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oldgringo 07-19-2007, 10:23 PM that **** wasnt solid homie...
"i dont think you listen to 90% of the stuff you talk about..."..since when do I claim to lsiten to underground hip hop? lol
i am not going to listen to **** ass artists that record from a damn basement. music is there to ENTERTAIN me, not so i can see some *** that makes beats from fruity loops and raps from cool edit pro. so yeah, shut it. goofy ass frat boy.
yeah it was. don't diss good music to save face.
pharoahe monch isn't underground hip hop guy. his songs have been featured in hollywood movies and he has been signed to two pretty prominent labels.
it's sad how you care about what other people think of what you listen to. i bet you attempt to be the authority on music amongst your low life friends and they listen to you like you know something. a lot of underground music is garbage, but throwing it all in the same boat and acting like it's not cool to listen to something labeled underground is stupid. good music is good music...and the music i upload on this site is just that.
goofy ass frat boy? far from it. lot prettier than you though emeka.
Smokin' 07-19-2007, 10:27 PM yeah it was. don't diss good music to save face.
pharoahe monch isn't underground hip hop guy. his songs have been featured in hollywood movies and he has been signed to two pretty prominent labels.
it's sad how you care about what other people think of what you listen to. i bet you attempt to be the authority on music amongst your low life friends and they listen to you like you know something. a lot of underground music is garbage, but throwing it all in the same boat and acting like it's not cool to listen to something labeled underground is stupid. good music is good music...and the music i upload on this site is just that.
goofy ass frat boy? far from it. lot prettier than you though emeka.
yeah monch isn't underground but the average dude gives a rat's ass about his music.
i dont care abotu what people think of my music. it's just a fact that geeks like yourself listen to that Murs crap. I am into the partying and making money lifestyle so I like listen to **** that gets my hyped and in a party mood. I dont listen to gay **** like Rakim, Murs, Aesop Rock because that **** is really corny. Those guys that make that music are nerds, so they attract nerds that listen to it.
hows college frat boy?? mommy and daddy paying for everything???
The Fix 07-19-2007, 10:33 PM yeah monch isn't underground but the average dude gives a rat's ass about his music.
i dont care abotu what people think of my music. it's just a fact that geeks like yourself listen to that Murs crap. I am into the partying and making money lifestyle so I like listen to **** that gets my hyped and in a party mood. I dont listen to gay **** like Rakim, Murs, Aesop Rock because that **** is really corny. Those guys that make that music are nerds, so they attract nerds that listen to it.
hows college frat boy?? mommy and daddy paying for everything???
the average dude is an idiot and listens to whatever is playing that day on the radio.... the average dude has "my humps" on his ipod because he thought it was cool. its like cows in a slaughter house....they dont know any better.
Smokin' 07-19-2007, 10:36 PM Sorry but I am speaking from experience. All the nerds I have ever known that are big hip hop fans listen to that gay underground ****. Big L, Talib, Mos Def...these guys aint underground to me. But fools like Murs and the guys Gringo mentions those guys are underground.
It's made from corny guys..and corny guys buy and play that ****. Sorry if the truth hurts fellas.
MetalVomit 07-19-2007, 10:38 PM yeah monch isn't underground but the average dude gives a rat's ass about his music.
i dont care abotu what people think of my music. it's just a fact that geeks like yourself listen to that Murs crap. I am into the partying and making money lifestyle so I like listen to **** that gets my hyped and in a party mood. I dont listen to gay **** like Rakim, Murs, Aesop Rock because that **** is really corny. Those guys that make that music are nerds, so they attract nerds that listen to it.
hows college frat boy?? mommy and daddy paying for everything???
here's that video you pm'd me for:luvbed:
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Seriously, have you listened to Murs? Or have you just heard maybe a song or 2 that you didnt like and just write him off?
Smokin' 07-19-2007, 10:39 PM Honestly, I listened to 6 songs on his album. This one link that you sent me and I deemed it crap.
The Fix 07-19-2007, 10:41 PM Sorry but I am speaking from experience. All the nerds I have ever known that are big hip hop fans listen to that gay underground ****. Big L, Talib, Mos Def...these guys aint underground to me. But fools like Murs and the guys Gringo mentions those guys are underground.
It's made from corny guys..and corny guys buy and play that ****. Sorry if the truth hurts fellas.
your being lead on by music executives.... they tell you its hot... you follow... plain and simple.
