Southpaw16BF
03-08-2010, 01:58 PM
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View Full Version : Who In Your Opinion Is The Greatest Trainer Of All Time? Southpaw16BF 03-08-2010, 01:58 PM only pick allowed sonnyboyx2 03-08-2010, 02:26 PM Ray Arcel is the greatest ever NChristo 03-08-2010, 02:40 PM Ray's already been said so Eddie Futch BattlingNelson 03-08-2010, 02:45 PM Eddie Futch. Angelo Dundee and Emanuel Stewart deserves mention as well. 1SILVA 03-08-2010, 02:47 PM only pick allowed Eddie Futch Mike McCallum Riddick Bowe Joe Frazier Ken Norton Alexis Arguello Larry Holmes and many, many more!!!!!!!!!!! sonnyboyx2 03-08-2010, 03:09 PM Ray Arcel was cornerman to such legendary talents as Henry Armstrong, Jack Kid Berg, Lou Brouillard, Cerefino Garcia, Sixto Escobar, Kid Gavilan, Benny Leonard, Charley Phil Rosenberg, Barney Ross, Tony Zale, Ezzard Charles, Freddie Steele, Roberto Duran, Larry Holmes and many many more BennyST 03-09-2010, 08:03 AM I think I'd have to go with Ray Arcel. So many great champions have been from his corner. Futch is another. Lots of really great trainers though. Snopkins 03-09-2010, 08:44 AM Eddie Futch is overrated. CarlosG815 03-09-2010, 11:36 AM he also trained berbick and michael spinks who were both champions mrboxer 03-09-2010, 12:33 PM the fighter is the one who wins of loses or draws,a trainer just helps a fighter with his training regiment,thats it, he helps a boxer with the taping of his hands holds the pads yells out time and a couple of other little things:boxing: Junito-Rulez 03-09-2010, 02:50 PM Floyd Mayweather Sr. Toney616 03-09-2010, 02:55 PM Eddie Futch Mike McCallum Riddick Bowe Joe Frazier Ken Norton Alexis Arguello Larry Holmes and many, many more!!!!!!!!!!! I agree Futch was a great trainer and trained some great fighters as well. Manny is overrated ive never been impressed with the defensive ablitiles of any of his fighters. Calilloyd 03-10-2010, 04:10 PM only pick allowed Eddie Futch HaglerSteelChin 03-10-2010, 07:54 PM I don't think he is the greatest of all time but wanted to give honorable mention to Angelo Dundee. Because he sufferes the same problem Phil Jackson has in the NBA. People say Phil Jackson had Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Shaq etc. But none of those players won anything until Jackson became the head coach. Angelo knew how to work different fighters and i believe got the most out of guys like Ali, SRL, Ramos, old Foreman, Napoles, Ellis, Basillio, Bazooka Gomez, Nunn, Luis Rodriguez etc. People say nothing special by saying "your blowing it kid" but i have seen so many trainers and corners blow fights by not giving a sense of urgency to fighters. FOr example, Nacho Beristain who is a HOF often plays down the opponents and told Daniel Zaragoza that Eric Morales was a Novato(rookie) and that he didn't need to fear his generic skills, he dosen't tell JMM to go for the Kill when he fights Chris John knowing that they are in indonesia and winning a decision is about as safe as an open cookie jar near Michael Moore. Also remember the DLH vs Trinidad fight, the DLH corner basically tells DLH "a few more rds and we go home", implying the fight is won just hang in there and not be active the last rds. poet682006 03-10-2010, 08:36 PM 1A. Eddie Futch 1B. Ray Arcel A shout out to Jack Blackburn: Haven't seen him mentioned yet :) Poet NonelikeNunn 03-10-2010, 11:24 PM As far as the greatest thats a hard call but as far as most entertaining in the corner I would pick Teddy Atlas without a second thought. His cornering during the Moorer/Holyfield fight was pure gold hilarity. Also Emanual Steward has had some good moments especially when he was young and would get overexcited and leap through the ropes like a ninja during round breaks. sonnyboyx2 03-11-2010, 02:26 AM 1A. Eddie Futch 1B. Ray Arcel A shout out to Jack Blackburn: Haven't seen him mentioned yet :) Poet Ray Arcel taught Eddie Futch his trade. The Beatles 03-11-2010, 02:54 AM Angelo Dundee Muhammad Ali, Carmen Basilio, Ralph Dupas, Jimmy Ellis, George Foreman, Slobodan Kacar, Sugar Ray Leonard, Jose Napoles, Michael Nunn, Willie Pastrano, Sugar Ramos, Luis Manuel Rodriguez, Pinklon Thomas JAB5239 03-11-2010, 03:05 AM Lot of great trainers named and deservedly so. Im partial to the guys like Futch, Arcel and Steward who actually devoled guys above those who just took over talented careers. cooper5 03-11-2010, 05:17 AM Since Futch and Dundee have been named, I'd like to give honorable mention to Lou Duva. Brought up those guys from the olympics Pernell Whitaker, Evander Holyfield, Meldrick Taylor, Tyrell Biggs. He also trained Rocky Lockridge, Johnny Bumphas and Vernon Forrest from the begining. I believe he trained these guys he trained from their debut to their title run. Many trainers join fighters after they are champions for the big money, after they have been taught the basics. poet682006 03-11-2010, 09:43 AM Since Futch and Dundee have been named, I'd like to give honorable mention to Lou Duva. Brought up those guys from the olympics Pernell Whitaker, Evander Holyfield, Meldrick Taylor, Tyrell Biggs. He also trained Rocky Lockridge, Johnny Bumphas and Vernon Forrest from the begining. I believe he trained these guys he trained from their debut to their title run. Many trainers join fighters after they are champions for the big money, after they have been taught the basics. Mostly it was George Benton doing the actual training though. Poet |