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Do you think Jardine and Bonnar will be dropped from ufc now?

anybody else find it hilarious that he fell in the exact same fashion as his boy Rashad?

Bader is awesome.

another glass chinned mma fighter

Do you think Jardine and Bonnar will be dropped from ufc now?

IMO Bonnar was coming back to win that fight, he turned the tide on round 2 but that cut.......

Naw, both stay, Jardine didn't look that bad before the KO, plus they're both early TUF fighters so they'll stay.

anybody else find it hilarious that he fell in the exact same fashion as his boy Rashad?

I was at a house party and we said the same thing, funny **** indeed.

another glass chinned mma fighter

....hardly, most boxers would've been KO'd by that punch alone......

Jardine is still a good gatekeeper and a stepping stone but he needs to win his next fight to stay in the UFC imo.

3 losses in a row, 2 by ko.

I Wanna see Bader VS Thiago Silva

I Wanna see Bader VS Thiago Silva

bader will f.uck him up

most boxers wouldve been k.o'd by a weak left hook from a wrestler? LMAO.

LMAO i wonder how Keith Jardine will get KOed next time, Jardine is good for the UFC, he offers good knockouts for dozens of UFC Knockouts editions to come.

bader will f.uck him up

Be a great fight for an undercard tho :boxing:

most boxers wouldve been k.o'd by a weak left hook from a wrestler? LMAO.

A wrestler with good power, weak left hook.... buahaha, kid, before you speak watch the sport without any bias towards boxing or boxers.....

did anyone else see him face plant on a sprawl? lmfao

A wrestler with good power, weak left hook.... buahaha, kid, before you speak watch the sport without any bias towards boxing or boxers.....

Decent power, horrible boxing technique. The kid couldnt box his way out of a paper bag. Hes what 205? Put him in the ring with a 155 pound boxer and he will get K.O'd. Ive seen women with better boxing technique than bader. I do respect him for trying to learn how to use his hands even though hes a wrestler.

has dana pretty much guaranteed that bonnar & griffin have lifetime contracts because there epic brawl sprung UFC into stardom?

Decent power, horrible boxing technique. The kid couldnt box his way out of a paper bag. Hes what 205? Put him in the ring with a 155 pound boxer and he will get K.O'd. Ive seen women with better boxing technique than bader. I do respect him for trying to learn how to use his hands even though hes a wrestler.

Kinda agree, but great boxing technique in MMA will only get you half way there really, but he is learning and an up and coming fighter.....

has dana pretty much guaranteed that bonnar & griffin have lifetime contracts because there epic brawl sprung UFC into stardom?


Yeah, saw a video where he stated that those two would always have a home in the UFC, pretty much on acount of "their historic, most important fight under the UFC banner" quote he likes to throw around.

Decent power, horrible boxing technique. The kid couldnt box his way out of a paper bag. Hes what 205? Put him in the ring with a 155 pound boxer and he will get K.O'd. Ive seen women with better boxing technique than bader. I do respect him for trying to learn how to use his hands even though hes a wrestler.
A tradional boxing stance will leave you vulnerable for a takedown or leg kicks and bobing and weaving could lead to a thai clinch. As for punching power, taking a punch from an MMA glove is comparable to a shotgun blast at point blank range where as a punch from a boxing glove s like a shotgun blast from 30ft. Both will do the same amount of damage, but the MMA one will hurt more and cause a higher KO percantage due the higher concentration of power being focused on a smaller point of contact. It's not that these guys can't box it's that most of the things that would work in boxing just wouldn't translate well into MMA.

A tradional boxing stance will leave you vulnerable for a takedown or leg kicks and bobing and weaving could lead to a thai clinch. As for punching power, taking a punch from an MMA glove is comparable to a shotgun blast at point blank range where as a punch from a boxing glove s like a shotgun blast from 30ft. Both will do the same amount of damage, but the MMA one will hurt more and cause a higher KO percantage due the higher concentration of power being focused on a smaller point of contact. It's not that these guys can't box it's that most of the things that would work in boxing just wouldn't translate well into MMA.

qft.................

