UFC ain't shit huh? [Archive]

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 08:11 AM

Spartacus Sully

02-25-2010, 08:29 AM

umm im confused on this in that the ufc and dana white dosnt release any of its actual ppv numbers to any one other then employees that are under contract as being allowed to know the actual ppv numbers. so where did these numbers come from and how bias are they? cause it seems like its just some guy that works at yahoo who makes them up.

Clegg

02-25-2010, 08:33 AM

kaps

02-25-2010, 09:02 AM

Yeah, this is going too keep the trolls out....[/SARCASM]

- v e t -

02-25-2010, 09:06 AM

thats speculation.... dana white doesnt release figures... and even if on occasion he did, how reliable are they???

there's no neutral 3rd party keeping statistics

kaps

02-25-2010, 09:17 AM

Wrestlemania 25 did a lot more buys than that. Makes me wonder how reliable their other figures are if they're using one that is clearly wrong.

960,000 Buys for Wrestlemania 25....

Forza

02-25-2010, 11:56 AM

lol @ ufc fanboys fudging the #s to make their sport look better. That's a new low.

rskumm21

02-25-2010, 12:05 PM

Then how come their best fighters barely make a mil or less per fight? Elite fighters wouldn't stand for that ****.

kaps

02-25-2010, 12:06 PM

lol @ ufc fanboys fudging the #s to make their sport look better. That's a new low.

Quick question. Don't want an argument. Is the only reason you click a sub forum titled Mixed Martial Arts Discussion to talk ****?

rskumm21

02-25-2010, 12:09 PM

Quick question. Don't want an argument. Is the only reason you click a sub forum titled Mixed Martial Arts Discussion to talk ****?

Dude, this is boxing scene. The reason anybody clicks on any forum is to talk ****.

Capt.Underpants

02-25-2010, 12:11 PM

You remember what happened when Dana White went head to head with Boxing? UFC lost horribly! So now after all the trash talking they did about boxing Dana wants the two to coexist, he even stays the fuk outta the way when there is a boxing PPV now.

mikeyh1015

02-25-2010, 12:16 PM

LOL @ those PPV #'s what a lieing sack of sh1t. F@ck MMGAY and all you UFC ****. None of those fights broke the 500,000 PPV mark . Google it B1TCH!!!!

Capt.Underpants

02-25-2010, 12:21 PM

LOL @ those PPV #'s what a lieing sack of sh1t. F@ck MMGAY and all you UFC ****. None of those fights broke the 500,000 PPV mark . Google it B1TCH!!!!

:hail: damn you gave it to them raw! Butt ass naked!

Pecs

02-25-2010, 12:49 PM

LOL @ those PPV #'s what a lieing sack of sh1t. F@ck MMGAY and all you UFC ****. None of those fights broke the 500,000 PPV mark . Google it B1TCH!!!!

you should google it yourself before opening your mouth.

Why is it so hard to believe the numbers?? Ok, I know they might not be 100% accurate, but UFC is CLEARLY more popular right now as compared to boxing. I watch both sports but it is the turth.

kaps

02-25-2010, 12:53 PM

you should google it yourself before opening your mouth.

Why is it so hard to believe the numbers?? Ok, I know they might not be 100% accurate, but UFC is CLEARLY more popular right now as compared to boxing. I watch both sports but it is the turth.

MMA is more popular right now but Boxing isn't going anywhere. I did notice that only fights with Pac or Mayweather made the list though. 1 Million buys 2 times a year is as good as 500,000 buys 10 times a year I guess...

Forza

02-25-2010, 01:15 PM

Quick question. Don't want an argument. Is the only reason you click a sub forum titled Mixed Martial Arts Discussion to talk ****?

Nope there are actually a few MMA fighters I enjoy watching. I just can;t stand when people compare MMA to boxing.

kaps

02-25-2010, 01:18 PM

Nope there are actually a few MMA fighters I enjoy watching. I just can;t stand when people compare MMA to boxing.

