He did a great job, but let's be realistic.

He lost to Cliff Etienne and Charrles Shufford and Golota has lost every major fight he's ever been involved in.

Brewster and Wlad should rematch next.

If Wlad expects to be taken seriously again, he should win that fight.

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.

IMO this is the only fight out there for both of them now.

He did a great job, but let's be realistic.

He lost to Cliff Etienne and Charrles Shufford and Golota has lost every major fight he's ever been involved in.

Brewster and Wlad should rematch next.

If Wlad expects to be taken seriously again, he should win that fight.

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.

IMO this is the only fight out there for both of them now.
i can c where u coming from... but in most eyes wlad hasn't got a test yet.... n he doesn't wana rush it, otherwise he has to start yet another rebuilding.
i say against peter, ruiz, or toney. most likely peter tho since hes the only one open

or y not jirov? (im a fan of jirov)

Wlad got far better resume than brewster. I agree, needs a rematch.

brewster has earned a payday, there is no need for him to face wlad. before the fight people were saying golota was gonna win easy or golota is gonna win big, so why discredit golota after brewster defeats him? brewster imo deserves a shot at unifying some belts against any other champions.

He did a great job, but let's be realistic.

He lost to Cliff Etienne and Charrles Shufford and Golota has lost every major fight he's ever been involved in.

Brewster and Wlad should rematch next.

If Wlad expects to be taken seriously again, he should win that fight.

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.

IMO this is the only fight out there for both of them now.And what would that accomplish for Brewster?
He already beat Wlad..

He already got some of the spotlight and now he needs to run with it and run forward, not back..

And what would that accomplish for Brewster?
He already beat Wlad..

He already got some of the spot and now he needs to run with it and run forward, not back..


Well you're right about Wlad being a step backwards...

And what would that accomplish for Brewster?
He already beat Wlad..

He already got some of the spotlight and now he needs to run with it and run forward, not back..

exactly, brewster doesnt need wlad

I think Brewster should make an example out of John Ruiz first...and really make him go bye bye. Im talking about sending his ass through the ropes like he did against Golota.
You think Ruiz can weather that attack anyone? I got 20 million points on that.

"He already got some of the spot and now he needs to run with it and run forward, not back..."


What gets me is you talking about Wlad being a "step backwards" for the WBO champion, yet thinking WLad should get a crack at Byrd.

If there's any title Wlad should get a shot at, it would be the WBO, not the IBF.

Personally, I would be disgusted to see Brewster fight Vitali, because it would be the FOURTH time he's avenged Wlad's loss for him.

Well you're right about Wlad being a step backwards...
I really want him (Brewster) to retire Ruiz!
In any case... Kind should start unifying his champs

Rahman and Barrett are already fighting for Vitaly's WBC..
IBF - Byrd is already Fighting Lahovich / unless Wlad wins the case...
That leaves WBA Vs. WBO which someone mentioned will never happen as WBA will not allow their champ to fight for WBO belt. Something I'm still confused about

I think Brewster should make an example out of John Ruiz first...and really make him go bye bye. Im talking about sending his ass through the ropes like he did against Golota.
You think Ruiz can weather that attack anyone? I got 20 million points on that.

I bet you all my points to your 20 mil on that fight. Ruiz by decision.

I think Brewster should make an example out of John Ruiz first...and really make him go bye bye. Im talking about sending his ass through the ropes like he did against Golota.
You think Ruiz can weather that attack anyone? I got 20 million points on that.
LOL..

I'm glad we agree again... just as I was writing my post (below)...

Brewster has already said that he will not fight Wlad again unless Wlad is his mandatory. Brewster's next opponent fights next week.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't honestly say I'd want to see John Ruiz fight anyone.

His "title" is beyond tainted now that he's lost it to two middleweights.

Brewster has already said that he will not fight Wlad again unless Wlad is his mandatory. Brewster's next opponent fights next week.

Because like Byrd, Brewster is also a chicken****.

Maybe it's just me, but I can't honestly say I'd want to see John Ruiz fight anyone.

His "title" is beyond tainted now that he's lost it to two middleweights.

Lost what? He the WBA champ. Check boxrec.

"He already got some of the spotlight and now he needs to run with it and run forward, not back..."

What gets me is you talking about Wlad being a "step backwards" for the WBO champion, yet thinking Wlad should get a crack at Byrd.

If there's any title Wlad should get a shot at, it would be the WBO, not the IBF.

Personally, I would be disgusted to see Brewster fight Vitali, because it would be the FOURTH time he's avenged Wlad's loss for him.You're mixing apples and oranges.

Brewster is a champ. Brewster beat Wlad to get the belt. Why would he fight him again unless it's mandatory?

On the other hand.. Wlad beat Byrd (badly) Wlad becomes his mandatory now that Rahman and Barrett are out of the picture. Yes, Wlad should fight Byrd.

Actually -> Byrd should fight Wlad.

Because like Byrd, Brewster is also a chicken****.
your bias is affecting your judement. it hasnt even been 2 hours since the end of brewsters fight and you are already hating on him cause he aint ruiz.

I never thought I'd ever see a great white champ scaring (almost) everyone in the division again.

I never thought I'd ever see a great white champ scaring (almost) everyone in the division again.
what are you talkin about? who is scared of who?

your bias is affecting your judement. it hasnt even been 2 hours since the end of brewsters fight and you are already hating on him cause he aint ruiz.

Uh no. Go read Mckays threads. I picked Brewster to win but have never liked him ever since he laced a pair of gloves. What should change my mind, his victory over a basketcase chronic loser like golota?

what are you talkin about? who is scared of who?

