Dan Hardy gets a shot at the Ultimate Fighting Championship welterweight title when he faces champion Georges St-Pierre at UFC 111 at the Prudential Center in Newark, N.J.

His game plan is simple: knock GSP out.

“It’s difficult because he is looking good at the moment and it’s a difficult spotlight to be in, but all I need to do is land that one punch and that’s all I’m interested in. My game is striking. He knows that. I know that. It’s going to be no surprise that he’s going to want to take me down, and I’m going to want to knock him out,” Hardy told MMAWeekly.com content partner TapouT Radio.

“I’ve just got to go in there and apply my game plan. I’ve been working hard. I know exactly what I’ve got to do.”

St-Pierre may be the most difficult fighter to game plan for in the sport, but Hardy didn’t deviate too much from his normal training habits for the fight.

“I’ve got a good bunch of guys on my team. They’ve always prepared me well for fights, so I didn’t want to change too much. I brought in a couple of new guys, a couple of wrestlers that are on the British team and things like that. I brought in a couple different guys, but if it’s not broke, don’t fix it. I’ve got a winning formula a the moment,” said the British brawler. “I’m just preparing as normal for a good tear up, and I’m looking forward to it.”

Hardy hopes to keep the fight standing where he feels he has a definite advantage over the Canadian titleholder.

“I don’t think his striking is particularly brilliant. He’s a great fighter, don’t get me wrong, but he’s a great well-rounded fighter. In a kickboxing match, I’d be able to play with him pretty much,” stated Hardy.

“The thing that makes him effective with his striking is his ability to take people down. So he’s effective because people are scared of the takedown, and because they’re scared of the takedown they’re not putting fists on him, which is how he’s winning his fights. Serra went in there with a different frame of mind, you know, let’s put some fists on him and see what happens, and we all know what happened.”

Serra shocked the world with his first round TKO of the Canadia superstar.

“I think the difference between me and the other people that he’s been fighting is that they’ve been conscious of his takedown,” said the 27-year-old British fighter. “I’m the kind of guy that will just swing at him with a grin on my face and if I end up on the floor, I’ll worry about that when I get there.”

But what if St-Pierre does get Hardy to the ground?

“You’ll be seeing all kinds of things in there. I’ll be throwing everything from the floor. I’ve got a few tricks,” said the Team Rough House trained athlete. “If it hits the ground, everybody knows what my game plan is. I’m going to get back to the feet so I can beat the fake tan off him. That’s all I’m interested in.” [source] (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=10873&zoneid=13)


lol, well those are some big words. If anyone can kayo GSP, I would think it would be Dan Hardy.(used to think Swick could but he is a anorexic crackhead.) I gotta agree(regardless of what people think) with Hardy about GSP's standup. But so far everyone has failed, I wonder if Hardy can get the win.

A kayo would make me shat myself.

GSP will **** Dan Hardy up.

I want hardy to win, but gsp is going to play with him. No one at ww can **** with gsp when it comes to wrestling and he can pretty much take anyone down at will. I fancy him to just keep taking dan hardy down and doing to normal lay and pray on him. To me, since gsp ws ko'd he's been one boring **** to watch. same old takedown after takedown. I want to see a stand up war, not someone taking the other to the floor laying there for 2 mins, get up and repeat gain over and over for 5 rounds.

I want hardy to win, but gsp is going to play with him. No one at ww can **** with gsp when it comes to wrestling and he can pretty much take anyone down at will. I fancy him to just keep taking dan hardy down and doing to normal lay and pray on him. To me, since gsp ws ko'd he's been one boring **** to watch. same old takedown after takedown. I want to see a stand up war, not someone taking the other to the floor laying there for 2 mins, get up and repeat gain over and over for 5 rounds.


That's blasphemy in this subforum. Anyone who says GSP lays and prays is subject to flame and red k. :rofl:

Just a warning. It happened to me. Even if it is true.

I want hardy to win, but gsp is going to play with him. No one at ww can **** with gsp when it comes to wrestling and he can pretty much take anyone down at will. I fancy him to just keep taking dan hardy down and doing to normal lay and pray on him. To me, since gsp ws ko'd he's been one boring **** to watch. same old takedown after takedown. I want to see a stand up war, not someone taking the other to the floor laying there for 2 mins, get up and repeat gain over and over for 5 rounds.

I am Nick Fury, and I approve this message.

But I think GSP is going to submit him or Hardy just might land that one shot, it wont last all 5.

I think the only person that is a threat to GSP is PAUL DALEY.