But you're the only one doing that...

snakey112

02-25-2010, 01:45 PM

Then how come their best fighters barely make a mil or less per fight? Elite fighters wouldn't stand for that ****.

because the UFC has a monopoly on the market and can pretty much pay them whatever they want, some fighters got pissed off and left, e.g. dan henderson

Mickey Gomez

02-25-2010, 02:25 PM

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 02:28 PM

I wasn't trying to compare sports. I love em both but their's absolutely no reason discredit or bash either one of them. Let's see one of you dumb motherphuckers get into a cage and let's see how 'gay' it really is. I would put any amount of money you leave the cage beat down with cuts and your blood everywhere if no worse carried out on a stretcher. Stupid ass hardasses think their so cool talking **** over the internet about a sport they don't even watch so why waste your time talking about it? Makes no sense and shows how some people need lives.

I wasn't comparing sports like I said because I love both of them equally, I actually have a life and wouldn't be wasting my time posting on this site if I thought MMA was better. I don't know how accurate the numbers are but the only difference from the real numbers is these numbers could be higher which makes it look worse for floyd. My main point is now what are Floyd and every other idiot that wants to bash MMA got to say now that the UFC appears to doing better then boxing? Just more popular. Boxing will never die but it's a joke and fn stupid and it's absolutely denial to say the UFC isn't more popular then boxing. We'll find out if it's a fad in the long run but their's PROOF it's more popular. Go to a random city or high school and ask teens or young adults. I would bet ANY money they would know a Josh Koschek, Anthony Johnson, Chuck Liddell, Anderson Silva, BJ Penn & GSP more so then knowing Amir Khan, Paul Williams. Just face it, MMA is more popular mainstream. All anybody knows now-a-days is Floyd & Pacquiao, maybe Roy Jones. Boxing just needs to fix it's problems and do more to bring it back to height. It's definitely getting alot better though.

Forza

02-25-2010, 02:30 PM

i would rather step into the cage against fedor than the ring against a prime tyson.

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 02:30 PM

LOL @ those PPV #'s what a lieing sack of sh1t. F@ck MMGAY and all you UFC ****. None of those fights broke the 500,000 PPV mark . Google it B1TCH!!!!

You gray K'd me? Are you freaking serious? Their not my numbers, yahoo is a credible source. Your ****ing pathetic. Glad nobodys allowed to share **** with opinions anymore without being K'd. grow the **** up.

Clegg

02-25-2010, 02:30 PM

I wasn't trying to compare sports. I love em both but their's absolutely no reason discredit or bash either one of them.

Sure. If you started this thread expecting anything other than a boxing vs MMA flame war then you'd have to be pretty naive.

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 02:33 PM

Sure. If you started this thread expecting anything other than a boxing vs MMA flame war then you'd have to be pretty naive.

Well some people actually have lives and don't like spending time in flame wars arguing with immature 3 year olds. I was just using these numbers I SAW(didn't come up with) on a usually reliable source(yahoo) and thought it was good for MMA because Floyd Mayweather is always talking **** about MMA and how it isn't nothing compared to boxing. While it doesn't have the great history atleast not yet, it's definitely more popular in the US.

Zarco

02-25-2010, 02:34 PM

I remember when Richard Shafer offered to pay a top 3 accounting firm for an audit of UFC's PPV numbers since the UFC is a private promotional company and can release any figures they like as oppossed to a publicly traded company such as HBO. The UFC declined the invitation. As long as Zuffa is a private company, we will never really know how accurate the pay-per view numbers for UFC are.

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 02:34 PM

God damn, some people like to discuss ****. You don't have to get into flame wars. BUt it seems like that's all this site is at times. Fn stupid bull****.

kaps

02-25-2010, 02:35 PM

Well some people actually have lives and don't like spending time in flame wars arguing with immature 3 year olds. I was just using these numbers I SAW(didn't come up with) on a usually reliable source(yahoo) and thought it was good for MMA because Floyd Mayweather is always talking **** about MMA and how it isn't nothing compared to boxing. While it doesn't have the great history atleast not yet, it's definitely more popular in the US.

