NEWS FLASH
WBC to review Corrales-Castillo!
Citing "furor" about the Diego Corrales-Jose Luis Castillo clash, the WBC is naming a committee to review the fight. A WBC press release states, "There have been many protests from most of the press in Mexico and Latin America, as well as the Federal Boxing Commission in regards to the performance of the referee, who, among other things, let approximately 40 seconds go from the moment of the second knockdown to the continuing of the action in the tenth round....The lightweight championship of the world was held under the trademark of the WBC, and is our obligation to respond to all matters that receive a request, and we think that there was something that was done wrong. It is our obligation to those who trust the WBC's impartiality, rules, and actions."Corrales promoter Gary Shaw was outraged by the WBC's announcement and stated, "I will be naming my own committee to review the WBC committee, including the true reason of its genesis, its true purpose and its final findings."
Thursday, May 12 2005


Just as the title states, what the hell?

Castillo was out on his feet his neck was a mess leaning on the ropes with his inside the back of his head.

Well apparently some people dont agree with your opinion. Looks like couple of dozens of millions think otherwise.

the people that say that it was a premature stoppage dont know boxing at all.

well the stoppage wa sok...the thing was Corrales getting 30seconds in between KD's that was BS,i wouldnt mind seeing a rematch and think castillo deserves it. Whya re people suck against a rematchh,f**k where no saying corrales didnt win fair but with the sh*t corrales pulled to "not get KTFO" why not give the man a rematch.(?)

the people that say that it was a premature stoppage dont know boxing at all.


Exactly Castillo had his guard down and was completely out of it.

Brooklyn-I would hope majority rules towards my opinion because safety is first and Castillo was out of it and couldnt protect himself. Just because people want to see a fight continue doesnt give a ref a reason to let a fight continue. Safety is more important then fans being satisfied.

I agree a rematch would be a good idea.

Noone disputes the fact though Freitas pulled the mouthpiece trick and got way more time to recover...Perhaps that is because he got KTFO.

i agree with the stoppage but thats not whats being argued, its the amount of time taken in between the second knockdown and the fights continuation. imo it was far too much time allowed for corales to recover as a result of corrales spitting out his mouthpeice. but the ref did the right thing in taking a point from corrales. this could be good news though, the wbc could order an immediate rematch.

Mexicans control too much boxing, poor Chico, next time he should just bomb Castillos ass on the outside.

i agree with the stoppage but thats not whats being argued, its the amount of time taken in between the second knockdown and the fights continuation. imo it was far too much time allowed for corales to recover as a result of corrales spitting out his mouthpeice. but the ref did the right thing in taking a point from corrales. this could be good news though, the wbc could order an immediate rematch.


It was Goosens fault he was trying to coach corrales, action was taken and a point was deducted. Besides Castillo just had plenty of time to recover and wasnt knocked down either.

It was Goosens fault he was trying to coach corrales, action was taken and a point was deducted. Besides Castillo just had plenty of time to recover and wasnt knocked down either.

the ref did the right thing, it isnt the refs fault at all.
i hope they order a rematch

It seems that the Mexican and latin press would have prefered to see Castillo get killed that night...

It seems that the Mexican and latin press would have prefered to see Castillo get killed that night...


Of course that is the true definition of a mexican warrior fight until death.

:)

Iwatch-How come you are never online for Fight Night anymore.

The president of the WBC is Jose Suliaman who himself is mexican, hello, obsviously he wants Castillo to get his rematch and i believe there should be a rematch.I do think the situation was handled very bad.I hope the standing 8 count comes back to boxing!

Of course that is the true definition of a mexican warrior fight until death.

:)

Iwatch-How come you are never online for Fight Night anymore.
I'am, if anything I'am posting way too much lately, I just came back from Puerto Rico and have been destrated, thats all, just a small faze.

A rematch should be enforced I dont dispute that. Corrales shouldnt even be looking at Morales. If Corrales lost I would expect a rematch as well. It was such a close fight and could have easily scored a lot of rounds dead even which is why a rematch should be enforced. But the 10th was so incredible for both fighters, unfortunately Castillo has more heart and didnt ever want to be knocked down.

I'am, if anything I'am posting way too much lately, I just came back from Puerto Rico and have been destrated, thats all, just a small faze.


Ahh cool havent seen you or mooks on much lately and you guys put up a real good fight.

