If Mayweaher beats Gatti - Which is very likely to happen, what will be Mayweather's next move?

Mayweather is very vocal about his plans to move to 147lbs and take on a De La Hoya or Mosely in a superfight. But he'll be leaving unfinished business behind right?

Gatti maybe the WBC light-welterweight champion, but there are about 5 or 6 fighters in that division that I would rate above him, (and expect to easily beat him).

So if Mayweather beats Gatti and then moves to 147lbs, would you view him as a fight ducker? For not challenging Tszyu/Cotto/Harris/Hatton/Witter - (all of which I think would beat Gatti).

Don't get me wrong, this is not an anti-Mayweather thread... I've got a lot of respect for the skills that boy has! But I fear he's gonna pull a RJJ and not face the best in this division, and that may come back to haunt him later? :dunno:

Floyd had spoke often of taking on Tszyu and Harris. Those are the two fighters that come up the most as far as I've heard.

The biggest advantage he would have against Tszyu is age, which is going to catch up on Kostya sooner or later. That would take a significant amount of risk out of this encounter and if he beat Tszyu if would add significantly to his prestige.

Thing is Oscar's getting old as well and he might jump up right away to face him before it's too late. I still predict a fight with Kostya though.

The big and best fights for Mayweather will be at 147.

Eventually Mayweather will run into Vivian Harris at 140 and that is something that he is avoiding like the black plague.

If he moves to 147 and fights the best that is bigger than anything that could happen at 140. He started his career at 130 and would have moved up just about 20 pounds to take on the bigger guys.

Mayweather is small and I think he will max out at 147 and the bigger names are there and that is where he wants to be at. Mayweather has chased DLH his whole career.

One fight I wish that would have happened at 135 would be a prime shane vs Mayweather.

Damn that would have been great.

The big and best fights for Mayweather will be at 147.

Eventually Mayweather will run into Vivian Harris at 140 and that is something that he is avoiding like the black plague.

If he moves to 147 and fights the best that is bigger than anything that could happen at 140. He started his career at 130 and would have moved up just about 20 pounds to take on the bigger guys.

Mayweather is small and I think he will max out at 147 and the bigger names are there and that is where he wants to be at. Mayweather has chased DLH his whole career.

One fight I wish that would have happened at 135 would be a prime shane vs Mayweather.

Damn that would have been great.

Doesn't stop him from talking a lot of trash about Harris, though. You think he is really trying that hard to avoid him?

Doesn't stop him from talking a lot of trash about Harris, though. You think he is really trying that hard to avoid him?


Interviewer-"Hey Mayweather how is a possible matchup with you and Vicious Vivian in the future."

Floyd-"Who is Vivian, I never even heard of this guy...Who is he? I dont know no Vicious Vivian."

Interviewer-"He is a recognized champion and belt holder at your division and you mean you have never heard anything about him?"

Floyd-"Nope never heard of him, who is he?"

That is how Floyd responds when he hears Vivians name...Sounds like he is ducking to me.

How about Cotto vs Floyd?

Floyd doesn't need Harris or Cotto...he is looking for the big fights vs Kostya, Mosley, Judah, DLH...

To be honest, I don't think Harris is that great... I saw his 1st fight with Urkal and I reckon he lost that fight. But AMAZINGLY IN GERMANY AGAINST A GERMAN... The judges gave the nod to Harris.

It was a close fight, but I thought Urkal pipped it by 1 or 2 rounds. - (harris won the re-match, but not by that much).

So I'm not sure that Harris is all that... I reckon Mayweather wouldn't have too many problems with Harris.

Interviewer-"Hey Mayweather how is a possible matchup with you and Vicious Vivian in the future."

Floyd-"Who is Vivian, I never even heard of this guy...Who is he? I dont know no Vicious Vivian."

Interviewer-"He is a recognized champion and belt holder at your division and you mean you have never heard anything about him?"

Floyd-"Nope never heard of him, who is he?"

That is how Floyd responds when he hears Vivians name...Sounds like he is ducking to me.

How about Cotto vs Floyd?

haha yeah, I heard him mention once about how the guy was in a rap video and he doesn't even know who he is. I didn't interpret it as ducking, but I see what you mean. If he pretends that the guy doesn't exist then he doesn't have to face him.

