Who do you think wins

McClellan's raw agression and skills and power exposes Jones's chin early in his career. G-Man KO 4.

I agree. McClellan wouldn't let Roy play those stupid games and land about 4 shots on Roy's cotton chin, dropping him in the 2nd.

Anyone and everyone who says Roy had a weak chin is a moron. Honestly. The shot from Tarver would have KOed anyone. The shot from Johnson was on the temple, not the chin, and he had been taking shots from Johnson all night. He went down from an accumulation of punishment, topped off by a big left to a wide open temple.

Jones would counter his ass all night to an easy UD. What weapons did McClellan have besides power? Jones was the superior boxer.

Jones at his prime would have been too fast for just about anyone. He had a decent chin, it wasn't glass by any stretch of the imagination, a good punch, and cat-like reflexes. Jones wins UD.

somewhere else there is a post on foster-jones, now that's fight in which jones would be KOed, by the bigger foster (who was also way more skilled than mclellan), not against g-man @160 or @168.

remember that to see jones KOd we had to:
wait until he got old (35)
while fighting above his natural weight

jones @168 would embarass mclellan

somewhere else there is a post on foster-jones, now that's fight in which jones would be KOed, by the bigger foster (who was also way more skilled than mclellan), not against g-man @160 or @168.

remember that to see jones KOd we had to:
wait until he got old (35)
while fighting above his natural weight

jones @168 would embarass mclellan

Yup. Jones wins this one by UD.

McClellan had the superior boxing skills, although Jones Jr may of had the superior strength.

McClellan beat Jones Jr's ass every single time in sparring sessions and in the amateurs, McClellan would of had his ticket.

Roy by ud.

Roy Jones Jr by UD




left hook :cool:

McClellan had the superior boxing skills, although Jones Jr may of had the superior strength.

McClellan beat Jones Jr's ass every single time in sparring sessions and in the amateurs, McClellan would of had his ticket.

What what what? McClellan may have been more technically skilled than Jones was, but he didn't have the better skills.

Sparring sessions don't mean a thing. The amateurs are too different to properly compare them to pro fighting.

Also, McClellan was the harder hitter. He was considered the hardest puncher pound for pound in the world at that time.

McClellan had the superior boxing skills, although Jones Jr may of had the superior strength.

McClellan beat Jones Jr's ass every single time in sparring sessions and in the amateurs, McClellan would of had his ticket.

their golden glive fight was very close, and what I find surprising, I read it was a war...

not to mention you got strength and skill reversed

I like McCllelan he one of the best boxer ever to come out of Illinois.

Jones UD...

McClellan beat Jones once. He'd beat him again!

McClellan beat Jones once. He'd beat him again!

Amateurs and pros are two different things. Completely different fights, even if they're between the same two people.

Amateurs and pros are two different things. Completely different fights, even if they're between the same two people.

Yeah that is true. People should stop saying then that Lennox Lewis would wip Bowe because he beat him in the amateures. But like Jeff Lacy for instance lost in the amateures twice to the guy he just beat Rubin Williams. That was a pretty entertaining fight though.

Amateurs and pros are two different things. Completely different fights, even if they're between the same two people.

Agreed. In the amateurs its about speed and points and power isn't as much of a factor. So, McClellans technique got him the win in the amateurs. If you look at McClellans career as a pro he had power and technique. I'm talking about 1 punch power. Going to the pro was like unleashing McClellan. Roy Jones was/is more of combo ko artist. Since their techniques remained about the same and McClellans got the one punch power; my vote is for McClellan. Thats why I vote McClellan.

Agreed. In the amateurs its about speed and points and power isn't as much of a factor. So, McClellans technique got him the win in the amateurs. If you look at McClellans career as a pro he had power and technique. I'm talking about 1 punch power. Going to the pro was like unleashing McClellan. Roy Jones was/is more of combo ko artist. Since their techniques remained about the same and McClellans got the one punch power; my vote is for McClellan. Thats why I vote McClellan.

tell me more about g-man technique cos it never looked very sharp to me

Don't underestimate McClellan, he had amazing timing.

I think Jones Jr was stronger than McClellan but I would honestly say McClellan could punch better, simple as that. G-Man just knew the right times to unleash punches and hit you in the right places, he was just an awesome puncher - he threw hooks and uppercuts to the body and he threw straighter punches to the head. McClellan had unbelievable ability but didn't use it the way he should of. That's why McClellan split with Manny Steward, it's because Manny wanted Gerald to work on pacing himself in the ring but Gerald just would not listen to Manny so they split. They were at eachothers throats for years.

Manny says that Gerald could of been a better body-puncher than Mike McCallum, he also says that he had the best chin he's ever seen, here's a quote from Manny - "Gerald was 16 years old but he was so assured at that time we had him sparring with Tommy (Hearns), but he wasn't showing any respect in this session and didn't use any composure. So Tommy was jabbing and moving and smiling at Gerald - playing with him. We were asking Gerald to calm down because he was going wild, he was a wild kid. Gerald threw his headgear at Willie (Brown) and ran at Tommy, Tommy by this point was getting pissed. He was enduring Gerald's punches against the ropes, his arm was caught in the rope at one point and if I remember he was spitting out blood. So through adrenalin and survival, Tommy threw his best punch at Gerald. It was such a fierce right hand - Gerald walked straight through it!"