It did seem like an attack on boxing to me too. I thought, ****, here we go again....

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 02:39 PM

It did seem like an attack on boxing to me too. I thought, ****, here we go again....

It never even said anything negative about boxing.

letsgobrady

02-25-2010, 02:42 PM

kaps

02-25-2010, 02:42 PM

It never even said anything negative about boxing.

Not directly, just was lead too believe that by thread title...

kaps

02-25-2010, 02:44 PM

you buggin,liddel,silva bj,brock and st pierre are the only fighters that are known random people are not going to know who the hell josh koscheck or anthony johnson is

More people know Kos from the tv show. He's right, your average person isn't going to know who Amir Khan or Paul Williams are...

letsgobrady

02-25-2010, 02:46 PM

whats crazy to me is that the person that brings the most money or is the most watched in mma is a person that was famous from wwe and has only had about 4 fights

letsgobrady

02-25-2010, 02:49 PM

More people know Kos from the tv show. He's right, your average person isn't going to know who Amir Khan or Paul Williams are...

i know more people that know paul williams than josh koscheck and yes koscheck was in the ultimate fighter but that was the 1st season.i don't know any one that knows amir khan or anthony johnson and thats not a good comparison being that amir fights in europe

Forza

02-25-2010, 02:52 PM

whats crazy to me is that the person that brings the most money or is the most watched in mma is a person that was famous from wwe and has only had about 4 fights

It's sad. Even though brock is a great wrestler, no WWE loser is gonna step foot in a boxing ring and make anyone notice.

kaps

02-25-2010, 03:02 PM

i know more people that know paul williams than josh koscheck and yes koscheck was in the ultimate fighter but that was the 1st season.i don't know any one that knows amir khan or anthony johnson and thats not a good comparison being that amir fights in europe

In your group of friends yeah, makes since, because you're boxing fans. I'm talking about the average Joe nobody on the street. MMA has hardcore fans that have been around for years and also has mainstream appeal that covers 90% of the "fans" you see on the streets wearing there tapout shirts and bull****ting about **** Chestner. Boxing almost only has hardcore fans, which is why the average Joe usually only buys big name fights. UFC sells almost as much of their brand as they do off their fighters...

Living Legend

02-25-2010, 03:07 PM

link (http://www.mmanews.com/news/87550)

Top 10 PPV buy rates, 2009

1. UFC 100: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir, July 11, 1.6 million

2. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto, Nov. 14, 1.25 million

3. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, Sept. 19, 1.05 millon

4. UFC 94: Georges St. Pierre vs. B.J. Penn, Jan. 31, 920,000 buys

5. UFC 101: Penn vs. Kenny Florian/Anderson Silva vs. Forrest Griffin, Aug. 8, 850,000

6. Boxing: Pacquiao vs. Ricky Hatton, May 2, 825,000

7t. UFC 107: Penn vs. Diego Sanchez, Dec. 12, 650,000

7t. UFC 97: Silva vs. Thales Leites/Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio Rua, April 18, 650,000

9. UFC 98: Lyoto Machida vs. Rashad Evans/Matt Hughes vs. Matt Serra, May 23, 635,000

10. Wrestling: WWE WrestleMania 25, April 5, 582,000 buys

So I wonder what Floyd's gotta say to this and all the other retards that hate on MMA.

