THE TOP TEN!

(1) BERNARD HOPKINS, 46-2-1 (32): Over the years Hopkins has essentially cleaned out the Middleweight division. KO'ed Trinidad, KO'ed De La Hoya, KO'ed Robert Allen, UD over Joppy, UD over Eastman and now he is taking on the young Jermain Taylor. Simply the most consistent man in boxing.

(2) WINKY WRIGHT, 49-3-0 (25): His domination of Tito is what cements this, but it has been a long time coming. His two wins over Mosley thrust him into the spotlight but Winky is another fighter who has been taking care of business for years.

(3) FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR, 33-0-0 (22): Has beaten two other fellow pound for pounder's in Castillo and Corrales and is going to meet Arturo Gatti in the match fight fans wanted to see. But until he steps the competition up again, this is as high as he will climb.

(4) KOSTYA TSZYU, 31-1-0 (25): He has only fought once in the past couple years but what a win it was. How does he respond to blowing Sharmba Mitchell out of the water? Takes on undefeated British phenom Ricky Hatton. Assuming he wins, is Tszyu-Mayweather in our future?

(5) ERIK MORALES, 48-2-0 (34): Ahead of Barrera you ask? Well, yes. Barrera did manage to eake out the close decision, but Morales has the better resume of late all the same. With wins over Pacquiao, Hernandez, and Chavez he has been beating some of the best at Jr. Lightweight. Question is would he beat Barrera in part IV?

(6) MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA, 60-4-0 (42): A warrior if ever there really was one in this sport. Few manage to blend utter heart and talent as well as Barrera, and his two wins over his rival Erik Morale attest to that. Hopefully we will see him in against a quality oppenent now that Fana is out of the way.

(7) DIEGO CORRALES, 40-2-0 (33): His last four opponents are Casamayor twice, Frietas, and Castillo. 'Chico' is facing the top competition and winning, and with the power in his fists we can only guess how high he will climb.

(8) RAFAEL MARQUEZ, 33-3-0 (30): It seems that part of fighting at the slight Bantamweight is that people will sleep on your body of work. With huge wins over Mark 'Too Sharp' Johnson, Tim Austin, and countless other bantams and below, Marquez has stepped out from his elder brother's shadow.

(9) Manny Pacquiao, 39-3-2 (31): Probably a good sign when a slump means that you have razor thin decision losses to some of the best in the sport such as Morales and Marquez. All the same, while the big money is at Jr. Lightweight, Manny seems to be most effective at Featherweight.

(10) ZAB JUDAH, 34-2-0 (25): The universally recognized man at 147 has a plethora of options in front of him. With names like De La Hoya, Mosley and Margarito bouncing around it will be hard for him to do anything but make a superfight in the near future.


THE BEST OF THE REST!

(11) JOSE LUIS CASTILLO: Gave Corrales all that he could handle and did likewise with Floyd Mayweather Jr. Has nothing to be ashamed of in any of these losses and probably raised his stock each time. Just wait until he gets into the mix at 140...

(12) JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ: With Pacquiao now chasing greener pastures, he is now the last man standing at Featherweight and lacks a superfight for his troubles. A deadly counter puncher and a consistent fighter, now he just needs an opponent.

(13) GLEN JOHNSON: 'The Road Warrior' has a huge rematch with Antonio Tarver coming up. But win or lose, he has made a much larger impression on boxing then many would have predicted at this time a couple years ago.

(14) ANTONIO TARVER: Perhaps he should have gotten the decision against Johnson, but he took too many rounds off either way. His chance at redemption draws near.

(15) JOEL CASAMAYOR: Fought both Corrales and Castillo to within an inch of a decision. Has a chance to get back on track against 'Kid Diamond' later this month.

I have Morales at 4, Tszyu at 5, Corrales at 6, Barrera at 7, Judah at 9 and JM Marquez at 10.

An outrage! Pacman is #1! LOL

how in the world did winky jumped to no. 2?

I like the list but now way Rafeal Marquez is ahead of JMM.

I keep saying it buts its a valid point, did you forget about Joe Calzaghe?? your number 1 and 14 fighters both ducked him.

