Money Mayweather just confirmed today that he doesn't lift weights. If you listen to his NYC presser he said he does bodyweight stuff. Makes him perform better, react better. "All natural strength" is what he said.

Weights is 1980s old school stuff. The most advanced athletes use bodyweight only.

Weights cause injuries and wreck your joints.

The most advanced athletes use bodyweight only.

Tell that to Georges St. Pierre, Usain Bolt, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Pac, Hopkins, Tyson, pretty much every NFL Player etc.

Just because he is successful using bodyweight exercises doesn't mean everyone will be.

Plus Mayweather never beat anyone because of a "strength" advantage so really what he's saying means close to nothing

Money Mayweather just confirmed today that he doesn't lift weights. If you listen to his NYC presser he said he does bodyweight stuff. Makes him perform better, react better. "All natural strength" is what he said.

Weights is 1980s old school stuff. The most advanced athletes use bodyweight only.

Weights cause injuries and wreck your joints.

Man, it seems like this argument just never goes away. I wont get back into this like before. Wasted all my energy on it last time. Lol.

But I will say that weights and body weight exercises are both great tools if used correctly. The muscle and fitness magazines wont teach you how to lift right, and really will probably mess up your body. Did it to many back in the day. But there are other ways to use weights. Weights make up or are incorporated into maybe 30% of my workout. The rest is endurance, body weight conditioning, plyos, heavy bag and sparring. I know longer have joint problems.

One of the great uses of weights is for rehab, if you can't lift your body weight. Right now I have a seperated rib and I can't even do a crunch. But I can get on the girly fitness crunch machine in my gym and use much less weight to get blood flowing to that area and speed up healing.

Plus don't forget that some bodyweight exercises can be harder on the body than weights. I messed up my shoulder once doing hand stand shoulder press with a wall. Much safer to do shoulder press with less than my body weight on a bar bell.

Pac man has used weights, bernard hopkins, mike tyson and even older power punching legend ernie shavers. Try to tell me these guys are not advanced boxers. So don't be to quick to dismiss them. Just one more tool to make an athlete.

Tell that to Georges St. Pierre, Usain Bolt, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Pac, Hopkins, Tyson, pretty much every NFL Player etc.

Just because he is successful using bodyweight exercises doesn't mean everyone will be.

Plus Mayweather never beat anyone because of a "strength" advantage so really what he's saying means close to nothing

you mean the guy that pretends to stand up for the first 30 seconds, takes opponent down, and lay and prays until the bell rings for 5 rounds?

you mean the guy that pretends to stand up for the first 30 seconds, takes opponent down, and lay and prays until the bell rings for 5 rounds?

I didn't know you were required to stand-up in MMA. Hmmm and if GSP is a LnP fighter, what does that make Jon Fitch, Sean Sherk, Mike Pierce, Dan Severn.

LOL you don't know what you are talking about.



Don't I know you from somewhere? MMAforum.com perhaps? I remember the name and a Pac avatar over there....

Money Mayweather just confirmed today that he doesn't lift weights. If you listen to his NYC presser he said he does bodyweight stuff. Makes him perform better, react better. "All natural strength" is what he said.

Weights is 1980s old school stuff. The most advanced athletes use bodyweight only.

Weights cause injuries and wreck your joints.

p90x says you are incorrect sir

Ground and Pound? GTFO Hatton himself said he couldn't believe how strong May was. What did Hatton do before the fight, POUND the weights, thousands of pounds, and he got knocked out!

Ground and Pound? GTFO Hatton himself said he couldn't believe how strong May was. What did Hatton do before the fight, POUND the weights, thousands of pounds, and he got knocked out!

Mayweather still didn't win that fight because of superior strength.

The only lifting I saw Ricky doing was leg presses, Leg Presses are useless to a fighter. Try again, sir.

useless exercises= useless strength.

Drew Brees only uses bodyweight exercises, it's called the TRX

search it on youtube

Brandon Vera also uses the TRX bodyweight routine

Drew Brees only uses bodyweight exercises, it's called the TRX

search it on youtube

Brandon Vera also uses the TRX bodyweight routine

Pretty much all QB's use BW exercises or suspension trainers. They have no real necessity for weight training.