I'm pretty sure you numbers are wrong, but the UFC is a promotion and not a sport...Dip Sh*t.... There are many things that have to come together to make a boxing match... Where as the UFC is like a Roman Gladiator slave camp, if you want to eat, you fight who we want you to fight and you let win who we want to win.... That sh*t is pure hype for the racist, fat f*cks... *** ass ground fighting, Ground fighting is to be used in a death match, not sport... There is not one Pro Westler that would last one round with the Heavyweight champ, There are lights out prospects in boxing that would get murdered by the champ in there respective weight classes if they challegend for the title within a year of going pro... Take your ass to S****G with the rest of the lay in pray, break his arm, twist his knee lames...

kaps

02-25-2010, 03:16 PM

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 03:25 PM

I'm pretty sure you numbers are wrong, but the UFC is a promotion and not a sport...Dip Sh*t.... There are many things that have to come together to make a boxing match... Where as the UFC is like a Roman Gladiator slave camp, if you want to eat, you fight who we want you to fight and you let win who we want to win.... That sh*t is pure hype for the racist, fat f*cks... *** ass ground fighting, Ground fighting is to be used in a death match, not sport... There is not one Pro Westler that would last one round with the Heavyweight champ, There are lights out prospects in boxing that would get murdered by the champ in there respective weight classes if they challegend for the title within a year of going pro... Take your ass to S****G with the rest of the lay in pray, break his arm, twist his knee lames...

That's very mature, everybody always has to insulting people because they don't agree with opinions. and I one of the "lames"...yeah...Did I ever say UFC was a freakin sport? Learn to read EVERYTHING people god damn. I never once dissed boxing, never once compared them, I just put up that I saw on a reliable site that a UFC PPV apeared to do better then all the boxing events last year. And those pro wrestlers to boxing comparision are so freakin stupid and hold absolutely NO WEIGHT since boxing is a totally different sport then MMA & pro wrestling. It's the same thing for every one of them. A pure boxer with no ground game will never beat the UFC champion who will just take him down and kill him there, just like a UFC fighter will never be able to become a boxing world champion since boxers spend years perfecting their skills, but same thing, no boxer or MMA fighter could make it in the WWE since if you actually looked into it, it takes years to learn all the right moves even though it's fake, if you don't do the moves right you'll break your neck.

Brock Lesnar was able to do it because he's big, strong, fast, and was already an incredible amateur wrestler in college. Not to mention the heavyweight division at the time was very very weak The champion(Randy Couture) was a natural light heavweight so since he was bigger, stronger, and faster of course he's going to win.

Their all unqiue in their own right, so get the f over it, their all extremely difficult in their own right.

Bloody$Nate$

02-25-2010, 03:32 PM

i would rather step into the cage against fedor than the ring against a prime tyson.

well **** haha that's FACT haha but that's a totally different discussion. Thats just an example of how MMA CAN be safer then boxing, CAN be. Just because you can take the guy down and submit him in under a minute without taking one punch where with boxing your guranteed to get hit 50-100 times in the head unless your extremely gifted like Floyd.

BUt hell yeah I rather be able to tap to a Fedor armbar then get murdered by one of Tysons hooks anyday. But i'd rather take on Wladimir Klitshco then Brock Lesnar. :boxing:

Lesnar's gonna take you down and beat the **** of you and their aint nothing you can do about it. That's a big mofo. Atleast with Wlad you can circle around the ring and last all twelve like Kevin did to his Wlad's brother

kaps

02-25-2010, 05:13 PM

well **** haha that's FACT haha but that's a totally different discussion. Thats just an example of how MMA CAN be safer then boxing, CAN be. Just because you can take the guy down and submit him in under a minute without taking one punch where with boxing your guranteed to get hit 50-100 times in the head unless your extremely gifted like Floyd.

BUt hell yeah I rather be able to tap to a Fedor armbar then get murdered by one of Tysons hooks anyday. But i'd rather take on Wladimir Klitshco then Brock Lesnar. :boxing:

Lesnar's gonna take you down and beat the **** of you and their aint nothing you can do about it. That's a big mofo. Atleast with Wlad you can circle around the ring and last all twelve like Kevin did to his Wlad's brother

I'd rather be koed than have a broken arm...

JoeKickAss

02-25-2010, 05:55 PM

Pay the main event fighter more than 10 million and than maybe I'll believe the numbers.

