View Full Version : Tyson, L. Lewis, and Brewster


TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 04:42 AM
All three of these fighters have KO'd Golota in dramatic fashion. Golota has proven throughout his career to be very tough and skilled. It is possible the he out fought champions, Bowe twice, Bryd, and Ruiz. His losses to Tyson and LL where pretty much overlooked because hell it tyson and LL. So what does this say for Brewster? Is he really just that damn good to do what 3 prior champions couldn't? In his last 8 fights he won 7 by KO, and the other fight was his best friend who he admitted let his personal feeling get in the way of business. Yesterday Boxrec had brewster ranked 22. They had a world champion ranked #22 that is crazy. Out the the 21 fighters ranked over him, the only one i can really see beating brewster is Toney. VK and would be very good fights that could go anyway. So be honest with yourselves and please tell who could actually beat brewster and why?

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 05:02 AM
I just watched the fight again, Did anyone notice that Brewter is a righty, yet he Kd Golota 3 times with his left, how powerful is this guy?

moochi
05-22-2005, 05:47 AM
Brewster done well, credit to him, but we all know that he just caught a cold golota......he was a bit lucky whether you like it or not?

If he lets this success go to his head, he will get KO'd himself.

Let's not get too enthusiastic over this win.

What Time Is IT?
05-22-2005, 05:53 AM
All three of these fighters have KO'd Golota in dramatic fashion. Golota has proven throughout his career to be very tough and skilled. It is possible the he out fought champions, Bowe twice, Bryd, and Ruiz. His losses to Tyson and LL where pretty much overlooked because hell it tyson and LL. So what does this say for Brewster? Is he really just that damn good to do what 3 prior champions couldn't? In his last 8 fights he won 7 by KO, and the other fight was his best friend who he admitted let his personal feeling get in the way of business. Yesterday Boxrec had brewster ranked 22. They had a world champion ranked #22 that is crazy. Out the the 21 fighters ranked over him, the only one i can really see beating brewster is Toney. VK and would be very good fights that could go anyway. So be honest with yourselves and please tell who could actually beat brewster and why?

While I pretty much agree with you, Tyson didn't ko Golota. The sorry bastard quit. :wt:

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 07:53 AM
Brewster done well, credit to him, but we all know that he just caught a cold golota......he was a bit lucky whether you like it or not?

If he lets this success go to his head, he will get KO'd himself.

Let's not get too enthusiastic over this win.

I like that, Brewster makes it look so easy, that everone's response is that he got lucky. I've heard that in his past 3 fights

!! Anorak
05-22-2005, 08:17 AM
I liked the look of shock on Golota's face, that was funny.

What's the story with Golota's chin then?

The Troll
05-22-2005, 08:25 AM
I liked the look of shock on Golota's face, that was funny.

What's the story with Golota's chin then?


I dont really think he an issue with his chin from wathcing him slog it out with Bowe. But he has some psychological problems. If he fought ever single fight of his career in a hostile environment. I think he would never lose. Pressure crushes this guy. Fighting in front of the hometown crowd, living up to expectations high expectations, he cannot handle.

When he fought Bowe in Bowe's hometown crowd in Brookly with a mostly pro Bowe crowd and Bowe was the favorite he did awesome. But Golota being the favorite is what kills him. He was the favorite againt Lennox Lewis too. And look what happened. And against Tyson he was expected to do well. Golota just cant deal with pressure, he cant deal with living up to others expectations. And like I said he if he fought every fight in a hostile atmosphere and nobody expected anything from him but bumb actions I think he would never lose.

BadMagick
05-22-2005, 08:49 AM
Tyson didn't KO him, Glotota walked away after 2. That's hardly a KO, even though they count it as a TKO, it's still not a real KO.

Also, Golota is the biggest ***** in boxing. He starts to get hurt a bit, and he quits. Tyson, Grant, etc.

PBDS
05-22-2005, 09:04 AM
All three of these fighters have KO'd Golota in dramatic fashion. Golota has proven throughout his career to be very tough and skilled. It is possible the he out fought champions, Bowe twice, Bryd, and Ruiz. His losses to Tyson and LL where pretty much overlooked because hell it tyson and LL. So what does this say for Brewster? Is he really just that damn good to do what 3 prior champions couldn't? In his last 8 fights he won 7 by KO, and the other fight was his best friend who he admitted let his personal feeling get in the way of business. Yesterday Boxrec had brewster ranked 22. They had a world champion ranked #22 that is crazy. Out the the 21 fighters ranked over him, the only one i can really see beating brewster is Toney. VK and would be very good fights that could go anyway. So be honest with yourselves and please tell who could actually beat brewster and why?