MetalVomit 07-19-2007, 10:49 PM Sorry but I am speaking from experience. All the nerds I have ever known that are big hip hop fans listen to that gay underground ****. Big L, Talib, Mos Def...these guys aint underground to me. But fools like Murs and the guys Gringo mentions those guys are underground.
It's made from corny guys..and corny guys buy and play that ****. Sorry if the truth hurts fellas.
Your opinion on what's "corny" does not equal the truth my misguided friend. I remember when I was in 8th, 9th grade, I was all into that No Limit ****. The beats were heavy, and they dropped a lot of catchy songs. Then, I grew up, and realized the importance of music, from more than what you would call "entertaining" point of view. Music is a product, but it's also an art.
oldgringo 07-19-2007, 11:18 PM yeah monch isn't underground but the average dude gives a rat's ass about his music.
i dont care abotu what people think of my music. it's just a fact that geeks like yourself listen to that Murs crap. I am into the partying and making money lifestyle so I like listen to **** that gets my hyped and in a party mood. I dont listen to gay **** like Rakim, Murs, Aesop Rock because that **** is really corny. Those guys that make that music are nerds, so they attract nerds that listen to it.
hows college frat boy?? mommy and daddy paying for everything???
so you're average? i always just thought you were sad.
yes you do care about what people think of your music.
I am into the partying and making money lifestyle
What do you call that? I call it caring about what people think of your music and your image stanley. What would you ever do if one of your fresh crew members found out you listened to Rakim?!?!?! OH NO!!!
Rakim for nerds/geeks/dorks huh? You are dumb. You think Canibus is one of the best out there....the self proclaimed computer nerd rapper.
College is great. Pretty soon i'll have a piece of paper that tells me I'm smart and I can get a nice job and lead a lifestyle that permits me to party and make a nice chunk of money...you'll envy me more than you already do. Are you really trying to diss me because I'm getting an education though? Why do you keep responding? You must be having a hard day coping with your sorry situation in bum**** Canada today.
Smokin' 07-19-2007, 11:36 PM so you're average? i always just thought you were sad.
yes you do care about what people think of your music.
What do you call that? I call it caring about what people think of your music and your image stanley. What would you ever do if one of your fresh crew members found out you listened to Rakim?!?!?! OH NO!!!
Rakim for nerds/geeks/dorks huh? You are dumb. You think Canibus is one of the best out there....the self proclaimed computer nerd rapper.
College is great. Pretty soon i'll have a piece of paper that tells me I'm smart and I can get a nice job and lead a lifestyle that permits me to party and make a nice chunk of money...you'll envy me more than you already do. Are you really trying to diss me because I'm getting an education though? Why do you keep responding? You must be having a hard day coping with your sorry situation in bum**** Canada today.
lol son like I would really give a **** what people think of me or my music, PERIOD. I listen to a lot of R&B sympy type **** that a lot of people would call gay or sommin.
LOL @ u thinking im cussing you for giong to college....i'm in college too smart guy..
oh and im in calgary, alberta...arent u in some **** town in michigan or some ****?
oldgringo 07-19-2007, 11:48 PM lol son like I would really give a **** what people think of me or my music, PERIOD. I listen to a lot of R&B sympy type **** that a lot of people would call gay or sommin.
LOL @ u thinking im cussing you for giong to college....i'm in college too smart guy..
oh and im in calgary, alberta...arent u in some **** town in michigan or some ****?
Son. I'm older than you. Hah...you're trying to sound cool again....I thought we talked about this.
Community College doesn't count smokin.
I'm from Ann Arbor. One of the most desirable places to live in Michigan, a true university town. Calgary huh? Flames and Tim Horton's on Friday nights must get old....you make money slangin donuts or what?
Smokin' 07-19-2007, 11:50 PM Son. I'm older than you. Hah...you're trying to sound cool again....I thought we talked about this.
Community College doesn't count smokin.
I'm from Ann Arbor. One of the most desirable places to live in Michigan, a true university town. Calgary huh? Flames and Tim Horton's on Friday nights must get old....you make money slangin donuts or what?
I'm 18 bud, and I've been out of school for a year and in college for 6 months.
Ann Arbor...who cares if its a university town its still a small ass place with probably not much going on. The economy in Mich is ****ing ****ty, you'll probably have to move up here if you wanna make some real money.
