Even thought I love Big Nog, and was secretly of hoping he would win, he got wrecked by this man. The Brock Hunter.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/articlefiles/8960-CainVelasquezDSC_6382UFN14.jpg

:nonono: as much as i am afan of valasquez he would not beat Brock, Lesnar would have put a beating on Nog worse then what Cain did 2nite i guarantee that.

I was very impressed w/ Cain & hold him in higher regards than I did before, But I dont think this means anything in regards to Brock. I mean He did just beat a Legend in Big Nog....But So did Frank and Look what happened to him. It s too realy to tell, He is a very promising young HW and is definitely a threat to anyone in the top 5.

The only way Brock loses is if Mir's new workout **** really works, Kongo magically gets a gsp-like ground game, or if Bobby Lashley comes to play in the UFC.

:nonono: Lashley has no answer for Brock, Kongo will never have a ground game Sadly and Mir will never Beat Brock, but that is the Order, Brock, Mir,Carin, Valasquez & Dos Santos.

Carwin will KO Mir, beat Lesnar and destroy Cain................ yep, it's true.

its only True in Never Never Land im sorry Stalaggh :)

You actually think Mir is going to beat Carwin???!!!!!......... look, Couture managed to stand and trade with Lesnar and Carwin needs one punch to end the fight, plus he is a very powerful wrestler. Cain is good standing, fast, accurate but again the physical power Carwin comes to light....

You'll see come the Mir fight....

Mir's Stand Up is more Technical than Carwins' As Powerful as Carwin is Mir Will counter Cause Carwin will Try and Trade instead of goin for the Takedown.
Mir's Straights and footwork will Win Him the Stand Up.

the only tru threats to brock is carwin and possibly Dos santos. but the biggest threat in the UFC for Brock is Carwin. Cain wouldnt last with carwin

MMA HeavyWeight Rankings.
#1 Brock Lesnar.
#2 Frank Mir.
#3 Cain Valasquez.
#4 Shane Carwin.
#5 Junior dos Santos.
#6 Fedor Emelienenko.
#7 Big Nog.

MMA HeavyWeight Rankings.
#1 Brock Lesnar.
#2 Frank Mir.
#3 Cain Valasquez.
#4 Shane Carwin.
#5 Junior dos Santos.
#6 Fedor Emelienenko.
#7 Big Nog.

how does being 4-1 make you the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world???

Because He beats EVERYONE From 2-7

To my knowledge hes only beat ONE of them. .

MMA HeavyWeight Rankings.
#1 Brock Lesnar.
#2 Frank Mir.
#3 Cain Valasquez.
#4 Shane Carwin.
#5 Junior dos Santos.
#6 Fedor Emelienenko.
#7 Big Nog.

:lol1: :lol1: :lol1:

Prove me Wrong ;)

You can't prove a set of rankings wrong.

lol don't mind me Clegg i've had a few 2nite an still am at a party im just taking time out cause im happy Cain won even though peole said he was all hype and the UFC HWs weren't much.
i know alot of Pride/Nog/Fedor fans are going to come out and say Nog is washed up but againg like i posted earlier what makes Nog any different from Fedor, they both fought roughly the same ammount of fights over sea's and i truly believe if Fedor fought the same guys Nog has fought in the UFC the results would have been the same an he would have lost also, its the passing of the guard/torch and these UFC fighters that people were laughing at last year have come into their own and have proved they are Legit fighters. i'd even lump Gonzaga and Pat Barry into the top fighters in the HW division.

lol don't mind me Clegg i've had a few 2nite an still am at a party im just taking time out cause im happy Cain won even though peole said he was all hype and the UFC HWs weren't much.
i know alot of Pride/Nog/Fedor fans are going to come out and say Nog is washed up but againg like i posted earlier what makes Nog any different from Fedor, they both fought roughly the same ammount of fights over sea's and i truly believe if Fedor fought the same guys Nog has fought in the UFC the results would have been the same an he would have lost also, its the passing of the guard/torch and these UFC fighters that people were laughing at last year have come into their own and have proved they are Legit fighters. i'd even lump Gonzaga and Pat Barry into the top fighters in the HW division.