GSP can take Hardy down at any time...

lol, well those are some big words. If anyone can kayo GSP, I would think it would be Dan Hardy.(used to think Swick could but he is a anorexic crackhead.) I gotta agree(regardless of what people think) with Hardy about GSP's standup. But so far everyone has failed, I wonder if Hardy can get the win.

A kayo would make me shat myself.

Dont worry, you wont be shatin your self that night. GSP by KO.

I want hardy to win, but gsp is going to play with him. No one at ww can **** with gsp when it comes to wrestling and he can pretty much take anyone down at will. I fancy him to just keep taking dan hardy down and doing to normal lay and pray on him. To me, since gsp ws ko'd he's been one boring **** to watch. same old takedown after takedown. I want to see a stand up war, not someone taking the other to the floor laying there for 2 mins, get up and repeat gain over and over for 5 rounds.

GSP does not lay n pray. :skull:

Hardy's stand-up starting to become disgustingly overrated. He hasn't KO'd anyone worth a damn in his career.

Honestly, and this isn't even ballwashing, GSP doesn't even have to take this fight down to win. He beats Hardy everywhere

lay and pray

You and everyone else who calls GSP and LnP fighter, needs to go rent UFC 9 and watch Shamrock/Severn 2. Until then you truly have no idea what lay and pray is.

Or Gracie/Shamrock from UFC 5.

Or pretty much any Pat Miletich fight.


I want to see a stand up war

Then watch K-1 or boxing.

the guy beat marcus friggin davis via split decision. he beat mike swick via UD. he's not gonna knock anybody out, especially not a guy like GSP. alves couldn't even hurt him. bj penn, probably the best boxer in the ufc, couldnt knock him out or land any big shots. if GSP does what we all know he can do he will shred hardy in the first round, take him to the ground and submit him via arm bar or whatever he wants. maybe he will GNP him too.

of course anything can happen so who knows. but the chance of hardy knocking out GSP has to be like .00000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

Dan Hardy is just another fighter that has used his mouth to get a title shot rather than putting together a solid run. The guy hasn't beaten anyone convincingly that I would consider a contender let alone anyone who has been a world champion or contested for a world title. The guy has been able to bypass fighting guys like Koscheck, Fitch, Alves among others and people actually think he's in with a chance. Hell, I don't think he'd even get by Chris Lytle. The guys he has beaten since he came to the UFC don't exactly line up as a who's who of top line 170lb'ers. Gono (in a fight which I don't think either man won) via SD, Davis via SD, Swick via UD and his only stoppage over Markham. None of those guys even come close to GSP's level, in fact they aren't even on the level of anyone GSP has faced. I truly believe that he is in the position he is in because GSP needs an opponent, and Hardy is one that talks enough **** that it helps sell the PPV because it bounces off GSP's nice guy attitude so well.

Hardy may say he's not gonna worry about being taken down, but he talks alot of ****, and everytime he does he comes out cautious and looks to potshot. But that isn't gonna work on GSP. Hardy is gonna get taken down, and when he's there he isn't gonna be able to do anything simply because he isn't good on the ground, or even close to GSP's skill level. The only reason Joe Rogan sucks his dick so much on commentary with regards to his ground game is because Hardy's BJJ trainer is Eddie Bravo aka Rogan's butt buddy.

And I don't see him knocking him out either. GSP ain't chinny, just look at the first round of the first BJ Penn fight. The guy took punishment for 5 rounds and sufferred a broken nose and still grinded out a decision. The only time he got stopped was mainly down to a mistimed punch which ended up hitting him on the back of the head against Serra. Hardy's power is overrated. Paul Daley is the only 170lb'er that can KO anyone in the division.

GSP will win and win convincingly. IMO there is nothing Hardy does better than GSP.

Anyone who dispute the fact that since, the serra fight he has become a lay n pray fighter. I used to really like watching gsp early in his career, but since he got ko'd by serra he has become very very boring to watch, He either needs to start exiting the fans again by ko'ing people, or move up to middleweight and try his lay and pray tactic with bigger boys. He cant keep just taking people down and laying on them for 25 minute, the fans will start to be put off very quickly. I for one have been turned off by his recent tactics. He used to be very good, with lots of kicks and punches with great submissions. now its just a couple of punches, takedown rinse and repeat.

I train with Hardy's boxing coach and head cornerman, and trust me, he is a very astute and experienced trainer. Thus, I know Hardy is going to be a threat to anybody, if the fight stays standing. He may not have had a highlight reel KO since Markham, but that is because he is trained to bring his hands back to his chin, keep his balance, and box effectively. With his power, there is no doubt that Dan Hardy could have viciously KO'd all of his UFC opponents to date. But why risk trading shots and going for the KO, when you can box sensibly, walk away without being hurt and go home with the victory?