M Deezy

02-25-2010, 06:02 PM

i would rather step into the cage against fedor than the ring against a prime tyson.

lol either way ull be laying face down in a coma

letsgobrady

02-25-2010, 06:04 PM

In your group of friends yeah, makes since, because you're boxing fans. I'm talking about the average Joe nobody on the street. MMA has hardcore fans that have been around for years and also has mainstream appeal that covers 90% of the "fans" you see on the streets wearing there tapout shirts and bull****ting about **** Chestner. Boxing almost only has hardcore fans, which is why the average Joe usually only buys big name fights. UFC sells almost as much of their brand as they do off their fighters...

i'm a boxing fan most of my friends are just regular street *****s and i have 2 other friends that are mma fans and they didn't know anthony johnson by name.i don't know where u arer from but in the bronx and brooklyn the average joe knows more boxers than mma fighters.jus because u wear a tapout shirt doesn't mean you know anything about mma

F l i c k e r

02-25-2010, 06:09 PM

Dude, this is boxing scene. The reason anybody clicks on any forum is to talk ****.

QFT. You win!!

letsgobrady

02-25-2010, 06:12 PM

That's very mature, everybody always has to insulting people because they don't agree with opinions. and I one of the "lames"...yeah...Did I ever say UFC was a freakin sport? Learn to read EVERYTHING people god damn. I never once dissed boxing, never once compared them, I just put up that I saw on a reliable site that a UFC PPV apeared to do better then all the boxing events last year. And those pro wrestlers to boxing comparision are so freakin stupid and hold absolutely NO WEIGHT since boxing is a totally different sport then MMA & pro wrestling. It's the same thing for every one of them. A pure boxer with no ground game will never beat the UFC champion who will just take him down and kill him there, just like a UFC fighter will never be able to become a boxing world champion since boxers spend years perfecting their skills, but same thing, no boxer or MMA fighter could make it in the WWE since if you actually looked into it, it takes years to learn all the right moves even though it's fake, if you don't do the moves right you'll break your neck.

Brock Lesnar was able to do it because he's big, strong, fast, and was already an incredible amateur wrestler in college. Not to mention the heavyweight division at the time was very very weak The champion(Randy Couture) was a natural light heavweight so since he was bigger, stronger, and faster of course he's going to win.

Their all unqiue in their own right, so get the f over it, their all extremely difficult in their own right.

in the ufc you can win off of size alone you don't see **** like that in boxing or someone win the title in 2-3 fights like silver or brock did.in the ufc there is not that much of a difference between that top guy and the guy at the bottom or who just started fighting but in boxing skills pay the bills there is no way someone is going to beat mayweather,marquez,bradleyor mosley in their 5th pro fight

GroundSt.Pound

02-25-2010, 06:15 PM

lol @ ufc fanboys fudging the #s to make their sport look better. That's a new low.

It's no more pathetic than boxing elitists pointing to fight purses as a reason boxing is better than MMA.

BTW, LOL if that is you in your avatar. Eat a cheeseburger or something

corpse elf

02-25-2010, 06:34 PM

You gray K'd me? Are you freaking serious? Their not my numbers, yahoo is a credible source. Your ****ing pathetic. Glad nobodys allowed to share **** with opinions anymore without being K'd. grow the **** up.

youve lost ANY credibility after reading the bold...its a well known fact that yahoo CATERS to the ufc..they have writers who hang with ufc exec's theyre all good friends man Yahoo is just that..a bunch of yahoo's...

oh and how CREDIBLE are those numbers...did those numbers have an audit or did dana inflatuate those numbers cause ufc is a HOMEGROWN company that releases basically ANY DAMN NUMBERS they want cause there NOT a public company? Atleast boxing numbers are legit and they dont lie to the f*cken fans..what we see is what we get..the truth...

If youre gonna have a title like that? Very ****y..Your confidence better show us more then just what dana and his yahoo's tells u pal..