Brandon Vera sucks, so what he uses is irrelevant. :p

Just kidding but Vera is sponsored by TRX but he does use weights or at least uses some traditional strongman training methods.

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Ground and Pound? GTFO Hatton himself said he couldn't believe how strong May was. What did Hatton do before the fight, POUND the weights, thousands of pounds, and he got knocked out!
Great, don't lift weights then, because then you'll look, walk and fight like Mayweather. While the rest of us will look like Hatton because we do lift weights... You're the man.

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TS Fail.

Tell that to Georges St. Pierre, Usain Bolt, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Pac, Hopkins, Tyson, pretty much every NFL Player etc.

Just because he is successful using bodyweight exercises doesn't mean everyone will be.

Plus Mayweather never beat anyone because of a "strength" advantage so really what he's saying means close to nothing

pac doesn't lift weights, prime tyson didn't lift weights

never seen hopkins lift weights neither, unless you include those resistance bands he uses for shadowboxing as weights

Great, don't lift weights then, because then you'll look, walk and fight like Mayweather. While the rest of us will look like Hatton because we do lift weights... You're the man.

haha.

I use weights but only for a small portion of my workout.

there are benefits to using body weight and using heavy weights...but the best remedy is a balance between...have you ever met a body builder who couldn't do 10 pull ups? i know a lot of guys who can do 50 push ups and can't bench 3/4 their weight under the flat bench...it's just how it is...but a balance would always be more beneficial in my eyes...

and keep in mind that mayweather has genetics on his side...floyd sr "looks" to be in exceptional physical shape...i don't think he's doing 100 dips every morning...

pac doesn't lift weights, prime tyson didn't lift weights

never seen hopkins lift weights neither, unless you include those resistance bands he uses for shadowboxing as weights

I have seen prime tyson lift weights (was behind neck military pressing an ass ton) and read up on pac mans training schedule with freddie roach which included some weights and hopkins did a lot of lifting to jump up in weight and fight tarver and he said it improved his speed and power and made him feel younger. Says he wish he would have started long ago.

Leg presses aren't useless by any means, whole body strength is useful to a fighter, in fact legs, back, core and shoulder are all used by powerful punchers, and are far more useful than bench pressing for punching.

whole body strength ftw.

well it depends on what works. Each guy have different body so it very hard to say which is better.

But you need everything to cover some of the gaps or depends on how you want you body to perform. Stamina based or strength based....etc

well it depends on what works. Each guy have different body so it very hard to say which is better.

But you need everything to cover some of the gaps or depends on how you want you body to perform. Stamina based or strength based....etc

when it comes to punching, if any part of the kinetic chain is weak it won't matter how powerful your shoulders or core are, you will lose power from your punch.

David Haye openly does weights, he also hits like a train. He has always been heavy handed but he doesn't leave it at that he does heavy deadlifts and presses.

when it comes to punching, if any part of the kinetic chain is weak it won't matter how powerful your shoulders or core are, you will lose power from your punch.

David Haye openly does weights, he also hits like a train. He has always been heavy handed but he doesn't leave it at that he does heavy deadlifts and presses.


There are other martial arts that hit one hard stuff and dont do weights and could break a rock with there fist.

It all depends on what works for a person.

Also punch strength is not only thing that matter during the fight there are alot of complex stuff invovle

the only thing that's for sure is the correct use of the parts of the body...simply turning or planting your feet can give you more power in your punches...learning the form is the most important thing...i know people who can lift a car but have no hands and can be dropped with ease because they don't utilize their body and momentum correctly...

There are other martial arts that hit one hard stuff and dont do weights and could break a rock with there fist.
It is a stunt. It does not often carry over into actual fighting

Also punch strength is not only thing that matter during the fight there are alot of complex stuff invovle

Now this I agree with. but we are talking about weights in this thread. Skills and fitness however should not interfere with strength training.

also, I would request that you learn to type

i know people who can lift a car but have no hands

Do you hang around with powerlifting amputees? lol.