Dan keeps it tight and has very good timing. If you rush in against him you will probably taste canvas. It's no wonder why Swick had him pressed up against the cage for 90% of their fight. He didn't want none, in the middle of the ring. If it stayed standing I believe Hary would have put Swick to sleep.

I give Hardy no hope of beating GSP. Good write up from Jakks and totally agree with him.

Anyone who dispute the fact that since, the serra fight he has become a lay n pray fighter. I used to really like watching gsp early in his career, but since he got ko'd by serra he has become very very boring to watch, He either needs to start exiting the fans again by ko'ing people, or move up to middleweight and try his lay and pray tactic with bigger boys. He cant keep just taking people down and laying on them for 25 minute, the fans will start to be put off very quickly. I for one have been turned off by his recent tactics. He used to be very good, with lots of kicks and punches with great submissions. now its just a couple of punches, takedown rinse and repeat.

You have no idea what Lay and Pray is. Seriosuly get a clue and watch old Dan Severn fights if you want to see lay and pray.

Lay and Pray involves taking your opponent down and making no attempt to pass or deal damage.

GSP is always actively trying to pass, often looks for submissions, and does heavy damage with elbows.

Jake Rosholt is a Lay and Prayer, Mike Pierce is a Lay and Prayer, Jon Fitch is a Lay and Prayer. Not GSP.

Besides how can you blame the guy for sticking to his strengths? Why is nobody *****ing at Anderson Silva because he never takes the fight to the ground?

And as far as I can tell, GSP isn't losing any fans or turning any of them off. He's arguably the most popular of the current 5 UFC champions.

a think gsp is quite boring to watch he constantly just does take dons it works though and he is the man at the weight

And I don't see him knocking him out either. GSP ain't chinny, just look at the first round of the first BJ Penn fight. The guy took punishment for 5 rounds and sufferred a broken nose and still grinded out a decision. The only time he got stopped was mainly down to a mistimed punch which ended up hitting him on the back of the head against Serra. Hardy's power is overrated. Paul Daley is the only 170lb'er that can KO anyone in the division.

GSP will win and win convincingly. IMO there is nothing Hardy does better than GSP.

Don't forget some broken ribs. I believed Penn broke/cracked some of his ribs too. GSP was all fuzzed up after that fight.

Anthony Johnson also has the power to KO anyone in the division. Don't forget about him. Everything else about his game is sub-par though. lol


(not in response to Jak)I personally like Hardy's stand up technique. Very crisp, he just one shots too much. Left hook and then smiles, repeat. :nonono:

The only thing worse than gsp's striking is his striking defense. The guy got destroyed on his feet by matt serra.

The only thing worse than gsp's striking is his striking defense. The guy got destroyed on his feet by matt serra.

3 years ago and got hit behind the ear, which will rock anyone. Some people change, ya know.

Now **** off

You have no idea what Lay and Pray is. Seriosuly get a clue and watch old Dan Severn fights if you want to see lay and pray.

Lay and Pray involves taking your opponent down and making no attempt to pass or deal damage.

GSP is always actively trying to pass, often looks for submissions, and does heavy damage with elbows.

Jake Rosholt is a Lay and Prayer, Mike Pierce is a Lay and Prayer, Jon Fitch is a Lay and Prayer. Not GSP.

Besides how can you blame the guy for sticking to his strengths? Why is nobody *****ing at Anderson Silva because he never takes the fight to the ground?

And as far as I can tell, GSP isn't losing any fans or turning any of them off. He's arguably the most popular of the current 5 UFC champions.
so your honestly telling me, you would rather watch gsp make no real attempt to finish people of and instead choose to take tehm down and make a real weak attempt to wear them down a little for 5 rounds. Or watch someone like thiago alves who activley steps forward throwing bombs and actually trying to make the fight exiting to watch for teh fans and provide exitment for all those people who pay alotta money to go watch him fight. People dont moan at a.silva becuase when he turns up, he's damm good to watch, you know when he's on form there will be fireworks and thats far more exiting than the gsp who will take you down, let u up take you down, let u up, take you down again. Im getting bored typing about it, imagine watching that **** for halfhour or so. then have hounds like you lick his ass over how exiting it was to watch. get off the bandwagon and admit its ****ing boring to watch and people will gradually start to get bored of it.