....The guy "finally" showed me something I will say that. If he displays that kind of offense from now on then he may make the heavies much more interesting. Another American heavyweight champ that brings some excitement. IMO he is definitely more likeable than Toney, Byrd, Tyson, etc. etc. I am starting to agree with Larry Merchant that I would like to see a Brewster/Vitali matchup. Good job on this call great one and your 5 mil is on the way in just a second.

PBDS
05-22-2005, 09:06 AM
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TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 09:11 AM
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Thanks, Good post also, i like that. Most people that went for golota, are still saying Brewster sucks, and that golota is a bum all of a sudden. Some even posted that brewster got lucky.

Italian250
05-22-2005, 09:13 AM
Tyson by children- eating...

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 09:26 AM
i just noticed the BoxRec moved brewster from 23 to 12. Which is still pretty sad. The other 3 champs are ramked 1,2,and 3. Two of those 3 couldn't even get by golota. Wlad who Brewster Ko'd is ranked #5. Lance Whitiker is rank#6 how does this happen, Because he ko'd 22 and 16 otis tisdale. Brewster has ko'd Wlad and golota and doesn't even make top 10. That is pretty bad.

leff
05-22-2005, 10:32 AM
boxrec rankings are based on the total oposition the fighter has had.not how good they are right now. hell ruiz is rated over VK

Brewster done a good jobb with wlad and golota but who else has he fought????

TysonKO50-5-0
05-22-2005, 10:43 AM
Tyson beat his ass pretty good, but he did not KO him. However, it was not Tyson's fault Golota quit because if Golota continued to fight, he would have been KO'd sooner or later.

As for Brewster, he totally dominated yesterday. He looked like a bull charging at the matador. Golota could never handle pressure well and Brewster executed this plan perfectly. To be honest, I believe Golota was not ready for Brewster to come out so aggressively, but instead stand there like a big clump on the outside like he usually does.

In today's division, I'd take Chris Byrd over Lamon Brewster. Byrd can handle pressure, can take a punch, is quick, and has good defense. He has the ability to outbox Lamon, make him move alot, and could even cause Brewster to tire in the later rounds.

I think Brewster could beat Vitali, Ruiz, and Toney. Tua, Tyson, and Peter would be tossups due to there power.

The Troll
05-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Tyson beat his ass pretty good, but he did not KO him. However, it was not Tyson's fault Golota quit because if Golota continued to fight, he would have been KO'd sooner or later.

As for Brewster, he totally dominated yesterday. He looked like a bull charging at the matador. Golota could never handle pressure well and Brewster executed this plan perfectly. To be honest, I believe Golota was not ready for Brewster to come out so aggressively, but instead stand there like a big clump on the outside like he usually does.

In today's division, I'd take Chris Byrd over Lamon Brewster. Byrd can handle pressure, can take a punch, is quick, and has good defense. He has the ability to outbox Lamon, make him move alot, and could even cause Brewster to tire in the later rounds.

I think Brewster could beat Vitali, Ruiz, and Toney. Tua, Tyson, and Peter would be tossups due to there power.


Toney would make Brewster look Ridiculous, most likely so would Vitali. Vitali would make It would look exactly like the Danny Williams fight. Danny Williams at times has great offence too. He knocked Kali Meehan out in 52 seconds.

The Troll
05-22-2005, 10:47 AM
Brewster has a way better chance against Ruiz or Byrd than Toney or Vitali Klitschko.

TysonKO50-5-0
05-22-2005, 10:48 AM
Danny Williams looked like a complete clob against Vitali. He looked like he was moving in slow motion and showed half assed aggression. Vitali does not handle pressure well and if you keep the pressure on him, he would be overwhelmed. Aggression is the key to handle Vitali and Brewster knows this. Brewster's power is very underrated and his left hook is devistating. If he pressures Vitali like he did Andrew yesterday, he'd most likely beat him.

I'm not completely counting out a Vitali win though. Vitali could win, but I'd take Brewster.

The Troll
05-22-2005, 10:49 AM
Danny Williams looked like a complete clob against Vitali. He looked like he was moving in slow motion and showed half assed aggression. Vitali does not handle pressure well and if you keep the pressure on him, he would be overwhelmed. Aggression is the key to handle Vitali and Brewster knows this. Brewster's power is very underrated and his left hook is devistating. If he pressures Vitali like he did Andrew yesterday, he'd most likely beat him.

I'm not completely counting out a Vitali win though. Vitali could win, but I'd take Brewster.


Williams was trying to work his way in to land his left hook. He was for the most part completely unsuccessfull in that attempt and against Brewster it would exactly the same thing. Brewster getting pummeled trying to in and land the left Hook. Brewster would never get inside on Vitali just like Williams. Actually Williams and Brewster and similar fighters in alot of ways.

