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I agree completely. Big L takes my #1 spot (depending on what mood I'm in)

sorry but big L not even top ten all time

big l was good, my 2nd favourite behind nas, but in terms of greatness, nas is light years ahead, seriously man

That freestyle has always been a favorite of mine... And I'm not saying that Big L wasn't talented, he was incredibly talented. But I can't bring myself to call either of Big L's albums "classic". And Nas wins there, everytime.

Edit: But your avatar is smoking!

ABC

not at all

Big L has one album, lifestyles of the poor and dangerous

The Big picture was posthumous. Based on that alone Nas is light years ahead

As far as lyrical ability its close but I'll give it to Nas overall because he's got more high quality material

In fact all time I rate Big L sixth after Pac, Jay, BIG, Nas and Scarface

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Big L beats Nas in voice and flow. Nas beats L in everything else.

How many classic albums does Big L have?

Nas has two classic albums, illmatic and lost tapes.

who the **** is L? **** L..... nas owns dat cunt!

How many classic albums does Big L have?

Nas has two classic albums, illmatic and lost tapes.


Nas only has two classics?

:ugh:

And L has, I dunno if you wanna call 'em classics, but two solid efforts.

"Lifestyles Ov Da Poor And Dangerous"

And his posthumous release, "The Big Picture"

L didint have a chance to be a legend... his life ended short...

I can't believe that the thread starter is serious.

Actually, wait. Its Stoneroses. So yea, I do believe it.

I can't believe that the thread starter is serious.

Actually, wait. Its Stoneroses. So yea, I do believe it.

What I can't believe is that people are actually arguing with Stone Roses about hip hop.

What I can't believe is that people are actually arguing with Stone Roses about hip hop.

Yea I was thinkin the same thing.

What I can't believe is that people are actually arguing with Stone Roses about hip hop.
even though Big L only released 1 album when he was alive and even though he was mainly an underground rapper, i still believe he had more skills than Nas

I can't believe that the thread starter is serious.

Actually, wait. Its Stoneroses. So yea, I do believe it.
i am dead serious mate....i have heard every Big L song, the mans a genius

who the **** is L? **** L..... nas owns dat cunt!
who is L??? go shoot yourself in the foot

As a big Hip Hop fan I have to strongly disagree with this. I like Big L's lyrics a whole bunch and he's not even in my top 10, Nas is my number 1.

Nas and Big L have two different styles. It's hard to say who's better. I think Big L might be a little better than Nas, but Nas is still a legend and he can definetly compete with L.

Nas only has two classics?

:ugh:

And L has, I dunno if you wanna call 'em classics, but two solid efforts.

"Lifestyles Ov Da Poor And Dangerous"

And his posthumous release, "The Big Picture"Good albums, but not certified classics. You need classics to be compared to other greats.

Yes, Nas has only two classics with some very good albums and some very bad albums.

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except a sensational catalogue...but it's whatever...

Good albums, but not certified classics. You need classics to be compared to other greats.

Yes, Nas has only two classics with some very good albums and some very bad albums.

I personally think Nas has only one classic album.

I personally think Nas has only one classic album.What album?

Illmatic, Lost tapes, and some people argue Stillmatic is a classic.

What album?

Illmatic, Lost tapes, and some people argue Stillmatic is a classic.

Illmatic. Stillmatic is no more of a classic than lifestyles and lost tapes is borderline imo.

I mean what defines a 'Classic" album, though?

There's no real definition.

Something that can't be denied, though, is that Nas' catalog is amazing.

Illmatic. Stillmatic is no more of a classic than lifestyles and lost tapes is borderline imo.

It was written is so overlooked it's not even funny. The Message, Gave you Power etc etc etc etc.

People fail to realize that there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinions. There are no facts. A classic album is whatever you think is a classic album not what everyone thinks is classic.

People fail to realize that there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinions. There are no facts. A classic album is whatever you think is a classic album not what everyone thinks is classic.