The only thing worse than gsp's striking is his striking defense. The guy got destroyed on his feet by matt serra.

kyokushin guys aren't really known for their defense

so your honestly telling me, you would rather watch gsp make no real attempt to finish people of and instead choose to take tehm down and make a real weak attempt to wear them down a little for 5 rounds. Or watch someone like thiago alves who activley steps forward throwing bombs and actually trying to make the fight exiting to watch for teh fans and provide exitment for all those people who pay alotta money to go watch him fight. People dont moan at a.silva becuase when he turns up, he's damm good to watch, you know when he's on form there will be fireworks and thats far more exiting than the gsp who will take you down, let u up take you down, let u up, take you down again. Im getting bored typing about it, imagine watching that **** for halfhour or so. then have hounds like you lick his ass over how exiting it was to watch. get off the bandwagon and admit its ****ing boring to watch and people will gradually start to get bored of it.

His username is "ground st. pound" he isn't going to agree with what your saying. Even if it is true. It's like telling Pac-Boy that Pacquiao needs to improve his defense.

kyokushin guys aren't really known for their defense

Exactly. They learn to punch from the hip and take punches head on. :dunno:

His username is "ground st. pound" he isn't going to agree with what your saying. Even if it is true. It's like telling Pac-Boy that Pacquiao needs to improve his defense.



Exactly. They learn to punch from the hip and take punches head on. :dunno:
Its sad really. You think grown up can take advice. Cotto is my favourite fighter, but its clear he was outclassed by manny, as his defence is terrible. I cant see how you can dispute since the serra fight gsp is scared ****less to trade or even try and ko someone clean.

so your honestly telling me, you would rather watch gsp make no real attempt to finish people of and instead choose to take tehm down and make a real weak attempt to wear them down a little for 5 rounds. Or watch someone like thiago alves who activley steps forward throwing bombs and actually trying to make the fight exiting to watch for teh fans and provide exitment for all those people who pay alotta money to go watch him fight.

You must be watching a different fighter/fights or you can only appreciate one style of fighting.

I can appreciate virtually any type of style. You seem to only be able to appreciate guys who stand-up and try to knock people out cold. While I can appreciate that kind of fighter as well, that doesn't make every other fighter boring because they don't fight that way.

GSP has finished 3 out of his last 6 fights and unless you haven't been looking he's not fighting a bunch of ****ing scrubs. He's fighting top of the food chain WW's, legit contenders. Not bums.

If he was fighting the Frank Triggs, Mike Swicks, and Matt Hughes' of the world, and he wasn't finishing those fights, you would have a more solid argument that he is "boring"




People dont moan at a.silva becuase when he turns up, he's damm good to watch, you know when he's on form there will be fireworks

yeah because he stands-up which any human being with a pulse and any kind of language barrier can understand and appreciate.

It takes a lot more knowledge and general understanding of what going on on the ground than it does to watch two guys trade shots standing. What you see as being a blanket, I and many others see as mastery of BJJ, Guard Passing, Smooth Transitions and Beautiful Takedowns.

Also it's never a matter of Anderson "showing up" or being "on form"

Anderson has always been exciting because his opponents give him opportunities by being reckless and careless. It has nothing to do with him "showing up"

Anderson's fights with Cote and Leites were boring because they didn't create any opportunities for him. Not because Anderson simply didn't feel like fighting.


and thats far more exiting than the gsp who will take you down, let u up take you down, let u up, take you down again. Im getting bored typing about it

Again you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

imagine watching that **** for halfhour or so. then have hounds like you lick his ass over how exiting it was to watch. get off the bandwagon and admit its ****ing boring to watch and people will gradually start to get bored of it.

You know what, stick to boxing. Because you can't seem to comprehend what goes on in a fight when it's no longer standing up.

Its sad really. You think grown up can take advice. Cotto is my favourite fighter, but its clear he was outclassed by manny, as his defence is terrible. I cant see how you can dispute since the serra fight gsp is scared ****less to trade or even try and ko someone clean.

Take advice how? By listening to your pro-stand-up elitist dumbass about how fighting on the ground is boring? Ha

GSP has never had one shot KO power, so him trying to stand and get a "clean" one punch KO is hopeless.

Secondly, what is so wrong with sticking to your strong points?

Yeah, let's just have GSP try for the KO and get risk getting knocked out when he knows he can take it to the ground and do whatever he wants?

Oh and Also, No1.

Can you please answer me this question.

Who has been able to finish Fitch, Alves or Koscheck as of recent?

Hmmm that's what I figured. Like I said these guys GSP is fighting aren't exactly scrubs.

-Fitch has never been finished in the UFC and has only been finished once in his career...by a MW!!!

