap skills than Shaquille O'Neal.

That gangsta rap ya listen to might be nice, but you're white, whiter than Vanilla Ice.

You dumped Sarah S and I bet you don't missa/but you wonder bout your new ***** Melissa.

She gots a mouth around my big fat organ/I'm not a Smashing Pumpkin but they call me Billy Corgan.

Ya best not try to pop me; or I'll bust you with the neener I got at the C-ville swap meet.

....

So turn out the lights and close the do'/Cause (his name) rules the mic in 9 fo'...

We would end up passing back a sheet of paper back and forth in class writing two lines a piece. We knew we weren't rappers and we certainly weren't rappers, but it was fun, and it was more like a Saturday Night Live or In Living Color skit then legitimate song writing. Most of it sucked, but sometimes we'd get something fairly clever. One of the ones I remember was about cruising the streets of our small town and stopping to get ice cream....

(him)

southeast Crawfordsville's where I chill - just a couple miles from the Covington Hill.

...

Rolling down the street with my homie Aloicious; we take a left turn, pull into Dari-Licious;

just like Live, we're bringing the drama. I pop down a five and order 2 Bahama mamas. Now we're sitting on a bench eating and it's starting to get dark. Watching the kids make out at turtle park. This rhyme's so dope It's bout to get to me...let me pass the mic to motha****in' ID

(me)

now they call me ID 'cause I always get carded
once bucked a ***** down just cause the ***** farted
Baby I'll do you in the back of my Camaro
just as soon as I slide on my Jimmy Sombrero
when they see this dick they know I'm not a shrimp
Cause, as things turn out, I'm a hard ****ing pimp
I'm a playa in the air, on the land, in the sea
I'm a mother****in' pimp with a capital p...p...p...p.

LOL - memories are made of this.

neils7147933

06-11-2005, 12:33 PM

there was this one kid named Tommy Bray that was this big bully in junior high - if he could find you. He was legally blind; probably this contributed to him having a chip on his shoulder. But if he found you, he'd put you in a head lock, give you a charley horse, hit you in the nuts whatever.

While freestyling, dude says:

I'm wondering if I die, will I go to heaven
then I see Tommy Bray with an AK 47

He'd tried to fade our asses
So I bucked the ***** down and broke his coke-bottle glasses

All right, I'll quit hijacking the thread. Thought some of you guys close to my age who listened to rap back when the "gangsta" part was just cracking the mainstream might get a kick out of some square white boys from a small town reacting to discovering the culture...

SonnyG8R

06-11-2005, 01:07 PM

They should call it Gay-Hop

:p j/k

MetalVomit

06-11-2005, 04:27 PM

They should call it gay-hop

:p j/k

what's sad is some of it is gayhop. most of the bull**** you hear on the radio, the cookie cutter made just to sell records **** like lil jon, and all this crunky bull****. it's embarrassing.

BLOODSHED

06-12-2005, 02:51 AM

Dont EVER mention BLACK EYED PEAS and RAP together in the same sentence every again. They're the worst sell outs of all time. They get a while girl with no ass who cant sing and now theyre going platinum. What a shame.

The Fix

06-12-2005, 02:59 AM

Tha Greatest

06-12-2005, 04:55 AM

I dunno if anyone agrees with me

but Too Short is one of the greatest rappers of all time

Truth

06-12-2005, 02:03 PM

How about Big L? Lyrically maybe one the top 5 greatest rappers.

Tha Greatest

06-12-2005, 02:55 PM

How about Big L? Lyrically maybe one the top 5 greatest rappers.

Whos Big L man??

Too $hort is from Oakland which is right next to my city so I'm a big fan of him and I love his music...

mainly for his music, but I like his oakland style etc.

I hope you know what I mean lol

Tha Greatest

06-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Fix, you got give him props though, whether you like him or not he is a legend.

Eminem is one of the greatest rappers of all time...

I agree with you mayweatherfan

boxstarr

06-12-2005, 05:26 PM

top 3 rappers of all time

nas
eminem
biggie

oldgringo

06-12-2005, 06:03 PM

Eminem and 2 Short aren't even in my top 20...

Tha Greatest

06-12-2005, 08:20 PM

Eminem and 2 Short aren't even in my top 20...

Half those rappers you named aren't on my top 20 either...
Not sayin they suck, but it ain't my style...

Truth

06-12-2005, 09:16 PM

Eminem has put so many great songs out to say he is not great is simply crazy.

Truth

06-12-2005, 09:17 PM

Whos Big L man??

Too $hort is from Oakland which is right next to my city so I'm a big fan of him and I love his music...

mainly for his music, but I like his oakland style etc.

I hope you know what I mean lol

Lamont Coleman: http://bigl.irth.net/

oldgringo

06-12-2005, 09:42 PM

Tha Greatest

06-13-2005, 01:56 AM

Eminem is very good, but I can still name 20 guys that have done it better.

Grandmaster Caz
AZ
Nas
Scarface
Notorious B.I.G.
Big Pun
Rakim
Big Daddy Kane
KRS One
Rass Kass
Redman
Queen Latifah
LL Cool J
Pharoahe Monch
Tupac Shakur
Jay Z
MC Lyte
Common
Chuck D
Ice Cube
Method Man
Kool Moe Dee
Slick Rick

thats 23 but still...

I don't care if his on your top 100 or your top 5, everyone has got different taste and nothing wrong with that...

From my Point of view his one of the greatest

From your list, I guess we have a huge taste difference in rap LOL

oldgringo

06-13-2005, 02:24 AM

I don't care if his on your top 100 or your top 5, everyone has got different taste and nothing wrong with that...

From my Point of view his one of the greatest

From your list, I guess we have a huge taste difference in rap LOL

Well my list wasn't really done from personal taste.

If I were to do one from my taste you'd see emcees like...

Talib Kweli
Black Thought
Bahamadia
Masta Ace (who actually should be on that first list because Eminem completely bites his style and Ace has been in the game for a grip)
Tech N9ne
Big L

...etc in front of him too.

Em is great, and has carved his place in history, but these guys all do more for me.

EDIT: I'd also put Guru in front of him if we were just talking personal taste. That first list was based more on objective things though.

Tha Greatest

06-13-2005, 02:26 AM

Well my list wasn't really done from personal taste.

If I were to do one from my taste you'd see emcees like...

Talib Kweli
Black Thought
Bahamadia
Masta Ace (who actually should be on that first list because Eminem completely bites his style and Ace has been in the game for a grip)
Tech N9ne
Big L

...etc in front of him too.

Em is great, and has carved his place in history, but these guys all do more for me.

I'm not saying his great or not lol

but that first list you gave of 23 rappers..

I really dont like half of them..

Scarface, Nas, Slick Rick, etc. are not even close to my type:D

btw you like the song "take a walk" from Masta Ace?
I love that song

neils7147933

06-13-2005, 03:56 AM

Well my list wasn't really done from personal taste.

If I were to do one from my taste you'd see emcees like...

Talib Kweli
Black Thought
Bahamadia
Masta Ace (who actually should be on that first list because Eminem completely bites his style and Ace has been in the game for a grip)
Tech N9ne
Big L

...etc in front of him too.