Gerald had the talent, but he didn't have the MIND-set. Jones Jr had the talent (not as much as McClellan) AND the mind-set. In G-Man's mind nobody stood a chance against him and he was very impatient, he just wanted to KO everybody as fast as possible. But Jones Jr was different because he knew how to pace himself and preferred to start slower.

Manny Steward has worked with the likes of Leonard, Hearns, McCallum, Holyfield, Lennox, Hamed etc but Manny says that Gerald McClellan was the most talented fighter he ever worked with. He says that Gerald was the guy who didn't make the most of his talent, mostly due to having the wrong mind-set. Manny also says that Gerald fell short of his potential due to letting Don King guide his career against mostly mediocre opposition (by Gerald's standards), Manny feels that Gerald would of been "without a doubt" the greatest boxer-puncher to ever breathe air if he had stayed at the Kronk and fought better opposition.

Manny feels that Gerald would of developed the best jab in boxing history and would never have lost a boxing match again if he had stayed with him(Manny), stayed clear of Don King and most importantly listened to Manny's instructions.

Remember in 1993 and 1994, Ring Magazine's Middleweight Champion was Gerald McClellan (Roy Jones was number two, G-Man was number one). The reason I choose G-Man over Jones Jr is simple - Roy doesn't have a strong enough chin! He's been KO'd in his last couple of fights by straight rights and nobody threw a straight right like Gerald McClellan did. If anybody could catch Roy cleanly in his prime it was Gerald McClellan.

Roy Jones By UD

He's been KO'd in his last couple of fights by straight rights and nobody threw a straight right like Gerald McClellan did. If anybody could catch Roy cleanly in his prime it was Gerald McClellan.

beeep! wrong! left hook against tarver

but anyway jones was far from his prime

and yes if mcclellan ever developed some kind of discipline he MIGHT have been the one to beat a prime jones, but he did not. he was not a smart fighter. (and I may add if he was, he would have fought very differently against jackson and benn)

just like tyson: believed his own hype and got sucked into fighting according to the hype.

also note how they both parted from their trainers

McClellan is far from having the best straight right in the sport. There are at least 10 guys who possessed a better right hand than he had.

beeep! wrong! left hook against tarver

but anyway jones was far from his prime

and yes if mcclellan ever developed some kind of discipline he MIGHT have been the one to beat a prime jones, but he did not. he was not a smart fighter. (and I may add if he was, he would have fought very differently against jackson and benn)

just like tyson: believed his own hype and got sucked into fighting according to the hype.

also note how they both parted from their trainers

BEEEP! Wrong, it was an overhand left. Tarver and Jones both said so.

BEEEP! Wrong, it was an overhand left. Tarver and Jones both said so.

my bad...
english is not my first language so I don't know what overhand exactly means, I thought it meant a kind of counterpunch and you can hit someone with a more or less straight overhand or a more or less looping overhand and you would still call it straight or hook,

anyway it was definitely not a straight right

my bad...
english is not my first language so I don't know what overhand exactly means, I thought it meant a kind of counterpunch and you can hit someone with a more or less straight overhand or a more or less looping overhand and you would still call it straight or hook,

anyway it was definitely not a straight right

An overhand is a punch. It's almost like a chopped baseball throw. A looping straigh, I guess is what it'd be called. It loops up, instead of to the side.

Through out the history of boxing all boxers have had their arch rival and McClellan was Jones's by far, it began in the amateurs when the two fought and Jones lost twice. Although in the pro's if the two were to fight especially in their prime, Jones with his superior boxing skill as well as speed and stamina would be trouble for the larger slower McClellan. The biggest problem for Jones would be to overcome the fury and power that McClellan had and if the fight went on past the 6th round it would be all Jones which in most of the fans eyes would definately happen. Jones could handle the punishment for the first few rounds if he were to get hit, but with his supreme ability to counter and move he should make it out of the first few rounds which would be his hardest no problem. The fight would be a KO in the later half of the fight with Jones hitting with accuracy as the more tired McClellan taking the punishment.

No way would Jones beat G. This is tyson fanesque delusion.

Anyone and everyone who says Roy had a weak chin is a moron. Honestly. The shot from Tarver would have KOed anyone. The shot from Johnson was on the temple, not the chin, and he had been taking shots from Johnson all night. He went down from an accumulation of punishment, topped off by a big left to a wide open temple.

Even hypothetically if Roy Jones didn't have a bad chin which I think he does. He would have to have an iron chin to take G's shots. Also dont forget McClellan whipped Jones good in a 1988 Golden Glovers tournament.

McClellan by KO.