View Full Version : Joining a Boxing Gym, is it worth it?
DanteCalypso 02-19-2010, 06:05 AM Hey all,
Well I will be joining a local boxing gym pretty soon, the problem im having is i have 2 jobs. It's always good to have two jobs, especially during these times, but i have been wanting to give boxing a try for the longest time. The i was see it is that i will only be able to be at the gym 3 times out of the week for about 4 hours each of these days. Is it worth joining the gym and paying the fees that come along with it?
thanks in advance.
LOCKE 02-19-2010, 06:24 AM I was thinking about this, my local boxing gym is Rooneys in London Bridge, it is £60 a month, whereas my regular gym i go to now is £35, i'm wondering whether it is worth paying the extra £25.
rochemback 02-19-2010, 07:28 AM 3x4 hours/week sounds comfortably worth it, especially for the beginning that's quite a lot if you use the time in the gym well.
Bullrush 02-19-2010, 07:48 AM What in gods name do you do there for 4 hours a day? If the training is somewhat decent and you're not sitting on your ass the whole time you should be done in 60, 75 or 90 minutes. That's a workout for boxing. Do you lift weights after/before the boxing training begins? I mean what do you do there for 4 hours, i don't get it.
And how are we supposed to know whether it's worth it or not if we don't even know the fees you have to pay? If it's around 50 bucks i guess it's worth it since you're spending that much time in the gym.
A shorter, much more intense workout would be better though. Just my opinion.
DanteCalypso 02-19-2010, 09:02 AM What in gods name do you do there for 4 hours a day? If the training is somewhat decent and you're not sitting on your ass the whole time you should be done in 60, 75 or 90 minutes. That's a workout for boxing. Do you lift weights after/before the boxing training begins? I mean what do you do there for 4 hours, i don't get it.
And how are we supposed to know whether it's worth it or not if we don't even know the fees you have to pay? If it's around 50 bucks i guess it's worth it since you're spending that much time in the gym.
A shorter, much more intense workout would be better though. Just my opinion.
Well im not at the gym for 4 hours, i actually havent began. and it's $60 a month. Im just saying that if i can get sufficient training if i only go 3 days out of the week. Sorry for leaving out some of the details. Im actually going in as a beginner. I have a punching bag at home, but thats just for fun.
Bullrush 02-19-2010, 09:16 AM Oh okay. Well 3 days is perfectly fine for a beginner. Like Monday, Wednesday and Friday. That way you can get some rest between every workout. 60 bucks isn't exactly cheap but if you have 2 jobs and if you can afford it, if you like the gym then go for it.
BoxingPromoter 02-19-2010, 09:22 AM I joined a (boxing) gym as well and I make it there once a week- if that. I really need to start going more frequently..
One more round 02-19-2010, 05:15 PM I was thinking about this, my local boxing gym is Rooneys in London Bridge, it is £60 a month, whereas my regular gym i go to now is £35, i'm wondering whether it is worth paying the extra £25.
60 a month? that's like 140 or 150 $ Australian (roughly I think)
Where the hell do gyms get off charging that kind of money for boxing? This is boxing not tennis or golf. This is a cheap sport for poor people.
PAC-BOY 02-19-2010, 05:19 PM depending on the Gym...good luck! IMO..the best thing to do is find a Coach willing to train you that dont have a load of fighters to watch over. one on one is great but a small team is good as well. If you do join a gym its ok to learn the basics and get some sparring in and learn different exercises and techniques.
YoungJab 02-19-2010, 05:26 PM why r ppl payin crazy money this days
i dnt think it should be free but that would be gr8 like the catskills but 2, 3 dollars the max
BoxingPromoter 02-19-2010, 05:52 PM I think I'm being over charged; I pay $109 per month and that's a limited membership...
Baptist 02-19-2010, 06:17 PM this all sounds really pricey, I must be lucky, it only costs me £2 for an hour and a half in the boxing gym....i don't like the sound of these memberships, been conned in that department in the past, never again!