Em is great, and has carved his place in history, but these guys all do more for me.

EDIT: I'd also put Guru in front of him if we were just talking personal taste. That first list was based more on objective things though.
I think Em is held to a higher standard because he doesn't physically appear to belong.

He rhymes goofy some times, he's always going to be pop, but he exerts more talent playing around than most rappers do trying to make a classic.

'The Marshall Mathers LP' was the best post-2000 rap album released, IMO.

oldgringo

06-13-2005, 04:12 AM

I think Em is held to a higher standard because he doesn't physically appear to belong.

He rhymes goofy some times, he's always going to be pop, but he exerts more talent playing around than most rappers do trying to make a classic.

'The Marshall Mathers LP' was the best post-2000 rap album released, IMO.

I put Marshall Mathers LP on the same level as Scarfaces The Fix, Jay-Z's Black Album, and AZ's Aziatic. Actually The Fix might be a bit better than the rest.

Albums that I think were the best post-2000 albums would either be Canibus' Rip the Jacker, Scarfaces' The Fix, or Talib Kweli's Train of Thought: Reflection Eternal.

neils7147933

06-13-2005, 04:14 AM

I just now have heard Talib Kweli. The Black Star album was alright and I really liked the Beautiful Struggle, but the buzz seems to be that the album was a disappointment?

Tha Greatest

06-13-2005, 12:13 PM

lol

Your guys taste is different than mine bigtime LOL

MetalVomit

06-13-2005, 10:02 PM

I just now have heard Talib Kweli. The Black Star album was alright and I really liked the Beautiful Struggle, but the buzz seems to be that the album was a disappointment?

Get the Reflection Eternal album. Pure classic, better than Black Star and Beautiful Struggle combined. A flawless album.

MetalVomit

06-13-2005, 10:06 PM

I put Marshall Mathers LP on the same level as Scarfaces The Fix, Jay-Z's Black Album, and AZ's Aziatic. Actually The Fix might be a bit better than the rest.

Albums that I think were the best post-2000 albums would either be Canibus' Rip the Jacker, Scarfaces' The Fix, or Talib Kweli's Train of Thought: Reflection Eternal.

Jay's Black Album isnt that great in my eyes. His Blueprint album is better, even though both album names are unoriginal (KRS already made an album called Blueprint in BDP, and Prince made the Black Album). 2000 B.C. is Canibus' hardest ****, Rip The Jacker is dope though, just listened to it a couple days ago.

MetalVomit

06-13-2005, 10:06 PM

Lamont Coleman: http://bigl.irth.net/

Big L was nasty. R.I.P.

borikua

06-13-2005, 11:04 PM

Guys I just uploaded two new songs from Kanye West new album, its on the Music Spot forum...

The Fix

06-14-2005, 12:46 AM

big L was a monster on the mic
he coulda blew up like the rest of c.o.c if he didnt get gunned down....R.I.P

Ricomania77

06-14-2005, 02:04 AM

Tha Greatest

06-14-2005, 04:14 AM

No offense but I think Jay Z is one of the worse rappers I've ever heard...

MetalVomit

06-14-2005, 04:15 PM

big L was a monster on the mic
he coulda blew up like the rest of c.o.c if he didnt get gunned down....R.I.P

Big L was the best out of C.O.C. At least we got one final album, The Big Picture, which was heavily slept on.

The Fix

06-14-2005, 07:01 PM

Big L was the best out of C.O.C. At least we got one final album, The Big Picture, which was heavily slept on.
lifestyles of the poor and the danjerous was his only complete album, the big picture was pieced together(flawlessly) when big l died.

MetalVomit

06-14-2005, 07:18 PM

lifestyles of the poor and the danjerous was his only complete album, the big picture was pieced together(flawlessly) when big l died.

Yeah, i know it was pieced together,but at least we got that, instead of nothing. I was glad.

The Fix

06-14-2005, 07:19 PM

Yeah, i know it was pieced together,but at least we got that, instead of nothing. I was glad.
i really liked the big picutre, my fav was platinum plus with BDK

Truth

06-14-2005, 07:27 PM

Big L was nasty. R.I.P.

He had some of the craziest punch lines...

oldgringo

06-14-2005, 07:33 PM

I think Big L's best songs are The Triboro with D.I.T.C, Put It On, Day One, Ebonics, I Don't Understand It, and his freestyles.

It's like he had unlimited #'s of lines in his head and could just put them together whenever he wanted in no time.

If I could put 5 guys from the last 10 years in a massive battle where they just blaze on each other it'd be:

Big L
Canibus
JUICE
Eminem
Supernatural

MetalVomit

06-14-2005, 07:37 PM

i really liked the big picutre, my fav was platinum plus with BDK

I liked Fall Back, I'm a big Kool G Rap fan. Casualty of a Dice Game was dope too.

The Fix

06-14-2005, 07:56 PM

I liked Fall Back, I'm a big Kool G Rap fan. Casualty of a Dice Game was dope too.

yeah i like kgr too, giancana stories is heavily slept on

Atwa_66

06-14-2005, 08:22 PM

is that still possible? turk shot some police and is going to jail for a long ass time is what ive heard. bg had some dispute with baby, so i doubt he is on board. i also heard juve left cash money for universal. wayne is still around....

http://allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=2807
^^^^ read this one, TURK IS CRAZY :eek:

http://allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3330
^^^^ this one says juve left and is on atlantic
anything is possible but id say the chances of a hot boys studio album is not very good.
wow I had no clue about that, thanks for the articles. That sucks, Turk is awesome, and Lil wayne is cool. They did alot of good stuff in my opinion when they were together. That pisses me off if Juve really left cash money for atlantic.

The Fix

06-14-2005, 08:27 PM

wow I had no clue about that, thanks for the articles. That sucks, Turk is awesome, and Lil wayne is cool. They did alot of good stuff in my opinion when they were together. That pisses me off if Juve really left cash money for universal.
i honestly dont know where juvie is going to go, there is rumors that he is still on cash money..... matter of fact i think universal and cash money may have a joint thing going but your guess is as good as mine.

Atwa_66

06-14-2005, 08:41 PM

i honestly dont know where juvie is going to go, there is rumors that he is still on cash money..... matter of fact i think universal and cash money may have a joint thing going but your guess is as good as mine.
yeah, that's a shame about turk, he has a good sound, though him and lil wayne tend to sound alike. Wayne is cool though, back in like 98-99 cash money really looked like they had a future, now It's over.

Tha Greatest

06-14-2005, 08:43 PM

No offense but Juvenile is long past his prime...

Atwa_66

06-14-2005, 08:45 PM

No offense but Juvenile is long past his prime...
you think so? I think "Juve the great" was not a bad album at all. Have you heard it yet?

oldgringo

06-14-2005, 08:45 PM

Juve the Great was actually a very good album that he released not so long ago...he's still a good artist to have in the game....