Indeed. I mean personally I think Funcrusher Plus is a true classic and better than anything Nas has released.

Indeed. I mean personally I think Funcrusher Plus is a true classic and better than anything Nas has released.

Lifestylez is a classic,

So is D.I.T.C worldwide

and nas illmatic, nas it was written lost tapes stillmatic are clasics and gods son is borderline classic.

i think Nas wins just on volume of material, but Big L had skills.

Best quality of Big L was his persona. He was an entertainer. He had hilarious punchlines---"A girl asked me for a ring, so I put one around her whole eye" "putting more holes in a ***** than a golf course"
And he told wildly entertaining stories of crimes throughout his first album, like on the song Lifestyles of the poor and dangerous-- "I used to have a partner in crime by the name of chuck
We stalked the city, shootin **** up like frank nitty
We robbed kids and split the dough 50/50
One day we stuck a dice game on the ave. and split the cash
Then I murdered his ass and took his half
Because I'm all about ends and skins
When you got those, you don't need no mutha****in friends"

"Always sprayin tecs, because I be stayin vexed
Some ***** named dex, was in the projects layin threats
I jumped out the lincoln, left him stinkin
Put his brains in the street
Now you can see what he was just thinkin"


He just had such off the wall material that you can't help but laugh or be entertained when you hear his stuff. He's probably the most entertaining rapper I can think of.

I like this one

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People fail to realize that there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinions. There are no facts. A classic album is whatever you think is a classic album not what everyone thinks is classic.

Illmatic is undeniably a classic. I mean you have the Hip Hop haters(Rolling Stone) who give almost every hip hop album 2 stars, Rolling Stone gave Illmatic 5 stars. Rolling Stone gave It Was Written 4 stars, Allmusic also gave it 4 stars and Allmusic gave Illmatic 5 stars. I Am.. got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, Street's Disciple got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, Hip Hop Is Dead got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, and N!gger got 4 stars from Rolling Stone. I mean when you have Hip Hop haters, praising you and you're not even a commercial rapper...that says everything.

People fail to realize that there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinions. There are no facts. A classic album is whatever you think is a classic album not what everyone thinks is classic.

i disagree. i think that when it comes to defining a classic album there is certain criteria that cannot really be disputed. i think that for an album to be considered classic it has to have influenced the genre. whether or not an album is influential is not really about someone's opinion.

i agree that there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinions, but allow your personal taste to determine which albums are your favorite, not which albums you consider classics. in that case, then you can call the album a "personal" classic.

I've heard that before but most people will argue Nas has to much material for that to hold weight.

i disagree. i think that when it comes to defining a classic album there is certain criteria that cannot really be disputed. i think that for an album to be considered classic it has to have influenced the genre. whether or not an album is influential is not really about someone's opinion.

i agree that there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinions, but allow your personal taste to determine which albums are your favorite, not which albums you consider classics. in that case, then you can call the album a "personal" classic.

How can they not be disputed? Are you saying that opinions on art can be factualized? I don't agree with that because I fail to realize how one opinion or a cluster of opinions is somehow more right than another opinion when all they are are opinion. People hold certain things to be more important than others. Influence is not something that originates from fact. Influence comes from opinions.

Also, just because a lot of people share an opinion on one thing does not make that opinion more relevant because quantity does not equate to quality.


I don't know how you can objectify an opinion. I don't think it's right.

Illmatic is undeniably a classic. I mean you have the Hip Hop haters(Rolling Stone) who give almost every hip hop album 2 stars, Rolling Stone gave Illmatic 5 stars. Rolling Stone gave It Was Written 4 stars, Allmusic also gave it 4 stars and Allmusic gave Illmatic 5 stars. I Am.. got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, Street's Disciple got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, Hip Hop Is Dead got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, and N!gger got 4 stars from Rolling Stone. I mean when you have Hip Hop haters, praising you and you're not even a commercial rapper...that says everything.