TysonKO50-5-0
05-22-2005, 10:54 AM
Brewster is underrated. IMO he's much better than Williams. Williams get's alot of credit for beating Tyson, but little do people realize he was losing to Tyson rather easily before Tyson suffered that injury. And up to the knockout, Tyson was still winning the fight and keeping it competetive.

Danny Williams does not hit as hard as Brewster and is not as aggressive either. Brewster also has a better chin. Brewster would land on Vitali and he would not give up until he does.

Even if Vitali starts pounding him early, Brewster will NOT go down. Wlad hit's harder than Vitali and Brewster still lived to tell the tale. Vitali would most likely tire late and Brewster will jump on him like flies on *****.

This is a VERY bad fight for Vitali.

The Troll
05-22-2005, 10:56 AM
Brewster is underrated. IMO he's much better than Williams. Williams get's alot of credit for beating Tyson, but little do people realize he was losing to Tyson rather easily before Tyson suffered that injury. And up to the knockout, Tyson was still winning the fight and keeping it competetive.

Danny Williams does not hit as hard as Brewster and is not as aggressive either. Brewster also has a better chin. Brewster would land on Vitali and he would not give up until he does.

Even if Vitali starts pounding him early, Brewster will NOT go down. Wlad hit's harder than Vitali and Brewster still lived to tell the tale. Vitali would most likely tire late and Brewster will jump on him like flies on *****.

This is a VERY bad fight for Vitali.

Williams hits hard enough to knock Kali Meehan out in 52 seconds. Meehan went the distance with Brewster. So he must have a pretty good chin. And Brewster and Williams both have good chins, both are kinda short, and both have good power, Brewster has a little bit better power. And both do most damage with their left hook, and both are slow on their feet.

ejk22
05-22-2005, 11:12 AM
I am really disappointed but I have come to the realization that Golota just does not have what it takes mentally and he really should retire. Brewster had the best gameplan, just like Tyson and Lewis did, you have to rush him from the opening bell and start swinging for the fences. Golota goes into a shell when his opponent starts flailing away like that. When his opponent starts off slow is when Golota is successful. Brewster is a nice guy and I wish him luck. I think he'll do well against Ruiz but he may have a diffcult time with Byrd's defence and Vitali's style. He'll more than likely next face the winner of Whitaker vs Krasniqi. That is unless King forces the issue differently.

ejk22
05-22-2005, 11:14 AM
Williams hits hard enough to knock Kali Meehan out in 52 seconds. Meehan went the distance with Brewster. So he must have a pretty good chin. And Brewster and Williams both have good chins, both are kinda short, and both have good power, Brewster has a little bit better power. And both do most damage with their left hook, and both are slow on their feet.
I really believe Brewster now about how he did not want to fight Meehan because he kept on picturing Meehan's family in his mind. Brewster is the type of guy who will not do well against an opponent he is friends with or has a history with. He needs to fight boxers he does not know in order for him to do well.

guru
05-22-2005, 11:43 AM
lets not get carried away about brewster, the guys still sucks.... golota has NEVER beaten a good opponent and ALWAYS folds when hit hard... brewster does have a decent chin, defence and good power, but lets remember this guy that schooled by shufford and etienne and was getting killed by wlad and meehan...

guru
05-22-2005, 11:48 AM
Brewster is underrated. IMO he's much better than Williams. Williams get's alot of credit for beating Tyson, but little do people realize he was losing to Tyson rather easily before Tyson suffered that injury. And up to the knockout, Tyson was still winning the fight and keeping it competetive.

Danny Williams does not hit as hard as Brewster and is not as aggressive either. Brewster also has a better chin. Brewster would land on Vitali and he would not give up until he does.

Even if Vitali starts pounding him early, Brewster will NOT go down. Wlad hit's harder than Vitali and Brewster still lived to tell the tale. Vitali would most likely tire late and Brewster will jump on him like flies on *****.

This is a VERY bad fight for Vitali.

i disagree, VK is a bad match up for brewster... brewster will get pounded on for 10 rounds and then stopped late... vk has a good chin too and he's never been down unlike brewster.. brewster can only beat guys that can be taken out easily and VK is not one of them

Tha Greatest
05-22-2005, 11:52 AM
Great1, brewster is the real deal...

He was the underdog, everyone said Golota was way to focused on this fight, and now he "sucks"?

What the hell is up with that crap...

When I went to bet on Brewster

If Brewster won (which I bet 40 and won 125) you would get 3.15 of what you bet, if golota won, and you bet on him you would get 1.4 time what you bet...