Atwa_66

06-14-2005, 08:47 PM

Juve the Great was actually a very good album that he released not so long ago...he's still a good artist to have in the game....
I agree with you, I think 400 Degreez was a better album, but I don't think that "Juve the great" was a bad album at all.

Tha Greatest

06-14-2005, 08:55 PM

I just remember when Juvi first came in the mix, he was ****in awesome and owned the era, but I heard some songs from him recently and it just ain't the same anymore

oldgringo

06-14-2005, 09:17 PM

gringos 6 must hear songs...not from a personal taste standpoint but from an objective standpoint:

Public Enemy - Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos -- From one of the best albums ever put out in any music genre, this song strikes a key in my mind as being one of the best in hip hop ever. This is THE anti-authority song if theres ever been one.

Eric B. and Rakim - Eric B. is President -- This is the song that I first heard Rakim on and it really sounds like his entrance into the throne. It may be their best song and showcases Rakim's perfectionism on the mic.

Common - I Used to Love H.E.R. -- This is maybe the greatest hip hop song ever made and is THE hip hop anthem for sure. Beautifully layered beat with Common dropping an intricate story on the mic. You won't find a better mix of beat and lyric.

Rass Kass - Nature of the Threat -- I can't really explain it too well. This a one case where you just have to hear for yourself.

N.W.A. - **** The Police -- Maybe I lied and this is the ultimate anti-authority song. This and Ice T's Cop Killer have drawn about as much serious attention from mainstream and media as I've ever seen.

Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Message -- This almost personifies hip hop. I think it's self-explanitory.

Atwa_66

06-14-2005, 09:58 PM

I was wondering if anyone heard the song "Tupac and Biggie Tribute" It's like a rock/rap song, it's pretty good, sad too. I don't know the actual name of it or who does it. It's pretty good.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 12:37 AM

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 01:04 AM

Common is my least fav rapper right now. Hes switched his styles so much. When the corny love rap songs were in style he did that music (Ghetto Heaven with Macy Gray, The Light , the song with Lauryn Hill). When the neptunes were the hottest producers he had them (Come Close with Mary Blige). Now that Kanye won a grammy he had him do his WHOLE album. This dudes trying to sell records in the worst way by hooking up with all the right producers.

At least GUnit uses smaller no name producers. Red Spyda was a no name until G-Unit made a name for him. The only big time producers they worked with his Timbaland and Scot Storch.

I don't see how you can have beef with him trying to get his name out there again after he put out Electric Circus. I actually felt that he got back to his older style on this BE, more in tune with Can I Borrow a Dollar and the like.

I don't think Macy Gray was on Ghetto Heaven...that was D'Angelo, and the Roots...and it wasn't a love song. Retrospect for Life was the track with Lauren Hill and it also wasn't really a love song, acutally I thought it was a dope collabo since they are two of the most cerebral artists out there. Not all songs with females featured are love songs mayne.

MetalVomit

06-15-2005, 02:03 AM

kaps

06-15-2005, 02:47 AM

No, it just means his opinion differs from yours.......

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 03:20 AM

the song was with macy gray. macy gray of all people.

kaps

06-15-2005, 03:24 AM

Macy Gray freaks me out a little....

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 03:24 AM

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 03:29 AM

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 03:31 AM

why does Macy Gray keep coming up?

MetalVomit

06-15-2005, 10:40 AM

My main point is that whether you like it or not, GUnit sells the records not the producer. Like 50 said, Jadakiss might be better lyrically but Jada cant write his own hook. Thats why someones always singing on his choruses (Why with Antony Hamilton, You Make Me Wanna with Mariah Carey, Pharell on Knock Yourself Out).

Meanwhile, Common just goes with whoevers hot to sell records.

Why dont you listen to Can I Borrow a Dollar, or Like Water for Chocolate by Common? I think that would clear this up for you.

MetalVomit

06-15-2005, 10:41 AM

I love hip hop but I notice when certain people only work with the producers that are sure to give them a hit.
Foxy Browns career was dead. Saw Jigga retire then squashed her legit beef with Jigga and is having him produce her album. She needs a hit like a crack head needs a hit.
Busta Rhymes, this dude went from the neptunes straight to Dr. Dre. His music isnt good.
Snoop Dogg, left Death Row when they werent hot and went to No Limit when Master P was hot. Let No Limit when they werent hot and landed up with the Neptunes who have done all his songs on his new album.

These rappers above suck and go only with whose hot.

I agree with about everything except Busta Rhymes, he hasnt put out a good album in a few years, but trust me, he has made some good music. Check out The Coming, or When Disaster Strikes, or Anarchy. And Jay-Z doesnt produce, he may be executive producer or some ****, i know he's gonna rhyme on Fox's album, but he doesnt make beats(produce).

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 12:48 PM

Um when you take a look at who was hot when Common released and album, you'd see he goes with whoever could get him a hit. I dare Common to go with small time producers and get the recgonition hes gotten on this album. Even pop Nelly made a name for himself with local unknown St. Louis producers on his first album. Common wont do that.

Thats why I respect (doesnt mean like their music) that Nelly and Chingy can go multiplatinum on their debut album with no name homegrown beats.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 12:52 PM

Jayz executive produces like Puffy. If Foxy can get his name down on her album it would definately help her. Even that old bag JackiO took a good swipe at Foxy Brown lyrically on a diss track. Commons no different. I respect his lyrical ability (somewhat, "I wonder if god is a her" WTF?) but something tells me this guy is trying to be "deep".

MetalVomit

06-15-2005, 06:49 PM

The Fix

06-15-2005, 07:27 PM

The Fix

06-15-2005, 07:30 PM

Gattz187

06-15-2005, 07:33 PM

can you recommoned some rakim songs.since you said he is on of the poineers of rap i was intersested.

The Fix

06-15-2005, 07:34 PM

My main point is that whether you like it or not, GUnit sells the records not the producer. Like 50 said, Jadakiss might be better lyrically but Jada cant write his own hook. Thats why someones always singing on his choruses (Why with Antony Hamilton, You Make Me Wanna with Mariah Carey, Pharell on Knock Yourself Out).

Meanwhile, Common just goes with whoevers hot to sell records.
are you trying to say eminem and dre's beats didnt have a hand in 50's success?

plus jada is a rapper, he isnt r&b he doesnt need to sing.
remember jadas diss "imagine me not come out swinging thats like going to a 50 show and he doesnt come out singing" or something to that effect.

The Fix

06-15-2005, 07:37 PM

can you recommoned some rakim songs.since you said he is on of the poineers of rap i was intersested.

grab the entire paid in full album, its a classic

eric b and rakim were sick

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 07:39 PM

can you recommoned some rakim songs.since you said he is on of the poineers of rap i was intersested.

Eric B. is President

Paid in Full

Microphone Fiend

Follow The Leader

Strong Island (newer)

When I be on the Mic (newer)

Guess Who's Back (newer)

I'll Buss 'em you Punish 'em (newer)

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 08:47 PM

I didnt say I liked Nelly nor Chingy. I was saying they sold 10 times what common sold and theyre arent hooking up with all the pricey producers.