I used to think that Cotto might give Floyd some trouble, with his hand speed and his decent power. But Corley exposed him a bit, and unless he gets himself a title soon I would say that Floyd would probably just forget about him.

If he really wants to face DLH it seems like so much depends on how much longer Oscar plans on fighting. That's probably going to be unpredictable as well because one more bad loss and Oscar might retire. If Zab beats him up prett good than I can't really see him going on.

Vivian is one of those fighters that great fighters bring the best out of him, I believe. He has tremendous skills though.

I would expect Cotto to get outclassed by Floyd, but I would like to see Floyd deal with his power.

Harris may be the darkhorse of the division though...he may be the guy who finally gets his Tarveresque break in the future vs a Mayweather, Judah, Kostya

I'm gonna stand out on a limb - But I reckon Cotto is the BEST at 140lbs.

I don't think he was exposed by Chop Chop, in fact... I think that fight has made him stronger, I believe he'll now realise that he's not invinsible, and will be a little more carefull coming in throwing the big shots.

I was also VERY impressed with the way that he dealt with adversity... (Yeah I know, Corley did a **** job of trying to finish him when he had him hurt).

I think Cotto would be too BIG and too STRONG for Mayweather, and Cotto would get out-boxed etc at the begining, but Cotto would catch up with Mayweather and stop him from rounds 7-11.

That's my opinion, but the way I see it, If Corley was able to hurt Mayweather then Cotto will DEFINATLY be able to hurt Mayweather!

Personally I think that Mayweather shouldn't be fighting at 140lb, he's too small!... He'd be the king if he moved back down to Lightweight.

I'm gonna stand out on a limb - But I reckon Cotto is the BEST at 140lbs.

I don't think he was exposed by Chop Chop, in fact... I think that fight has made him stronger, I believe he'll now realise that he's not invinsible, and will be a little more carefull coming in throwing the big shots.

I was also VERY impressed with the way that he dealt with adversity... (Yeah I know, Corley did a **** job of trying to finish him when he had him hurt).

I think Cotto would be too BIG and too STRONG for Mayweather, and Cotto would get out-boxed etc at the begining, but Cotto would catch up with Mayweather and stop him from rounds 7-11.

That's my opinion, but the way I see it, If Corley was able to hurt Mayweather then Cotto will DEFINATLY be able to hurt Mayweather!

Personally I think that Mayweather shouldn't be fighting at 140lb, he's too small!... He'd be the king if he moved back down to Lightweight.


Well Corley hurt Cotto so I have no doubts Mayweather wouldnt be able to. Mayweather smacks pretty hard.

I understand where you are coming from though, I know he wants the big fights but there are some damn good fights below the 140 level for Mayweather.

Castillo
Corrales
Barrera
Morales
Pacquaio

All good fights, although I would favor Mayweather in all of them.

I'm gonna stand out on a limb - But I reckon Cotto is the BEST at 140lbs.

I don't think he was exposed by Chop Chop, in fact... I think that fight has made him stronger, I believe he'll now realise that he's not invinsible, and will be a little more carefull coming in throwing the big shots.

I was also VERY impressed with the way that he dealt with adversity... (Yeah I know, Corley did a **** job of trying to finish him when he had him hurt).

I think Cotto would be too BIG and too STRONG for Mayweather, and Cotto would get out-boxed etc at the begining, but Cotto would catch up with Mayweather and stop him from rounds 7-11.

That's my opinion, but the way I see it, If Corley was able to hurt Mayweather then Cotto will DEFINATLY be able to hurt Mayweather!

Personally I think that Mayweather shouldn't be fighting at 140lb, he's too small!... He'd be the king if he moved back down to Lightweight.

I think that Cotto might get his shots in cause he can throw lightning combos on the inside and then get out of there, but in the end this might come down to a battle of power, in which case Mayweather takes it, IMO.

There's not guarantee that Cotto would be able to land much anyway. Both are fast but Mayweather is still faster. If it came down to number of punches thrown I'd give it to Floyd easy.

Would be a good fight, though. I could be proven wrong :cool: .

I think that Cotto might get his shots in cause he can throw lightning combos on the inside and then get out of there, but in the end this might come down to a battle of power, in which case Mayweather takes it, IMO.

There's not guarantee that Cotto would be able to land much anyway. Both are fast but Mayweather is still faster. If it came down to number of punches thrown I'd give it to Floyd easy.