A tradional boxing stance will leave you vulnerable for a takedown or leg kicks and bobing and weaving could lead to a thai clinch. As for punching power, taking a punch from an MMA glove is comparable to a shotgun blast at point blank range where as a punch from a boxing glove s like a shotgun blast from 30ft. Both will do the same amount of damage, but the MMA one will hurt more and cause a higher KO percantage due the higher concentration of power being focused on a smaller point of contact. It's not that these guys can't box it's that most of the things that would work in boxing just wouldn't translate well into MMA.

I thinks its morely the other way around, a good boxer is halfway to becoming a good mma fighter, he must learn the ground game along with a few kicks, a mma fighter has to start from the ground up in boxing because boxing isnt about power and speed and all that, its mainly a thinking game about timing and prediction

A tradional boxing stance will leave you vulnerable for a takedown or leg kicks and bobing and weaving could lead to a thai clinch. As for punching power, taking a punch from an MMA glove is comparable to a shotgun blast at point blank range where as a punch from a boxing glove s like a shotgun blast from 30ft. Both will do the same amount of damage, but the MMA one will hurt more and cause a higher KO percantage due the higher concentration of power being focused on a smaller point of contact. It's not that these guys can't box it's that most of the things that would work in boxing just wouldn't translate well into MMA.

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Tell that to this guy too.

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another glass chinned mma fighter

brb, boxing with pillows and claiming I have an iron jaw.

I thinks its morely the other way around, a good boxer is halfway to becoming a good mma fighter, he must learn the ground game along with a few kicks, a mma fighter has to start from the ground up in boxing because boxing isnt about power and speed and all that, its mainly a thinking game about timing and prediction

No. It's not that easy bro.

An MMA fighter is closer to boxing than the other way around because punching is only ONE part of their repitoire. Will that mean they will be the next Pacquiao? No. But taking an MMA fighter from the cage and putting him in the boxing ring, he has a bigger chance to win than a Boxer going into the cage.

How do you neutralize a boxer? Kicks and takedowns. My leg is longer than your arm. And you can't punch while laying on your back.

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Do you think Jardine and Bonnar will be dropped from ufc now?
Firstly hopefully the Bonner decision gets changed cuz how can you lose from an illegal blow. Secondly I wouldnt drop him anyway cuz that was a real good fight and he was coming on well before it was stopped. Thirdly and most importantly Dana did a Q&A for fight club members before the weigh in, someone asked if Bonner will get dropped if he loses cuz it would be his 3rd in a row. Dana's reply was Forrest and Stephan are like his kids and regardless of what happens in any of their fights they will never get cut from the UFC, never.

I see the mma fanboys are apologising for the fact that Jardine,like virtually every other mma fighter has a glass jaw.


You fanboys need to get over the fact that mma simply attracts mediocre athletes who can't throw nor take a punch to save their life.


Mma fighters will continue to train under the likes of Pat Militech and Shawn Thompkins for their boxing and keep the sport at a dead still like they have over the last decade.



And LOL at the one mma fanboy who thinks a decent mma fighter has a greater chance at beating a boxer at his own game than vice versa.


You fanboys will never live down Mercer cracking mma's glass jaw.Mercer an unranked,out of shape old man who suffers from hepatitus B was able to knock out former UFC heavyweight champion who was still a top ranked heavyweight.




Some of you mma fanboys should stay over at sherdog with your own kind.It's clear none of you watch or know anything about the sport of boxing.

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Can you take a full blast side kick to the jaw?

Banned again....

brb, boxing with pillows and claiming I have an iron jaw.

Pillows, really? I bet 1 punch from an unranked club boxer to your stomach would have you pissing blood.

Pillows, really? I bet 1 punch from an unranked club boxer to your stomach would have you pissing blood.

I fail to see what a bodyshot has to do with your jaw.

Besides I fail to see how this "glass jaw MMA fighter" argument makes any sense.