It's a classic because other people say so? That's a followers way of thinking. The only thing that is a classic is what you believe is a classic. Opinions are relative.

illmatic,god's son and it was written>>>> lifestylez ov da poor & dangerous
u cant compare a rapper who had one good album to nas who got a list of classic and good albums

nas
rakim
common
jayz
big daddy kane
kool g rap
biggie
eminem
big pun
ll cool j
az
GZA
Redman
Ice Cube
Masta Ace
Method Man

i put all these guys ahead of L

i like big L and he is a hip hop legend but the guy been overrated by alot of people

Illmatic is undeniably a classic. I mean you have the Hip Hop haters(Rolling Stone) who give almost every hip hop album 2 stars, Rolling Stone gave Illmatic 5 stars. Rolling Stone gave It Was Written 4 stars, Allmusic also gave it 4 stars and Allmusic gave Illmatic 5 stars. I Am.. got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, Street's Disciple got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, Hip Hop Is Dead got 4 stars from Rolling Stone, and N!gger got 4 stars from Rolling Stone. I mean when you have Hip Hop haters, praising you and you're not even a commercial rapper...that says everything.

Just saying.

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"Illmatic" is definitely a classic, though.

LOL.

One of the only reasons I remembered the Rolling Stones score is because I thought no doubt that it should have been 5 stars.

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best L song

sorry but big L not even top ten all time

Of course, his life was cut very short.

I like this one

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One of my favorite freestyles. :fing02: Big L is spitting fire and Jay-Z sounds like a ****ing joke. :lol1:

"bitty boom boom bam, what are you *****s gone do to tha man." ??? WTF? "let me take a little break.. ah,... god damn."

illmatic,god's son and it was written>>>> lifestylez ov da poor & dangerous
u cant compare a rapper who had one good album to nas who got a list of classic and good albums
nas
rakim
common
jayz
big daddy kane
kool g rap
biggie
eminem
big pun
ll cool j
az
GZA
Redman
Ice Cube
Masta Ace
Method Man

i put all these guys ahead of L

i like big L and he is a hip hop legend but the guy been overrated by alot of people

This is where things become unfair, because Big L was killed after his first album. You can only judge him by what he did when he was alive.


My favorite songs from Big L are alone, how will I make it, dangerzone, big picture intro, lifestyles of the poor and dangerous, casualties of a dice game, ebonics, devil's son, devil's son live.. and numerous other freestyles of his.

The dude was a monster.

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probably when it comes to free style hes better

Just saying.

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"Illmatic" is definitely a classic, though.

LOL.

One of the only reasons I remembered the Rolling Stones score is because I thought no doubt that it should have been 5 stars.
do you believe Rolling Stone magazine gave Michael Jackson's thriller 4 stars???? don't pay attention to Rolling Stone magazine's ratings because these album reviewers are full of ****e

Big L was wicked, I used to have one of his mixtapes, but I can't find it.

Just saying.

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"Illmatic" is definitely a classic, though.

LOL.

One of the only reasons I remembered the Rolling Stones score is because I thought no doubt that it should have been 5 stars.


Crack, check Rolling Stone's rating for Illmatic as of 2004. It's 5 stars my man. You got the old ratings from 1994.

Lol I would not say something like that if it is not true. Rolling Stone gave some Nas album 2-3 stars when they came out but if you see the ratings now they're mostly 4-4.5 stars. I go by what they rate at the end of the day.

Crack, just like I said, but I can't link right now because i'm on a proxy. Rolling Stone gave It Was Written 2 stars in 1996. As of 2004 it's a 4 star album from Rolling Stone.

This one is hard to call. Illmatic IMO was one of the best albums to ever come out of hip hop, but Big L could spit better than NAS. I pretty much have every song from both artists on my ipod.

i personally don't like nas' style but i respect him..big L is great..the true hip hop for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeK2hFGdt_w

It was written is so overlooked it's not even funny. The Message, Gave you Power etc etc etc etc.

Take it in blood, it was written is a classic album

i personally don't like nas' style but i respect him..big L is great..the true hip hop for me
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no doubt bro