Maybe he'll get a little respect when he kicks Lacy's ass.

1. Floyd
2. Hopkins
3. Winky
4. Tszyu
5. Barrera
6. Morales
7. Toney ( I know no one likes HW's on this list but he has had success from MiddleWeight up to HW thats P4P at it's best)
8. Judah
9. Tarver
10.Johnson ( I have him below Tarver because i saw their fight Johnson did well but did not land land enough to deserve that win.
11. Corrales
12. JLC
13 Marquez
14. Bryd
15. DLH/Tito ( they both need to go back down in weight where they belong)

oh **** i forgot PacMan.

I keep saying it buts its a valid point, did you forget about Joe Calzaghe?? your number 1 and 14 fighters both ducked him.

Maybe he'll get a little respect when he kicks Lacy's ass.

did hop ducked calzaghe?

did hop ducked calzaghe?

I remember that, Hopkins demanded a lot of money to fight Calzaghe and and when they agreed terms Hopkins pulled out of the fight. I think he went on to fight someone **** like
Hakkar for a lot less.

oh **** i forgot PacMan.
yeah i was about to say...

did hop ducked calzaghe?

Hopkins, 37, earned the right to be called the world's No1 middleweight by beating the Puerto Rican Felix Trinidad last year, but he has so far rejected attempts made by Calzaghe's promoter Frank Warren to secure a match against the Welshman.

"We had an agreement for the Hopkins fight to happen," said Warren. "I had discussed terms with Don King, who looks after Hopkins, and I had American TV with Showtime. I would have paid Hopkins £3 million, but suddenly he said he wouldn't take the fight unless he was paid £6m.

"Since he fought Trinidad, he's made nothing worthwhile. Roy Jones is going to fight as a heavyweight, so Joe is his only option. I believe Hopkins had painted himself into a corner and, if he wants to make money and show the world he is as good as he says he is, he must fight Calzaghe.

"Hopkins keeps making excuses, but I still believe the fight will happen. Joe will fight anybody. He is a professional who has to make his living against whoever is available and he ducks nobody. We don't have a contract for Hopkins yet, but believe me it is not for the want of trying."

Remember the figures quoted are £'s not $'s!! thats a hell of a lot of money considering how much money Hopkins was earning at the time, i cant believe he wanted $11,031,600 at today currency rate. Asking for a retirement fund is ducking someone IMO.

I have Morales at 4, Tszyu at 5, Corrales at 6, Barrera at 7, Judah at 9 and JM Marquez at 10.


off topic:

do you think your boys are ready for my Miami Heat??
i dont think ya can handle the leagues best player (Wade) nor the mopst dominating player (Shaq)

THE TOP TEN!

(1) BERNARD HOPKINS, 46-2-1 (32): Over the years Hopkins has essentially cleaned out the Middleweight division. KO'ed Trinidad, KO'ed De La Hoya, KO'ed Robert Allen, UD over Joppy, UD over Eastman and now he is taking on the young Jermain Taylor. Simply the most consistent man in boxing.

(2) WINKY WRIGHT, 49-3-0 (25): His domination of Tito is what cements this, but it has been a long time coming. His two wins over Mosley thrust him into the spotlight but Winky is another fighter who has been taking care of business for years.

(3) FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR, 33-0-0 (22): Has beaten two other fellow pound for pounder's in Castillo and Corrales and is going to meet Arturo Gatti in the match fight fans wanted to see. But until he steps the competition up again, this is as high as he will climb.

(4) KOSTYA TSZYU, 31-1-0 (25): He has only fought once in the past couple years but what a win it was. How does he respond to blowing Sharmba Mitchell out of the water? Takes on undefeated British phenom Ricky Hatton. Assuming he wins, is Tszyu-Mayweather in our future?

(5) ERIK MORALES, 48-2-0 (34): Ahead of Barrera you ask? Well, yes. Barrera did manage to eake out the close decision, but Morales has the better resume of late all the same. With wins over Pacquiao, Hernandez, and Chavez he has been beating some of the best at Jr. Lightweight. Question is would he beat Barrera in part IV?