Does everyone that decides to train MMA suddenly develop a glass jaw. Does MMA training cause you're chin to abruptly turn to glass?

Really where do people come up with this ****?

I fail to see what a bodyshot has to do with your jaw.

Besides I fail to see how this "glass jaw MMA fighter" argument makes any sense.

Does everyone that decides to train MMA suddenly develop a glass jaw. Does MMA training cause you're chin to abruptly turn to glass?

Really where do people come up with this ****?

Considering MMA fighters get K.O'd so easily, it's a fair assessment. Maybe they all don't have glass jaws, but they sure as hell can't take a punch.

Considering MMA fighters get K.O'd so easily, it's a fair assessment. Maybe they all don't have glass jaws, but they sure as hell can't take a punch.

I see you're from Miami. Head 95 North to Boca, walk thru the doors of ATT and tell them they can't take a punch....

I see you're from Miami. Head 95 North to Boca, walk thru the doors of ATT and tell them they can't take a punch....

nice, haha ;D

Considering MMA fighters get K.O'd so easily, it's a fair assessment. Maybe they all don't have glass jaws, but they sure as hell can't take a punch.

if boxers used 4oz gloves, you would say all boxers have glass chins

I see you're from Miami. Head 95 North to Boca, walk thru the doors of ATT and tell them they can't take a punch....

Probably 50+ boxing clubs in Florida have called out ATT, ATT never responds.

if boxers used 4oz gloves, you would say all boxers have glass chins


If boxers used those tiny gloves there would be a death in the ring every other fight.

Probably 50+ boxing clubs in Florida have called out ATT, ATT never responds.




If boxers used those tiny gloves there would be a death in the ring every other fight.

While you're there, say hi too Howard Davis Jr. Olympic Gold Medalist 1976 Games and boxing instructor at ATT, ask him how well MMA fighters take a punch. Then ask for Ben Stark, he'll sort out the rest...

Besides I fail to see how this "glass jaw MMA fighter" argument makes any sense.

Does everyone that decides to train MMA suddenly develop a glass jaw. Does MMA training cause you're chin to abruptly turn to glass?

Really where do people come up with this ****?



It's a recurring theme,mma fighter gets tagged,mma fighter goes down and out.Mma attracts grapplers and club fighters who are simply not conditioned to take a punch.



if boxers used 4oz gloves, you would say all boxers have glass chins



Not really.Pride used 6oz gloves and the chin(or lack of) was the same there as it is in North America.

While you're there, say hi too Howard Davis Jr. Olympic Gold Medalist 1976 Games and boxing instructor at ATT, ask him how well MMA fighters take a punch. Then ask for Ben Stark, he'll sort out the rest...

davis is pushing 60 years old lmao. He was a great boxer but cmon the "strikers" coming out of ATT are a joke. BTW your boy din thomas is gonna die in that octagon if the fight stays standing for more than 30 seconds....

most boxers wouldve been k.o'd by a weak left hook from a wrestler? LMAO.

yes.

and that left hook was not weak.

another glass chinned mma fighter

Not a glass chin.You Boxing fanatics do not like MMA.I understand that but the gloves MMA guys use are a lot different than the pillows Boxers use.I like MMA and Boxing.

It's a recurring theme,mma fighter gets tagged,mma fighter goes down and out.Mma attracts grapplers and club fighters who are simply not conditioned to take a punch.

First of all boxing with 12oz gloves as opposed to 4oz is a big difference.

Secondly, the fact that MMA is more diverse and there is more to train for and worry about in a fight, knockout ratios are higher. If all I had to do was worry about getting punched in the face, chances are my defense would be a lot better and thus, knockouts would be less common.

Lastly, there is no way to condition yourself to take a punch to the head. Are you in control of the way your brain bounces around against your skull? No

taking an MMA fighter from the cage and putting him in the boxing ring, he has a bigger chance to win than a Boxer going into the cage.