This whole perception of vitali ruling the division as lewis made his exit. What is it about east bloc caucasions that make them good fighters? They're the only white boxers to get anywhere in the upper divisions anymore.

You're mixing apples and oranges.

Brewster is a champ. Brewster beat Wlad to get the belt. Why would he fight him again unless it's mandatory?

On the other hand.. Wlad beat Byrd (badly) Wlad becomes his mandatory now that Rahman and Barrett are out of the picture. Yes, Wlad should fight Byrd.

Actually -> Byrd should fight Wlad.


WOW are you delusional.

Byrd should fight a guy that has NO BUSINESS being ranked in the top 5 (a guy who according to you has no business fighting for the WBO title)?

Byrd has a recognized title.

If Wlad doesn't deserve to fight for the WBO title, how is it that he deserves to fight for a major title (AGAIN having been KO'd in 2 of his last 6 fights)?


Brewster's title is a joke.

Byrd is tied up with a scheduled fight, as is Vitali (whenever he gets healthy) and Rahman and Barrett.

I don't want to see anyone fight Ruiz, so the only fight I'd like to see for Brewster is if he could repeate agaisnt Wlad.

Uh no. Go read Mckays threads. I picked Brewster to win but have never liked him ever since he laced a pair of gloves. What should change my mind, his victory over a basketcase chronic loser like golota?

Just curious, can you list five fighters (preferably at least one heavyweight) you do like, not including Ruiz?

Uh no. Go read Mckays threads. I picked Brewster to win but have never liked him ever since he laced a pair of gloves. What should change my mind, his victory over a basketcase chronic loser like golota?
so why you hyping ruiz for the very same thing?
you are so biased it is scary

Just curious, can you list five fighters (preferably at least one heavyweight) you do like, not including Ruiz?

Castillo, Morrales, Moseley, and cant think of another hw i like.

so why you hyping ruiz for the very same thing?
you are so biased it is scary

He's a survivor. And in case you missed it hes the champ.

Castillo, Morrales, Moseley, and cant think of another hw i like.That's what I thought

That's what I thought

Used to really like RJJ before he *****ed out rather than take a title defense, then got KTFO twice and retired.

WOW are you delusional.

Byrd should fight a guy that has NO BUSINESS being ranked in the top 5 (a guy who according to you has no business fighting for the WBO title)?

Byrd has a recognized title.

If Wlad doesn't deserve to fight for the WBO title, how is it that he deserves to fight for a major title (AGAIN having been KO'd in 2 of his last 6 fights)?

Brewster's title is a joke.

Byrd is tied up with a scheduled fight, as is Vitali (whenever he gets healthy) and Rahman and Barrett.

I don't want to see anyone fight Ruiz, so the only fight I'd like to see for Brewster is if he could repeate agaisnt Wlad."how is it that he deserves to fight for a major title (AGAIN having been KO'd in 2 of his last 6 fights)?" How? Because he is Ranked as a #3 contender for the IBF belt. Barrett is ranked #1, Rahman are Ranked #2. As they are already fighting each other, that makes Wlad (#3) the Mandatory!

Read up on some news! The only one of us who is "delusional" is you.

He's a survivor. And in case you missed it hes the champ.
Yes, nothing will ever kill ****roaches either LOL

"how is it that he deserves to fight for a major title (AGAIN having been KO'd in 2 of his last 6 fights)?" How? Because he is Ranked as a #3 contender for the IBF belt. Barrett is ranked #1, Rahman are Ranked #2. As they are already fighting each other, that makes Wlad (#3) the Mandatory!

Read up on some news! The only one of us who is "delusional" is you.

The question, is how does he deserve that ranking, when according to you, he doesn't deserve a shot at the WBO title.

Leave it to a fanatic jock sniffer to hide behind a BS ranking in one instance, and abandon it for common sense in another.

The question, is how does he deserve that ranking, when according to you, he doesn't deserve a shot at the WBO title.

Leave it to a fanatic jock sniffer to hide behind a BS ranking in one instance, and abandon it for common sense in another.HOW DOES HE DESERVE THAT RANKING?? HAHA

Beats me!!

Why don't you take a look at their official website and ask them. After all, I'm delusional, remember?!

http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/

[b]After all, I'm delusional, remember?!




Well, that's the 2nd correct assertion you've made tonight (after admitting Wlad doesn't desweve a WBO title shot) (LOL)

So there's hope for you yet.

http://forumspam.articblue.nl/post_related/flamewar/images/0229.jpg

Well, that's the 2nd correct assertion you've made tonight (after admitting Wlad doesn't desweve a WBO title shot) (LOL)

So there's hope for you yet.
And that's taken out of content. Nice try for covering your tracks..

Doesn't work for me though. At least you can do is admit when you're wrong.

BTW, it was you who said Wlad should fight Brewster for the WBO. Now you saying you were wrong by saying I'm right?

http://forumspam.articblue.nl/post_related/flamewar/images/0229.jpgvery nice support out of you! LOL
This is what everyone does.. as this is a forum.

very nice support out of you! LOL
This is what everyone does.. as this is a forum.


FYI, I was reinforcing the idea....that people take things way too seriously. Not to mention....sometimes overdefend themselves in an attempt to gain reputation that will be shortly forgotten thereafter. I am guilty of doing just that, because I obviously must be one of the retarded special olympics runners.

Living Legend....who is one of my favorite posters, claims he and I are "mildly retarded".

I could be inclined to believe such a thing.