Thats why I respect Nelly any day over Common.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 08:48 PM

I didnt say I liked Nelly nor Chingy. I was saying they sold 10 times what common sold and theyre arent hooking up with all the pricey producers.

Thats why I respect Nelly any day over Common.
we obviously dont see eye to eye on this subject. lol.

Nelly is average, nothing special. Chingy=worst rapper alive.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 08:50 PM

Eminem and Dres beat have helped 50 on one video (In Da Club) but look at 21 question, Many Men, and his other hits that were produced by relatively low key if not straight no name producers.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 08:56 PM

The thing about Common is that he and Kanye are both from Chi-town. Why hasnt he reached out to Kanye before he became a mainstream rapper/producer? Why must Common wait before Kanye releases a multi-platinum album and win Grammy's before he wants to work with 'Ye? Without a doubt Commons trying to capitalize commercially off Kanye.

Dude, Common is going for whoever is hot in the worst way. Ditched the Neptunes probably because they became too expensive ($1 million a song).

I want to add Eve to the bogus rapper's list. She left Ruff Ryders when Ryder's songs were crap. Left Swizz to go with Dre. She still hasnt released an album under Dre and she's been signed to his label for 3 years. On the other hand, Rakim was signed to Dre and because Dre was taking the longest to produce his album, Rakim left and signed somewhere else to get his album out is a reasonable time.

Eve needs a hit too. Dre gave her the biggest hit of her career with Gwen Stefani. Eve's so desperate for a hit shes willing to be shelved for the longest just so Dre can do her album.

The Fix

06-15-2005, 08:57 PM

I didnt say I liked Nelly nor Chingy. I was saying they sold 10 times what common sold and theyre arent hooking up with all the pricey producers.

Thats why I respect Nelly any day over Common.
it shoudnt be about record sales....

ill take quality over sales any day

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 09:01 PM

You're right it sure isnt about record sales, but I'm trying to prove how unsuccessful and bogus Common is by switching his styles to fads and pricey producers.

When other musicians like Outkast, Nelly and Chingy have sold many many millions more than Common being who they are from day one. Go listen to Outkast's ATLiens. They sound and rap today just like they did then. Theyre using their same producers.

Let me add Black Eyed Peas to this list. They werent selling anything until the white chick came. All of a sudden she brings her no ass self to the group and theyre selling millions on pop rap. Theyre' crap.
it shoudnt be about record sales....

ill take quality over sales any day

The Fix

06-15-2005, 09:11 PM

You're right it sure isnt about record sales, but I'm trying to prove how unsuccessful and bogus Common is by switching his styles to fads and pricey producers.

When other musicians like Outkast, Nelly and Chingy have sold many many millions more than Common being who they are from day one. Go listen to Outkast's ATLiens. They sound and rap today just like they did then. Theyre using their same producers.

Let me add Black Eyed Peas to this list. They werent selling anything until the white chick came. All of a sudden she brings her no ass self to the group and theyre selling millions on pop rap. Theyre' crap.
common didnt switch styles, i dont know where you got that from :confused:

and btw your talkin as if common is a sellout but you support the biggest sellout in rap....50 cent. i guess sha money xl is a no name as well. 50 cents albums are loaded up with dre and em beats.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 09:12 PM

I dont like 50. But Common is a sellout. If Common is the thinking rapper why must he rely on price producers who make pop songs? If Common is the rapper that isnt into materialistic things, why is he paying the Neptunes $1,000,000 for a song?

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 09:13 PM

common didnt switch styles, i dont know where you got that from :confused:

and btw your talkin as if common is a sellout but you support the biggest sellout in rap....50 cent. i guess sha money xl is a no name as well. 50 cents albums are loaded up with dre and em beats.

Actually he did a little bit...but not recently. When he was playing the Chicago circuit when he was A LOT younger he was a little harder and had a raw sounding flow. He's pretty much been the same since Can I Borrow A Dollar though...

The Fix

06-15-2005, 09:17 PM

Actually he did a little bit...but not recently. When he was playing the Chicago circuit when he was A LOT younger he was a little harder and had a raw sounding flow. He's pretty much been the same since Can I Borrow A Dollar though...
but like anything people adapt to the times, old school cats dont flow like they used to. i remember when jay-z was a more rapid fire guy but he touched it up and perfected his flow.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 09:18 PM

I bet you if there was a producer two years from now named American Redneck that produced pop hits for everyone he would have American Redneck produce his album still trying to be "real".

The Fix

06-15-2005, 09:20 PM

I bet you if there was a producer two years from now named American Redneck that produced pop hits for everyone he would have American Redneck produce his album still trying to be "real".
i bet in a couple of years you drop rap like it was just a fade....

instead of hating give the album a listen, its worth it....

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 09:23 PM

Ive listened to the album. Same Kanye that produced for JayZ, Diplomats, etc. Thank God I didnt buy the album.

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 09:24 PM

No Ive liked rap a lot longer than you. Where are you from Britain?
i bet in a couple of years you drop rap like it was just a fade....

instead of hating give the album a listen, its worth it....

The Fix

06-15-2005, 09:26 PM

No Ive liked rap a lot longer than you. What are you from Britain?
nope.....

you seem just like another stan....

talkin about nelly, chingy, 50 cent, and whoever else is selling the most at the time.

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 09:34 PM

Ive listened to the album. Same Kanye that produced for JayZ, Diplomats, etc. Thank God I didnt buy the album.

What are you saying? That you don't like Kanyes production? Or that you should have 1 producer and stick with him your whole life? You're a hypocrite...

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 09:48 PM

The Fix

06-15-2005, 09:53 PM

Kanyes production is good. But if you listen to his songs that hes done for the Roc a lot sound similar. And for someone as arrogant as Kanye, you would think he makes his own beats. No... theyre all samples! He samples all his beats and he's still that arrogant.
every producer has his own sound
rza
havoc
dre
eminem
alchemist
lil jon
neptunes.... they all have there own sound, its what got them to where they are today. why fix it when its not broken?

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 10:01 PM

Actually on the list... only Lil Jon, Eminem, Dre and Neptunes (with the exception of Snoops Ups and Downs) dont sample. The rest sample a LOT. So if you sample its not really your sound is it. Kanye's Through the Wire still sounds like Chaka Khan Through the Fire. Kanye's Song Diamonds still sounds like James Bond's Diamonds are Forever opening title. Those arent Kanye's sounds theyre whoever he ripped's sounds.

The Fix

06-15-2005, 10:13 PM

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 10:26 PM

AZ gets nasty (http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01SBI7ESNNB9123J1DFPAH3PBV)

Truth

06-15-2005, 11:25 PM

AZ is great, I think he still has good music left in him to come in the future.

MetalVomit

06-15-2005, 11:26 PM

AZ gets nasty (http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01SBI7ESNNB9123J1DFPAH3PBV)

Did you hear that Nas "Serious" song that didnt make the cut for Street's Disciple? It's with AZ and it's sick.

MetalVomit

06-15-2005, 11:27 PM

BLOODSHED

06-15-2005, 11:36 PM

Yes I know who DJ Premier. Some of the best beats, but he jacks them too.