-Alves has been finished once in the UFC by an upkick

-Koscheck has been finished twice in his career. Once by Paulo Thiago who has proven to be a legit beast at WW, and Drew Fickett when Koscheck was still relatively "green"

hells yea hes gona ko gsc...that greaser has overrated standup

hells yea hes gona ko gsc...that greaser has overrated standup

Boo hoo, BJ Penn fan.

U mad BJ is 0-2?

lol, well those are some big words. If anyone can kayo GSP, I would think it would be Dan Hardy.(used to think Swick could but he is a anorexic crackhead.) I gotta agree(regardless of what people think) with Hardy about GSP's standup. But so far everyone has failed, I wonder if Hardy can get the win.

A kayo would make me shat myself.

GSP's standup > Hardy's standup

Hardy's standup isn't that great. He is just another hype/hope job for Dana White. Dan Hardy is his new UK guy and if he wasn't from the UK, he wouldn't have gotten this title shot and nobody would care about him.

GSP's standup > Hardy's standup

Hardy's standup isn't that great. He is just another hype/hope job for Dana White. Dan Hardy is his new UK guy and if he wasn't from the UK, he wouldn't have gotten this title shot and nobody would care about him.

How the hell is Hardy a hype job if nobody gives him a chance in this fight? Hardy deserves his shot as much as anybody. I don't believe he will beat GSP, but there is nobody more deserving than Hardy for the title shot at the moment. Fitch, Swick, Koscheck, Tiago and Alves have all lost to each other or to GSP. Hardy is entitled to his shot. If not, GSP might as well retire from the sport if nobody is fit to fight him.

How the hell is Hardy a hype job if nobody gives him a chance in this fight? Hardy deserves his shot as much as anybody. I don't believe he will beat GSP, but there is nobody more deserving than Hardy for the title shot at the moment. Fitch, Swick, Koscheck, Tiago and Alves have all lost to each other or to GSP. Hardy is entitled to his shot. If not, GSP might as well retire from the sport if nobody is fit to fight him.

Hardy is hyped because ppl actually think he has great standup.

and Thiago deserves the shot more than Hardy. He beat Swick(submission) and Koscheck. Hardy beat Swick(decision) and.....

You have no idea what Lay and Pray is. Seriosuly get a clue and watch old Dan Severn fights if you want to see lay and pray.

Lay and Pray involves taking your opponent down and making no attempt to pass or deal damage.

GSP is always actively trying to pass, often looks for submissions, and does heavy damage with elbows.

Jake Rosholt is a Lay and Prayer, Mike Pierce is a Lay and Prayer, Jon Fitch is a Lay and Prayer. Not GSP.

Besides how can you blame the guy for sticking to his strengths? Why is nobody *****ing at Anderson Silva because he never takes the fight to the ground?

And as far as I can tell, GSP isn't losing any fans or turning any of them off. He's arguably the most popular of the current 5 UFC champions.

To be honest, I went through a phase of letting go of my dislike for GSP's style and it didn't quite work out for me.

I also watched some of his early fights recently (there's a torrent of his career floating about) and it was largely the same sort of ****. I respect the man, and respect his accomplishments, but I'm actually put off by his style of fighting. As you say, you can't knock him for sticking to his strengths. At the end of the day, winning is the most important thing. That doesn't lead me to liking his fights though.

I'd still be interested to see him fight against a legitimately threatening opponent (i.e., as BJ Penn was expected to be). I'm just not interested in seeing him fight showcase fights against cans.

And that of course says more for him then anything else, as he is that far above the competition. He is a very elite fighter and I have to respect him for that.

Boo hoo, BJ Penn fan.

U mad BJ is 0-2?

jesus christ your level of nuthugging is reaching critical mass....im not gona have the same 800 page discussion with you again and read about you overrated gsc's wins over b level fighters(besides fitch hes A level) and yes i am upset that bj is 0-2 because he should be 1-1...your the one that seems to be boo hooing since you get your panties in a bunch every time some one doesnt verbally swallow gsc's jizz like you do....bj penn is the best fighter in the world after myself... im better than you, gsc and all others in fact im probably the greatest man that ever lived

jesus christ your level of nuthugging is reaching critical mass....im not gona have the same 800 page discussion with you again and read about you overrated gsc's wins over b level fighters(besides fitch hes A level) and yes i am upset that bj is 0-2 because he should be 1-1...your the one that seems to be boo hooing since you get your panties in a bunch every time some one doesnt verbally swallow gsc's jizz like you do....bj penn is the best fighter in the world after myself... im better than you, gsc and all others in fact im probably the greatest man that ever lived

It's not nuthugging it's just facts.

U mad homo?