FYI, I was reinforcing the idea....that people take things way too seriously. Not to mention....sometimes overdefend themselves in an attempt to gain reputation that will be shortly forgotten thereafter. I am guilty of doing just that, because I obviously must be one of the retarded special olympics runners.

Living Legend....who is one of my favorite posters, claims he and I are "mildly retarded".

I could be inclined to believe such a thing.Well, if it's special Olympics you're running in, that's still ok, 'cause you're running with knives ;)

BTW, I know exactly what you mean.. and I'm just doing it for the argument sake.. (had a fight with my gf, and she went for a walk)

Well, if it's special Olympics you're running in, that's still ok, 'cause you're running with knives ;)

BTW, I know exactly what you mean.. and I'm just doing it for the argument sake.. (had a fight with my gf, and she went for a walk)

Obviously she is angry at the amount of time you spent on this internet forum. My old lady is always gone, so I spend all the time I can chatting back and forth, spewing 1 liners, and having a good time on the computer. As in general, my job entails working on them.

brewster deserves to fight tyson! then tyson can reclaim his gold!!!!!! j/p well I wish actaully

Brewster is pure trash. Golota is just a wierd guy. He comes in he beats the **** out of Bowe the comes in and dies against Lewis after coming into the arena like 15min before the fight. He beats the **** out of Byrd and Ruiz who are better opponents and then he loses to the worst Heavyweight champ ever Brewster.

Brewster almost got killed by Ethiene (got raped by Calvin Brock) then he got beat up by Mehan (who was raped by Rahaman). He also got jail raped by Klitchko (until he "mysteriosly" got winded )

Because like Byrd, Brewster is also a chicken****.
Good post!!!

He did a great job, but let's be realistic.

He lost to Cliff Etienne and Charrles Shufford and Golota has lost every major fight he's ever been involved in.

Brewster and Wlad should rematch next.

If Wlad expects to be taken seriously again, he should win that fight.

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.

IMO this is the only fight out there for both of them now.

There are many doors open for Brewster, For him to fight wlad would be pointless, He already KO'd him and has nothing to win, but everything to loose. I think he should go after Peter or even Brock

Rematch! Rematch! Rematch!!!
Wlad will knock this mother****er out cold!!!

Rematch! Rematch! Rematch!!!
Wlad will knock this mother****er out cold!!!

What have you seen in these fighters, that would lead you to beleive that? Do you also beleive he would KO sanders?

Rematch! Rematch! Rematch!!!
Wlad will knock this mother****er out cold!!!

Brewster should go for the bigtime and try to line himself up with a match against Tyson. Not an unlikely scenario either. Sanctoning bodies love having Tyson fight for them he makes more money for them than anybody else. So its easy for him to get into mandatory positon.

Brewster should go for the bigtime and try to line himself up with a match against Tyson. Not an unlikely scenario either. Sanctoning bodies love having Tyson fight for them he makes more money for them than anybody else. So its easy for him to get into mandatory positon.

yeah that would be a good payday, but it's alot of risk there

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.


he will beat wlad again, but not from wild shots anymore

sorry i cant be assed to read all the posts.

anyways nobody thought golota was a dead cert to win.

anybody who knows golota accepts every fight is risky for him.

brewster is still ****e & does need wlad. he was getting hammered
before wlad mysteriously collapsed & was stopped. also he should
of lost to kali meehan according to most reports (aint seen fight)
so this fight should & likely will go ahead before the yrs end

also theres money in a wlad-brewtser rematch.
brewster having koed 2 top europeans recently.
wlad being on the comeback trail & out for revenge.
and if brewster thinks hes the best it would be a better fight for him
than ruiz or byrd as byrd would out box him and ruiz would bumhug him.

v-klit is a big risk with a big reward.

great1 - chicken**** ****..

theres no mag in your rifle!

post a picture where your sarge beats you up! :)

great1 - chicken**** ****..

theres no mag in your rifle!

post a picture where your sarge beats you up! :)
Retarded post!

BTW Great1.. Like your new avitar

He did a great job, but let's be realistic.

He lost to Cliff Etienne and Charrles Shufford and Golota has lost every major fight he's ever been involved in.

Brewster and Wlad should rematch next.

If Wlad expects to be taken seriously again, he should win that fight.

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.

IMO this is the only fight out there for both of them now.


wow this might be a first, i actually agree with the first part of you post... people are thinking brewster is up there VK, toney and byrd cause he beat a career choke artist, a guy who folds when hit hard... brewster didnt show us anything we didnt already know about him, he showed us nothing new... lets see how he does against someone skilled and durable, like donald, byrd or toney.. i gurantee he loses badly like he did to shufford

FYI, I was reinforcing the idea....that people take things way too seriously. Not to mention....sometimes overdefend themselves in an attempt to gain reputation that will be shortly forgotten thereafter. I am guilty of doing just that, because I obviously must be one of the retarded special olympics runners.

Living Legend....who is one of my favorite posters, claims he and I are "mildly retarded".

I could be inclined to believe such a thing.

No need to speculate. I can confirm that you are definately retarded.

Brewster is pure trash. Golota is just a wierd guy. He comes in he beats the **** out of Bowe the comes in and dies against Lewis after coming into the arena like 15min before the fight. He beats the **** out of Byrd and Ruiz who are better opponents and then he loses to the worst Heavyweight champ ever Brewster.

Brewster almost got killed by Ethiene (got raped by Calvin Brock) then he got beat up by Mehan (who was raped by Rahaman). He also got jail raped by Klitchko (until he "mysteriosly" got winded )

I suspect its a mental thing. Brewster one of those boxers who is not intimidated by caucasian fighters and in those situations he performs better.

aint no "only fight out there" when u a champion

First off....shut up pretender. You are a homo.