In all seriousness though in two guys of equal weight and technique the one with the greatest whole body strength will hit harder.

technique+weights > technique

Leg presses aren't useless by any means, whole body strength is useful to a fighter, in fact legs, back, core and shoulder are all used by powerful punchers, and are far more useful than bench pressing for punching.

whole body strength ftw.

Leg Presses < Squats.

Not to mention if you ever watched 24/7 mayweather/hatton, you can clearly see that Ricky doesn't even use full ROM. He did ***** 1/4 leg presses.

Leg Presses < Squats.

if you mean that squats are better then yeah I agree lol

It is a stunt. It does not often carry over into actual fighting



Now this I agree with. but we are talking about weights in this thread. Skills and fitness however should not interfere with strength training.

also, I would request that you learn to type

man too lazy too clean my typing but I will try.

As for the stunt part it really hard to tell. There are alot of Kung Fu as well as Muay Thai that dont use weights but able to have hard rock bones. Also some of these guy who break concrete and wood have speical competition for them. Some looked pretty buffed but there are others who are pretty thin.

Bruce lee lifted weights.... and **** im pretty sure it produced results lol

I beleive you because most of the big WW's are huge compared to Mayweather .He walks around 150 152 and now he said he's walking around 147 in an interview for the Mosley fight .While Cotto supposidley walks around 170 , Clottey 180 .Not sure about Mosley Margarito etc but they're huge compared to Mayweather .Mayweather's quoted before there's fighters stronger than him but no fighter is smarter than him plus when he got asked about the Mosley fight he says he's coming in on top condition .There's a video when Mayweather finishes training and it's like 6633 punches plus he runs 5 to 8 mile a day for boxing.
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check out what Overeem lifts

man too lazy too clean my typing but I will try.

As for the stunt part it really hard to tell. There are alot of Kung Fu as well as Muay Thai that dont use weights but able to have hard rock bones. Also some of these guy who break concrete and wood have speical competition for them. Some looked pretty buffed but there are others who are pretty thin.

impact (as in kicking a bag) is what produces their hard bones not bodyweight exercises, although they can acheive this its just alot slower

Bruce lee lifted weights.... and **** im pretty sure it produced results lol
I'm not sure what your point is here but what results are you talkin about? Cos Bruce never fought anyone except in some black and white recordings of ****ty wing chun on a rooftop

Bruce lee lifted weights.... and **** im pretty sure it produced results lol

And how quick was he to those who go "omg do it if you wanna slooowww."

Bruce Lee regularly competed in MA tournaments, sparred with various people, and JKD was a precursor to MMA.

man too lazy too clean my typing but I will try.

As for the stunt part it really hard to tell. There are alot of Kung Fu as well as Muay Thai that dont use weights but able to have hard rock bones. Also some of these guy who break concrete and wood have speical competition for them. Some looked pretty buffed but there are others who are pretty thin.

Because they condition their bones which heal/repair themselves to be even stronger as well as deadening the nerves. You don't lift weights to get hard bones.

Concrete and Wood is more about focus and accuracy then it is strength.

If Floyd doesn't like using weights fine, whats the problem? Obviously its working for him.

When I am at the boxing gym I stop using them too as I feel they make you too tight in the shoulder area and thus slows you down.

Still, its a trade off because if I am at the gym for several months and don't touch weights at all and then try I can only lift about 60% of what i could before.

The best thing to do for overall fitness, is some weights, some body resistance, some cardio but Floyd is a boxer and has a specific fitness goal and needs to do what his body responds best to for the results he wants just like bodybuilders aren't hitting the bag and running 5 miles a day to get ready for competitions.

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check out what Overeem lifts

That's how real men train. Deads and Farmers Walks

you mean the guy that pretends to stand up for the first 30 seconds, takes opponent down, and lay and prays until the bell rings for 5 rounds?

congrats you just won yourself the idiot of the day award :Flush:

Money Mayweather just confirmed today that he doesn't lift weights. If you listen to his NYC presser he said he does bodyweight stuff. Makes him perform better, react better. "All natural strength" is what he said.

