View Full Version : NWO: Joshua Clottey


MurderDeathKill
02-13-2010, 03:35 AM
Ok brothers, I wanna have some neutral talk on this guy. Clottey has handspeed, sick defense, a great chin, every punch but a jab, and a good body attack. I think Clottey is an elite fighter and just gets **** on since he's lost to some titlists. I also believe he'll be outworked to a loss by Pac. But that don't make him garbage.

We know he beat the tar outta Baldo and lost a DQ. Nobody considers that a real loss, and it's only notable because Baldo accidentally stumbled upon the WW crown later.

The Margarito fight was damn good. The guy shouldn't have been *****ing about his hand because **** happens in boxing. Margarito was injured too. Clottey did enough to lose respectably, he wasn't destroyed.

The Zab fight was surprisingly entertaining. Clottey finally delivered as Zab actually has terrible stamina and a worse workrate than Clottey does. He gets the win, which shoulda been a TKO and picks up a belt.

Cintron didn't seem to want any, and disputes on both sides if Clottey, Williams, or HBO was responsible for that fight not happening.

Clottey ditched his strap to fight Cotto, and gave him hell. I had the fight a 6-6 split, but a flash KD edged it for Cotto. Clottey let up in the late rounds.

So this guy is best known for coming up short. But he's no joke and is a legit opponent for Pac. I see no reason to **** on this fight. I give any skilled fighter a chance, although I'm definitely picking Pac to win. What y'all think about this guy?

Clyde Barrow
02-13-2010, 04:52 AM
The only ones discrediting this fight are Floyd stans. The style advantage favors Pac because it's a fireball vs a shell fighter. Doesn't mean Clottey doesn't deserve a shot. Pac has a title and is defending it against a contender, simple as that. Clottey is good, he just won't press when he has to in the championship rounds. This fight will be far better to watch than Pac vs PBF easily. People are just hung up on all the talk about money, which really does my head in. The same ones ****ting on Clottey now were hyping him after the Cotto fight saying he'd been robbed of the decision, and were screaming about how he'd of beaten Margarito if not for the bad hand. If you don't like this fight go watch MMGay FFS.

Spray_resistant
02-13-2010, 03:35 PM
Its a good fight, Clottey is world class and you know he has the ability to do more and maybe 60 more punches and 1 less head but in 3 fights, he could be 38-0 realistically.

There are posters here who just bash him to discredit a Pac win should that happen.

Clyde Barrow
02-14-2010, 10:07 AM
Its a good fight, Clottey is world class and you know he has the ability to do more and maybe 60 more punches and 1 less head but in 3 fights, he could be 38-0 realistically.

There are posters here who just bash him to discredit a Pac win should that happen.

It's irritating mate. Shane is only getting PBF because Berto wasn't available. Who else was there for Pac to fight? The matchup makes sense, is easy to make with no promotional barriers, and will deliver action all the way. I'd like to brush off the posters who are trying to rubbish the fight. Too much complaining from fake fans around here.

Disposable Arts
02-14-2010, 04:48 PM
I like Clottey but I feel his biggest downfall is that he doesn't have that killer instinct in him. As you know in the Cotto fight, he was basically fighting a guy with one eye and didn't ever use that to his advantage to beat Cotto convincingly.. Its just seems to me like Clottey gets bored during fights at times and doesn't give 100%. To me the Pac fight is a good fight because Pac will make Clottey work whether he wants to or not.

People who complain about the fight talk like Pac-Mosley was a possibility when it wasn't and when Berto bowed out, Pac-Clottey was already in motion. Deep down, I know Mayweather fans are a lil embarassed that Mayweather hasn't fought a real welter, while Pac is fighting Cotto (albeit at 145) and Clottey back to back. I pick Money May over Pac, I just think with all the BS during negotiations, Arum will have Pac against Margs next, and then just keep fighting Top Rank fighters.

MurderDeathKill
02-15-2010, 04:04 PM
Its a good fight, Clottey is world class and you know he has the ability to do more and maybe 60 more punches and 1 less head but in 3 fights, he could be 38-0 realistically.

There are posters here who just bash him to discredit a Pac win should that happen.

Pac is the WBO WW titleholder. Clottey is the WBO #1 WW contender. Pac-Floyd was off, Shane's fighting Floyd, Berto left then came back talking about a Paulie fight, and Clottey and Pac are both with Top Rank. The fight makes sense. It's gonna be a crowd pleaser. No reason to ***** about it unless you're not a boxing fan. Floyd stans on this site are pathetic.

lanigav
02-15-2010, 04:27 PM
People are irritated, because they wanted to see Mayweather-Pac more, which obviously makes the most sense.