Favorite DJ Premier beat

Hip Hop or Pitch Blacks Its All Real or BIG's Kick in the Door

oldgringo

06-15-2005, 11:50 PM

Yes I know who DJ Premier. Some of the best beats, but he jacks them too.

Favorite DJ Premier beat

Hip Hop or Pitch Blacks Its All Real or BIG's Kick in the Door

What has he jacked>?

BLOODSHED

06-16-2005, 12:12 AM

BLOODSHED

06-16-2005, 12:14 AM

Oh let me add Biggies "Unbelievable" as one my fav DJ Premier Beats.

oldgringo

06-16-2005, 12:36 AM

My favorite Primo beats are

Mass Appeal
Wors That I Manifest
The Sixth Sense
21 Years
Come Clean

BLOODSHED

06-16-2005, 01:05 AM

Come Clean is wicked. Have to agree with you there.

The Fix

06-16-2005, 10:01 PM

Jacked Kick in the Door from an Old blues musician. I will post an article shortly if I can find it where he lost a legal battle for scrambling up beats and not crediting who made the original beat. The judge ruled that he must still give royalties even though the original beat might not be recognizable.
wasnt kick in the door sampled from that "i got a spell on you" song by louis armstrong?..... ive always thought thats where that was from.

The Fix

06-16-2005, 10:21 PM

maybe its not by louis armsrtong, ive been searchin for a minute now and cant find his version of it, i did find ray charles though and im downloading it to comapare right now.

EDIT- well kick in the door wasnt taken from ray charles version

i sware i heard i put a spell on you by luois armsrtong, can anybody confirm?

The Fix

06-16-2005, 10:42 PM

anybodt hear about cassidy? he just turned himself in and is facing murder and weapons charges.... crazy ****

Truth

06-16-2005, 10:47 PM

anybodt hear about cassidy? he just turned himself in and is facing murder and weapons charges.... crazy ****

Are you serious? WTF! Thats crazy! :eek:

The Fix

06-16-2005, 11:07 PM

Are you serious? WTF! Thats crazy! :eek:
yeah check out allhiphop.com for the news..... he must be stupid, he was finally ready to blow with that "ima hustla"

Truth

06-16-2005, 11:14 PM

yeah check out allhiphop.com for the news..... he must be stupid, he was finally ready to blow with that "ima hustla"

Why do you have to bust a gun when your rich? Its stupid...Free Shyne Po. That man should be free he has payed his debt to society plus that trial was sketch.

The Fix

06-17-2005, 12:32 AM

Why do you have to bust a gun when your rich? Its stupid...Free Shyne Po. That man should be free he has payed his debt to society plus that trial was sketch.
mad props to shyne, most rappers are fake

shyne didnt speak up against diddy when he had the chance and stayed true to his word. "never tellin or snitchin, rather sleep with the fishin"

oldgringo

06-17-2005, 12:34 AM

Fix, I want to hear your response to this game thats coming to an end on the NBA thread.

The Fix

06-17-2005, 12:34 AM

btw my fav premier songs:
D'evils...far and away my favorite
platinum plus
saturday night live
nas is like
ten crack commandments
betrayal

+= El Jefe=+

06-17-2005, 01:05 AM

Armed and dangerous, ain't too many can bang with us
Straight up weed no angel dust, label us Notorious
Thug ass *****z that love to bust, it's strange to us
Y'all *****z be scramblin, gamblin
Up in restaraunts with mandolins, and violins
We just sittin here tryin to win, tryin not to sin
High off weed and lots of gin
So much smoke need oxygen, steadily countin them Benjamins
***** you should too, if you knew
What this game'll do to you
Been in this **** since ninety-two
Look at all the bull**** I been through
So-called beef with you know who
**** a few female stars or two
*****, blue light, *****, move like Mike, ****
not to be ****ed with
Mother****er better duck quick, cause
Me and my dogs love to buck ****
**** the luck ****, strictly aim
No aspirations to quit the game
Spit yo' game, talk yo' ****
Grab yo' gat, call yo' click
Squeeze yo' clip, hit the right one
Pass that weed, I got to light one
All them *****z I got ta fight one
All them hoes I got ta like one
Our situation is a tight one
Whatcha gonna do, fight or run?
Seems to me that you'll take B
Bone and Big, ***** die slowly
I'ma tell you like a ***** told me
Cash Rule Everything Around Me
****, lyrically, *****z can't see me
**** it, buy the coke
Cook the coke, cut it
Know the ***** 'fore you caught yourself lovin' it
***** with a Benz ****in it
Doesn't it seem odd to you
Big come through with mobs and crews
Goodfellas down to the Mo Thugs dudes
Who's the killa, me or you?

BLOODSHED

06-17-2005, 01:21 AM

yeah thats it.. youre right. he sampled i got a spell on you and made it work.

dj premier isnt arrogant like kanye. and hes a dj. hes scratching to beats already made.

kanye won a grammy for jacking other peoples beats. just think someone wrote the lyrics to jesus walks and he took the beat to jesus walks from a gospel song but won a grammy for that song? somethings wrong here

BLOODSHED

06-17-2005, 01:23 AM

Cassidy's run in with the law isnt as bad as the Miami Dolphin caught stealing shoes from foot locker.

BLOODSHED

06-17-2005, 01:24 AM

devils pie is good.
ten crack commandments was good until SWV took it for their song someone. also lil mo jacked the beat feating lil kim called the ten something commandments.
btw my fav premier songs:
D'evils...far and away my favorite
platinum plus
saturday night live
nas is like
ten crack commandments
betrayal

Atwa_66

06-17-2005, 01:27 AM

anybodt hear about cassidy? he just turned himself in and is facing murder and weapons charges.... crazy ****
speaking of crazy ****, does anybody know what happened to that Houston guy thet gouged out his eye? That was crazy **** if anything is insane.

oldgringo

06-17-2005, 01:32 AM

[OneManArmy]
A whack emcee is something I could never be
That's like growing dreadlocks while you taking chemotherapy
Theoretically pen and paper is the recipe
Alphabetically I'm coming after you like the letter V
If you ever step to me, the worst is yet to come
You'll never get the best of me
Call it like a referee
Call it destiny, check the melody
Break the law of gravity
And lyrically catch a felony
I make it harder for the next emcee that's my specialty
Rappers better be tryin ta rap ahead of me
I'm a hard act to follow I could prove it medically
I'm sick in the head I could move a crowd with mental telepathy
Expect nothing less of me, top pedigree
Rap assassin, blastin'with syllable weaponry
Shoot the sheriff then the deputy
Don't be testin' me
Whoever think they fat can get the Dick Gregory

I'm bringing this up again. Most unappreciated dude in the game right now. One Be Lo is a beast.

Senim Silla's verse on that track was fire too...so was JUICE's

Truth

06-17-2005, 03:22 PM

mad props to shyne, most rappers are fake

shyne didnt speak up against diddy when he had the chance and stayed true to his word. "never tellin or snitchin, rather sleep with the fishin"

Shyne was very talented...