Would be a good fight, though. I could be proven wrong :cool: .


Mayweather wouldnt allow Cotto to go inside.

It was a close fight, but I thought Urkal pipped it by 1 or 2 rounds. - (harris won the re-match, but not by that much).

1) Harris TKO'd Urkal with a vicious punch. Damn near killed him it looked like. Nothing close about that (this is not to say Harris would beat Mayweather though).

2) No one at 140 has proved they are better than Floyd and Tszyu. These are the best until something else happens. Cotto had a lot more problems with N'dou and Corley than I figure Floyd would have. Cotto has to hit Floyd enough to hurt him and that is doubtful (also considering Bruseles fights very much like Cotto and Cotto swore up and down that Bruseles would beat Floyd, not to say Bruseles is better than Floyd but it shows Cotto underestimates Floyd and that Floyd can deal with that STYLE).

3) If Floyd "pulls and RJJ" good for him. That means he did things his own way and fought guys bigger than him and got respect for it. The people that claim RJJ ducked them often times admitted they didn't even want to fight him. Read up.

4) Floyd has said over and over that he wants Tszyu, and we should believe him because he has a history of fighting the best. I don't particularly like either of the men, but they probably will fight each other within the next year.

5) If Floyd bypasses 140 (which I doubt) to fight guys like Judah, De La Hoya, Mosley, and Margarito at 147 then no one can fault him for that.

1) Harris TKO'd Urkal with a vicious punch. Damn near killed him it looked like. Nothing close about that (this is not to say Harris would beat Mayweather though).

2) No one at 140 has proved they are better than Floyd and Tszyu. These are the best until something else happens. Cotto had a lot more problems with N'dou and Corley than I figure Floyd would have. Cotto has to hit Floyd enough to hurt him and that is doubtful (also considering Bruseles fights very much like Cotto and Cotto swore up and down that Bruseles would beat Floyd, not to say Bruseles is better than Floyd but it shows Cotto underestimates Floyd and that Floyd can deal with that STYLE).

3) If Floyd "pulls and RJJ" good for him. That means he did things his own way and fought guys bigger than him and got respect for it. The people that claim RJJ ducked them often times admitted they didn't even want to fight him. Read up.

4) Floyd has said over and over that he wants Tszyu, and we should believe him because he has a history of fighting the best. I don't particularly like either of the men, but they probably will fight each other within the next year.

5) If Floyd bypasses 140 (which I doubt) to fight guys like Judah, De La Hoya, Mosley, and Margarito at 147 then no one can fault him for that.


Very well said, damn good post.

1) Harris TKO'd Urkal with a vicious punch. Damn near killed him it looked like. Nothing close about that (this is not to say Harris would beat Mayweather though).
Ok it was the 1st fight but you know what I mean't... I remember at the time seeing it on Eurosport and being amazed that a German (that I thought actually won the fight) lost it on the cards IN GERMANY!!!

2) No one at 140 has proved they are better than Floyd and Tszyu. These are the best until something else happens. Cotto had a lot more problems with N'dou and Corley than I figure Floyd would have.
You see Mayweather has successfully confused a lot of people into thinking that he fought and Knocked out Lovemore Ndou... That really hard bastard that tested and fought all Shamba Mitchell/Miguel Cotto/and Junior Witter to the scorecards... But he didn't.

Mayweather beat Phillipe "the pudding" Ndou.

You see Mayweather has successfully confused a lot of people into thinking that he fought and Knocked out Lovemore Ndou

No one is confused. I know that Mayweather beat Phillip N'dou from South Africa. Lovermore is who Cotto fought. I'm saying Floyd would have less trouble than Cotto did.

No one is confused. I know that Mayweather beat Phillip N'dou from South Africa. Lovermore is who Cotto fought. I'm saying Floyd would have less trouble than Cotto did.
I dunno man... I reckon that Lovemore Ndou beat Shamba Mitchell a couple of years ago. I had Lovemore Ndou winning that fight by 2 or 3 rounds and I thought Mitchell was lucky he was fighting in New York and not Sydney! ;)

Mitchell's a pretty crafty boxer... As is Junior Witter, and they both had a lot of problems with Lovemore.

I reckon not just Floyd Mayweather, but any 140lb fighter would have the same problems with Lovemore Ndou.