Funny thing, but Clottey used to have a very good jab in some fights. He was just sparingly using it though.

Clyde Barrow
02-16-2010, 02:31 AM
People are irritated, because they wanted to see Mayweather-Pac more, which obviously makes the most sense.

Funny thing, but Clottey used to have a very good jab in some fights. He was just sparingly using it though.

Clottey is scarce with jabs. He just gets close to throw flurries most of the time. A jab would obviously help him since he's flat footed, especially against a speedster like Pac.

The Scientist
02-16-2010, 11:42 AM
Tough as nails Ghanaian with a good high gaurd defence.

Has great stamina, chin, could add more to his offensive arsenal.

I like his matchup with Pac. I'd like to see how his toughness endures Pac offence.

rocky_balboa23
02-16-2010, 11:45 AM
I think Clottey has a very good chance of an upset. He can frustrate his opponents because most of the opponents punches dont seem to hurt him. He also has good combos. Not to hate on floyd, but i think Clottey throws much better combos than Floyd. Floyd is just accurate.

Walt Liquor
02-16-2010, 12:17 PM
clottey is wide open when he punches, I mean wide open for a counter. no one is mentioning this, but I think that's when pac is gonna catch him.

this is a great fight. i can't wait

Akinapepemo
02-16-2010, 01:44 PM
I'm a fan of Pacquiao, but i seriously doubt he floors Clottey. The Ghanian is too tough. I see this one going to the cards.

I don't mind the *****s bashing this fight, as someone already pointed out, Clottey is the #1 contender for Pacquiao's WW belt. Those same *****s who praise Floyd for fighting Shane like it was unprecidented (WW fighting a WW? OMG give props!), would find a way to **** on Pacquiao if he fought Shane instead.

These are two good fights. As a boxing fan, i'm happy.

Akinapepemo
02-16-2010, 01:45 PM
Anyone see how would it happen if it turns out to be a Clottey upset?

lanigav
02-16-2010, 02:45 PM
Clottey is scarce with jabs. He just gets close to throw flurries most of the time. A jab would obviously help him since he's flat footed, especially against a speedster like Pac.

I think his lead right will help him, chances are that Roach will be getting Pacquiao to time Clottey.

F l i c k e r
02-16-2010, 03:49 PM
The only problem with Clottey is that he has no killer instinct.

The dude has a granite chin, fort knox defense, and decent technical ability. However, he never goes for the kill. He had Cotto hurt a couple times, had him on his horse and exhausted. Cotto looked like he was fighting Margarito again. But what did Clottey do? He decided to one shot Cotto in the late round. When Cotto would try a desperation punch, Clottey would shell up and let Cotto retreat a few feet only to throw one shot and repeat.

Clottey is a good fighter. No doubt about it. He lacks the ability to put his opponents down. As if he doesn't really want to hurt people.

When he fights Pacquiao. Pacquiao will have a retarded work rate, like Margarito's but faster. So I expect to see Clottey in his shell for most of the fight and then letting off a stiff jab or a basic 1-2. With the fight ending as a UD for Pacquiao. If Clottey's offense was as good as his defense. Pacquiao wouldn't escape the first half of the fight. But because Clottey is basically a two legged tortoise, he wont win.

I don't expect him to get kayo'd though, if Clottey gets kayo'd Pacquiao must be dirty. I don't want to hijack the thread or get off topic but Marg, Cotto, and Coralles couldn't kayo this guy, but a former featherweight champ can? There is something wrong with that picture of Clottey gets kayo'd.

ny123
02-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Finally a decent thread with some common sense being used. clottey is a real threat to anyone at 147 if you were to just read most threads and articles and not actually watch any clottey fights you would think pac was fighting alfonso gomez. Clottey is a good combination puncher with a tight defense solid chin and above average hand speed although his workrate is not great his connect percentage is usually pretty high and even though he doesnt possess great one punch ko power he seems to be a strong thudding puncher who wont be walked through. .... solid ww test for pac.

Walt Liquor
02-16-2010, 05:30 PM
I think his lead right will help him, chances are that Roach will be getting Pacquiao to time Clottey.

you are correct sir. clottey can be timed, which is his other problem flicker, besides the killer instinct thing.

I think Clottey is world class, but I don't see him catching up with manny enough to hurt him in this fight. when clottey opens up manny should be gone already. or ready to time him.

MANGLER
03-02-2010, 02:39 AM
Clottey's a good fighter. Nothin wrong wit Pac fightin him. Just *****es doin what they do in NSB. **** em.