And Calgary has more then a million people homie, is the richest city in north america. Get your facts straight.
oldgringo 07-19-2007, 11:57 PM I'm 18 bud, and I've been out of school for a year and in college for 6 months.
Ann Arbor...who cares if its a university town its still a small ass place with probably not much going on. The economy in Mich is ****ing ****ty, you'll probably have to move up here if you wanna make some real money.
And Calgary has more then a million people homie, is the richest city in north america. Get your facts straight.
I don't acknowledge JuCo. Come on...tell me how you go to a prestigious university now...
There is a lot going on here. Like I said, it's a desirable place to live. Downtown night life is great, you can walk from bar to bar, plenty of College girls everywhere.
Or I could just move to Chicago, where I am most certainly going anyway, you simple mother****er, sorry, homie.
Smokin' 07-20-2007, 12:01 AM I don't acknowledge JuCo. Come on...tell me how you go to a prestigious university now...
There is a lot going on here. Like I said, it's a desirable place to live. Downtown night life is great, you can walk from bar to bar, plenty of College girls everywhere.
Or I could just move to Chicago, where I am most certainly going anyway, you simple mother****er, sorry, homie.
lol I am taknig a transfer program in Mt Royal at the moment...after my 2 years is up I go straight to the U of C.
Congrats on your downtown life man, we all know you aint getting **** with that face/smile of yours lolllll
oldgringo 07-20-2007, 12:15 AM lol I am taknig a transfer program in Mt Royal at the moment...after my 2 years is up I go straight to the U of C.
Congrats on your downtown life man, we all know you aint getting **** with that face/smile of yours lolllll
So we have established that you don't have any place talking about rap.
We have established that you feel the need to compare whatever garbage life you're leading to mine. You failed there.
Now you move on to trying to comment on the way I look...another failure as I already know I'm a handsome mother****er.
I think we're just starting to have fun though. Do you have the name of another song you just heard that I have already listened to a million times?
Smokin' 07-20-2007, 01:14 AM So we have established that you don't have any place talking about rap.
We have established that you feel the need to compare whatever garbage life you're leading to mine. You failed there.
Now you move on to trying to comment on the way I look...another failure as I already know I'm a handsome mother****er.
I think we're just starting to have fun though. Do you have the name of another song you just heard that I have already listened to a million times?
lol, i bow down to your immense knowledge of hip hop. please let me suck your dick.
and for the record bro, i have seen your mug and especially your goofy smile and i wouldnt call that 'handsome' by any means.
oldgringo 07-20-2007, 01:24 AM lol, i bow down to your immense knowledge of hip hop. please let me suck your dick.
and for the record bro, i have seen your mug and especially your goofy smile and i wouldnt call that 'handsome' by any means.
great response. you're right, you don't know ****. you take the popular party music angle, but it turns out i got dem ****s covered too.
i'm handsome bro. i know this bro. goofy smile? several ****tails will do that to a man, but i'm still a thoroughbred. wipe me down son.
ROSEWOOD 07-20-2007, 03:07 PM I don't acknowledge JuCo. Come on...tell me how you go to a prestigious university now...
There is a lot going on here. Like I said, it's a desirable place to live. Downtown night life is great, you can walk from bar to bar, plenty of College girls everywhere.
Or I could just move to Chicago, where I am most certainly going anyway, you simple mother****er, sorry, homie.
No disrespect but if you don't acknowledge Juco then you are Stupid...Some of the most powerful people in the world attended Juco's..hell some didn't even attend college...College is actually over rated...I'm a Juco graduate as well as a University Graduate..Education is Education playa...
Smokin..Stay in school playa..Don't let cat like this guy stop you from being the best you can be..Most job would rather hire someone with more trade/technical education than someone that took tons of bull**** classes at a University..
Jim_Davis 07-20-2007, 03:55 PM Even though I think Smokin is a prick I do agree with what hes been saying. Does Smokin rap or produce?
flipside 07-20-2007, 08:30 PM No disrespect but if you don't acknowledge Juco then you are Stupid...Some of the most powerful people in the world attended Juco's..hell some didn't even attend college...College is actually over rated...I'm a Juco graduate as well as a University Graduate..Education is Education playa...
Smokin..Stay in school playa..Don't let cat like this guy stop you from being the best you can be..Most job would rather hire someone with more trade/technical education than someone that took tons of bull**** classes at a University..
im going to law school right now. does that mean the guy learning how to weld will be better off than me, say in about 4 years time?
Smokin' 07-21-2007, 12:10 AM im going to law school right now. does that mean the guy learning how to weld will be better off than me, say in about 4 years time?
yeah a degree isn't all that. All it is is a piece of paper. More and more jobs toady are highering guys with actual work/life EXPERIENCE. Not little ***s that get there education payed for by mommy and daddy and live on res where all the peeps who were nerds in high school. Not naming any names...cough gringo cough. however, i shouldn't really be one talking as I am getting a 4 year degree.
hahaha, yeah anyway. welders make good money. It's all about pimping the system. These dudes can start there own business and make a bundle. You probably woudln't know that because your a coddled littel ***got. Probably still livin' off mommy and daddy's money.
ROSEWOOD 07-22-2007, 01:16 PM im going to law school right now. does that mean the guy learning how to weld will be better off than me, say in about 4 years time?
Yea as a welder...everyone in America know that you finish law school when you're in your 30's...just bull****in playa...but on the cool, any skill/trade, employers would rather hire a student with direct trade learn as oppose to a dude taking three electives of musice when he/she is trying to become a doctor...
MetalVomit 07-24-2007, 11:21 AM After making a name for himself via lyricism and dissing your favorite celebrity, wordsmith Chino XL has inked a new deal with Machete Records/PAC.
Long time Chino fans will recall his debut album, 1996’s Here to Save You All, which showcased his lyrical ability and saw him in the cross hairs of deceased emcee, 2Pac after making a alleging that Pac was raped while in prison.
Unfortunately for die hard fans, Chino walked away from the game and transitioned to the large and small screen. He appeared on Reno 911, CSI: Miami, The Young and the Restless, and the big screen’s Alex and Emma (starring Kate Hudson and Luke Wilson).
Despite his success with acting, Chino wouldn’t stay away from the booth forever.
In 2005, he returned with I Told You So, which boasted collaborations with Hip Hop veterans Kool G. Rap and B. Real (of Cypress Hill fame).
No release date is available at press time, but MTV personality Sway, says Chino’s new material connected with him “in a major way.”
“The music is different, not all in one sound or genre, it’s just good music all around,” he adds.
“Having Chino XL join the Machete family is a great honor and we are excited about the project and the future,” Machete Records President Gustavo Lopez says of the partnership.
For more information on Chino XL or Machete Records, visit www.myspace.com/chinoxl or www.macheterecords.com.
The Raging Bull 08-05-2007, 09:23 AM Bump it up
The Fix 08-05-2007, 12:22 PM yeah a degree isn't all that. All it is is a piece of paper. More and more jobs toady are highering guys with actual work/life EXPERIENCE. Not little ***s that get there education payed for by mommy and daddy and live on res where all the peeps who were nerds in high school. Not naming any names...cough gringo cough. however, i shouldn't really be one talking as I am getting a 4 year degree.
hahaha, yeah anyway. welders make good money. It's all about pimping the system. These dudes can start there own business and make a bundle. You probably woudln't know that because your a coddled littel ***got. Probably still livin' off mommy and daddy's money.
ill have a degree in 3 more years, asscunt....
MetalVomit 10-25-2008, 03:09 PM Q-Tip is coming back soon.
PATO 1 10-26-2008, 11:20 AM anyone heard the new chis brown tune flying solo with dre
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZdhFhcsuPI
i think its another great tune from chris b
Mr. Ryan 10-26-2008, 02:29 PM Q-Tip is coming back soon.
Q-Tip best raps have come in his solo career, I thought Phife was the talent of Tribe.
MetalVomit 04-06-2009, 11:57 PM Born like this has been in constant rotation for me lately. here's a review from notoriously fickle Pitchfork, they gave it an 8 out of 10.
What the hell happened to Daniel Dumile? People used to think MF DOOM was slacking if he only released one album a year, but sometime after The Mouse and the Mask, the dude just up and vanished. That led to about three years' worth of fanbase-angering concerts featuring alleged impostors, theoretically planned albums promising Ghostface collaborations or a KMD revival that never arrived, scattered production work heavy on already-familiar Special Herbs leftovers, and a remixed Madvillainy faux-sequel with enough good-to-great Madlib beats to make you wish DOOM actually recorded new lyrics over them. The last time he went this far underground, his brother had just been killed and Elektra had booted KMD off the roster because Black Bastards was too controversial and uncommercial. So what could have provoked him to lay low in the latter half of this decade right when he seemed to be hitting critical pop-culture mass, limiting himself in recent years to sparse guest verses and the occasional official dispatch that he wasn't, in fact, dead?
I don't have the answer to that question, but judging from the grimy, sinister lyricism displayed on Born Like This, at least this much is apparent: DOOM is not coming back just to dick around. It takes a little while to realize this, since the album feels strangely underformed on initial listens: A lot of tracks are one-verse quickies if they even feature DOOM at all, there's the occasional whiff of the overfamiliar (the 500th repurposing of Dilla's "Lightworks"; an appearance of the three-year-old Ghostface/DOOM track "Angelz"; a beat that samples ESG's "UFO"), and the whole thing's just barely over 40 minutes. But there's something in DOOM's voice-- a focused rasp that's subtly grown slightly more ragged and intense-- that reveals something darker and deeper than the cartoon world in which he made himself a jocular adversary. Brak, Japanese space monsters, and the Fantastic Four have given way here to Charles Bukowski, whose apocalyptic "Dinosauria, We" gives the album its title and acts as the intro to the pivotal cut "Cellz". In that track, DOOM punctuates one of the most tightly knotted verses of his career by making note of those who miss the deeper meaning: "Metalface Finster, playin' with the dirty money/ Sinister, don't know what he sayin' but the words be funny."
Yeah, Born Like This is still pretty funny; anyone who's amused by the kinds of strange linguistic and lyrical parallels and internal rhymes nobody else would think of has a good repertoire of quotable lines to draw from. But there's a stronger undercurrent of bitterness and a downturn in comedy, some of which feels tied in to a renewed malevolence in his villainous guise and some of which speaks towards something more personal. "Once sold an inbred skinhead a n----r joke/ Plus a brand-new chrome smoker with the triggers broke," he spits in "Gazzillion Ear", an admission that partially echoes the same concerns that led Dave Chappelle to take himself off TV and is followed up on fleetingly in "Ballskin": "Chrome grown men doin' business with Anglo Sax'n'em/ Lackin' swing but that banjo's so relaxin'."
And the overall subject matter can get grimier than Madvillainy converts are used to. "Absolutely" envisions a widely organized revenge plot against the entire legal system-- from snitches to police to judges-- where offending parties get their lattes poisoned and their tongues ripped out. "Rap Ambush" compares his M.O. to an insurgent attacking troops with guerilla tactics. And "Batty Boyz" features more concentrated homophobia than damn near any hip-hop track I've heard this decade, even if it's a little too goofy to be excessively hateful-- it's all aimed at Superman, Batman, and Robin on some hybrid "Rapper's Delight"/Seduction of the Innocent business, though it could also be a metaphor clowning on the ripped, shirtless-posing "homo thug" MCs DOOM considers adversaries. ("Batty Boyz" also samples a Jeff Dunham routine; between this and the Larry the Cable Guy clips in last year's Jake One collab "Get 'Er Done" it's possible that DOOM has tried to tone down his comedic streak by invoking comedians that aren't actually funny.)
The more time you spend with Born Like This, the less the flaws actually feel like flaws and more like interesting diversions. "Yessir" is the track with the "UFO" sample and features Raekwon going solo, but the Chef sounds focused and fierce even if it feels like he's been beamed in from a completely different album. "Angelz" isn't necessarily improved with an added boom-clap kick to bolster its Charlie's Angels soundtrack loop, but hearing Ghostface and DOOM pull off abstract storytelling raps on the same track never gets old. And on an album filled with great production-- including four superb contributions from Jake One, Madlib assembling some top-notch gritty, noir-caliber soul jazz ambience on "Absolutely" and some of DOOM's most wide-ranging and bugged-out production yet (dude even ****s with warped Auto-Tune and Run-DMC drum machines on "Supervillainz")-- the out-of-the-vaults Dilla beat turns out to be the best. Not "Lightworks" (which DOOM rocks anyways), but "Gazzillion Ear", which makes inspired jumps between haunted-house soul and Midnight Express Moroder like it's no big deal.
It's funny that Born Like This starts off feeling unfinished and, a couple listens later, starts to resonate as strongly as anything he's done since Madvillainy. I don't know if Born Like This arose from disillusionment or fatigue or something else, but whatever caused DOOM to scale back his output and go off the grid, he's only come back from it sharper, stronger, and more powerful than before. Villains don't really die, they just emerge from the rubble even more determined to make the world see their way
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