Brewster is the real deal

I see him beating everyone...except would like to see him with Brock, Toney, and V-Klit...

but I think he can beat V-Klit the way he fought last night and Brock is little to and throws combinations which wouuld be a good fight..

He would KO Ruiz in the same fashion Tua did...

guru
05-22-2005, 12:17 PM
Great1, brewster is the real deal...

He was the underdog, everyone said Golota was way to focused on this fight, and now he "sucks"?

What the hell is up with that crap...

When I went to bet on Brewster

If Brewster won (which I bet 40 and won 125) you would get 3.15 of what you bet, if golota won, and you bet on him you would get 1.4 time what you bet...

Brewster is the real deal

I see him beating everyone...except would like to see him with Brock, Toney, and V-Klit...

but I think he can beat V-Klit the way he fought last night and Brock is little to and throws combinations which wouuld be a good fight..

He would KO Ruiz in the same fashion Tua did...



LOL, see what i'm talking about, this stuff kills me... brewster beats a guy who's never won a big fight and now he's the savior of the division.. this is too funny....

Tha Greatest
05-22-2005, 12:26 PM
LOL, see what i'm talking about, this stuff kills me... brewster beats a guy who's never won a big fight and now he's the savior of the division.. this is too funny....
Im not sayin he is a legend

but Golota beat Byrd and Ruiz......

isnt that 2 legit champs?

guru
05-22-2005, 12:32 PM
he didnt beat them.....

The Pretender
05-22-2005, 12:41 PM
Im not sayin he is a legend

but Golota beat Byrd and Ruiz......

isnt that 2 legit champs?

Gee how amazing, out of those 3 fighters only Ruiz and Byrd the champs!

Brz_Pugilist
05-22-2005, 12:43 PM
My theory is probably that Golota is bipolar :rolleyes:

AintGottaClue
05-22-2005, 12:45 PM
so what is wlad hits harder then vitali, vitali is a smarter better fighter, he TKO'd ross purity in 11 when wlad lost in 11 and beat sanders in 8 when wlad lost to him in 2, vitali is a diff animal then wlad is, btw whast vitali's record against guys who beat his brother its 2-0 soon to be 3-0 when brewster gets his booty handed to him

RwK
05-22-2005, 01:19 PM
lets not get carried away about brewster, the guys still sucks.... golota has NEVER beaten a good opponent and ALWAYS folds when hit hard... brewster does have a decent chin, defence and good power, but lets remember this guy that schooled by shufford and etienne and was getting killed by wlad and meehan...

Funny. This coming from a guy who has Glen Johnson as his #5 P4P list.....a guy who has lost 9 fights as a professional. LOL!
You are going to feel akward when Tarver knocks him out smooth man.....Im serious.

TysonKO50-5-0
05-22-2005, 01:32 PM
I still wouldn't pick Vitali in a matchup against Brewster.

Here is why Brewster would win:

1) Brewster can be very aggressive at any point in the fight. Aggression is the key to beating a Klitschko. Neither one of them can handle pressure well and if you keep the pressure on, you most likely beat them. If Sanders trained better and kept on pressuring Vitali, we'd most likely have another champion. The fact that Brewster can explode at any time is very bad news for Vitali.

2) If Brewster's aggression fails early and Vitali starts kicking his butt, Brewster won't fall. Brewster's chin is out of this world and since Vitali don't hit half as hard as his brother, I don't see this happening. If Vitali starts controlling the fight early on and keeps on pounding Brewster, he will tire late. This is when Brewster can explode and knock the tired Klitschko out late.

This is why I see Brewster winning. He can be aggressive at any time in the fight. He can shock Vitali early and take him out or he could wait until the later rounds when Vitali get's tired and take him out.

I just don't see Vitali winning.

AintGottaClue
05-22-2005, 01:41 PM
I still wouldn't pick Vitali in a matchup against Brewster.

Here is why Brewster would win:

1) Brewster can be very aggressive at any point in the fight. Aggression is the key to beating a Klitschko. Neither one of them can handle pressure well and if you keep the pressure on, you most likely beat them. If Sanders trained better and kept on pressuring Vitali, we'd most likely have another champion. The fact that Brewster can explode at any time is very bad news for Vitali.

2) If Brewster's aggression fails early and Vitali starts kicking his butt, Brewster won't fall. Brewster's chin is out of this world and since Vitali don't hit half as hard as his brother, I don't see this happening. If Vitali starts controlling the fight early on and keeps on pounding Brewster, he will tire late. This is when Brewster can explode and knock the tired Klitschko out late.

This is why I see Brewster winning. He can be aggressive at any time in the fight. He can shock Vitali early and take him out or he could wait until the later rounds when Vitali get's tired and take him out.

I just don't see Vitali winning.


both reasons u listed are false and not true, people have tried to be aggresive with vitlai, but vitali counters it so they lose charge klitschko all u want he will beat u, second vitali hits plenty hard saying he doesnt hit half as hard as his bro is dumb, who has all his wins by KO cept 1 vitali thats who, remember brewster was pretty much out when wlad decked him they could stopped the fight,

Brewster vs vitali = another danny williams

TysonKO50-5-0
05-22-2005, 01:47 PM
Sturm-

What the hell are you talking about? Fat Sanders was aggressive with Klitschko early on and Klitschko seemed off balance and couldn't handle the pressure well. He was getting tagged by Sanders and if Fat Sanders trained a little better it probably would've been different. Vitali just can not handle pressure well. If you think Danny Williams was aggressive and pressuring Klitschko, I don't know what fight you were watching. Williams looked like a slow, plodding idiot. Williams was never good anyways.

Secondly, Wlad hit's alot harder than Vitali. I don't care about Vitali's KO %. Vitali couldn't even drop Corrie Sanders who was KO'd in 2 by Nate Tubbs. Who the hell has Vitali KO'd that's worth a damn? Vitali has yet to beat a notable opponent and has lost to the only two notable names on his resume, Lewis and Byrd.

Thirdly, Brewster was decked from Wladimir. Like I said, Wlad hit's much harder than Vitali and he still had to hit Brewster with a *****load of punches. Brewster dropped, but he got back up because he has desire. Klitschko tired, just like Vitali eventually would, and got KO'd.

Brewster KO's Vitali.

RwK
05-22-2005, 02:13 PM
Sturm-

What the hell are you talking about? Fat Sanders was aggressive with Klitschko early on and Klitschko seemed off balance and couldn't handle the pressure well. He was getting tagged by Sanders and if Fat Sanders trained a little better it probably would've been different. Vitali just can not handle pressure well. If you think Danny Williams was aggressive and pressuring Klitschko, I don't know what fight you were watching. Williams looked like a slow, plodding idiot. Williams was never good anyways.

Secondly, Wlad hit's alot harder than Vitali. I don't care about Vitali's KO %. Vitali couldn't even drop Corrie Sanders who was KO'd in 2 by Nate Tubbs. Who the hell has Vitali KO'd that's worth a damn? Vitali has yet to beat a notable opponent and has lost to the only two notable names on his resume, Lewis and Byrd.

Thirdly, Brewster was decked from Wladimir. Like I said, Wlad hit's much harder than Vitali and he still had to hit Brewster with a *****load of punches. Brewster dropped, but he got back up because he has desire. Klitschko tired, just like Vitali eventually would, and got KO'd.

Brewster KO's Vitali.

This is the best post I have read on this thread by far. There is no comparison....because its obvious. Wlad has faster, heavier hands. Finally somone comes here....and sets things straight.

AintGottaClue
05-22-2005, 02:13 PM
Sturm-

What the hell are you talking about? Fat Sanders was aggressive with Klitschko early on and Klitschko seemed off balance and couldn't handle the pressure well. He was getting tagged by Sanders and if Fat Sanders trained a little better it probably would've been different. Vitali just can not handle pressure well. If you think Danny Williams was aggressive and pressuring Klitschko, I don't know what fight you were watching. Williams looked like a slow, plodding idiot. Williams was never good anyways.

Secondly, Wlad hit's alot harder than Vitali. I don't care about Vitali's KO %. Vitali couldn't even drop Corrie Sanders who was KO'd in 2 by Nate Tubbs. Who the hell has Vitali KO'd that's worth a damn? Vitali has yet to beat a notable opponent and has lost to the only two notable names on his resume, Lewis and Byrd.

Thirdly, Brewster was decked from Wladimir. Like I said, Wlad hit's much harder than Vitali and he still had to hit Brewster with a *****load of punches. Brewster dropped, but he got back up because he has desire. Klitschko tired, just like Vitali eventually would, and got KO'd.

Brewster KO's Vitali.


your a moron sander has always been a little fat, he pressured vitali and hit him with a stight left of course vitali would get wobbled but he came back lmao, brewster isnt a god your an idiot stop posting you already making yourself look bad

guru
05-22-2005, 02:49 PM
Funny. This coming from a guy who has Glen Johnson as his #5 P4P list.....a guy who has lost 9 fights as a professional. LOL!
You are going to feel akward when Tarver knocks him out smooth man.....Im serious.


i have johnson rated there, cause he was fighter of the year last year, beating both rj and tarver... nothing wrong with that... tarver should beat GJ, but he didnt, he lost, so there's no way i'm gonna rank AT ahead of him...

guru
05-22-2005, 02:52 PM
brewster has a good chin, but not a great one... he's been down and hurt before... he does keep his hands high and covers up well, so its not easy to hit him cleanly...