Walt Liquor
03-02-2010, 11:34 AM
this cat that works with my boy writes for a boxing website on the side and he interviewed clottey at his training camp this past weekend. here are a few interesting tidbits:

1) Clottey hasn't watched any film on Pac (big mistake)
2) Clottey's trainer is also his cutman.
3) They have no plan B.

So Pac's las tcouple of opponents say pac is waaay faster than they expected, yet they are watching no fight film??????? And they have no backup, Clottey is going to do what he does, if pac deals with it, then you know he's just going to stop throwing punches and go into his shell like he has in the past.

Clottey is a bug strong dude, but pac has the speed and power punch in this fight. I say manny takes over in the mid rounds and wins by late tko or decision.

Hi-Dro
03-06-2010, 08:34 AM
I'm a fan of Pacquiao, but i seriously doubt he floors Clottey. The Ghanian is too tough. I see this one going to the cards.

I don't mind the *****s bashing this fight, as someone already pointed out, Clottey is the #1 contender for Pacquiao's WW belt. Those same *****s who praise Floyd for fighting Shane like it was unprecidented (WW fighting a WW? OMG give props!), would find a way to **** on Pacquiao if he fought Shane instead.

These are two good fights. As a boxing fan, i'm happy.

i think pac will floor clottey atleast once in the fight

but clottey is a strong mofo so maybe it wont happen

MurderDeathKill
03-13-2010, 02:59 PM
Tonight's the night. It's gonna be a good fight. This has got to be Clottey's last chance if he blows it. TBH, I wouldn't mind seeing him win it. I just hope the decision is fair if it goes 12, and if it does, the loser doesn't *****. If Clottey turns in another 3/4 then stop throwing performance and loses, **** him. He better not complain. I'm hoping like hell Clottey gives it 100% this time. I believe in his ability even though I'm picking Pac by UD. Here's to the fight guys. :beerchug:

Walt Liquor
03-13-2010, 03:38 PM
Tonight's the night. It's gonna be a good fight. This has got to be Clottey's last chance if he blows it. TBH, I wouldn't mind seeing him win it. I just hope the decision is fair if it goes 12, and if it does, the loser doesn't *****. If Clottey turns in another 3/4 then stop throwing performance and loses, **** him. He better not complain. I'm hoping like hell Clottey gives it 100% this time. I believe in his ability even though I'm picking Pac by UD. Here's to the fight guys. :beerchug:

pac by tko here

Mr.Crust
03-13-2010, 03:58 PM
Pac should win handily,but I gotta confess to supporting Clottey tonight,as the guy took time out of his training camp and wrote to my son giving him advice and wishing him well with his boxing. The kid has felt 10 feet tall since then so its a case of 'WAR CLOTTEY!!!' in this house tonight!

Mr.Crust
03-13-2010, 04:02 PM
Ok brothers, I wanna have some neutral talk on this guy. Clottey has handspeed, sick defense, a great chin, every punch but a jab, and a good body attack. I think Clottey is an elite fighter and just gets **** on since he's lost to some titlists. I also believe he'll be outworked to a loss by Pac. But that don't make him garbage.

We know he beat the tar outta Baldo and lost a DQ. Nobody considers that a real loss, and it's only notable because Baldo accidentally stumbled upon the WW crown later.

The Margarito fight was damn good. The guy shouldn't have been *****ing about his hand because **** happens in boxing. Margarito was injured too. Clottey did enough to lose respectably, he wasn't destroyed.

The Zab fight was surprisingly entertaining. Clottey finally delivered as Zab actually has terrible stamina and a worse workrate than Clottey does. He gets the win, which shoulda been a TKO and picks up a belt.

Cintron didn't seem to want any, and disputes on both sides if Clottey, Williams, or HBO was responsible for that fight not happening.

Clottey ditched his strap to fight Cotto, and gave him hell. I had the fight a 6-6 split, but a flash KD edged it for Cotto. Clottey let up in the late rounds.

So this guy is best known for coming up short. But he's no joke and is a legit opponent for Pac. I see no reason to **** on this fight. I give any skilled fighter a chance, although I'm definitely picking Pac to win. What y'all think about this guy?
He reminds me in a lot of ways of Sakio Bika. He is not particularly refined,but even the best fighters dont get to take liberties against him without it going unpunished.

If Pacquiao has overlooked him or not taken him seriously,then he is going to have a very uncomfortable night.

MANGLER
03-16-2010, 01:17 AM
Damn Clottey, just damn. :grumble: