Look at Anderson Silva GSP and BJ, they can't be touched. They are so far ahead of their opponents in terms of skill. You could argue that there are fighters at a higher weight class that may be able to match them but the weight classes in UFC have a large disparity between them.

In boxing when ever a dominant fighter rises to the top of a division there is usually always a worthy challenger (whether they fight or not is a different story). Even if a fighter dominates a weight class there is usually a fighter in a division below or above with the necessary skills to challenge them bearing in mind that weight classes in boxing have a lower disparity between them.

Thoughts?

klitschko....

Look at Anderson Silva GSP and BJ, they can't be touched. They are so far ahead of their opponents in terms of skill. You could argue that there are fighters at a higher weight class that may be able to match them but the weight classes in UFC have a large disparity between them.

In boxing when ever a dominant fighter rises to the top of a division there is usually always a worthy challenger (whether they fight or not is a different story). Even if a fighter dominates a weight class there is usually a fighter in a division below or above with the necessary skills to challenge them bearing in mind that weight classes in boxing have a lower disparity between them.

Thoughts?


You're right. The only problem is UFC is a promotion and unlike boxing they do not co-promote. It's like comparing Top Rank to UFC. Imagin if Top Rank fighters could only fight other Top Rank fighters? Another thing is the weight classes. It's easier to move up in weight in boxing and be successful when compared to MMA. Only a handful of MMArtists have title in multiple divisions and to my knowledge nobody has had more than two titles in two different divisions. In boxing you have weight diviosions like Jr Featherweight and Featherweight which is only a 4lb difference. The divisions in UFC are 155, 170, 185, 205, 205+. It's not like boxing where your body matures into the next weight class. In boxing guys usually move up in weight because they can't make weight at the division they're currently in. In MMA you have to make a 15 to 20 pound jump which means you're not fighting at your natural weight and are at a huge disadvantage. Imagin Tim Bradley having to jump up to Middleweight to fight Kelly Pavlik. That's a huge mismatch! Or Manny Pacquiao at SWM to fight Lucian Bute or Andre Ward. And last but not least boxing has been around forever and the level of competition is much higher. In 20 to 30 years I'm sure MMA will be just as competitive and have more weight divisions.

Youd be surpised at all the dominate guys in boxing weight classes that no one wants to fight. Paul Williams scared everyone at 147 and Winky Wright did the same at 154. But Rabbit Punch said it best, the competition level is world wide and is greatly evolved, so there is always gonna be someone out there who got a shot at someone. Pacquiao is looking like the king of boxing but Mosley/Mayweather can beat him but they will go through hell to do so.

klitschko....

Vitali. Haye.

You're right. The only problem is UFC is a promotion and unlike boxing they do not co-promote. It's like comparing Top Rank to UFC. Imagin if Top Rank fighters could only fight other Top Rank fighters? Another thing is the weight classes. It's easier to move up in weight in boxing and be successful when compared to MMA. Only a handful of MMArtists have title in multiple divisions and to my knowledge nobody has had more than two titles in two different divisions. In boxing you have weight diviosions like Jr Featherweight and Featherweight which is only a 4lb difference. The divisions in UFC are 155, 170, 185, 205, 205+. It's not like boxing where your body matures into the next weight class. In boxing guys usually move up in weight because they can't make weight at the division they're currently in. In MMA you have to make a 15 to 20 pound jump which means you're not fighting at your natural weight and are at a huge disadvantage. Imagin Tim Bradley having to jump up to Middleweight to fight Kelly Pavlik. That's a huge mismatch! Or Manny Pacquiao at SWM to fight Lucian Bute or Andre Ward. And last but not least boxing has been around forever and the level of competition is much higher. In 20 to 30 years I'm sure MMA will be just as competitive and have more weight divisions.

Yeah which means demographically speaking there should be more competition in the weight divisions, not less. I think you're missing the points slightly.

Vitali. Haye.

So one person in all of boxing has a real chance of beating them at the moment.?

I think it's fair to say that both sports will run into this problem at times.

BJ there's nobody who you can actually consider a threat to him right now, same with GSP and Silva at middleweight.

Look at Anderson Silva GSP and BJ, they can't be touched. They are so far ahead of their opponents in terms of skill. You could argue that there are fighters at a higher weight class that may be able to match them but the weight classes in UFC have a large disparity between them.

In boxing when ever a dominant fighter rises to the top of a division there is usually always a worthy challenger (whether they fight or not is a different story). Even if a fighter dominates a weight class there is usually a fighter in a division below or above with the necessary skills to challenge them bearing in mind that weight classes in boxing have a lower disparity between them.

Thoughts?

BJ there's nobody who you can actually consider a threat to him right now, same with GSP and Silva at middleweight.

Penn can't beat GSP..... GSP wouldn't beat Silva and Silva has a few guys at lightheavy that can give him trouble.