DanteCalypso 02-20-2010, 02:47 AM Well when i think of membership, im thinking of contracts. I think the gym im joining is just $60 cash and when you don't want to go anymore just stop paying. The trainer of the gym is well known and from what he told me that every weekend the boxers there go to competitions and tournaments. I will try it out to see how it goes.
lol at prices, over here it's like 20$/month and after 3 months if you are serious,work hard & don't miss training it's free.
GoogleMe 02-20-2010, 09:05 AM I pay 180 dollars for 1 year, with access to training 5 times a week + all our fighting expenses are paid. And when we go for trainingcamps (Germany and Spain), it's also paid, so all the moey are well given out.
1 HitterQuitter 02-20-2010, 10:44 AM I think I'm being over charged; I pay $109 per month and that's a limited membership...
jeez and you said you only sometimes go once a week? Mine is free except for signing up to compete. I think it depends a lot on the area at which the gym, is located
boxer2k5 02-20-2010, 05:05 PM if you want to box go to a boxing gym. if you jsut want to be in shape go to whatever is convient
kali08 02-20-2010, 06:16 PM well i train 7 days of the week
for about 2 hours everyday
i sometimes take a day off
or just do light workouts
that is why my conditioning has never been a problem but i mean everyone has their own training techniques and that's why boxing is such an exciting sport.
i train at home , my brother trains me and he keeps me in great shape! i would recommend joining a gym if you're young but if you're over 18 i'd suggest training at home. sometimes you can even get a friend to help you out and both of you learn as you go! that is the purpose of amateur boxing , not only for the boxer but for the trainers and etc. !!!!
Walt Liquor 02-20-2010, 10:17 PM Oh okay. Well 3 days is perfectly fine for a beginner. Like Monday, Wednesday and Friday. That way you can get some rest between every workout. 60 bucks isn't exactly cheap but if you have 2 jobs and if you can afford it, if you like the gym then go for it.
What's the training like? Do u have a trainer or are you just part of a class type situation?
60 isn't bad nowadays..
hateinyaeyes32 02-20-2010, 11:33 PM What in gods name do you do there for 4 hours a day? If the training is somewhat decent and you're not sitting on your ass the whole time you should be done in 60, 75 or 90 minutes. That's a workout for boxing. Do you lift weights after/before the boxing training begins? I mean what do you do there for 4 hours, i don't get it.
And how are we supposed to know whether it's worth it or not if we don't even know the fees you have to pay? If it's around 50 bucks i guess it's worth it since you're spending that much time in the gym.
A shorter, much more intense workout would be better though. Just my opinion.
4 hours in the gym going intense is a good workout for boxing, if your using the 4 hours but sitting on your ass a lil bit its not worth it, but 60-90 minutes is a breeze for boxers man i dont know where you got that number from but theres way too much to do in a real boxing workout in just 1 /2 hours.. i workout 3 hours a day easily
hateinyaeyes32 02-20-2010, 11:37 PM Also I pay 40 a month for weights and boxing and good trainers too
Right2TheTemple 02-22-2010, 12:25 AM come on man ..i think he's just a beginner !!
Right2TheTemple 02-22-2010, 12:27 AM here in phils i pay $40 a month = P1600 ! ^_^
rskumm21 03-02-2010, 04:49 PM What in gods name do you do there for 4 hours a day? If the training is somewhat decent and you're not sitting on your ass the whole time you should be done in 60, 75 or 90 minutes. That's a workout for boxing. Do you lift weights after/before the boxing training begins? I mean what do you do there for 4 hours, i don't get it.
And how are we supposed to know whether it's worth it or not if we don't even know the fees you have to pay? If it's around 50 bucks i guess it's worth it since you're spending that much time in the gym.
A shorter, much more intense workout would be better though. Just my opinion.
