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1SILVA
02-16-2010, 11:43 PM
Just finished watching "Facing Ali." Great documentary about the men who faced Ali. I thought Chuvalo, Norton, Shavers and Lyle all came across as very sincere and insightful. I learned that Norton(who was raising his future NFL star Ken, Jr. by himself) because of his fight with Ali was able to support his son without struggling. Chuvalo's revelation about his family falling apart was gripping, and Lyle and Shavers also were very thankful of the title opportunities given to them by Ali. Frazier still seemed scorned by Ali's verbal abuse, and Foreman as always admitted that Ali beat him both mentally and physically. What were your thoughts of the documentary?

Rolling Stone
02-16-2010, 11:50 PM
i share your thoughts, Norton seemed grateful to Ali because he saved his ass financially, i was shocked when i heard Chuvalo talk about his family, that was a ****ing revelation to me......Frazier did give props to Ali but i don't think he will ever let him down for the verbal abuse he suffered......Leon Spinks was hard to understand but he gave Ali props and i think he even bad mouthed Holmes for claiming he beat Ali.......Also i think Norton was a little confused about which round he broke Ali's jaw.....Ali said he broke his jaw in the 2nd round or so? so i'll stick with that.......overall, great documentary

T3dBundy
02-17-2010, 12:18 AM
i liked the part when norton talked, followed by chuvalo, terrell & cooper.
we see foreman everyday in interviews compared to them, he is saying nothing new.
the movie deserves 10/10, the best ali documentary i would say.

rskumm21
02-17-2010, 12:26 AM
Really good film. It's funny how we have a few thousand posters on here and nobody but you few guys even mentioned the doc. It goes to show you.. Anyway, it was very insightful, and well put together. I felt for all those guys. True champs, all of them.

T3dBundy
02-17-2010, 12:28 AM
Ali said he broke his jaw in the 2nd round or so? so i'll stick with that.......overall, great documentary

i think ali was making an excuse for losing to the underdog norton, norton was allways awkward.
but its closer than i thought it was, most ppl were acting like norton won the fight by 11 rounds to 1 here

Calilloyd
02-17-2010, 12:41 AM
Just finished watching "Facing Ali." Great documentary about the men who faced Ali. I thought Chuvalo, Norton, Shavers and Lyle all came across as very sincere and insightful. I learned that Norton(who was raising his future NFL star Ken, Jr. by himself) because of his fight with Ali was able to support his son without struggling. Chuvalo's revelation about his family falling apart was gripping, and Lyle and Shavers also were very thankful of the title opportunities given to them by Ali. Frazier still seemed scorned by Ali's verbal abuse, and Foreman as always admitted that Ali beat him both mentally and physically. What were your thoughts of the documentary?

I loved it. In fact I just bought it.

T3dBundy
02-17-2010, 12:47 AM
I loved it. In fact I just bought it.

good idea.
amazon.de just has the book facing ali, have to order it from uk :D

sleazyfellow
02-17-2010, 01:17 AM
I think its better than "when we were kings", does the dvd have any special features? Like the full fights?

Princemanzpoper
02-17-2010, 03:46 AM
Other than the documentary showing us what a complete and utter phony "smokey" Joe Frazier is,it was overall a pretty boring and somehwhat depressing documentary.


The day the public stop relying on documentaries for information is the day the world makes one step forward.




Frazier did give props to Ali but i don't think he will ever let him down for the verbal abuse he suffered.


Frazier will give Ali props whenever it's financially suitable to do so.The crocodile tears that Frazier shed may have been stunning to watch to some,but to those who have have took notice of Frazier's recent history and the multiple contradictions he has made.....it was a simple roll of the eyes.

miron_lang
02-17-2010, 04:59 AM
Just finished watching "Facing Ali." Great documentary about the men who faced Ali. I thought Chuvalo, Norton, Shavers and Lyle all came across as very sincere and insightful. I learned that Norton(who was raising his future NFL star Ken, Jr. by himself) because of his fight with Ali was able to support his son without struggling. Chuvalo's revelation about his family falling apart was gripping, and Lyle and Shavers also were very thankful of the title opportunities given to them by Ali. Frazier still seemed scorned by Ali's verbal abuse, and Foreman as always admitted that Ali beat him both mentally and physically. What were your thoughts of the documentary?

Do they have it posted in the net somewhere? Thanks

Rolling Stone
02-17-2010, 05:26 AM
Do they have it posted in the net somewhere? Thanks

yeah mate its been roaming the net for a couple months

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9INENIJ0

miron_lang
02-17-2010, 05:57 AM
yeah mate its been roaming the net for a couple months

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9INENIJ0


Thanks :D


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rskumm21
02-17-2010, 07:59 AM
Thanks :D


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They've also been running in on cable.

GJC
02-17-2010, 12:25 PM
The day the public stop relying on documentaries for information is the day the world makes one step forward.


Hi Poop, you must be running out of combinations there :)
I remember you saying something similar about books too?
Whilst I agree anything you watch and read should be viewed with a pinch of salt it does seem that to ignore everything must give you a pretty closed mind, no?

GJC
02-17-2010, 12:26 PM
Just watched this and enjoyed it. Wonderful to see Chuvalo in such great nick, the man must have the head of a rock to take some of the punishment he did and still be so sharp

1SILVA
02-17-2010, 01:09 PM
Just watched this and enjoyed it. Wonderful to see Chuvalo in such great nick, the man must have the head of a rock to take some of the punishment he did and still be so sharp

Yes, Chuvalo, for a man who took so much punishment in the ring and to have such misery with his personal life, he was sharp and very articulate. He didn't feel sorry for himself and I wish a documentary was done on his life. Original concept, having his opponents dissect their fights. "Facing Ali," is a much watch.

Forza
02-17-2010, 07:06 PM
I'd rate it an 7/10

Too short and it seemed like every fighter had an excuse for losing. But I loved the commentary from those legends.

GJC
02-17-2010, 08:12 PM
I'd rate it an 7/10

Too short and it seemed like every fighter had an excuse for losing. But I loved the commentary from those legends.
7/10 is about right, although too short?
The version I saw was an hour forty which I thought was about right.
Every fighter that ever fought never lost, they were either weight drained lost a home town decision etc etc. Bit like finding a guilty man in prison lol

poet682006
02-17-2010, 09:03 PM
7/10 is about right, although too short?
The version I saw was an hour forty which I thought was about right.
Every fighter that ever fought never lost, they were either weight drained lost a home town decision etc etc. Bit like finding a guilty man in prison lol

Kind of like every troll that runs alts swears up and down he never made an alt :rofl:

Poet