It's really no different than Joe Louis holding the heavyweight belt for 11 years or Bernard Hopkins holding the middleweight title for 10.

BJ there's nobody who you can actually consider a threat to him right now, same with GSP and Silva at middleweight.

bj can't be touched he's going to have to move back up to welter because no one is gonna beat him at 155.GSP i think can be beat and if silva is still fighting at middle he can't be beat there either but if he's fightin at light heavy i think machida and shogun may be able to beat him

Look at Anderson Silva GSP and BJ, they can't be touched. They are so far ahead of their opponents in terms of skill. You could argue that there are fighters at a higher weight class that may be able to match them but the weight classes in UFC have a large disparity between them.

In boxing when ever a dominant fighter rises to the top of a division there is usually always a worthy challenger (whether they fight or not is a different story). Even if a fighter dominates a weight class there is usually a fighter in a division below or above with the necessary skills to challenge them bearing in mind that weight classes in boxing have a lower disparity between them.

Thoughts?

Vitali Klitchsko
Wlad Klitchsko
Joe Calzaghe (oh, wait, he retired.)
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Poonsawat
Hozumi Hasegawa
Nonito Donaire



Oh wait.... What was your point again???

Vitali Klitchsko
Wlad Klitchsko
Joe Calzaghe (oh, wait, he retired.)
Floyd Mayweather
Manny Pacquiao
Poonsawat
Hozumi Hasegawa
Nonito Donaire



Oh wait.... What was your point again???



Vitali Klitchsko - Haye, Wlad

Wlad Klitchsko - Haye, Vitali

Joe Calzaghe - Chad Dawson, Andre Ward, Glen Johnson, Antonion Tarver (prime), Arthur Abraham

Floyd Mayweather - Manny Pacquiao, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams

Manny Pacquiao - Floyd Mayweather Jr, Timothy Bradley, Shane Mosley, Amir Khan,
Poonsawat - Celestino Caballero, Juan Manuel Lopez, Chris John

Hozumi Hasegawa - Yonnhy Perez, Poonsawat Kratingaenggym,

Nonito Donaire -Koki Kameda, Ivan Calderon,

Oh wait..... What was your boxing knowledge again?

Boxing is becoming the most corrupted sport in the buisness it's all about money now and certain fighters are very well protected by the management.

The good thing about UFC is if you fought your way up you know you will get a shot at the #1.

Vitali Klitchsko - Haye, Wlad

Wlad Klitchsko - Haye, Vitali

Joe Calzaghe - Chad Dawson, Andre Ward, Glen Johnson, Antonion Tarver (prime), Arthur Abraham

Floyd Mayweather - Manny Pacquiao, Shane Mosley, Miguel Cotto, Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams

Manny Pacquiao - Floyd Mayweather Jr, Timothy Bradley, Shane Mosley, Amir Khan,
Poonsawat - Celestino Caballero, Juan Manuel Lopez, Chris John

Hozumi Hasegawa - Yonnhy Perez, Poonsawat Kratingaenggym,

Nonito Donaire -Koki Kameda, Ivan Calderon,

Oh wait..... What was your boxing knowledge again?
Everything you typed is based on speculation since Vitali hasn't lost to any active fighters, neither has Calderon or Calzaghe or Mayweather.

You could speculate that there are legit contenders for the MMA fighters you mentioned as well.

However, in boxing, you're much more likely to have a guy 30-0 than in MMA.

Look at Anderson Silva GSP and BJ, they can't be touched. They are so far ahead of their opponents in terms of skill. You could argue that there are fighters at a higher weight class that may be able to match them but the weight classes in UFC have a large disparity between them.

In boxing when ever a dominant fighter rises to the top of a division there is usually always a worthy challenger (whether they fight or not is a different story). Even if a fighter dominates a weight class there is usually a fighter in a division below or above with the necessary skills to challenge them bearing in mind that weight classes in boxing have a lower disparity between them.

Thoughts?

Everything you typed is based on speculation since Vitali hasn't lost to any active fighters, neither has Calderon or Calzaghe or Mayweather.

You could speculate that there are legit contenders for the MMA fighters you mentioned as well.

However, in boxing, you're much more likely to have a guy 30-0 than in MMA.

Name me a legit contender for BJ, GSP or Silva at middleweight please.

Name me a legit contender for BJ, GSP or Silva at middleweight please.
Worthy is a subjective term. I don't think there's a WORTHY opponent for Calderon at 108 or Mayweather at 147 or Wladimir Klitschko at heavy (when Vitali retires) or Chris John at featherweight for that matter.

Thing is, the Matt Serras do emerge, upsets happen.

Keep in mind also that the 'pool' of boxers is much larger than the MMA pool

I'm actually more a boxing fan than an MMA fan, but I don't see a desparity in 'domination' between the two like you do