Secondly...what I find really funny, is how Bozo points out that Vitali jock sniffers....flock in droves to any thread that deals with heavyweights. They are obviously more abundant than haters....which I am starting to like. Lets be honest, most people are living in la-la land in regards to Vitali's ranking right now, and that ranking: is based solely on aesthetic approval for his fighting style and stature. Granted, he does have a decent record, and an extremely high K.O. percentage, but nothing in terms of having faced the best opposition.

The heavyweight division is convoluted right now yes. And as sick as it is to say......John Ruiz has the best credentials as a heavyweight. He has faced better opposition than anyone else, as well as having BEAT better opposition than Vitali. He holds a win over KirK Johnson....although that is not saying much considering he won by disqualification. Vitali knocked him out cold...bet keep in mind: Johnson was overweight to the max and still was the best opponent he has triumphed over.

The day will come...when this division will clean itself out: and in doing so...the two best heavyweights (Wlad and Brewster) will become the next megafight in the division. A poster pointed out that Brewster V.S. Wlad is the ONLY fight in the heavyweight division...and rightfully so.

People hating on Brewster crack me up....and so do Vitali jock sniffers: because they are the same people. Feeling really threatened by the chance their WHITE heavyweight king could be demolished by an American black man.

I find it hilarious. You know what though.....Larry Holmes said it best. "When a white guy fights a black guy.....its automatic"I agree to a certain point.

Undermining factor in most people's approval of Vitali Klitschko...is his skin color. Because if Brewster was as dominant....he would not get the same respect.

Lewis was hated by americans after he beat Vitali's ass....and they started crying afterwards. "HE WON MOST ROUNDS!!!" whatever. Lewis owned his ass...and I hate to make a picture thread describing just that.

Face the facts. Vitali is overrated and there is no two ways about that.

First off....shut up pretender. You are a homo.

Secondly...what I find really funny, is how Bozo points out that Vitali jock sniffers....flock in droves to any thread that deals with heavyweights. They are obviously more abundant than haters....which I am starting to like. Lets be honest, most people are living in la-la land in regards to Vitali's ranking right now, and that ranking: is based solely on aesthetic approval for his fighting style and stature. Granted, he does have a decent record, and an extremely high K.O. percentage, but nothing in terms of having faced the best opposition.

The heavyweight division is convoluted right now yes. And as sick as it is to say......John Ruiz has the best credentials as a heavyweight. He has faced better opposition than anyone else, as well as having BEAT better opposition than Vitali. He holds a win over KirK Johnson....although that is not saying much considering he won by disqualification. Vitali knocked him out cold...bet keep in mind: Johnson was overweight to the max and still was the best opponent he has triumphed over.

The day will come...when this division will clean itself out: and in doing so...the two best heavyweights (Wlad and Brewster) will become the next megafight in the division. A poster pointed out that Brewster V.S. Wlad is the ONLY fight in the heavyweight division...and rightfully so.

People hating on Brewster crack me up....and so do Vitali jock sniffers: because they are the same people. Feeling really threatened by the chance their WHITE heavyweight king could be demolished by an American black man.

I find it hilarious. You know what though.....Larry Holmes said it best. "When a white guy fights a black guy.....its automatic"I agree to a certain point.

Undermining factor in most people's approval of Vitali Klitschko...is his skin color. Because if Brewster was as dominant....he would not get the same respect.

Lewis was hated by americans after he beat Vitali's ass....and they started crying afterwards. "HE WON MOST ROUNDS!!!" whatever. Lewis owned his ass...and I hate to make a picture thread describing just that.

Face the facts. Vitali is overrated and there is no two ways about that.


This is a very good and very long post.

I disagree about one thing.

Some white people, such as myself, would rather see an American kick a Europeans ass then have a champion the same color.


Go Brewster! I won 77 million on this fight!

i can c where u coming from... but in most eyes wlad hasn't got a test yet.... n he doesn't wana rush it, otherwise he has to start yet another rebuilding.
i say against peter, ruiz, or toney. most likely peter tho since hes the only one open

or y not jirov? (im a fan of jirov)


i might be misunderstanding your post but are you saying that wlad isnt rushing to fight for a title right now.if so then why Earlier this week, wlad Klitschko filed a lawsuit in federal court against the IBF, asking the court to declare him the mandatory contender and then enforce a match against IBF Champ Chris Byrd.i think wlad should try and fight brewster as soon as possible.i think he could beat brewster this time around .if he has head and heart is into it.

Face the facts. Vitali is overrated and there is no two ways about that.


yeah, but he hasnt lost to shufford or struggle to beat meehan

yeah, but he hasnt lost to shufford or struggle to beat meehan

no he has not. Though:

1.) Brewster was Meehan's friend...and explained why he had a lack of killer instinct.

2.) Has never quit a fight....showing exactly what his metal is made of.

3.) Biggest win was over KJ (vitali)

4.) Brewster knocked Golota out in 1 round. Golota is better than anyone VK has ever faced by far. LOL!

Sanders was washed up.
Williams was too heavy and weighed close to 300 lbs.

Brewster would K.O. Vitali in 3 or 4 rounds.

yeah, but he hasnt lost to shufford or struggle to beat meehan


/ Sigh



I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.


Do you see a squad of people with goofy Brewster Avitars clogging up the forum with weekly threads compairing everyone and everything to Brewster?

Is there a team of Biased Brewster fans shoving him down everyone's throats acting like Brewster is something more than he's proven to be?