RwK
05-22-2005, 03:06 PM
i have johnson rated there, cause he was fighter of the year last year, beating both rj and tarver... nothing wrong with that... tarver should beat GJ, but he didnt, he lost, so there's no way i'm gonna rank AT ahead of him...

Ok I agree with that. And I am not trying to insult you...its just that: If you say Brewster is complete garbage....that does not justify Johnson's ranking on your P4P list.

Johnson was awarded a gift decision against Tarver...and he even was holding his breath after the fight.

His Most notable win was against a weight drained RJJ who was washed up basically. If you say Brewster is garbage for losing to Shufford and Etienne...that is discrediting the fact that styles make fights...and Brewster is wrong for everyone in the division because of his tools.

Johnson however is overrated IMO, and should not be considered a top 15 P4P fighter. I think Clinton Woods would beat him in a rubbermatch believe it or not.

Question:

If Brewster fights Rahman...and Vitali...and knocks them both out...where would you rank him? probably not in the top 20 P4P because of his losses.

Yet Johnson is a journeyman who has lost 9 fights and will lose 10 when he gets exposed in the rematch.

guru
05-22-2005, 03:11 PM
Ok I agree with that. And I am not trying to insult you...its just that: If you say Brewster is complete garbage....that does not justify Johnson's ranking on your P4P list.

Johnson was awarded a gift decision against Tarver...and he even was holding his breath after the fight.

His Most notable win was against a weight drained RJJ who was washed up basically. If you say Brewster is garbage for losing to Shufford and Etienne...that is discrediting the fact that styles make fights...and Brewster is wrong for everyone in the division because of his tools.

Johnson however is overrated IMO, and should not be considered a top 15 P4P fighter. I think Clinton Woods would beat him in a rubbermatch believe it or not.

Question:

If Brewster fights Rahman...and Vitali...and knocks them both out...where would you rank him? probably not in the top 20 P4P because of his losses.

Yet Johnson is a journeyman who has lost 9 fights and will lose 10 when he gets exposed in the rematch.


brewster is wrong for guys that aren't durable, i'll give you that... but what is he going to do when faces someone that doesnt fold?? he'll be just like tua..... tua KO'd everyone, but when he couldn't KO them he couldn't win... LB is in the same boat, if he doesnt KO them he isnt going to win... and you cant KO everyone...

Bozo_no no
05-22-2005, 03:19 PM
Tyson didn't KO him, Glotota walked away after 2. That's hardly a KO, even though they count it as a TKO, it's still not a real KO.

Also, Golota is the biggest ***** in boxing. He starts to get hurt a bit, and he quits. Tyson, Grant, etc.


Golota suffered a concussion, a herniated disc in his neck and a fractured cheek bone in the fight with Tyson.

COME ON.




http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2000/1024/sp16-3.html

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 06:00 PM
Sturm-

What the hell are you talking about? Fat Sanders was aggressive with Klitschko early on and Klitschko seemed off balance and couldn't handle the pressure well. He was getting tagged by Sanders and if Fat Sanders trained a little better it probably would've been different. Vitali just can not handle pressure well. If you think Danny Williams was aggressive and pressuring Klitschko, I don't know what fight you were watching. Williams looked like a slow, plodding idiot. Williams was never good anyways.

Secondly, Wlad hit's alot harder than Vitali. I don't care about Vitali's KO %. Vitali couldn't even drop Corrie Sanders who was KO'd in 2 by Nate Tubbs. Who the hell has Vitali KO'd that's worth a damn? Vitali has yet to beat a notable opponent and has lost to the only two notable names on his resume, Lewis and Byrd.

Thirdly, Brewster was decked from Wladimir. Like I said, Wlad hit's much harder than Vitali and he still had to hit Brewster with a *****load of punches. Brewster dropped, but he got back up because he has desire. Klitschko tired, just like Vitali eventually would, and got KO'd.

Brewster KO's Vitali.

grest post, o totally agree with everything you said

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 06:03 PM
brewster has a good chin, but not a great one... he's been down and hurt before... he does keep his hands high and covers up well, so its not easy to hit him cleanly...

Damn, if you don't consider brewster to have a great chin, then you will never be pleased. I doubt if anyone could take as many clean shot from Wlad as he did.

Tha Greatest
05-22-2005, 06:03 PM
he didnt beat them.....
He got robbed..