GroundSt.Pound

02-25-2010, 06:36 PM

youve lost ANY credibility after reading the bold...its a well known fact that yahoo CATERS to the ufc..they have writers who hang with ufc exec's theyre all good friends man Yahoo is just that..a bunch of yahoo's...

oh and how CREDIBLE are those numbers...did those numbers have an audit or did dana inflatuate those numbers cause ufc is a HOMEGROWN company that releases basically ANY DAMN NUMBERS they want cause there NOT a public company? Atleast boxing numbers are legit and they dont lie to the f*cken fans..what we see is what we get..the truth...

If youre gonna have a title like that? Very ****y..Your confidence better show us more then just what dana and his yahoo's tells u pal..

...and you're in the red and a known MMA hater, so your word is about as good as a politicians

corpse elf

02-25-2010, 06:42 PM

...and you're in the red and a known MMA hater, so your word is about as good as a politicians

no i just hate pacquiao..

GroundSt.Pound

02-25-2010, 06:43 PM

no i just hate pacquiao..

May I ask for what reason?

corpse elf

02-25-2010, 06:59 PM

May I ask for what reason?

Cause he only wants to fight past prime and or drained opponents among MANY other reasons which i just dont feel like typing right now...

Barrera 1-PAST PRIME
Morales1-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED-Erik DESTROYED Manny
Morales2-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Morales3-PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Jmm-1 -Jmm Beat the crap out of Pacroid..
Jmm-2 PAST PRIME – Marquez beat up manny…AGAIN lmfao
Barrera2-PAST PRIME
Diaz-Got a gift decision against a SHOT Morales..
Delahoya- PASTPRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Hatton- PAST PRIME WEIGHT DRAINED
Cotto-PASTPRIME? WEIGHT DRAINED

I hate pacquiao and he can go straight to hell..i hope floyd knocks him out..

Rolling Stone

02-25-2010, 07:32 PM

UFC can suck my dick.....those numbers came from fairytale land....if the UFC are really making those numbers than why don't they make em public???? lets get a neutral party in there and check it out...mother****ers

kaps

02-25-2010, 08:14 PM

i'm a boxing fan most of my friends are just regular street *****s and i have 2 other friends that are mma fans and they didn't know anthony johnson by name.i don't know where u arer from but in the bronx and brooklyn the average joe knows more boxers than mma fighters.

I'm in cali, it says so right under my name.

jus because u wear a tapout shirt doesn't mean you know anything about mma

That was kinda my point....

kaps

02-25-2010, 08:16 PM

in the ufc you can win off of size alone you don't see **** like that in boxing

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/293/Nikolai-Valuev86.jpg

QUELOQUE

02-25-2010, 08:51 PM

You know what's funny about those UFC 100 numbers? I remember Dana White saying beforehand that he'd be happy if the UFC 100 did 1.6 million. And it did just that, his head must be a crystal ball.

kaps

02-25-2010, 09:10 PM

You know what's funny about those UFC 100 numbers? I remember Dana White saying beforehand that he'd be happy if the UFC 100 did 1.6 million. And it did just that, his head must be a crystal ball.

Dana White is a piece of ****, and I agree that some numbers may be exaggerated. I usually get my numbers from Metzler and I can guarantee that most ppvs are in the 300,000 to 700,000 range which isn't too shabby. Dana needs to stop being a ***** and throw the numbers out there. Also, isn't there a way to get the numbers from directTV/Comcast/Whoever?

GroundSt.Pound

02-25-2010, 09:15 PM

Dana White is a piece of ****, and I agree that some numbers may be exaggerated. I usually get my numbers from Metzler and I can guarantee that most ppvs are in the 300,000 to 700,000 range which isn't too shabby. Dana needs to stop being a ***** and throw the numbers out there. Also, isn't there a way to get the numbers from directTV/Comcast/Whoever?

Regardless of what the "real" numbers are, if the numbers were crap, they wouldn't be doing as well as they are right now (spreading to other countries, bringing revenue to the cities they hold events in, paying their top dogs upwards of $300,000.