This is stupid.A boxer will always have a punchers chance in an MMA wanna see Tim vs Mercer or Diaz vs Noons.Oh and BTW Marcus Davis and Sakara are bums in boxing but are pretty much succesful as an MMA fighter.

Tim vs Mercer or Diaz vs Noons.Oh and BTW Marcus Davis and Sakara are bums in boxing but are pretty much succesful as an MMA fighter.

You are desperate and reaching really bad right now.

So if Mercer beat Tim Sylvia that means MMA < Boxing?
Well you know what Kimbo Slice beat Ray Mercer so you know what Streetfighting > Boxing.

Mercer and Sylvia is the result of poor gameplanning (and management) on Sylvia's part and a 10 second fight isn't indication of much.

Noons beat Diaz by Cuts due to excessive knees, not superior boxing.

Davis, maybe. However Marcus Davis has more wins by submission than by Knockout.

Sakara is a bum in MMA too.

First of all boxing with 12oz gloves as opposed to 4oz is a big difference.

Secondly, the fact that MMA is more diverse and there is more to train for and worry about in a fight, knockout ratios are higher. If all I had to do was worry about getting punched in the face, chances are my defense would be a lot better and thus, knockouts would be less common.

Lastly, there is no way to condition yourself to take a punch to the head. Are you in control of the way your brain bounces around against your skull? No



Mma fighters have glass jaws because they have "more to train for"? :rofl:

I've heard it all now.


Don't attempt to use the smaller gloves excuse because it's a myth and nothing more.Logic would actually tell you that more the impact of a heavier glove is more damaging than a lighter glove.Especially considering who is throwing the punch.


boxers compete using 8-10 oz gloves,and that includes the heavyweights.Don't make up lies to suit your flawed fanboy argument.


Of course you can condition yourself to take a punch.One punch knockouts are not a recurring theme in boxing like it is mma because boxers are simply greater conditioned athletes.







You are desperate and reaching really bad right now.

So if Mercer beat Tim Sylvia that means MMA < Boxing?
Well you know what Kimbo Slice beat Ray Mercer so you know what Streetfighting > Boxing.

Mercer and Sylvia is the result of poor gameplanning (and management) on Sylvia's part and a 10 second fight isn't indication of much.

Noons beat Diaz by Cuts due to excessive knees, not superior boxing.

Davis, maybe. However Marcus Davis has more wins by submission than by Knockout.

Sakara is a bum in MMA too.




You've obviously never seen Noons fight with Nick Diaz.Diaz was completely picked apart and outclassed by Noons.Diaz was given a beating and made to look foolish.



Nick Diaz is beating the crap out of fighters currently by just throwing punches in volume.

Mercer-Sylvia was the result of a guy who couldn't take a punch and a guy who could throw a punch.It's as simple as that.



Mercer was shot and old and came to do his job against Kimo Slice.It was a good first outing or his professional wrestling debut.



The number of submissions Marcus Davis has is irrelevant.The man is and always will be a mediocre boxer who has used his mediocre boxing skills to carry him into a pretty decent career in mma.

lol the mma fanboys will never live that mercer vs sylvia down. If I was an mma fan id commit suicide after that fight.

lol the mma fanboys will never live that mercer vs sylvia down. If I was an mma fan id commit suicide after that fight.

You should commit suicide anyway...

lol the mma fanboys will never live that mercer vs sylvia down. If I was an mma fan id commit suicide after that fight.

tim sylvia is mma's version of John Ruiz

many MMA fans, myself included, were quite happy when Mercer laid him to rest

i love jardine. every time he gets knocked out he goes to sleep for a minute and then he goes right to the ref to complain about the "early stoppage"

You dont have to be very technical to punch hard. So what you may wrestle but if you have natural power and have some decent weight 205 behind your punch, most men will fall if they get hit clean. Not all mma fighters have **** chins. There defence isnt just used against punches. They have to look out for kicks and takdowns or grapples. Added to the fact that with little gloves you cant block hardly any punches unlike boxing gloves where they give you quite good protection from other punches.