In a word, no.

Great1...If I ever have beef with someone I'm going to summon you so you can **** them up. Cool avatar btw.

/ Sigh



I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.


Do you see a squad of people with goofy Brewster Avitars clogging up the forum with weekly threads compairing everyone and everything to Brewster?

Is there a team of Biased Brewster fans shoving him down everyone's throats acting like Brewster is something more than he's proven to be?

In a word, no.

You can rule me out because I have been making threads in Brewster's defense prior to last nights fight, and have been a fan of his for a long time ever since the thunderbox days. Great1 as well. I am not a bandwagon fan, so that excludes me.

And since styles make fights, there is no reason that Lamon can not beat Vitali. VK is akward and would be like an octopus in a phone booth.

no he has not. Though:

1.) Brewster was Meehan's friend...and explained why he had a lack of killer instinct.

2.) Has never quit a fight....showing exactly what his metal is made of.

3.) Biggest win was over KJ (vitali)

4.) Brewster knocked Golota out in 1 round. Golota is better than anyone VK has ever faced by far. LOL!

Sanders was washed up.
Williams was too heavy and weighed close to 300 lbs.

Brewster would K.O. Vitali in 3 or 4 rounds.


LMFAO.... see this what i'm talking about... golota sucks, has never beaten ANYONE, brewster beats him and there people on here thinking LB is one of the best...

/ Sigh



I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.


Do you see a squad of people with goofy Brewster Avitars clogging up the forum with weekly threads compairing everyone and everything to Brewster?

Is there a team of Biased Brewster fans shoving him down everyone's throats acting like Brewster is something more than he's proven to be?

In a word, no.


no, but we are getting alot of people thinking LB is one of the best now and this is just one day after the fight...

You can rule me out because I have been making threads in Brewster's defense prior to last nights fight, and have been a fan of his for a long time ever since the thunderbox days. Great1 as well. I am not a bandwagon fan, so that excludes me.

And since styles make fights, there is no reason that Lamon can not beat Vitali. VK is akward and would be like an octopus in a phone booth.

styles makes fight, what makes you think LB can beat a durable opponent?? when he has ever shown that ability?

no, but we are getting alot of people thinking LB is one of the best now and this is just one day after the fight...

Did you read the thread you're posting in?

Look at my 1st post in this thread.

Brewster looked good last night, so its not out of line for him to recieve some props. Nothing wrong with that.

styles makes fight, what makes you think LB can beat a durable opponent?? when he has ever shown that ability?

When has Vitali ever shown that ability?

never.

Sanders has a glass chin.....
KJ has a glass chin.....
Williams has a glass chin..... etc. Tyson almost knocked Williams out in the first round of their fight. VK's power is very overrated IMO.

Lewis is the only one....and he was not even ready to fight. LOL!

Did you read the thread you're posting in?

Look at my 1st post in this thread.

Brewster looked good last night, so its not out of line for him to recieve some props. Nothing wrong with that.


some props, but people are saying he's one of the best in the division... i cant see him beating VK, byrd or toney.... and would make him an underdog to ruiz, rahman and even donald...

When has Vitali ever shown that ability?

never.
VK has beaten durable guys, he's the only one to KO donald and bean... no they're not great fighter, but they are durable...

some props, but people are saying he's one of the best in the division... i cant see him beating VK, byrd or toney.... and would make him an underdog to ruiz, rahman and even donald...


i thought you were talking like yoda still

i thought you were talking like yoda still

difficult it is, when long posts are

difficult it is, when long posts are


haha thats great.

VK has beaten durable guys, he's the only one to KO donald and bean... no they're not great fighter, but they are durable...

ok....more importantly.

Has Vitali ever faced an opponent that:

1.) Has as much heart and fight in him as Brewster does?
2.) Hits as hard? its questionable...because heavyweights that spar with Lamon say he hits as hard as mike tyson
3.) Is orthodox...and the right size to attack the lanky fighter?
4.) Is as hungry and underrated?

Its dangerous to assume Vitali is going to walk all over him.

i think someone is using run/wknives account, sanders glass chin? LB KO vitali 3-4? i know run isnt a big fan of vitali but that doesnt sound liek him at all, btw what is thunderbox fight ive been meaning to ask that

i think someone is using run/wknives account, sanders glass chin? LB KO vitali 3-4? i know run isnt a big fan of vitali but that doesnt sound liek him at all, btw what is thunderbox fight ive been meaning to ask that

I would not know...because I obviously am not RunWithknives. :rolleyes: And thunderbox was a boxing telecast that was on NBC hosted by Joe Rogan.

sanders glass chin?


Ever hear of Nate Tubbs?

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005751

First of all I gotta say props to Great1. The guy is in service.
Second. I dont think Brewster can beat Byrd but He is got a very good chance against Ruiz imo. Second of all I think Wlad should earn the rematch against Brewster and I dont think that Wlad should fight a good pressure fighter right now. He still needs to learn. Props to Brewster btw. He prepared very well and beat Golota soundly.
Third is that I think that Brewster will get beat by Vitaly if they fight. Brewster only figts one way(or atleast fought the same way against his last three opponenets) And that is coming forward throwning lefy hooks. Vitaly will exploit this trait and will 1-2 the guy to death. Big V is actually pretty good at counterpunching.
Fourth. Damn Golota is one weird guy.

Ever hear of Nate Tubbs?