Lovemore Ndou is under-rated and a very dangerous fighter!

Floyd has everything he needs to clean out the 140lb division. He shouldn't go to 147 to finish his career. Oscar already said he won't fight him. He should fight Sugar Shane Mosley and go back to 140lbs.

I think a fight with Zoo is just a matter of time. I think Floyd will beat Zoo convincingly. He is to fast and to hard to hit. Zoo is a very accurate puncher but i look at the beginning of the Judah fight and Zoo was having trouble with his speed. I know some people will say yeah but he knocked Judah out. This is true but in my opinion he just caught Judah sleeping at it would not happen again. Any way Floyd is faster than judah, harder to hit, and i feel this chin is underated. ;)

I think a fight with Zoo is just a matter of time. I think Floyd will beat Zoo convincingly. He is to fast and to hard to hit. Zoo is a very accurate puncher but i look at the beginning of the Judah fight and Zoo was having trouble with his speed. I know some people will say yeah but he knocked Judah out. This is true but in my opinion he just caught Judah sleeping at it would not happen again. Any way Floyd is faster than judah, harder to hit, and i feel this chin is underated. ;)
I think that Floyd is fighting in a weight class to heavy for himself, (he's at a dissadvantage)... I think Tszyu will just land BIG BIG shots, and even if some of them are on the arms and gloves, they'll break and slow Mayweather down... Mayweather will realise very early that Tszyu is VERY POWERFULL and will get on his bike!

But I think Tszyu will eventually catch up with him and stop him.

mayweather is too small for 147

I think a fight with Zoo is just a matter of time. I think Floyd will beat Zoo convincingly. He is to fast and to hard to hit. Zoo is a very accurate puncher but i look at the beginning of the Judah fight and Zoo was having trouble with his speed. I know some people will say yeah but he knocked Judah out. This is true but in my opinion he just caught Judah sleeping at it would not happen again. Any way Floyd is faster than judah, harder to hit, and i feel this chin is underated. ;)

Floyd isn't faster than Zab, and Zab is more powerful.

How long did it take Tszyu to neutralize Zab's speed? He landed one semi hard punch near the end of round 1, that was basically the fight. Zab took no more chances.
Unfortunately these guys will never fight though.

Yes, Floyd is faster and he has a better chin.

The big and best fights for Mayweather will be at 147.

Eventually Mayweather will run into Vivian Harris at 140 and that is something that he is avoiding like the black plague.

If he moves to 147 and fights the best that is bigger than anything that could happen at 140. He started his career at 130 and would have moved up just about 20 pounds to take on the bigger guys.

Mayweather is small and I think he will max out at 147 and the bigger names are there and that is where he wants to be at. Mayweather has chased DLH his whole career.

One fight I wish that would have happened at 135 would be a prime shane vs Mayweather.

Damn that would have been great.

mosley won five rounds in the winky fight. he's a bigger guy . pbf would be proven if he somehow won against mosley

I like how most pbf fans think that it's impossible to hit him. It's more impossible to slip and slide every punch thrown at you. pbf may be fast than zoo but zoo will eventually land a punch, and i think thats all he needs to do is land one punch, and pbf will realize what kind a guy zoo is. Zoo is a very smart and patient fighter, he will hit pbf and that will be the end of him.

If you move up to fight Judah, Mosley or DLH at 147, it isn't really avoiding anybody. Its just fighting better guys at a better paying weight division. Besides, Tszyu'll probably move up to Welter FINALLY after he kicks Hatton's ass. That way Zab gets to embarrass Tszyu in the rematch sending Tszyu into retirement.

What are you guys talking about? How can you say someone is ducking people when he is taking on harder fights. What would be harder for Floyd: Harris at 140 or Mosley at 147? Cotto at 140 or DLH at 147? Hatton or Judah? I think Floyd wants the money and the fights. I dont think he will move up unless he fights Oscar but Oscar probally wont but it might change if Floyd beats Gatti and gets alot of pub because then a Oscar and Floyd fight would be huge. He could move up and fight Shane but thats it. He wont fight Zab because they wont give him enough money. I think he would fight Tszyu but it will be almost impossible with the different networks. He could fight Cotto but Arum wont put Cotto in there yet. I think he will fight either Harris and thats a last option because it's not that much money, Shane, or Margarito because they both are with top rank and they were talking about it before