Truth

06-17-2005, 03:25 PM

Fix, did you hear that Shyne isn't getting retrial? Thats sucks...I thought he would be out this year. He is eligble for parole in 2009. :eek:

Atwa_66

06-17-2005, 06:38 PM

I wonder when Turk is going to get out, getting charged with attempted murder on a polic officer is serious ****. At least everyone knows he is real, he rapped about spraying the room with an AK-47, Guess he wasn't kidding, he actually did it.

Atwa_66

06-17-2005, 08:27 PM

Turk Still In Jail, Release Rumors False
By Clover Hope
Date: 1/19/2005 1:49 am

Contrary to rumors that Cash Money rapper Young Turk was recently released from prison, his camp has confirmed that the former Hot Boys member remains incarcerated.

"Whether or not Turk is still in jail or not is starting to become [like] the speculation of Tupac still alive," Turk's former publicist Phyllis Pollack of Def Press told AllHipHop.com. "He's still there," said Pollack, who still follows Turk's legal proceedings and worked publicity on the album that coincided with his case.

Federal agents arrested Tab "Turk" Virgil on one charge of attempted murder in January 2004. A Memphis SWAT team reportedly broke into an apartment where Turk, 22 at the time, had been residing while recording his third solo album Penitentiary Charges, released last April.

Police alleged that they were serving a search warrant for drugs. A small amount of drugs were uncovered, but no assault weapons were found, according to reports.

Turk told investigators he hid in a closet when police raided the apartment. The New Orleans-based rapper also claimed that cops failed to identify themselves and began shooting while he was in the closet.

Memphis' Shelby County detectives alleged that Turk shot at deputies during the drug raid.

"Turk says he did not have a gun when he was in the closet, he didn't shoot anybody," said Pollack. "And from what I have been told from sources in the case, the DNA has come back that his prints were not on the gun and they can't legally, with evidence, pin this gun to him at all."

According to Pollack, police claimed there was footage of Turk shooting the cop that would be used for a music video. "They had a spokesperson from the sheriff's department come out and say it on the news," said Pollack. "There is no such footage."

Turk was initially held on two charges. Authorities alleged that Turk shot two Shelby County Sheriffs deputies. The second charge was dropped when ballistics tests indicated that the second officer wounded was actually shot by another officer present at the scene.

Shelby County Judge Loyce Lambert Ryan ruled in April 2004 that there was no sufficient evidence to charge Turk with first degree murder and lowered the charges to second degree murder.

A federal grand jury subsequently indicted Turk as a felon in possession of a gun due to his prior conviction for felony heroin possession in Louisiana.

"Originally, he was going to be let out on bail," said Pollack. "All of a sudden, there were federal charges that came in, claiming [that] he had a weapon and it's a violation of parole."

As for a timetable to when Turk will be released, an exact date was uncertain as of press time.

"It's so absurd he's even still there," said Pollack. "All anybody can do is hope he can get out of there in a timely fashion because now it's been about a year."

Turk is currently being held in Shelby County Jail and maintains his innocence in the shooting incident.

Turk's lawyers have declined to discuss the case.

Atwa_66

06-17-2005, 08:29 PM

Truth

06-17-2005, 10:01 PM

I baught Wu Tang Clan's greatest hits today, its pretty sick...

enadeus

06-17-2005, 10:55 PM

Dipset best crew out there. Better than gunit, better than everyone. Juelz Santana is the best out there right now.

Atwa_66

06-17-2005, 11:19 PM

I have 3 posts about Turk and the cash money crew and nobody has nothing to say about it at all? Nothing? Man, you're all a bunch of Cash Money Haters :cool:

Truth

06-17-2005, 11:23 PM

I have 3 posts about Turk and the cash money crew and nobody has nothing to say about it at all? Nothing? Man, you're all a bunch of Cash Money Haters :cool:

I am not going to lie to you I am not a Cash Money fan simply because they too much about cash money. I don't hate they just arn't any of my favorites.

Atwa_66

06-18-2005, 12:02 AM

I am not going to lie to you I am not a Cash Money fan simply because they too much about cash money. I don't hate they just arn't any of my favorites.
I just figured alot more people would be into one cash money artist. I mean Baby, B&G, Lil Wayne, Turk, Juvenile, Big Tymers, They got alot to offer. And I checked, Juvenile is still with Cash Money Records.

BLOODSHED

06-18-2005, 12:08 AM

I have to agree. Best production and everything. They have Kanye and Just Blaze as regular producers. And the Heatmakers... man the Heatmakers are very underrated.
Dipset best crew out there. Better than gunit, better than everyone. Juelz Santana is the best out there right now.

enadeus

06-18-2005, 12:23 AM

oldgringo

06-18-2005, 12:28 AM

I have to agree. Best production and everything. They have Kanye and Just Blaze as regular producers. And the Heatmakers... man the Heatmakers are very underrated.

You're saying that the Heatmakerz are underrated yet all they do is sample old school soul tracks and kill the sped-up voice tip like Rza...

Isn't that what you were trying to knock Kanye and Primo for...jacking beats?

Atwa_66

06-18-2005, 01:07 AM

IwatchBoxing

06-18-2005, 02:08 AM

:439: 08-pirate_aka_pirata-new_york_new_york_(ft._jadakiss)_(dj_rmx)-wis*****
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2KLEDIUOY4WOE3W4S5H9W05T20

12-pirate_aka_pirata-por_que-why_(ft._jimmy_davila)-wis*****(talks about boxing)
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DXMMD0Y1HAS315SKD8AZ2GNZI

This one nice.06-pirate_aka_pirata-pirata_escupiendo_(ruff_ryders_rmx)-wis*****"
http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1XYUWMCUUJ07607Z3OKJ1NZZ5W

Unreleased yet. I'll upload the whole CD for points :D , w cover/back pictures.

The Fix

06-18-2005, 02:40 AM

Fix, did you hear that Shyne isn't getting retrial? Thats sucks...I thought he would be out this year. He is eligble for parole in 2009. :eek:

i feel bad for the guy because you never know when the mass appeal of rap will end, it could be next year and shyne misses the boat.

he put out an album this year but the police froze his accounts because you cant makey money out side of prison while in it.

btw atwa i dont believe turk is coming out of prison alive, once you done something like that to a police officer you're pretty much done. its like a brotherhood so an eye for an eye is pretty much the stakes.

Truth

06-18-2005, 01:16 PM

I just figured alot more people would be into one cash money artist. I mean Baby, B&G, Lil Wayne, Turk, Juvenile, Big Tymers, They got alot to offer. And I checked, Juvenile is still with Cash Money Records.

Theres nothing wrong with Cash Money if thats the type of rap your into.

Atwa_66

06-18-2005, 07:10 PM

i feel bad for the guy because you never know when the mass appeal of rap will end, it could be next year and shyne misses the boat.

he put out an album this year but the police froze his accounts because you cant makey money out side of prison while in it.

btw atwa i dont believe turk is coming out of prison alive, once you done something like that to a police officer you're pretty much done. its like a brotherhood so an eye for an eye is pretty much the stakes.
yeah, hope you're wrong, he a good rapper :(

BLOODSHED

06-18-2005, 07:48 PM

Lil Wayne is great. So great Jay was trying to sign him to the Roc. And I read that hes the most requested mix tape artist.
Lil wayne is great

mic573

06-18-2005, 07:59 PM

Lil Wayne is getting bad. That "go dj" song was terrible. Juvenille is allright. Baby raps about the same thing in every song. Mannie Fresh is a producers, I can't believe he made a cd. It was terrible. They need new people.

Lil Wayne getting Bad?

I thought Lil Wayne has stepped his game up by miles. I never like him but The Carter was a nice album.

Atwa_66

06-19-2005, 01:07 AM

Cash Money Love :D
haha, Tha Carter is kick ass, Plus all of his old **** is still great. His Hot Boys work was great, I'm telling you all, download the song "Too Hot" or "Respect My Mind" they are great beats, If you weren't a Lil Wayne or Hot Boys fan before you would think twice about it for real.

mic573

06-19-2005, 01:48 AM

oldgringo

06-19-2005, 03:04 AM

Hey Fix have you ever heard of that "A Piece of the Action" CD? It's various artists and it's pretty hard to find.

I've been looking for a couple of songs from it...they are both pretty good. The songs are:

Return to Sender - Butterflies

and

Xtracts of Slang - How Does it Feel?

If you've never heard of it could you check on mirc or whatever you use?

Also look for Common Ground - Sharin Poems.

run_for_your_effing_life

06-19-2005, 06:40 AM

1. The roots.the roots come alive
2.busta rhymes.the coming
3. wu tang...36 chamers
4 CaniBus....C
5.Busta ryhmes.when disater skrikes
6. Black star
7 acey alone.......all balls dont bounce
9.outkast ATL aliens
10..pharoh munch.internal affairs

MetalVomit

06-19-2005, 01:31 PM

Lil Wayne's albums before The Carter were trash in my opinion.

Cash Money is all trash in my opinion.

The Fix

06-19-2005, 05:09 PM

oldgringo

06-19-2005, 05:33 PM

yeah ill check for sure

Good lookin out...I haven't heard those songs in a grip but I remember them being good. Sharin Poems has the same beat as Large Profs IJUSWANNACHILL only a little different and better. The lyrics are kinda wack but the beat is silk.

Atwa_66

06-19-2005, 06:04 PM

Cash Money is all trash in my opinion.
Prince and the revolution are all trash and my opinion. Any guy who wears womens clothes are trash in my opinion though.

MetalVomit

06-19-2005, 06:16 PM

Prince and the revolution are all trash and my opinion. Any guy who wears womens clothes are trash in my opinion though.

Because I offended you're ignorant, commercialized rap clique, you wanna hate on a MUSICAL ICON? LMAO! Cash Money do nothing but degrade women and rhyme about money and accessories. Lil Wayne is the most talented out of their whole ****ty ass clique though. The Hot Boys-Guerilla Warfare album is their best effort. That is the only album from that record label worth anything.

Atwa_66

06-19-2005, 06:31 PM

Because I offended you're ignorant, commercialized rap clique, you wanna hate on a MUSICAL ICON? LMAO! Cash Money do nothing but degrade women and rhyme about money and accessories. Lil Wayne is the most talented out of their whole ****ty ass clique though. The Hot Boys-Guerilla Warfare album is their best effort. That is the only album from that record label worth anything.
Yeah, Juveniles album 400 Degreez had no record sales at all, definitely not the most by a cash money artist. I forgot Prince had anything to do with Hip-Hop I'm sorry, and by calling Cash Money "trash" does not offend me, everyone has their opinion and I respect it. I hate girly men, and you hate people who have mass record sales, it's cool.

MetalVomit

06-19-2005, 06:37 PM

Yeah, Juveniles album 400 Degreez had no record sales at all, definitely not the most by a cash money artist. I forgot Prince had anything to do with Hip-Hop I'm sorry, and by calling Cash Money "trash" does not offend me, everyone has their opinion and I respect it. I hate girly men, and you hate people who have mass record sales, it's cool.

Prince sure isnt hip hop, you brought his name up. I dont hate people with massive record sales. LMFAO. You gotta relax man. As for me hating people with massive record sales:

Prince
Power Rank 40
Musicians

Rank
Pay $49.7 mil 12
Web Hits 1,190,000 30
Press Clips 830 94
TV/Radio 6 93

Cover Stories 0

Musicology marked the end of his six-year hiatus from touring, and fans jumped at the chance to see him perform. Prince sold a whopping 1.4 million tickets—more than any other touring act in 2004. The simultaneous release of his Musicology album made it an even more lucrative year for the artist.

Rank Name Pay* Power rank
1. Madonna $50 million 8
2. Elton John $44 million 9
3. P. Diddy $36 million 20
4. Metallica $37.4 million 23
5. Shania Twain $34 million 29
6. Rod Stewart $31 million 32
7. Bette Midler $31 million 34
8. Prince $49.7 million 40
9. The Eagles $45 million 43
10. Van Halen $29.6 million 61

*2004
Source: Forbes.com

It's not about sales, it's about content. Like I said, Cash Money does nothing but degrade women and talk about money and accessories. That may be considered "girly" as well.

The Fix

06-19-2005, 06:40 PM

wow big rumor right now

jay-z and nas might do a collabo, thanks to kanye

btw atwa prince has moved some units in his day, far more than juve.

top selling artists according to the riaa (http://www.riaa.com/gp/bestsellers/topartists.asp)

^^^^^ it makes me really hate the beatles, all that money they musta made damn.......

MetalVomit

06-19-2005, 06:46 PM

MetalVomit

06-19-2005, 06:48 PM

Prince sure isnt hip hop, you brought his name up. I dont hate people with massive record sales. LMFAO. You gotta relax man. As for me hating people with massive record sales:

Prince
Power Rank 40
Musicians

Rank
Pay $49.7 mil 12
Web Hits 1,190,000 30
Press Clips 830 94
TV/Radio 6 93

Cover Stories 0

Musicology marked the end of his six-year hiatus from touring, and fans jumped at the chance to see him perform. Prince sold a whopping 1.4 million tickets—more than any other touring act in 2004. The simultaneous release of his Musicology album made it an even more lucrative year for the artist.

Rank Name Pay* Power rank
1. Madonna $50 million 8
2. Elton John $44 million 9
3. P. Diddy $36 million 20
4. Metallica $37.4 million 23
5. Shania Twain $34 million 29
6. Rod Stewart $31 million 32
7. Bette Midler $31 million 34
8. Prince $49.7 million 40
9. The Eagles $45 million 43
10. Van Halen $29.6 million 61

*2004
Source: Forbes.com

It's not about sales, it's about content. Like I said, Cash Money does nothing but degrade women and talk about money and accessories. That may be considered "girly" as well.

By the way Atwa, I think the Purple Rain soundtrack is certified diamond. Does anyone know if Speakerboxxx/The Love Below went diamond? Last I heard it was around 9 million or so sold. That's insane, and very good for hip hop.