4 hours is NOT abnormal for serious boxers. You obviously must just box for fun, which is fine, but no serious boxers can get all that they need in a 60-90 minute workout. In total most boxers spend AT LEAST 3 hours of hard training in the gym, and another hour doing roadwork EVERYDAY. That's 4 hours buddy. And many do more. Don't post and give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
Bullrush 03-02-2010, 06:28 PM 4 hours is NOT abnormal for serious boxers. You obviously must just box for fun, which is fine, but no serious boxers can get all that they need in a 60-90 minute workout. In total most boxers spend AT LEAST 3 hours of hard training in the gym, and another hour doing roadwork EVERYDAY. That's 4 hours buddy. And many do more. Don't post and give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
you're a dunce, no offense. if you do 4 hours then you're sitting on your ass half the time. dont say its intense, because its not. your body couldnt survive 4 hours of intense training. and dont throw around with dumb facts that you just made up. a muay thai world champion and a kick boxing champion run our gym, nobody in the gym goes for (much) longer than 90 minutes. let alone 4 hours.
im not saying you cant go 4 hours, im not saying its wrong to do 4 hours. im just saying that 4 hours of INTENSE training each day is horse ****. you probably dont know what intense is. its not sitting around, talking to people, walking around, taking 20 minutes to put on gloves, go drink some water here and there, take a piss, take a brake every 15 minutes and all that ****. but i dont know anything and neither do the guys and coaches that actually have been there and done that (champions). you go on with your 4 hours of "intense training" every day. how are you not a world champion yet? your cardio must be up there with sea biscuit or something
rskumm21 03-02-2010, 11:10 PM 4 hours is NOT abnormal for serious boxers. You obviously must just box for fun, which is fine, but no serious boxers can get all that they need in a 60-90 minute workout. In total most boxers spend AT LEAST 3 hours of hard training in the gym, and another hour doing roadwork EVERYDAY. That's 4 hours buddy. And many do more. Don't post and give advice unless you know what you're talking about.
you're a dunce, no offense. if you do 4 hours then you're sitting on your ass half the time. dont say its intense, because its not. your body couldnt survive 4 hours of intense training. and dont throw around with dumb facts that you just made up. a muay thai world champion and a kick boxing champion run our gym, nobody in the gym goes for (much) longer than 90 minutes. let alone 4 hours.
im not saying you cant go 4 hours, im not saying its wrong to do 4 hours. im just saying that 4 hours of INTENSE training each day is horse ****. you probably dont know what intense is. its not sitting around, talking to people, walking around, taking 20 minutes to put on gloves, go drink some water here and there, take a piss, take a brake every 15 minutes and all that ****. but i dont know anything and neither do the guys and coaches that actually have been there and done that (champions). you go on with your 4 hours of "intense training" every day. how are you not a world champion yet? your cardio must be up there with sea biscuit or something
Learn how to read assclown. And if you knew **** about boxing you'd know that it's not horse ****. To some guys this is their life, not just some fad like it will be for you. If all you train is 60-90 minutes then either it's just a hobby for you or your just a *****. Why do I get the feeling that in your case, it's the latter of the two?
jimmy webb 03-03-2010, 12:11 AM RSKUMM is correct !! Pro - fighters, especially at the elite level do generally train on average 3-4 hours per session(not including the roadwork they do in the morning). Now, I don't know if that's how they train year round or just when they're preparing for a fight. My guess is, the 3-4 hour sessions are when they're deep in training !!
Below is a recent training video of PAC. The interviewer that recorded this made a comment on Yo*tube and stated that PAC had already put in 3 hours prior to him filming this heavy bag routine and that's why we we're not seeing the same energy and explosiveness we're all used to seeing. This interviewer has followed PAC all throughout his other training camps.
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Now, does it mean that every pro-fighter trains 3-4 hours. Maybe not, it depends on that particular fighter's work ethic, what his coach's philosophy is. I heard Emmanuel Steward was/is not big on those long training sessions.
The best person to ask is our very own ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY, he was a former pro boxer who has sparred with some of the sport's best, like RJJ and James Toney.
screwhead1 03-03-2010, 07:11 AM 4 hours in the boxing gym? really? i'd say one in a half to two hours at the most...but not even that unless you're really trying to sweat...pro's do that because they usually have weight to try and cut...a lot of that is to get their bodies re-acclimated to the motions and movements and working off rust...a beginner does not need to do that at all...you wouldn't last...
screwhead1 03-03-2010, 07:15 AM think about what you're doing...a beginner isn't going to go full 3 minute rounds in sparring...they won't be doing 4 rounds on the speed bag...they won't be doing full rounds on the heavy bag...none of that...if you say you went into the gym in your first 3 months and did 4 hours a day...you're lying...