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005751



so there are other fighters now who are great and have lost early lmao

Ever hear of Nate Tubbs?

http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=005751
these things happen in boxing, it dosn't mean he has a glass chin, he took a lot of punisment from Rahman and klitshko

so there are other fighters now who are great and have lost early lmao


23 fights isnt early

so there are other fighters now who are great and have lost early lmao

And Corrie Sanders isn't one of them.

And Sturm please. Dont say that I think Brewster is unbeatable. He is not. I think Chris Byrd, James Toney, and Calvin Brock would all give him a run for his money.

Yes and LL has a glass jaw too.. that is according to Bozo's logic

why not target ruiz, everyone else does

Yes and LL has a glass jaw too.. that is according to Bozo's logic

Then according to you, Vitali Klitschko couldn't crack glass.

Lewis had an average chin, but made up for it with other things, and avenged his losses.

Corrie Sanders had an average chin, and was blown away in two rounds by Nate Tubbs. A 40 year old Sanders (out of shape) was then able to go 8 rounds with Vitali, who was never able to put him down.

23 fights isnt early


it isnt? well whadda u know

Then according to you, Vitali Klitschko couldn't crack glass.

Lewis had an average chin, but made up for it with other things, and avenged his losses.

Corrie Sanders had an average chin, and was blown away in two rounds by Nate Tubbs. A 40 year old Sanders (out of shape) was then able to go 8 rounds with Vitali, who was never able to put him down.



sanders also went 7 with rahman and since i hear rahman can KO vitali what does that mean?

And Sturm please. Dont say that I think Brewster is unbeatable. He is not. I think Chris Byrd, James Toney, and Calvin Brock would all give him a run for his money.


and all of them would KO vitali as well?

sanders also went 7 with rahman and since i hear rahman can KO vitali what does that mean?

Rahman was also outpointed by Ruiz, who was knocked out in 16 seconds by david tua.

These comparisons are tiresome Sturm.

sanders also went 7 with rahman and since i hear rahman can KO vitali what does that mean?


Rahman couldn't drop Ruiz, and was clearly beaten by him.

What does that mean?

That if Rahman gets by Barrett and fights Klitschko, he'll be nothing more than another sub par opponent for Vitali's record.

Rahman is still one of the best operators in the heavyweight division when he's well prepared, he's still got one of the best jabs out there and is very strong, with a very dangerous right hand, as lennox lewis knows

He did a great job, but let's be realistic.

He lost to Cliff Etienne and Charrles Shufford and Golota has lost every major fight he's ever been involved in.

Brewster and Wlad should rematch next.

If Wlad expects to be taken seriously again, he should win that fight.

If Brewster has improved he should beat Wlad again.

IMO this is the only fight out there for both of them now.

....I can't believe I'm saying this, but great call BOZO!!! I was thinking the same thing and I was gonna make a thread about it. Brewster is better now than he was when he and Wlad fought the first time. Wlad is better conditioned and seems to have his confidence back. This is a fight I would pay alot to see and they are both hooked up with HBO right now. I bet HBO makes this fight happen. Vitali is busy in September and I think Brewster should give Wlad a shot at his title while he is waiting for Vit. Either Wlad steps up and joins the fray again and puts a beating on Brewster or Lamon takes him out, Wlad retires, and then it sets up Brewster/Vitali.

Then according to you, Vitali Klitschko couldn't crack glass.

Lewis had an average chin, but made up for it with other things, and avenged his losses.

Corrie Sanders had an average chin, and was blown away in two rounds by Nate Tubbs. A 40 year old Sanders (out of shape) was then able to go 8 rounds with Vitali, who was never able to put him down.
That discussion was OVER LONG AGO. Lets not open up a new can of worms...

Rahman is still one of the best operators in the heavyweight division when he's well prepared, he's still got one of the best jabs out there and is very strong, with a very dangerous right hand, as lennox lewis knows

It's just too bad that doesn't translate into actual wins when it matters.

Reccent wins over Meehan and Al Cole don't prove anything. Prior to the 5 low callibur wins he just racked up, he lost to Ruiz and Holyfield. Before beating Lewis, he was knocked out out by Maskiev.

Rahman has potential, but it's a rare occasion that does him any good in a significant fight.

Rahman is still one of the best operators in the heavyweight division when he's well prepared, he's still got one of the best jabs out there and is very strong, with a very dangerous right hand, as lennox lewis knows

Absolutely. Nobody can discredit that from him. The division is so convoluted, that nobody is a clear favorite. In My opinion....the two best heavyweights are Wlad and Brewster. And that is solely in my opinion.

Nobody is a "clear" favorite....because there is not one. People may be looking for one...but he does not exist yet, because the top fighters never make attempts to fight eachother. The whole matter is based on approval for the fighter himself.

Its obvious though....by the way people post on here....the conscensus is: Vitali is King. He is clearly not! damn it.

....I can't believe I'm saying this, but great call BOZO!!! I was thinking the same thing and I was gonna make a thread about it. Brewster is better now than he was when he and Wlad fought the first time. Wlad is better conditioned and seems to have his confidence back. This is a fight I would pay alot to see and they are both hooked up with HBO right now. I bet HBO makes this fight happen. Vitali is busy in September and I think Brewster should give Wlad a shot at his title while he is waiting for Vit. Either Wlad steps up and joins the fray again and puts a beating on Brewster or Lamon takes him out, Wlad retires, and then it sets up Brewster/Vitali.
bad call. this nfight won't happen in the near future. If it does, i'll change my name to Bozo

Vitali is a King!!! Vitali is a King!!! Vitali is a King!!! :p :p :p
Convert to Klitism or DIE.
Just watched Chronicles of Riddick again today. :D

bad call. this nfight won't happen in the near future. If it does, i'll change my name to Bozo
But if it is not even in the making until the end of the year, you change yours. Deal? lol

Vitali is a King!!! Vitali is a King!!! Vitali is a King!!! :p :p :p
Convert to Klitism or DIE.
Just watched Chronicles of Riddick again today. :D

Your a damn Wlad fan like I am. So cool it. LOL!