Well actually yeah, I am a GSP nuthugger, however not a blind nuthugger (of Penn) like you.

It's not nuthugging it's just facts.

U mad homo?

whats facts that some of his wins are against overrated fighters? or that im better than you gsc and all others

im not mad i never get mad thats what makes me better than you....homo lol are we doing middle school insults now? ok then....i know you are but what am i

and its cool there really is nothing wrong with being a nut hugger and im not blind at all must i repeat myself?...im the ****ing man....when i die and you stand on my grave...ima still be above you

whats facts that some of his wins are against overrated fighters? or that im better than you gsc and all others

Are you that dumb and hateful that you just threw your favorite fighter (BJ) under the bus by calling him overrated just to discredit GSP?

I don't intend on arguing with you for 5 pages. It's not that important to me.

But it's clear you still aren't over the beating BJ received over a year ago.

Yes you are mad.

/pointless argument

Are you that dumb and hateful that you just threw your favorite fighter (BJ) under the bus by calling him overrated?

I don't intend on arguing with you for 5 pages. It's not that important to me.

But it's clear you still aren't over the beating BJ received over a year ago.

Yes you are mad.

/pointless argument

i didnt call him overrated...i said some of his wins not all numb nuts....koscheck and alves are b level fighters serra and sherk at 170 are b level....frank trigg is c-b level

im over the asswhooping he took it didnt really have a huge affect on me really

not mad at all i find your post humerous and i beg you to continue

and if you dont want to argue for 5 pages thats fine...so how about 4 instead i want to see how many different ways i can tell you how much better i am than you

i didnt call him overrated...i said some of his wins not all numb nuts....koscheck and alves are b level fighters serra and sherk at 170 are b level....frank trigg is c-b level

im over the asswhooping he took it didnt really have a huge affect on me really

not mad at all i find your post humerous and i beg you to continue

I can't believe how dumb you are sometimes.

Koscheck and Alves are both legit top WW's

Frank Trigg was a legit top WW when he fought St. Pierre.

You are still clearly mad because you have to refer to "grease" in every post involving St. Pierre.

I can't believe than you can sit there and say BJ is better than GSP and has had a better resume than GSP when GSP beat him twice and BJ is beating up fighters like Florian, Diego and coming soon, Edgar. :nonono:

Ah. It's useless arguing.

BJ and GSP fans will never get along.

I can't believe how dumb you are sometimes.

Koscheck and Alves are both legit top WW's

Frank Trigg was a legit top WW when he fought St. Pierre.

You are still clearly mad because you have to refer to "grease" in every post involving St. Pierre.

I can't believe than you can sit there and say BJ is better than GSP and has had a better resume than GSP when GSP beat him twice and BJ is beating up fighters like Florian, Diego and coming soon, Edgar. :nonono:

Ah. It's useless arguing.

BJ and GSP fans will never get along.

koshcheck has beaten no one and its hilarious that you think hes a top welter...alves has an impressive victory over karo and has awesome standup but he uses it in the most idiotic of ways which really hurts him more than help.....kenny florian is like fitch because while he is many levels below the champion hes the 2nd best in that division

i havent said grease in about 3 posts so your post is void

the thing is that if gsc were to fight florian sanchez and edgar than you would make it seem like they are the greatest of all time

and i like to think me and you get along just fine its like your my mma lounge brother...i mean me and you arent equal since im better than you but kind of like a little brother who follows the "cool" trends

koshcheck has beaten no one and its hilarious that you think hes a top welter...alves has an impressive victory over karo and has awesome standup but he uses it in the most idiotic of ways which really hurts him more than help.....kenny florian is like fitch because while he is many levels below the champion hes the 2nd best in that division

I'm not going to go over Kos and Alves again. They are top opponents, they are ranked. Regardless of how dumb their gamplans and utilization of their skills were during their fights with St. Pierre.

If I remember correctly Florian wasn't even top 5 when he fought Penn.

i havent said grease in about 3 posts so your post is void

but you refer to him as GSC, all the same.

the thing is that if gsc were to fight florian sanchez and edgar than you would make it seem like they are the greatest of all time

No I wouldn't. Just like I don't believe Hardy is a top opponent, he's not. Not that it's GSP's fault. But this is the first time in probably 3 or 4 fights that he's not fighting a righteous contender.

and i like to think me and you get along just fine its like your my mma lounge brother...i mean me and you arent equal since im better than you but kind of like a little brother who follows the "cool" trends

Ha you wish. My Karma is like 5, *****. My e-**** is clearly bigger than yours. ;)

I'm not going to go over Kos and Alves again. They are top opponents, they are ranked. Regardless of how dumb their gamplans and utilization of their skills were during their fights with St. Pierre.