The Fix

06-19-2005, 06:54 PM

I dont see why they wouldnt collaborate eventually. Should be dope.
hopefully they put thier past behind them and make an entire album together, that would be crazy

.::EnRiQuE::.

06-19-2005, 08:41 PM

I like Daddy Yankee and all dat Reggaeton stuff.If anyone needs a list on good good good good songs to download i can give 'em sum

MetalVomit

06-20-2005, 12:04 AM

hopefully they put thier past behind them and make an entire album together, that would be crazy

We need that Nas and AZ album. That **** cannot fail.

mic573

06-20-2005, 12:26 AM

The Fix

06-20-2005, 02:29 PM

Jay-z and Nas wouldn't be a good combination. Jay-z, Beanie Sigel and Face need to do a whole album together. Every song they made together has been nice. Nas and AZ has always been a good combination.
especially beanie and face, mom praying and mack and brad were great collabos.

tupac and scarface is suppossed to drop with some never heard material.... i cant wait for that

mic573

06-20-2005, 05:57 PM

I have heard about the Face and Pac album but I think they are just discussing it right now. There are no real plans to do one yet.

MetalVomit

06-20-2005, 06:21 PM

especially beanie and face, mom praying and mack and brad were great collabos.

tupac and scarface is suppossed to drop with some never heard material.... i cant wait for that

I dont think it would be solid enough as an entire album. I doubt they did that many tracks together before 2pac died. Nice Masta Ace quote, he ate that wack ass boogieman kid alive. "You cant spit ***** so you obviously must swallow"=ill ****.

Atwa_66

06-20-2005, 07:06 PM

I like Daddy Yankee and all dat Reggaeton stuff.If anyone needs a list on good good good good songs to download i can give 'em sum
Yeah reggaeton is the ****. I love all Daddy Yankees stuff, and Pitbull is pretty good too.

MetalVomit

06-20-2005, 07:11 PM

Yeah reggaeton is the ****. I love all Daddy Yankees stuff, and Pitbull is pretty good too.

Daddy Yankee is cool, I think Pitbull's album was wack though. Tego Calderon is dope. I gotta pick up some of his stuff.

mic573

06-20-2005, 08:03 PM

I don't care for that reggaeton style.

Pico Hollywood

06-21-2005, 06:43 AM

Daddy Yankee is cool, I think Pitbull's album was wack though. Tego Calderon is dope. I gotta pick up some of his stuff.

Tego Calderon is the **** pitbull's album was aight he just needs to take lil jon of the spanish songs

MetalVomit

06-21-2005, 11:38 AM

Tego Calderon is the **** pitbull's album was aight he just needs to take lil jon of the spanish songs

I hope that it doesnt come to everyone trying to do reggaeton now that it's becoming popular. I'm not the biggest fan of it, but some of it is nice.

Atwa_66

06-22-2005, 04:41 PM

Daddy Yankee is cool, I think Pitbull's album was wack though. Tego Calderon is dope. I gotta pick up some of his stuff.
Daddy Yankees album Bario Fino is one of the sickest reggaeton records out right now

The Fix

06-22-2005, 10:33 PM

I have heard about the Face and Pac album but I think they are just discussing it right now. There are no real plans to do one yet.
forreal? ive alredy heard release dates and everything, they should def go thru with it.... both of em killed smile

MetalVomit

06-22-2005, 10:34 PM

I put up that new MF DOOM/Dangermouse track in the music spot.

The Fix

06-22-2005, 10:36 PM

I dont think it would be solid enough as an entire album. I doubt they did that many tracks together before 2pac died. Nice Masta Ace quote, he ate that wack ass boogieman kid alive. "You cant spit ***** so you obviously must swallow"=ill ****.
ive heard they did a bunch of stuff together and tupac has been quoted saying scarface is his fav rapper..... you never know, tupac was known for making large quantities of songs.... him and face could have done like 20 in 3 days

The Fix

06-22-2005, 10:36 PM

I put up that new MF DOOM/Dangermouse track in the music spot.
ill chech it out...

mf doom is one of the nicest doing it......

i cant wait for that mf doom vs ironman(ghostface) to drop

MetalVomit

06-22-2005, 10:37 PM

ive heard they did a bunch of stuff together and tupac has been quoted saying scarface is his fav rapper..... you never know, tupac was known for making large quantities of songs.... him and face could have done like 20 in 3 days

I dont think they did though. I think they would have surfaced by now. "Smile" is the **** though.

The Fix

06-22-2005, 10:39 PM

I dont think they did though. I think they would have surfaced by now. "Smile" is the **** though.
ive heard face kept some stuff unreleased after pac died....
plus anything is better than that loyal to the game **** that g-unit ruined

MetalVomit

06-22-2005, 10:53 PM

ive heard face kept some stuff unreleased after pac died....
plus anything is better than that loyal to the game **** that g-unit ruined

Yeah, you're not kidding about that. Fix, who's your 5 favorite MC's? Mine are:

Rakim
KRS-ONE
MF DOOM
Chino XL
Slick Rick
Scarface
Nas

sorry, had to keep going.

The Fix

06-22-2005, 11:08 PM

Yeah, you're not kidding about that. Fix, who's your 5 favorite MC's? Mine are:

Rakim
KRS-ONE
MF DOOM
Chino XL
Slick Rick
Scarface
Nas

sorry, had to keep going.

scarface
wu tang
ghostface- solo
cormega
ice cube
jay-z
slick rick.... greatest story teller ever imo

its actually hard to name some cause i know ill left some guys out that i look for....

neils7147933

06-23-2005, 09:34 AM

We need that Nas and AZ album. That **** cannot fail.
It did. It was called The Firm

neils7147933

06-23-2005, 10:04 AM

Question for some of the more learned followers of hip-hop:

Who's an outsider who was a celebrity because of something besides hip-hop, who put out a decent album anyway?

Most of us have heard some rap music, much of it wretched, from actors/athletes like Mr. T, Randy Savage, Cedric Ceballos, Allen Iverson, Chris Webber, Deion Sanders, Konnan, Heather Hunter, Ron Killings, Ron Jeremy, Roy Jones Jr., The Chicago Bears (lol), etc. - Jamie Foxx, Eddie Murphy, Tisha Campbell have done R&B/dance discs - most of it is garbage, but I enjoyed a good bit of Shaq-Fu: Da Return, maybe because it was more of a mix tape with Shaq cameos rather than a full solo effort, but it did contain the best Shaq solo single ever "Biological Didn't Bother"

Also, I've only heard tracks 1-8, but the John Cena album really isn't bad. It has a 1994 feel to it; Cena did a good thing by hiring Bumpy Knuckles to produce it (Foxx's rap on "Flow Easy" is the ****, too) and apparently the slowed-down almost nursery rhyme style he exhibits at live WWE events isn't what he's limited to - apparently the white dude from the Massachusetts 'burbs freestyled nicely on 106 & Park (anyone have those to upload...) Anyway, it's not a classic, but there are a couple tracks on there that are quite good, which shows that a great producer needs only a competent, not an outstanding, MC to pull out a decent single

MetalVomit

06-23-2005, 10:07 AM