Bullrush 03-03-2010, 08:45 AM 4 hours in the boxing gym? really? i'd say one in a half to two hours at the most...but not even that unless you're really trying to sweat...pro's do that because they usually have weight to try and cut...a lot of that is to get their bodies re-acclimated to the motions and movements and working off rust...a beginner does not need to do that at all...you wouldn't last...
thank you.
@jimmy
we're not talking about training camp here so this comparison doesnt really work. but actually you just proved my point, you can already see in the video how dead tired pacman was after "only" 3 hours. what you see in the video is not what people consider "intense" workout. its just not. you can do this for 4 hours if you want to but this is just not intense. if you dont believe me go pull out tape of manny working the heavy bag in the first hour of his training session and then compare it to what you see in the video. thats a day and night difference. what you see in the video is just him cooling down, he was probably about to wrap up training at that point.
screwhead1 03-03-2010, 10:45 AM pretty much...if you can walk into a boxing gym and do 4 hours of training...you're wasting your time there cause you're already in phenomenal shape...then there is such thing as over training...when i first started at the boxing gym...we did a mile (starting out) after training and before sparring...we'd be so damn tired after running for 15-20 minutes...it wasn't until about a month and a half of that where i could functionally catch my breath and effectively go through rounds after running...
and a trainer wouldn't even allow you to stay there and work yourself that much...after that amount of time...your form and reaction time would be so off that you'd basically just be a sitting duck for someone to hit or you'd just incorrectly hit the bags or mitts repeatedly, causing unnecessary strain or injury...
best thing to do is to work on key basics and build up your cardio for at least a month before you even try to spar...that's going to take at most two hours a day...three days a week...
rskumm21 03-03-2010, 10:50 AM pretty much...if you can walk into a boxing gym and do 4 hours of training...you're wasting your time there cause you're already in phenomenal shape...then there is such thing as over training...when i first started at the boxing gym...we did a mile (starting out) after training and before sparring...we'd be so damn tired after running for 15-20 minutes...it wasn't until about a month and a half of that where i could functionally catch my breath and effectively go through rounds after running...
and a trainer wouldn't even allow you to stay there and work yourself that much...after that amount of time...your form and reaction time would be so off that you'd basically just be a sitting duck for someone to hit or you'd just incorrectly hit the bags or mitts repeatedly, causing unnecessary strain or injury...
best thing to do is to work on key basics and build up your cardio for at least a month before you even try to spar...that's going to take at most two hours a day...three days a week...
You keep on with that buddy see how far that gets you. But if you want to get anywhere, you'll need to dedicate more time. I'm really not going to argue with 2 guys who obviously don't know what the **** they're talking about, or never learned reading comprehension either. Good luck
screwhead1 03-03-2010, 11:35 AM You keep on with that buddy see how far that gets you. But if you want to get anywhere, you'll need to dedicate more time. I'm really not going to argue with 2 guys who obviously don't know what the **** they're talking about, or never learned reading comprehension either. Good luck
I hear ya...but 4 hours is a long ass time...I went to the gym 5 days a week for 2 hours a day and had to really alter my diet cause I was so drained...bit maybe you know something I don't...I'm just saying that around Houston, TX...it's not common to spend 4 hours in a gym...
Oh and I didn't read your first post...so if I'm disagreeing with something else other than the time...I do apologize...
rskumm21 03-03-2010, 12:05 PM I hear ya...but 4 hours is a long ass time...I went to the gym 5 days a week for 2 hours a day and had to really alter my diet cause I was so drained...bit maybe you know something I don't...I'm just saying that around Houston, TX...it's not common to spend 4 hours in a gym...
Oh and I didn't read your first post...so if I'm disagreeing with something else other than the time...I do apologize...