(6) MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA, 60-4-0 (42): A warrior if ever there really was one in this sport. Few manage to blend utter heart and talent as well as Barrera, and his two wins over his rival Erik Morale attest to that. Hopefully we will see him in against a quality oppenent now that Fana is out of the way.

(7) DIEGO CORRALES, 40-2-0 (33): His last four opponents are Casamayor twice, Frietas, and Castillo. 'Chico' is facing the top competition and winning, and with the power in his fists we can only guess how high he will climb.

(8) RAFAEL MARQUEZ, 33-3-0 (30): It seems that part of fighting at the slight Bantamweight is that people will sleep on your body of work. With huge wins over Mark 'Too Sharp' Johnson, Tim Austin, and countless other bantams and below, Marquez has stepped out from his elder brother's shadow.

(9) Manny Pacquiao, 39-3-2 (31): Probably a good sign when a slump means that you have razor thin decision losses to some of the best in the sport such as Morales and Marquez. All the same, while the big money is at Jr. Lightweight, Manny seems to be most effective at Featherweight.

(10) ZAB JUDAH, 34-2-0 (25): The universally recognized man at 147 has a plethora of options in front of him. With names like De La Hoya, Mosley and Margarito bouncing around it will be hard for him to do anything but make a superfight in the near future.


THE BEST OF THE REST!

(11) JOSE LUIS CASTILLO: Gave Corrales all that he could handle and did likewise with Floyd Mayweather Jr. Has nothing to be ashamed of in any of these losses and probably raised his stock each time. Just wait until he gets into the mix at 140...

(12) JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ: With Pacquiao now chasing greener pastures, he is now the last man standing at Featherweight and lacks a superfight for his troubles. A deadly counter puncher and a consistent fighter, now he just needs an opponent.

(13) GLEN JOHNSON: 'The Road Warrior' has a huge rematch with Antonio Tarver coming up. But win or lose, he has made a much larger impression on boxing then many would have predicted at this time a couple years ago.

(14) ANTONIO TARVER: Perhaps he should have gotten the decision against Johnson, but he took too many rounds off either way. His chance at redemption draws near.

(15) JOEL CASAMAYOR: Fought both Corrales and Castillo to within an inch of a decision. Has a chance to get back on track against 'Kid Diamond' later this month.
This is a pretty decent list. I put reorder it somewhat.
4. Judah
5. Corrales
6. Barrera
7. Morales
8. Pacman
9. Marquez
Honorable mention my homeland citizen G. Johnson
and Calzaghe.. Thats mine.

off topic:

do you think your boys are ready for my Miami Heat??
i dont think ya can handle the leagues best player (Wade) nor the mopst dominating player (Shaq)


Well we handled Shaq and Kobe last year so yeah I think we are going to school Miami too.

1. Reggie Strickland
2. Mike Ackly
3. Adrian Stone
4. Mendogan 3K Singsurat
5. Troy Rawlings
6. Josh Cobb
7. Marcus Beyer
8. Mzonke Fana
9. Larry "the laser" Marks
10. John Ruiz
11. Lance "goofy" Whittaker
12. Arturo Gatti
13. Hector Macho Camacho Jr
14. Mickey Rourke
15. Tony Danza

Just try and make a better list...you cant because I know everything.

Hey man you forgot Mike Tyson.

bernard hopkins is not no 1, he stinks who has he beaten??

2 Welterweights for crying out loud

Hagler would have eaten him for breakfast

Eastman was a really underrated fighter whom was beaten by Hopkins. Tito was a middleweight also, I mean- ask David Reid and William Joppy if they thought Trinidad belonged at 160. And speaking of Joppy, he beat him also. The same goes for Robert Allen who Hopkins beat three times. He has beaten Glen Johnson who is a light heavyweight these days. I mean, who at middleweight has he NOT beaten? People wanted to see him in against Taylor and now he is fighting Taylor. He has ruled the division for ELEVEN years! To say that he has not beaten good middleweights is just wrong.