If I remember correctly Florian wasn't even top 5 when he fought Penn.



but you refer to him as GSC, all the same.



No I wouldn't. Just like I don't believe Hardy is a top opponent, he's not. Not that it's GSP's fault. But this is the first time in probably 3 or 4 fights that he's not fighting a righteous contender.



Ha you wish. My Karma is like 5, *****. My e-**** is clearly bigger than yours. ;)

hahaha that was hilarious..no sarcasm at all...that was hilarious...and ok no need to argue no more if you dont want to...lets just agree that im the ****ing man

and with the gsc thing you got me there

and bj doesnt have any choice in who he fights either hes just so great that he makes his opponents seem like ants

and being ranked high doesnt mean that your deserving of that ranking...randy couture is ranked as a top lightheavy but hes no where near the top any more...hardy is ranked higher than kos and alves and fitch does he deserve to be? rashad and jardine are ranked near the top and they suck same with bisping


and excuse me for having an asian e-****

Hardy is hyped because ppl actually think he has great standup.

and Thiago deserves the shot more than Hardy. He beat Swick(submission) and Koscheck. Hardy beat Swick(decision) and.....

You have to admitt that he at least has better stand up than everyone else in the WW division.

KO power does not = Great stand up. (just clearing that up right now)

Alves sucks at stand up, bullrushing is not great stand up. Swick stand up sucks at 170lbs. GSP's is grossly overrated. Kos stand up sucks, all he has is the overhead right. Anthony Johnson is like a street fighter in there. Jon Fitch has won every fight by decision, by way of wrestling, his stand up aint ****. Matt Hughes has no stand up. Matt Serra probably has better stand up than anyone else, he just lacks size.

Hardy may not have 1-punch kayo power but the man's stand up is really really crisp. His technique is great, his kicks are second to none in the WW division. He just relies on that damn lead left hook too much. And he one-shots way too much too.

And he gets a title shot because every other WW went on a losing streak. Kos should really be the one with the title shot but he fell off with a first round kayo. Fitch is a decision dog, he aint getting a title shot again. Alves has vanished. Swick just got whaaped. Rumble Johnson just lost to Kos. Serra beat no name man, but it's been a 1-1 record since the GSP setback. Matt Hughes got owned by Alves and beat Serra by decision, so he is 1-1. Paul Daley is just as new to UFC as Hardy, and less popular, AND he can't make weight. Mark Kampann got owned by the new guy Paul Daley. Paulo Thiago who?(thats what casual fans will say). Unless they wanna bring in Nick Diaz, no choice but Hardy.

That's why Hardy has the title shot. He's the only one on a winning streak that can put asses in seats at the same time.

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hahaha that was hilarious..no sarcasm at all...that was hilarious...and ok no need to argue no more if you dont want to...lets just agree that im the ****ing man

and with the gsc thing you got me there

and bj doesnt have any choice in who he fights either hes just so great that he makes his opponents seem like ants

and being ranked high doesnt mean that your deserving of that ranking...randy couture is ranked as a top lightheavy but hes no where near the top any more...hardy is ranked higher than kos and alves and fitch does he deserve to be? rashad and jardine are ranked near the top and they suck same with bisping


and excuse me for having an asian e-****

The only reason GSP is p4p best in the UFC is because he hasn't moved around in weight too fight like Silva. Other than that, he's the best fighter in the UFC...

You have to admitt that he at least has better stand up than everyone else in the WW division.

KO power does not = Great stand up. (just clearing that up right now)

Alves sucks at stand up, bullrushing is not great stand up. Swick stand up sucks at 170lbs. GSP's is grossly overrated. Kos stand up sucks, all he has is the overhead right. Anthony Johnson is like a street fighter in there. Jon Fitch has won every fight by decision, by way of wrestling, his stand up aint ****. Matt Hughes has no stand up. Matt Serra probably has better stand up than anyone else, he just lacks size.

Hardy may not have 1-punch kayo power but the man's stand up is really really crisp. His technique is great, his kicks are second to none in the WW division. He just relies on that damn lead left hook too much. And he one-shots way too much too.

And he gets a title shot because every other WW went on a losing streak. Kos should really be the one with the title shot but he fell off with a first round kayo. Fitch is a decision dog, he aint getting a title shot again. Alves has vanished. Swick just got whaaped. Rumble Johnson just lost to Kos. Serra beat no name man, but it's been a 1-1 record since the GSP setback. Matt Hughes got owned by Alves and beat Serra by decision, so he is 1-1. Paul Daley is just as new to UFC as Hardy, and less popular, AND he can't make weight. Mark Kampann got owned by the new guy Paul Daley.