BTW, Bozo..
This is the 3rd time I'm asking you to show me your top 10 HW list.

Curiosity kills me

bad call. this nfight won't happen in the near future. If it does, i'll change my name to Bozo

It's clear the only reason you say this is because you're afraid the result may be the same.


I don't recall anyone saying it "WILL" happen next; just that it 'should'.

Once again, if there's any title Wlad deserves a crack at (with his 2-4 record in his last 6 fights) it's the WBO.

Everyone is busy with fights lined up, except for Ruiz who no one should take seriosuly.

Many people (laughably) believe Wlad lost the Brewster fight because of verious excuses, and Brewster would generate good acclaim and money in beating Wlad again, which he certianlly has a good chance of doing again.

As it was in the 1st post of the thread, this is opinion based. This is the fight I would like to see both for next of them.

BTW, Bozo..
This is the 3rd time I'm asking you to show me your top 10 HW list.

Curiosity kills me


I'll be sure to get right on it. Because what you think and want is something I hold with high regard....

:rolleyes:

I'll be sure to get right on it. Because what you think and want is something I hold with high regard....

:rolleyes:
No it's just that I've never see you give anyone "current" (not just Klitschkos) any credit.

Thus I really want to see your rankings.. no comments (such as: until proven...) next to names needed

ok....more importantly.

Has Vitali ever faced an opponent that:

1.) Has as much heart and fight in him as Brewster does?
2.) Hits as hard? its questionable...because heavyweights that spar with Lamon say he hits as hard as mike tyson
3.) Is orthodox...and the right size to attack the lanky fighter?
4.) Is as hungry and underrated?

Its dangerous to assume Vitali is going to walk all over him.


here's a better way of putting it, Brewster has not as faced as good opposition as the top guys have and he's lost to much worse fighters, thats why he cannot beat good, durable fighters like byrd, toney and vk.. if brewster was all that you've said he would not have lost to and struggled with jouyneymen....

No it's just that I've never see you give anyone "current" (not just Klitschkos) any credit.

Thus I really want to see your rankings.. no comments (such as: until proven...) next to names needed

I would think it's pretty self explanitory.

This is one of the weakest points in the history of the Division.

Guys like Byrd and Klitschko would be at the top.

Guys like Toney Ruiz and Brewster would follow.

After that, throw in guys like Rahman, Barrett, Brock etc.

You could argue till the cows come home about minor points of ranking one above or below the other.

There's really no point in doing a top ten when the division is in such dire need of being sorted out.

here's a better way of putting it, Brewster has not as faced as good opposition as the top guys have and he's lost to much worse fighters, thats why he cannot beat good, durable fighters like byrd, toney and vk.. if brewster was all that you've said he would not have lost to and struggled with jouyneymen....

I dont agree with the bolded area at at all.

Tyson was knocked out by Buster Douglas...what does that tell you? Nothing. Riddick Bowe was Holy's damn sparring partner!

brewster was outboxed and schooled by journymen... brewster is a slugger not a boxer, like tua, if he cant get them outta there, he's in trouble...

what happened to styles make fights run :eek: :rolleyes:

when vitali starts beating all these guys who u claim to be able to beat him and when your out of fighters what are u gonna say then, i know what'll say, o there garbage blah blah.

well right now everybody in the HW is garbage.its just some garbage is a lil better than the other garbage.if brewster rushes miss vit then i can see him KOing the big bum.but if quitschko can take him beyound 2 then vit would finish him in 4.wlad is the only fighter that is almost not garbage.if he can get his drive and heart back into the ring he could break out as a real HW champ.

I would think it's pretty self explanitory.

This is one of the weakest points in the history of the Division.

Guys like Byrd and Klitschko would be at the top.

Guys like Toney Ruiz and Brewster would follow.

After that, throw in guys like Rahman, Barrett, Brock etc.

You could argue till the cows come home about minor points of ranking one above or below the other.

There's really no point in doing a top ten when the division is in such dire need of being sorted out.Well, with that said, why not try to make the best of the division as it will clear up within the next year or two.
Or do you really prefer to criticize it until it does happen?

Remember, I said I'm a fan of Klitschkos (with Vlad being my favorite of the two) and I do agree that at this point Vitaly is overrated and Wlad is mentally hurt and is still being underrated. Nor have I ever said that Vitaly is unbeatable. One of the first posts I posted last night "I think Vitaly has met his match"

But unlike you, I choose to give credit to fighters when it's deserved.
As much as I hate Toney's trash talking, I give him a lot of credit for being a smart and good fighter. Same to Brewster, I was almost certain that he was gonna win last night's fight and I've always said that Golota already blew his 3 title shots and it's just not meant to be for him.

Really, give credit when it's deserved, other than bashing everyone. You'll live better :-)

Well, with that said, why not try to make the best of the division as it will clear up within the next year or two.
Or do you really prefer to criticize it until it does happen?

Really, give credit when it's deserved, other than bashing everyone. You'll live better :-)


Your problem is that you act like you're omnipotent.

How the hell do you know when and where I have or haven't given credit?

I gave credit to Byrd for being a small Heavyweight who's held his title longer than anyone else. I gave credit to Brock for taking a step forward for beating McCline. I gave Toney credit for clearly beating Ruiz. I even gave Vitali credit for being one of the better in a long list of weak fighters.