How come the "Mates" are not screaming "Where is Calzaghe??!!!" LOL
Also, I don't think Wright deserves to be at #2.
He has only beatten a not so good Moseley and his style was no match for Trinidad. That does not mean he is P4P #2 boxer.
Just because Tito had a problem with a Southpaw, does not mean Wright is there yet. Well, let me correct myself before I get jumped at.. he probably is there, but he yet needs to prove it.

Spots 1 through 3 are reserved between Hopkins, Mayweather, and Tszyu (in no particular order)

Plus Wright needs to fight a shot Vargas and avange one of his losses!

Winky won that fight in my opinion- and apparently his opinion too since he is now refusing to fight El Feroz again now that Vargas is down and out and he is finally up on top. He says Winky refused to give him a rematch after what was essentially a gift decision and so he is not going to give Vargas a fight. Winky's last three wins are Mosley, Mosley, and Tito- that is a pretty good list. There are few on the list who boast three wins over equal quality opponents in their last three bouts, only Corrales, Morales, and maybe another fighter or two... But that's it.

Winky won that fight in my opinion- and apparently his opinion too since he is now refusing to fight El Feroz again now that Vargas is down and out and he is finally up on top. He says Winky refused to give him a rematch after what was essentially a gift decision and so he is not going to give Vargas a fight. Winky's last three wins are Mosley, Mosley, and Tito- that is a pretty good list. There are few on the list who boast three wins over equal quality opponents in their last three bouts, only Corrales, Morales, and maybe another fighter or two... But that's it.My point exactly "Winky's last three wins are Mosley, Mosley, and Tito- that is a pretty good list." No it's not.. not good enough to be P4P #2.

Tszyu has wis over:
Sharmba Mitchell x2 - TKO
Jesse James Leija - TKO
Zab Judah - TKO
Julio Cesar Chavez - TKO
Oktay Urkal
etc...

Mayweather:
DeMarcus Corley
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales - TKO
etc..

No way does "Winky's last three wins are Mosley, Mosley, and Tito" put him above.. Tszyu is by far more dominant in his division.

My list
#1 - Hopkins
#2 - Tszyu
#3 - Mayweather
#4 - Morales
and maybe Wright as #5, or even 6 if Barrera as #5

Kostya has one fight in two years. On the Mayweather list the only recent one is Corley. Mosley was a Top Ten P4P guy when Winky beat him (the first time). And he moved up in weight to dominate the heavy fisted Tito. I think P4P is more about, what have you done for me lately. And lately Winky has done some of the most in boxing.

Kostya has one fight in two years. On the Mayweather list the only recent one is Corley. Mosley was a Top Ten P4P guy when Winky beat him (the first time). And he moved up in weight to dominate the heavy fisted Tito. I think P4P is more about, what have you done for me lately. And lately Winky has done some of the most in boxing.
This is where you and I disagree. For me it's not what you have done lately, but what have you done throughout your career.

Hopkins unbeaten for 10+ years.. that's huge!

Tszyu has destroyed and dominated every fighter, but Hatton and Mayweather, in his division.. soon it will be down to only Mayweather...



Not just last 2-3 good fights..

My point exactly "Winky's last three wins are Mosley, Mosley, and Tito- that is a pretty good list." No it's not.. not good enough to be P4P #2.

Tszyu has wis over:
Sharmba Mitchell x2 - TKO
Jesse James Leija - TKO
Zab Judah - TKO
Julio Cesar Chavez - TKO
Oktay Urkal
etc...

Mayweather:
DeMarcus Corley
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales - TKO
etc..

No way does "Winky's last three wins are Mosley, Mosley, and Tito" put him above.. Tszyu is by far more dominant in his division.

My list
#1 - Hopkins
#2 - Tszyu
#3 - Mayweather
#4 - Morales
and maybe Wright as #5, or even 6 if Barrera as #5

I have to disagree about winky. Beating SSM and Tito says alot these are two of the best fighters of our time. True they have been outboxed in a few fights, but these two are both better than
Shamba,a very old and past his prime JCC, Leija, and Urkal. Don't get me wrong Tszyu is a great fighter, and i can see how you can put him above Wright, but i disagree that his comp was better than wrights. SSM and Tito are greaters, they where just exposed by a great boxer.