Joey Giardello
02-12-2010, 08:28 PM
This should be an intresting thread.
For me Robinson prime was from his lightweight days right up until the joey maxim fight
For me Robinson prime was from his lightweight days right up until the joey maxim fight
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View Full Version : Which one of these fighters has the best chance of Stopping a prime Ray Robinson? Joey Giardello 02-12-2010, 08:28 PM This should be an intresting thread. For me Robinson prime was from his lightweight days right up until the joey maxim fight .Paulie. 02-12-2010, 08:50 PM Probaly a tie between Archie and Ketchel. Paulie mickey malone 02-12-2010, 11:12 PM Probaly a tie between Archie and Ketchel. Paulie It takes a stylist to beat a stylist, so i'll edge towards Charles on this one.. Although i think his best weight was light-heavy, his MW career, during which he was serially avoided, was interupted by 4 years of national service duties.. Ketchell would have to be the 'punchers chance' nomination, but i don't see him being able to outbox Robinson.. Moore at his best weight also stands a very good chance, but he'd need to drag Robinson into a war, and i don't see a prime Ray falling for it.. Billy Conn and Jimmy Bivins, i feel would give him fits before being taken to school down the late stretch, but i'd say he stands a good chance of stopping the rest.. sonnyboyx2 02-13-2010, 03:49 AM None... no fighter ever KOd Sugar Ray Robinson so why try to belittle the greatest fighter who ever lived with hyperthetical nonsense of coulda, woulda shouda drivel.. the truth is that Robinson would most proberbly KO all those fighters wmute 02-13-2010, 04:58 AM None... no fighter ever KOd Sugar Ray Robinson so why try to belittle the greatest fighter who ever lived with hyperthetical nonsense of coulda, woulda shouda drivel.. the truth is that Robinson would most proberbly KO all those fighters get off the pipe wmute 02-13-2010, 05:01 AM Moore and Charles at LHW definitely have a chance. They are both bigger, Moore's stoppage record is well known, and Charles is one of the closest things to a larger Robinson you can think of. JAB5239 02-13-2010, 05:22 AM Moore and Charles at LHW definitely have a chance. They are both bigger, Moore's stoppage record is well known, and Charles is one of the closest things to a larger Robinson you can think of. I'd give both Charles and Burley a good chance of turning this trick. I don't think he could stop him, but a Greb fight would be very interesting considering all the problems Ray had with Basilio. wmute 02-13-2010, 06:16 AM I'd give both Charles and Burley a good chance of turning this trick. I don't think he could stop him, but a Greb fight would be very interesting considering all the problems Ray had with Basilio. You think Burley could stop Robinson? Burley was great, but I just can't see someone without a relevant size advantage doing that. I think many of the name in that list could beat Robinson IMO (Greb would be one of those I believe), but stopping him... different story. EzzardFan 02-13-2010, 07:21 AM I voted Charles, but really it was a tie between him and Greb. Ketchel probably wouldn't have stood a chance. Fighting Marine 02-13-2010, 08:34 AM None... no fighter ever KOd Sugar Ray Robinson so why try to belittle the greatest fighter who ever lived with hyperthetical nonsense of coulda, woulda shouda drivel.. the truth is that Robinson would most proberbly KO all those fighters i agree with this guy......Light Heavyweights outweighing Robinson by 20+ pounds couldn't even knock him out so how would any of these punks do it? i realise this is hypothetical by you are demeaning the great man by even thinking a fighter has a chance at knocking him out in HIS PRIME..... JAB5239 02-13-2010, 09:26 AM You think Burley could stop Robinson? Burley was great, but I just can't see someone without a relevant size advantage doing that. I think many of the name in that list could beat Robinson IMO (Greb would be one of those I believe), but stopping him... different story. You could very well be right. Burley, when not have problems with his hands could punch though. He did have enough power to lay Elmer "Violent" Ray out cold in sparring with one punch after Ray tried to get rough and show him up. Im not saying it would happen, but I'd give him a chance. Silencers 02-13-2010, 09:57 AM I'd say Ketchel, Moore and Charles have the best chances. Ketchel and Moore were great punchers, Charles had power, speed and skills at his very best so he would be a very dangerous fight for Robinson. TheGreatA 02-13-2010, 10:52 AM Early 1950's Moore could repeat what Maxim did except even without the heat. He was great at wearing down opponents over 15 rounds. wmute 02-13-2010, 12:32 PM You could very well be right. Burley, when not have problems with his hands could punch though. He did have enough power to lay Elmer "Violent" Ray out cold in sparring with one punch after Ray tried to get rough and show him up. Im not saying it would happen, but I'd give him a chance. Burley was indeed a very dangerous fighter. It's hard to determine this, I don't think it's completely impossible, but I see Robinson being tough enough to not stay down, unless he was caught by some big hitter from a higher weight class. At welter-middle, I can see him getting knocked down, but out I don't know, he seemed to always get up, even when he was way past his prime. #1Assassin 02-13-2010, 01:04 PM ezzard charles or archie moore, i voted for charles. them_apples 02-13-2010, 01:59 PM This should be an intresting thread. For me Robinson prime was from his lightweight days right up until the joey maxim fight Archie Moore. In fact, I'd bank on him stopping Robinson. Jim Jeffries 02-13-2010, 02:38 PM Not sure why you'd match him with LHWs, I think he was past his prime by the time he moved up that high, and if you did, I'd include guys like Bob Foster, maybe Dwight Muhammad Qawi or Matthew Saad Muhammad. And Tommy Hearns or Tito Trinidad at WW maybe. Just throwing them in the mix, not saying they'd stop SRR. wmute 02-13-2010, 04:30 PM Not sure why you'd match him with LHWs, I think he was past his prime by the time he moved up that high, and if you did, I'd include guys like Bob Foster, maybe Dwight Muhammad Qawi or Matthew Saad Muhammad. And Tommy Hearns or Tito Trinidad at WW maybe. Just throwing them in the mix, not saying they'd stop SRR. I share your surprise on the 175ers being there, but I think that the TS included them as a tribute to Robinson toughness. Both Hearns and Tito would get obliterated IMO. They were never dominant MWs, Robinson was, and while they might have had some power advantage, Robinson was leagues ahead in terms of chin. JAB5239 02-14-2010, 03:38 AM Burley was indeed a very dangerous fighter. It's hard to determine this, I don't think it's completely impossible, but I see Robinson being tough enough to not stay down, unless he was caught by some big hitter from a higher weight class. At welter-middle, I can see him getting knocked down, but out I don't know, he seemed to always get up, even when he was way past his prime. I agree it is very hard to determine. Im basing my opinion on Burley's power to ko much bigger men and the testimonial of Men like Eddie Futch, who held Burley in such high regard. Like I said I give him a chance, but who the hell really knows. :dunno: GJC 02-14-2010, 12:33 PM Looking at the options on the poll I'd give Moore a good chance at Light Heavy of KO'ing SRR, Charles at Light Heavy but maybe not at middle. Can't see any of those KO'ing SRR at welter or middle to be honest but I think with a lenient referee Greb would have a good chance at TKO'ing SRR. Ketchell had incredible power but Robinson had one hell of a good chin. Few options on there I wouldn't even put at the races, Conn was a fantastic fighter but stopping SRR? No chance. |