That's cool. Just to reiterate, I said 3 hours in the gym plus an hour of roadwork. Though it's not uncommon for serious boxers to spend even more time then that in the gym on an almost daily basis.
Bullrush 03-03-2010, 05:25 PM What's the training like? Do u have a trainer or are you just part of a class type situation?
60 isn't bad nowadays..
well it really depends, usually we're around 10 guys and we have our 2 coaches there with us depends on what we do that day. and it takes 60-90 minutes usually. i dont understand what people do there for 4 straight hours, like i said one of our coaches is in his early 30s and he was a muay thai world champion, these guys are usually focusin on cardio more than boxers do because they also have to use their legs a lot. this rscum tool obviously doesn't understand the difference between a normal workout and the stuff that you do in camp.
its just hilarious hearing this dunce (rscum) talk about his 25 hours a day "intense" training. here's a guy that sits on his ass half the day posting stuff on this board yet he also does "intense" training for at least 25 hours a day. hell, he probably does more than that. he's not a ***** like everyone else that does only 1-2 hours
Bullrush 03-03-2010, 05:38 PM That's cool. Just to reiterate, I said 3 hours in the gym plus an hour of roadwork. Though it's not uncommon for serious boxers to spend even more time then that in the gym on an almost daily basis.
dude why don't you shut your mouth already. probably has not even seen a gym from the inside and talks about how he sits there doing intense training sessions for at least 4 hours each day.
you saw the video of pacman already being dead tired after 3 hours. after 2 hours he was already done, his intense training was already over at that point. why are you still arguing you imbecile? do you need more evidence? how about frank mir's comments:
Mir seemed annoyed when he addressed the claims of other fighters’ marathon training sessions.
"I hear guys say they train eight hours," he said. "That’s bullsh*t. They don’t train eight hours… it’s not quality training. If I workout two hours in one work out, honestly it’s forty-five minutes of working out. You know what I mean. Let’s be realistic. You have your warm up, your cool down, your breaks, your talking… As far as your heart rate being at 170 and your throwing blows and going at it, that’s forty-five minutes. If you have two workouts a day, that’s an hour and a half. That’s a far cry from eight hours. There’s nobody who’s going four, five days in a row, eight hours a day. I know they can be in the gym. I’m in the gym all day long too. But I’m not training full blast… There’s no way I know of to keep the body from not breaking down...”
just shut up already. go jerk off to the a-team or something, you dont know **** about boxing let alone training or the human body in general
rskumm21 03-03-2010, 05:40 PM well it really depends, usually we're around 10 guys and we have our 2 coaches there with us depends on what we do that day. and it takes 60-90 minutes usually. i dont understand what people do there for 4 straight hours, like i said one of our coaches is in his early 30s and he was a muay thai world champion, these guys are usually focusin on cardio more than boxers do because they also have to use their legs a lot. this rscum tool obviously doesn't understand the difference between a normal workout and the stuff that you do in camp.
its just hilarious hearing this dunce (rscum) talk about his 25 hours a day "intense" training. here's a guy that sits on his ass half the day posting stuff on this board yet he also does "intense" training for at least 25 hours a day. hell, he probably does more than that. he's not a ***** like everyone else that does only 1-2 hours
Please find for me the post where I said that I do all this intense training. Where did I say I train 4 hours let alone 25???Again learn to read dip-****.
iceman1 03-03-2010, 05:50 PM come on guys
Peace man
allow the beef it aint needed
boxers they are professionals, remain disciplined no need to give aggro on the net
PEACE
rskumm21 03-03-2010, 06:02 PM dude why don't you shut your mouth already. probably has not even seen a gym from the inside and talks about how he sits there doing intense training sessions for at least 4 hours each day.