Who won the decision...Byrd and Ruiz

Who got beat up....Byrd and Ruiz

Tha Greatest
05-22-2005, 06:04 PM
Damn, if you don't consider brewster to have a great chin, then you will never be pleased. I doubt if anyone could take as many clean shot from Wlad as he did.
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TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 06:15 PM
That is the coolest avatar I've ever seen
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guru
05-22-2005, 06:20 PM
Damn, if you don't consider brewster to have a great chin, then you will never be pleased. I doubt if anyone could take as many clean shot from Wlad as he did.

he has a GOOD chin, but he did get dropped and was hurt by etienne and meehan so i dont think he a GREAT chin... against wlad i thought he did good job of covering up and avoiding getting hit by alot of clean punches... when he did get hit cleanly he went down...

guru
05-22-2005, 06:23 PM
He got robbed..

Who won the decision...Byrd and Ruiz

Who got beat up....Byrd and Ruiz


by that logic then byrd never had the belt cause he would have lost it to fres.... i dont think het got robbed, it was two close fights and you have to BEAT the champ, which he didnt convincingly do... event those that thought golota won, didnt have him winning by alot... not every fight that is close but you dont agree with is a robbery..

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 06:27 PM
he has a GOOD chin, but he did get dropped and was hurt by etienne and meehan so i dont think he a GREAT chin... against wlad i thought he did good job of covering up and avoiding getting hit by alot of clean punches... when he did get hit cleanly he went down...

don't forget Etienne is one of the hardest hitters in the HW div, his problem has always been his chin, so for him to hurt brewtser or anyone else is understandable. And as for Meehan, when he was landing all of those shots in the 6th round, Brewster turned it around with 1 shot with 20 sec left in the round, and could have KO'd meehan that round if not been for the bell, so he has shown to have an out standing chin, Remember fighters with the best chins have been down in the HW div over time, Rocky,ali,frazier,foreman,holyfield, and even LL. Peple are quick to say that LL had a weak chin, but he was only down 2 times in his whole career

guru
05-22-2005, 06:35 PM
don't forget Etienne is one of the hardest hitters in the HW div, his problem has always been his chin, so for him to hurt brewtser or anyone else is understandable. And as for Meehan, when he was landing all of those shots in the 6th round, Brewster turned it around with 1 shot with 20 sec left in the round, and could have KO'd meehan that round if not been for the bell, so he has shown to have an out standing chin, Remember fighters with the best chins have been down in the HW div over time, Rocky,ali,frazier,foreman,holyfield, and even LL. Peple are quick to say that LL had a weak chin, but he was only down 2 times in his whole career

agree with you mostly i do... good chin he has, great chin he does not....

seriously, i think he does of good job of covering up, so it appears that he takin a beating when he's really not.. he's a tough guy no doubt, but i think he can be KO'd and i just cant rate his chin as high as tua, ike or vk, til i see him take some more shots and not be hurt...

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 06:38 PM
agree with you mostly i do... good chin he has, great chin he does not....

seriously, i think he does of good job of covering up, so it appears that he takin a beating when he's really not.. he's a tough guy no doubt, but i think he can be KO'd and i just cant rate his chin as high as tua, ike or vk, til i see him take some more shots and not be hurt...

thats understandable. You maybe right, he does cover up pretty good. Maybe he is not getting hit as clean as it appears. Lets try this. Brewster has a Great Heart, and a Good Chin.

Moon
05-22-2005, 06:40 PM
Brewster simply decided to test Golota early. His team knew damned well the big Pole was gonna' need time to get his legs under himself and et his confidence up, so Brewster did the smartest thing possible .... rush him with bombs, in combos.

guru
05-22-2005, 06:42 PM
the heart he has cause he does take some ass whippins and keep going... it'll be interesting to see who king lets him fight next... ruiz? TOS?

TheGreat1
05-22-2005, 06:46 PM
the heart he has cause he does take some ass whippins and keep going... it'll be interesting to see who king lets him fight next... ruiz? TOS?
I think king will try to milk him a little, maybe throw him in there With TOS, hoping he can do to him what Mesi did, a quick KO. to try and raise Brewster's stock. I don't think he'll give brewster a Ruiz, simply because ruiz is tough, and would make for a boring fight.

TysonKO50-5-0
05-23-2005, 09:49 AM
your a moron sander has always been a little fat, he pressured vitali and hit him with a stight left of course vitali would get wobbled but he came back lmao, brewster isnt a god your an idiot stop posting you already making yourself look bad
First off you little *****, learn how to post in english.

