Mosley lost two VERY CLOSE decisions against Winky Wright and that continued his losing streak and his fight against Estrada which was very lopsided on the scorecards in his favor was supposed to be his "comeback" fight...

Well after Saturday night, maybe boxing people were hasty. One judge scored the second fight with Winky a draw and the other two had Winky 115-113

Shane is 40-4, but his only two losses are to Vernon Forrest (who only one guy has been able to beat) and to Winky. Guess sometimes somebody might just have your number...

I don't think Shane has never looked the same after that 1st Forrest fight.

I think that took a lot out of him!

i think your right felix would have lost to shane

I was kinda thinking the same thing about Mosely. In their 2nd fight it was very close & made me wonder about how well Mosely would do against Tito. He really had no business in the jr. middle division anyway, he's too small. The move back to welter should improve him alot, he might be able to dominate the division.

i've been saying this for a while, alot of people think shane and oscar are shot becuase they lost to bigger, world class, P4P guys...... they'll be able to compete with most anyone at 147

I don't think Shane has ever looked the same after that 1st Forrest fight.

I think that took a lot out of him!

idiot..what guy at 135 pounds moves up t0 147..is 5'6 fights a guy like 6'0 and is gonna look good?

The first fight was not close. Wright beat Mosley 8-4.

The rematch was closer, but it was due to the fact that Wright was not putting %100 into it. I believe that Wright only did enough to win in the rematch. This way Trinidad's people would think they would have a chance against him.

Wright fought a very good fight against Trinidad. But in terms of being able to get a rematch, he screwed himself. Wright controlled the fight so well, he should have let Trinidad win 5 rounds.

By beating Trinidad so convincingly , it shut out Wright from a chance to make many more millions in a rematch.

idiot..what guy at 135 pounds moves up t0 147..is 5'6 fights a guy like 6'0 and is gonna look good?
I think you missed what I was saying.. Read it again fella, I wasn't talking about the Mosley vs Forrest fight, I was saying that Mosely never looked the same again after...

Did you watch that fight???

GURU, I agree completely. Shane had no business going up to throw hands with the bigger guys. Oscar did fairly well in Jr Middle, but you could still see flaws in his fights. Now that both of these guys are at Welter, it should bring up some good fights. Possible opponents: Zab, Margarito, and Tszyu. These guys are still in their prime in my opinion. I would love to see Shane go up against Margarito with the winner going against the winner of Zab vs Oscar. good times.

Either way Mosley just gained tons of confidence back.

i guess shane went to 154 because he couldnt beat forrest and to chase oscar($$$$), but he shoulda went down to 140 instead....

Mosley lost two VERY CLOSE decisions against Winky Wright and that continued his losing streak and his fight against Estrada which was very lopsided on the scorecards in his favor was supposed to be his "comeback" fight...

Well after Saturday night, maybe boxing people were hasty. One judge scored the second fight with Winky a draw and the other two had Winky 115-113

Shane is 40-4, but his only two losses are to Vernon Forrest (who only one guy has been able to beat) and to Winky. Guess sometimes somebody might just have your number...

sorry neils. i just read reeno's article "wright proved to be wrong choice for trinidad" then immediately posted a new thread without seeing your thread on same subject as mine. sorry

I wouldn't say the fights with Winky were VERY close for Mosley...but he did come to at leas try...more so in the rematch...even hurting Winky...he got in more shots than Tito did and somewhat let his hands go a bit more...problem is that Mosley of today is more a fighter who wait for openings kind of like Tito...only Mosley throws a little bit more combinations...but not much

I think Winky vs Tito goes to show that Winky will not be easy for ANYONE...he will not be easy for Taylor or Hopkins...helping Mosley's case along with him moving up in weight...

I think he is pretty much done, add on the fact that he is now 33 years old. I think the Forrest and Wright fights took all the fight of Shane.

i think that mosley must have partied hard after winky f'd up trinidad, i thought mosley won the 2nd winky fight. he is much smarter than tito, shane was stepping to the side and punching around winky's guard and hitting him in the ear and side of the head. this is a big boost for shane

Well Shane Mosley is a more polished fighter than Trinidad. Trinidad gots power, but that's about it. Shane did betta than Tito did gainst Winky that fo sho!

Well Shane Mosley is a more polished fighter than Trinidad. Trinidad gots power, but that's about it. Shane did betta than Tito did gainst Winky that fo sho!

I like Tridad and Mosley but that's the first time in a while I've seen anyone refer to Mosley as more polished than anyone!

I like Tridad and Mosley but that's the first time in a while I've seen anyone refer to Mosley as more polished than anyone!

I never thought I would say Mosley did better than Tito because he threw more combinations

shane will eat judah up

shane atheltism , speed and strenght (at 147) makes hima threat to anybody at 147 .


if he goes back to body punching , and put his punches together like he used to , he can beat judah . i think margarito has the size and iron mind to wear him down , but judah isnt strong enough and mosley is as fast as super .

mosley is past his prime , but far from shot

Mosley lost two VERY CLOSE decisions against Winky Wright and that continued his losing streak and his fight against Estrada which was very lopsided on the scorecards in his favor was supposed to be his "comeback" fight...

Nothing close about those losses. Especially the first one. Shane didn't win 3 rounds in that fight.

In the rematch, with Winky less concerned, Shane wins 4 rounds...maybe 5. Nothing to shake a stick at. Shane is not "done" but he ain't what he used to be either. I don't think he can ever be undisputed again. With the action flowing to 147, guys like Margarito are too good for him, and I wouldn't say Judah couldn't beat him either. De La Hoya also looks to be at 147 if he comes back again.

Who was surprised at Mosley's ineptitude against Winky? C'mon, you can't beat the small guys so you decide to challeng the big ones?

I see a mass exodus to the lower weights so finally vanity, ambition and greed has been tempered with good ole fashioned common sense and humility(not humiliation).

Bout time, too. Hopefully they haven't squandered what's left of their talent and youth fighting the "impossible fights".