Your problem, is that you've taken offense to me not giving credit to a various number of your Klitschko based opinions, and want to paint me as someone who gives no credit.

I give credit where it's due, not just to throw around like feed at a petting zoo.

There's no way you can tell me I'm out of line with that post I made accessing the current Heavyweight rankings.

what happened to styles make fights run :eek: :rolleyes:

when vitali starts beating all these guys who u claim to be able to beat him and when your out of fighters what are u gonna say then, i know what'll say, o there garbage blah blah.

VK reminds me of "Irish" Terry Konklin from the movie "The great White Hype"

Who are "all these guys"? I only said Brewster, Wlad, and Rahman. LOL!

And I dont do that like you do. You made a thread titled "Golota cant lose"

then you called him garbage.....thats you man. not me.

Your problem is that you act like you're omnipotent.

How the hell do you know when and where I have or haven't given credit?

I gave credit to Byrd for being a small Heavyweight who's held his title longer than anyone else. I gave credit to Brock for taking a step forward for beating McCline. I gave Toney credit for clearly beating Ruiz. I even gave Vitali credit for being one of the better in a long list of weak fighters.


Your problem, is that you've taken offense to me not giving credit to a various number of your Klitschko based opinions, and want to paint me as someone who gives no credit.

I give credit where it's due, not just to throw around like feed at a petting zoo.

There's no way you can tell me I'm out of line with that post I made accessing the current Heavyweight rankings.1) Bozo, who told you I have a problem? LOL
"How the hell do you know when and where I have or haven't given credit?"
How do I know? I don't, but I base my opinion on based on your posts. Perhaps I've missed all those positive things you've said.

2) Klitschkos...? What?? Stop reading between the lines..
Find me one post where I say Klitschko's are invincible. Every thread/post with you turns into Klitschko hating. Why do you always have to bring them into discussion.

3) Have I said your rankings were out of line?

again... la-la land

brewster was outboxed and schooled by journymen... brewster is a slugger not a boxer, like tua, if he cant get them outta there, he's in trouble...

I will be the first one to admitt that. Because it is true. I do however think he is capable of getting him out of there. In a previous post...I mentioned how Toney, Brock, Byrd...could all beat Brewster. Because they have some decent boxing ability.

Once again though. I merely said Vitali is akward, and would be fighting like an octopus in a phone booth. Brewster would attack him and take the fight to him.

And by me saying he is the next best heavyweight does in no way shape or form mean....he is unbeatable.

LB is tough, durable and has puncher's chance against almost anyone, but thats it a puncher's chance.... i see toney, byrd and maybe even donald, barrett and rahman beating him.... i think VK would KO him in the late rounds...

LB is tough, durable and has puncher's chance against almost anyone, but thats it a puncher's chance.... i see toney, byrd and maybe even donald, barrett and rahman beating him.... i think VK would KO him in the late rounds...


I agree completely.

1) Bozo, who told you I have a problem? LOL
"How the hell do you know when and where I have or haven't given credit?"
How do I know? I don't, but I base my opinion on based on your posts. Perhaps I've missed all those positive things you've said.

2) Klitschkos...? What?? Stop reading between the lines..
Find me one post where I say Klitschko's are invincible. Every thread/post with you turns into Klitschko hating. Why do you always have to bring them into discussion.

3) Have I said your rankings were out of line?

again... la-la land

Exactly, the only posts of mine you choose to remember are the ones that hurt your feelings.

And where did you say you had a problem with my rankings post? When you told me I should be giving more credit to a bunch of average fighters that for the most part I can't be botherd to rank.

It's really funny how you bend and twist things, after you're the one who asked me to discuss them in the 1st place.

Once again, you live in 'Klitschko land', which is why when you are angered by tiny factual statements, you refer to anything outside your comfort zone as 'la la land'.

If you don't like what I have to say, don't follow me around and wonder and ask me 3 times what my feelings are about something.

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Brewster typically comes out more methodical and Golota is a plodding giant with slow yet powerful punches. Brewster came out with a great game plan and blitzed Golota. He gambled away his stamina, as no heavyweight could possibly keep up that type of attack for 12 rounds. Even Tua and Ibeabuchi had to take some rest.

BUT......No way Golota could have survived that round though coz he got caught with some perfectly aimed left hooks. Even if the ref let him stand up and fight after the third knockdown, he was stunned and bewildered. He was not trained for this onslaught at all during his training.

I agree completely.


wise you are

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Corny!

You could do a better job!

HOW DOES HE DESERVE THAT RANKING?? HAHA

Beats me!!

Why don't you take a look at their official website and ask them. After all, I'm delusional, remember?!

http://www.ibf-usba-boxing.com/
Wlad doesnt deserve a title shot but Golota got one and Golota didint have any recent wins to earn the title shot, how the hell can u say Wlad doesnt deserve a title shot if he deserves it more then half of the guys in the division, explain to me that ****...

no he has not. Though:

1.) Brewster was Meehan's friend...and explained why he had a lack of killer instinct.

2.) Has never quit a fight....showing exactly what his metal is made of.

3.) Biggest win was over KJ (vitali)

4.) Brewster knocked Golota out in 1 round. Golota is better than anyone VK has ever faced by far. LOL!

Sanders was washed up.
Williams was too heavy and weighed close to 300 lbs.

Brewster would K.O. Vitali in 3 or 4 rounds.Vitali will beat anyone trying to fight him u will see then u will shut ur damn face up