you saw the video of pacman already being dead tired after 3 hours. after 2 hours he was already done, his intense training was already over at that point. why are you still arguing you imbecile? do you need more evidence? how about frank mir's comments:
just shut up already. go jerk off to the a-team or something, you dont know **** about boxing let alone training or the human body in general
Just face it buddy. You're a little kid who just started working out, (probably at L.A.Boxing) that wants to look like you know some **** about the sport. Just based on your comments in the last few days it proves you don't know much. Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge can see that. You don't know that elite athletes train for more than 90 minutes a day, you don't know **** about the benefits of a decent mouth guard over a store bought one, and you won't acknowledge that there is a difference in quality and protection when it comes to certain boxing gear, yet you're on here putting down the advice of knowledgeable posters. On top of that, you have the nerve to give advice when you don't know wtf you're talking about. Some kid that doesn't know any better might listen to the nonsense you post and take it seriously, then end up getting hurt. Please do us all a favor and get a clue. Admit that you're wrong, and be willing to accept the fact than you don't know everything. Actually you pretty much don't know anything when it comes to boxing.
Bullrush 03-03-2010, 06:08 PM Please find for me the post where I said that I do all this intense training. Where did I say I train 4 hours let alone 25???Again learn to read dip-****.
so you do sit on your ass the entire day and then you have the balls to call us ******* for not going 4 (intense) hours each day when the human body is not even able to do that? like i said, you don't know ****. go sit on your ass the entire day and then talk about how people who actually lay it on the line and put the work in are ******* for not doing what you feel like they should be doing since you have so much experience in....sitting on your ass. you should be giving advice on how to avoid ass rashes from sitting on your ass the entire day instead of calling anybody in here a ***** or telling them that this is just a hobby like they are collecting coins or something if they go for 60-90 minutes. you got such a big mouth, you cant back anything up
steeluv 03-03-2010, 06:12 PM there is cheaper boxing gyms in london than that but im not sure which other ones are close to you, cheaper ones available, for them prices u could join duke mckenzies gym a dude with a big name - at herne hill.
Bullrush 03-03-2010, 06:20 PM come on guys
Peace man
allow the beef it aint needed
boxers they are professionals, remain disciplined no need to give aggro on the net
PEACE
this guy has never seen a gym from the inside and if he's gonna talk to me the way he does he shouldn't be expecting me to just brush it off or something. i have never talked to this clown before, he comes out of nowhere blindsiding me and trying to teach me up on how to train and how long to do this and that, meanwhile this guy like i said is just sitting on his ass the entire day. somebody should drag his lazy ass in the ring for 12 rounds of sparring, that would humble him and really help him in the future with the way he talks and thinks how he knows anything about boxing. he thinks watching mayweather fight once a year makes him some sort of expert
how do you respect a guy like that. if he actually used a different routine, doing 4 hours each day, maybe not intense but if he gave it all he had then i could respect that. people train different. im not saying everything i do is correct and thats the way to go. but he just comes out of nowhere, no clue about anything and he calls me and everyone else in here a ***** for doing an hour and a half of intense boxing each day. chump
rskumm21 03-03-2010, 06:21 PM so you do sit on your ass the entire day and then you have the balls to call us ******* for not going 4 (intense) hours each day when the human body is not even able to do that? like i said, you don't know ****. go sit on your ass the entire day and then talk about how people who actually lay it on the line and put the work in are ******* for not doing what you feel like they should be doing since you have so much experience in....sitting on your ass. you should be giving advice on how to avoid ass rashes from sitting on your ass the entire day instead of calling anybody in here a ***** or telling them that this is just a hobby like they are collecting coins or something if they go for 60-90 minutes. you got such a big mouth, you cant back anything up
Never said I didn't box either little boy. You're just assuming things now. I think it's safe to say that I've boxed more rounds in the last month than you have in your entire life. How would you like me to back it up? I don't need to prove a damn thing to you. You're just a little internet tough guy. Do you realize what you're typing or do you just push buttons and hope for the best? Listen man you started by getting on here and downing people without even knowing what you were talking about and you got called out for it. End of story.
iceman1 03-03-2010, 07:14 PM people all i can say is act grown up come on
no need to hate on someone just let it be, and get on with your training, instead of going pyscho on here, go pyscho on the punch bag :)
bless
Hi-Dro 03-05-2010, 09:48 PM yeah its definetly worth it
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