Weights is 1980s old school stuff. The most advanced athletes use bodyweight only.

Weights cause injuries and wreck your joints.

Rubbish, i seen clips on youtube of money lifting. might have even been on one of the 24/7 as well but i dont think so.

Bruce Lee regularly competed in MA tournaments, sparred with various people, and JKD was a precursor to MMA.

video evidence please?
Bruce Lee was not a fighter. He trained and did not compete. First and foremost he was an actor. I'm not debating he had some skills, but he wasn't nearly as good as people think.

and as for weights making you slow? bull-****. This is a common and wrong view found in boxing which is based purely on arrogance.

It will only make you feel slow if you do weights too close to boxing ie. maybe on the same day. that doesnt mean its slowing you down it means you need more recovery time.

He regularely competed, I know for a fact he did Karate tournaments. I have to go to school I'll look up so more stuff on this later.

He regularely competed, I know for a fact he did Karate tournaments. I have to go to school I'll look up so more stuff on this later.

Although I still doubt it without evidence, you can't really call karate tournaments fighting. they are more often than not semi contact point fighting. This would serve only to furthe prove that bruce was not a fighter

bruce lee had a few boxing fights too..I had his book..bumms coming out of no where and trying to invent some sh** about bruce lee.

bruce was a real fighter he competed in full contact bouts..they even fought with knives on the roofs of hong kong.

so stfu and stop commenting about **** u dont know.

bruce lee had a few boxing fights too..I had his book..bumms coming out of no where and trying to invent some sh** about bruce lee.

bruce was a real fighter he competed in full contact bouts..they even fought with knives on the roofs of hong kong.

so stfu and stop commenting about **** u dont know.

STFU or supply video evidence of this ****. You believe too many stories

STFU or supply video evidence of this ****. You believe too many stories

Go and you tube it you **** breath,do i look like ur video provider or what?

Mr I know everything comes on here and talks sh** about the legend..you got any proof you could provide us??

Bruce lee was the real deal..he had to fight the chinese in california so he could remain his gym..they didnt like the idea of him teaching the westerners.

He use to box too..he was the real deal..he invented jet kun do because he wasnt happy how he performed in some of his street fights.

Go and you tube it you **** breath,do i look like ur video provider or what?

Mr I know everything comes on here and talks sh** about the legend..you got any proof you could provide us??

Bruce lee was the real deal..he had to fight the chinese in california so he could remain his gym..they didnt like the idea of him teaching the westerners.

He use to box too..he was the real deal..he invented jet kun do because he wasnt happy how he performed in some of his street fights.

repeatedly saying someone was 'the real deal' doesn't make them so. I have already searched youtube and nothing except films and a black and white grainy wing chun fight on a rooftop, which may have been taken down.

I know that Bruce Lee trained in different disciplines including boxing and wrestling but there is no evidence to suggest he competed other than you saying so.

I'll admit I'm wrong if you can find evidence, simple as that. otherwise STFU you just perpetuate the myth that he was the greatest fighter ever.

I'll admit I'm wrong if you can find evidence, simple as that. otherwise STFU you just perpetuate the myth that he was the greatest fighter ever.

Are you telling me that if there is no evidence of something, you don't believe it? I consider that faithless heresy. You must remember that according to science, if enough people believe in it, it wil be true, even if only in idea.

Anyway...

All this Bruce Lee talk is getting ridiculous.

There are only 2 things we know about Bruce Lee.

1. Considering what was written about him, he was quite the fellow who trained what worked for him and skipped what didn't, even though we have little photo or video proof.

and more importantly, more closely related to this thread.

2. Bruce Lee would destroy Mayweather, because not only did Bruce Lee use weights, and fight before money was even invented, but everyone must respect the finger jab.

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Jesus, this subject has been done to death!

If you wanna lift while boxing make sure you squat, deadlift and powerclean. Shoulder press and Bench optional.

Jesus, this subject has been done to death!

If you wanna lift while boxing make sure you squat, deadlift and powerclean. Shoulder press and Bench optional.

yeah do this...