That's why Hardy has the title shot. He's the only won on a winning streak that can put asses in seats at the same time.


serras standup sucks but its hilarious especially when he throws a head kick...most of his opponents arms are longer than his legs

The only reason GSP is p4p best in the UFC is because he hasn't moved around in weight too fight like Silva. Other than that, he's the best fighter in the UFC...

i never said gsc sucks hes clearly one of the best fighters in the world and has retarded athleticism i just think he gets overrated by poeple who act talk like hes godlike when im the only one with godlike skills

serras standup sucks but its hilarious especially when he throws a head kick...most of his opponents arms are longer than his legs

He did pretty damn well against BJ. THAT was a great fight if anyone hasn't seen it. Razor close and uber competitive.

He did pretty damn well against BJ. THAT was a great fight if anyone hasn't seen it. Razor close and uber competitive.

**** yea it was sick..i only saw it once but i remember the fight being close as hell...serra is the man

serras standup sucks but its hilarious especially when he throws a head kick...most of his opponents arms are longer than his legs

It doesn't suck. He's just a midget. So everything he throws looks stupid, otherwise his standup game is really on point. His arms are just stupid-short so he doesn't connect to often, his legs are like you said, so it looks weird.

Give him KenFlo's body and you will see that his standup game is really on point.

It doesn't suck. He's just a midget. So everything he throws looks stupid, otherwise his standup game is really on point. His arms are just stupid-short so he doesn't connect to often, his legs are like you said, so it looks weird.

Give him KenFlo's body and you will see that his standup game is really on point.

i mean he has power but he throws wide punches and doesnt put all of his weight behind them.... mike tyson had trex arm awesome but he threw his entire body behind his power punches and kept them tight

i mean he has power but he throws wide punches and doesnt put all of his weight behind them.... mike tyson had trex arm awesome but he threw his entire body behind his power punches and kept them tight

lol, he's a midget. He's smaller than Urijah Faber and KID (I think). His punches are going to look weird, a person could probably put their hand on his head and avoid every punch he throws at the same time. :lol1:

lol, he's a midget. He's smaller than Urijah Faber and KID (I think). His punches are going to look weird, a person could probably put their hand on his head and avoid every punch he throws at the same time. :lol1:

hahahaha you win the argument...theres no way in hell i can say anything to that

You have to admitt that he at least has better stand up than everyone else in the WW division.

KO power does not = Great stand up. (just clearing that up right now)

Hardy may not have 1-punch kayo power but the man's stand up is really really crisp. His technique is great, his kicks are second to none in the WW division. He just relies on that damn lead left hook too much. And he one-shots way too much too.


I do agree that his technique is good enough to outwork guys in standup exchanges with regards to the pure standup aspect. I also agree thast KO power doesn't mean you have great standup. If anything it's one of those intangible's that some fighters have at their disposal much like a guy who has a great armbar. But I still don't feel he has good standup let alone the best in the division. The way I look at stand up in MMA is different to the way I would look at it in boxing or kickboxing perse.

A pure boxing/kickboxing match between Hardy and GSP is gonna favour Hardy more than GSP, I have no doubts about that. But in an MMA fight it's gonna be to GSP's advantage. The thing with Hardy's standup is that it doesn't lead him anywhere else, it just keeps average fighters he's been fighting at bay because they have no way of being able to take the fight in a different direction. To me it's not what I see as good standup skills, in fact it's a pretty one-dimensional attack and it's at the same pace and rhythm which isn't necessarily a good thing.

Where GSP differs is that his standup opens up other options for him and he can dictate where the fight goes and at what pace it's fought at. In MMA that's the far better standup game to have because it takes care of two things. It makes guys who are predmoinantly strikers think twice about what and when they are going to throw. And, due to his strengths elsewhere it allows him to choose whether or not he wants to keep it standing or he wants to take it to the ground.

Hardy's issues are exactly what you mentioned. His habits. He relies on the left hook too much and when he kicks he leaves his leg out there too long and hasn't got enough leverage on anything to make a guy like GSP feel discouraged about coming in for a takedown. It's these habits which IMO are gonna be his undoing in the fight because as much as fighters say they're changing things up and that they are gonna do something new 90% of the time they get in there and once they take a shot they will immediately revert to what they are comfortable with. Hardy falls into this category and what makes it harder for him is the other 10% of fighters who can adjust and/or impose their strategy/will on an opponent are guys like GSP.