They are obviously doing really well. So the numbers may be exaggerated, but only slightly.

gimmeyapudpud

02-25-2010, 09:18 PM

Schaefer questioned the legitimacy of UFC pay-per-view results that were leaked. He said HBO is a publicly traded company that would face serious repercussions for releasing false numbers. The UFC, he noted, is a private company with no such concerns.

“I think the UFC and boxing should be able to co-exist and work together in this thing that we call (combat) sports,” Schaefer said.

“I don’t want to talk (expletive) about the UFC. But Dana White can’t do an interview without knocking boxing. If he thinks we’re idiots and don’t know anything about the pay-per-view business, I’ll make him a challenge.

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

White said he would not allow anyone other than fighters with a contractual right to do so to audit his numbers.

“Do you think I’m (expletive) crazy?” he said.

kaps

02-25-2010, 09:20 PM

but it barely broke a million.

****, only a million. That's ****ing terrible!

gimmeyapudpud

02-25-2010, 09:28 PM

****, only a million. That's ****ing terrible!

That's not the point,is it? The point is that Dana White continually brags about how great the false numbers his company is doing and comparing it to boxing,which does release real numbers and yet doesn't have the sack to prove these numbers.

Dana White could have immediately shut Schaefer down but he knows Schafaer owned him and the mma community.

Mma fans are quite as snobbish and stuck up as they were prior to last year.

kaps

02-25-2010, 09:36 PM

That's not the point,is it? The point is that Dana White continually brags about how great the false numbers his company is doing and comparing it to boxing,which does release real numbers and yet doesn't have the sack to prove these numbers.

I just said he exaggerates numbers, like 2 posts ago. Look for yourself...

Dana White could have immediately shut Schaefer down but he knows Schafaer owned him and the mma community.

He could of, but didn't because he says exaggerates, like I said 2 posts ago. How was the MMA community owned? Are you basing all MMA fans off of what Dana White says?

Mma fans are quite as snobbish and stuck up as they were prior to last year.

Snobbish and stuck up?

JoeKickAss

02-25-2010, 09:48 PM

Regardless of what the "real" numbers are, if the numbers were crap, they wouldn't be doing as well as they are right now (spreading to other countries, bringing revenue to the cities they hold events in, paying their top dogs upwards of $300,000.

They are obviously doing really well. So the numbers may be exaggerated, but only slightly.

Only slightly? Dana said Brock would end up with 3 million in his pocket. PBF and Pac had 1, 1.2million buys and both alone made around 20 million

kaps

02-25-2010, 09:51 PM

Only slightly? Dana said Brock would end up with 3 million in his pocket. PBF and Pac had 1, 1.2million buys and both alone made around 20 million

So the promoter made less. UFC is a brand and keeps most of the money. Seeing how they pretty much have the monopoly on MMA they can choose to pay there fighters **** and the fighters can't do **** about it. Unless they go to Strikeforce which will pay less than the crappy money UFC is giving them....

rainmaker89

02-26-2010, 08:30 PM

when is the boxing elitist going to stop being so ignorant..granted there are retards from both sides of the aisle calling each other names but this **** should really stop..and to anyone spouting the same BS of "ohh MMGAY is not a sport..its a fringe and not mainstream...it doesnt have real athlethes.." heres are just couple of vids..of its growing existence of MMA fighters going into mainstream..

UnderArmour with GSP

youtube.com/watch?v=oulAaW4OjDY

Nike with Quinton "Rampage" Jackson

youtube.com/watch?v=3iLa3UR6S7k

(SORRY CANT POST LINKS)

letsgobrady

02-27-2010, 09:06 PM

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/photos/293/Nikolai-Valuev86.jpg

did he not just lose?didn't he also lose to chagaev? easy for him to beat contenders and even thoguh he is big he doesn't impose his size on his opponents he actually boxes

Forza

02-27-2010, 11:48 PM

I3C727

02-28-2010, 12:18 AM

Hahahahhaha. Failure OP.

Seriously.

BOXING 24/7

02-28-2010, 12:22 AM