Secondly, Sanders was in pathetic shape for that Vitali fight. He looked great in the first round pressuring Klitschko and tagging him with a few shots. Now if he could've kept that up for 2 more rounds, he probably would've won, but since he didn't, he paid the price.

I never said Brewster is a god, but it seems as though you think Vitali Klitschko is. So basically your "GOD":

1) Quits when he is clearly ahead in a fight because his shoulder hurts.

2) Never beat a notable opponent.

3) Postponed his upcoming fight with Rahman multiple times because he got a boo-boo.

4) Has less boxing skills than Bob Barker.

Hit the bricks, *******. I don't got time for you English-lacking, Klitschko nuthugging ass. Keep worshiping that bum, Vitali, and sooner or later you will come to the realization that he was always a terrible champion with limited skills.

AintGottaClue
05-23-2005, 10:05 AM
not to mention rahman pulle doutta the fight first cause his wallet was empty then stopped being a *****

Torino
05-23-2005, 10:07 AM
Brewster done well, credit to him, but we all know that he just caught a cold golota......he was a bit lucky whether you like it or not?

If he lets this success go to his head, he will get KO'd himself.

Let's not get too enthusiastic over this win.
I agree completely. Brewster looked good, but I think that fight said more about Golota being cold than Brewster being the next Tyson. The Meehan fight is still too fresh in my memory for that. Brewster proved to be a classy guy and now I want to see his next fight regardless of his opponent. I think he did well, and he's earned some of my respect, but I need to see a few more fights before I jump on the "Brewster's the best" bandwagon.

TheGreat1
07-20-2006, 02:06 PM
I'm just wondering if People still brewster as lucky, or a tough as nails, Good fighter?

AllEyesOpen
07-20-2006, 02:24 PM
I'm sure Brewster is still a major factor in the HW division, once he gets his eye fixed, he put up a great fight for a guy who lost an eye in the 2 or 3 round (i think). As for what he did to Golota, it was a smart move, You want to get Golota out ASAP, cause Golota has proven that even if he winning that he'll just snap & use your nut sack as a speed bag.

beez721
07-20-2006, 02:32 PM
All three of these fighters have KO'd Golota in dramatic fashion. Golota has proven throughout his career to be very tough and skilled. It is possible the he out fought champions, Bowe twice, Bryd, and Ruiz. His losses to Tyson and LL where pretty much overlooked because hell it tyson and LL. So what does this say for Brewster? Is he really just that damn good to do what 3 prior champions couldn't? In his last 8 fights he won 7 by KO, and the other fight was his best friend who he admitted let his personal feeling get in the way of business. Yesterday Boxrec had brewster ranked 22. They had a world champion ranked #22 that is crazy. Out the the 21 fighters ranked over him, the only one i can really see beating brewster is Toney. VK and would be very good fights that could go anyway. So be honest with yourselves and please tell who could actually beat brewster and why?
golota was the opposite of tough. he was a mental weakling which is why he never became a champion

beez721
07-20-2006, 02:36 PM
I just watched the fight again, Did anyone notice that Brewter is a righty, yet he Kd Golota 3 times with his left, how powerful is this guy?
he has good power but golota didnt exactly prepare himself either. he was 10+ lbs heavier than his previous fights and hadnt a bead of sweat on his body

Kid Achilles
07-20-2006, 02:38 PM
Brewster has to sharpen his skills (especially his defense) up, continue to work on his cardio, and be sure to pace himself better. I don't like the roll of fat I saw around his waist a week or so before he fought Sergei. He can't let his midsection balloon up between fights. He needs to stick to a sensible diet, year round, like Hopkins, and then he can concentrate on his skills, and not his weight, in training camp.

In terms of natural ability, Brewster is up there with the best at the moment. He is incredibly powerful, has a chin of granite, and balls of steel. He has only himself to blame if he doesn't pull himself up by his bootstraps and bounce back from this loss.

IMO he is the most gifted (I consider courage and fortitude gifts as few possess them as Brewster does) American heavyweight and the most dependable "line of defense" we have. He is better than Rahman, even if he isn't as skilled.

He's a true gentleman and a great ambassador for the sport. I wish him luck, and I'll be backing him in most of his upcoming fights.

ejk22
07-20-2006, 05:27 PM
Golota had all the talent in the world. But to be a great fighter and a great champion you need to have your head together. Mentally there is nothing up there. I still believe that your mentality in the ring needs to be the same level as your talent. Tyson was a bull for many years and he intimidated his opponents, but he proved on quite a few occassions that if you bullied him back he would collapse under pressure which he did twice against Holyfield, and against Douglas, Lewis, Williams and Mcbride. Golota did not like to get hit or rushed and that was a direct result of his mentality being weak.