It's cool. It's nice to see these solid contenders coming on well. Cain, Carwin, Dos Santos are making the division very interesting.

and just to throw this out there...George Sotiropoulis in 3 more fights Beats BJ Penn :)

MMA HeavyWeight Rankings.
#1 Brock Lesnar.
#2 Frank Mir.
#3 Cain Valasquez.
#4 Shane Carwin.
#5 Junior dos Santos.
#6 Fedor Emelienenko.
#7 Big Nog.

You should return back to reality..mir before fedor?? A 4 year old child would put up a more realistic list lol

You should return back to reality..mir before fedor?? A 4 year old child would put up a more realistic list lol

he believes if ur in the UFC you automaticly deserve a top 5 spot.

i believe in Talent And Competition ;) is there an better HW Division outside the UFC?
Strike Force? nope their Division is a Joke, Werdum was made a fool of by Dos Santos but i guarantee you Fedor Fans will pretend and try an make it seem like he's a Top 3-5 contender when fight time comes to try an legitimize their god, just like they did with the sams tire changer he fought last fight.
Dream? nope who's their best HW Minowa? :lol1: Ovareem? maybe he's stand a chance i mean come on no Roid Testing over there so he can drug himself up like a horse an hope for the best but even then his chances of beating a legit HW are slim...don't give me the he ain't roiding speech or i'll jus counter with the why is he avoiding the States like the Plague.
All the HW's outside the UFC would be lucky if they could get Passed Pat Barry or Steven Struve the only top 20 HW's UFC is missing are Arlovski, Sylvia (but they dont' want him back) and Fedor

Brett Rogers was a young, unbeaten heavyweight with some decent wins.
Carwin is a young, unbeaten heavyweight with some decent wins.

If Carwin will be a good win for Mir/Lesnar then surely Rogers is a good win for Fedor?

i believe in Talent And Competition ;) is there an better HW Division outside the UFC?
Strike Force? nope their Division is a Joke, Werdum was made a fool of by Dos Santos but i guarantee you Fedor Fans will pretend and try an make it seem like he's a Top 3-5 contender when fight time comes to try an legitimize their god, just like they did with the sams tire changer he fought last fight.
Dream? nope who's their best HW Minowa? :lol1: Ovareem? maybe he's stand a chance i mean come on no Roid Testing over there so he can drug himself up like a horse an hope for the best but even then his chances of beating a legit HW are slim...don't give me the he ain't roiding speech or i'll jus counter with the why is he avoiding the States like the Plague.
All the HW's outside the UFC would be lucky if they could get Passed Pat Barry or Steven Struve the only top 20 HW's UFC is missing are Arlovski, Sylvia (but they dont' want him back) and Fedor

Struve is ****.

Cain vs Santos would be epic, with brock back the heavyweight division is really lighting up again in ufc

MMA HeavyWeight Rankings.
#1 Brock Lesnar.
#2 Frank Mir.
#3 Cain Valasquez.
#4 Shane Carwin.
#5 Junior dos Santos.
#6 Fedor Emelienenko.
#7 Big Nog.

funniest thing i've read on this site in awhile

MMA HeavyWeight Rankings.
#1 Brock Lesnar.
#2 Frank Mir.
#3 Cain Valasquez.
#4 Shane Carwin.
#5 Junior dos Santos.
#6 Fedor Emelienenko.
#7 Big Nog.

Fedor being that low is criminal.

Cain really impressed me last night though, I thought he would win but also thought it would have been more competitive than that.

He is a serious threat to anyone HW.

Very impressed with this guy.

Who cares, Fedor beats all these guys.

That list is an absolute joke

yeah i say Carwin blasts everyone.

how does being 4-1 make you the #1 ranked heavyweight in the world???

Only in MMA.
He got a title shot at 2-1 lol... :peeright:
Oh, and mind you it wasn't a title shot in some ****ty mid-west ****-tier MMA organization, it was at the UFC, the most prestigious of them all.