All I get is people throwing like 30 thousand haymaker so I resorted to their game and beat the hell out of them with there own game. A kid threw haymakers the whole fight and I jabbed my way to victory and was landing 3-4 punch combos of jabs on him (EVEN to the head can you believe it?) I won by knockout in the 9th the ref stopped the fight he was getting hit to much. :)

We should go at it sometime, although you will probably shut me out.

Ahh cool havent seen you or mooks on much lately and you guys put up a real good fight.

All I get is people throwing like 30 thousand haymaker so I resorted to their game and beat the hell out of them with there own game. A kid threw haymakers the whole fight and I jabbed my way to victory and was landing 3-4 punch combos of jabs on him (EVEN to the head can you believe it?) I won by knockout in the 9th the ref stopped the fight he was getting hit to much. :)

We should go at it sometime, although you will probably shut me out.
Oh you ment on FIGHT NIGHT, haha, I havent played that for months, after I KO'd Mooks the last time I stoped playing with a record of 30/40-7 something.

Oh you ment on FIGHT NIGHT, haha, I havent played that for months, after I KO'd Mooks the last time I stoped playing with a record of 30/40-7 something.


Why you stop playing it?


Havent seen you around the boards much either, how was Rico?

Can someone tell me why boxers prefer the green belt over the IBF and WBA?

Sounds to me like someone's mad that the champion of a "lesser" belt KO'd the WBC champ...

So if Chico doesn't give an immediate rematch, they can strip him and put the belt back on Castillo or whoever he fights for the vacant title.

This is why the belts don't mean too much anymore...

Why you stop playing it?


Havent seen you around the boards much either, how was Rico?
I just got tired of it, it seemed like I was in the same fight all the time, but we could fight whenever, I see if I still got it. And I feel I've been on the broads alot lately, the other day I posted 20 times, exstauting, and Puerto Rico was the best, I went all over the mountains, saw family, waiting for some photos so I could upload them, and post in the Lounge.

Can someone tell me why boxers prefer the green belt over the IBF and WBA?


Because of the history and it is usually regarded as being the "real" champion if you hold the WBC.

Mexicans love the WBC belt for obvious reasons it is Mexican owned and operated.

The Ring belt is the only belt I recognize :)

A lot of fans are still in denial.

I just got tired of it, it seemed like I was in the same fight all the time, but we could fight whenever, I see if I still got it. And I feel I've been on the broads alot lately, the other day I posted 20 times, exstauting, and Puerto Rico was the best, I went all over the mountains, saw family, waiting for some photos so I could upload them, and post in the Lounge.


I know how you feel it is very repetitive, I feel though I still havent gotten my moneys worth yet.

Thats cool glad you enjoyed it, post those pics I am interested in seeing them.

I would like to plan a visit there, I have heard they snub caucasian americans any truth to that?

I agreed with u, the ring belt has been around for ages.

I know how you feel it is very repetitive, I feel though I still havent gotten my moneys worth yet.

Thats cool glad you enjoyed it, post those pics I am interested in seeing them.

I would like to plan a visit there, I have heard they snub caucasian americans any truth to that?No, Puerto Ricans are kool, Puerto Rico is laid back and everyone is friendly, but speak Spanish, for however long it takes here in America, it takes twice the time in Puerto Rico, they say Puerto Ricans are the happiest country cause they dont care about anything, I went there were white tourist, European like, the snub just comes by how you present youself, you know.

No, Puerto Ricans are kool, Puerto Rico is laid back and everyone is friendly, but speak Spanish, for however long it takes here in America, it takes twice the time in Puerto Rico, they say Puerto Ricans are the happiest country cause they dont care about anything, I went there were white tourist, European like, the snub just comes by how you present youself, you know.


I know absolutely no Spanish at all.

I might have to look into going next summer...Possibly catch a fight down there, I bet the crowd would unreal.

Hey spinks, u a soccer fan?

I know absolutely no Spanish at all.

I might have to look into going next summer...Possibly catch a fight down there, I bet the crowd would unreal.
Yeah, there real crazy there, and to my surpise, the Newpaper had Ruiz on the front page on the matt (tho my family barley knew who he was), the Calderon stage was on channel 4 being talked about (even by my family), and nobodu knew who Cintron was, but point is they actually knew about boxing, which is rare for me, and you could make it just knowing the basics and mumbling the rest, buy a Spanish dictionary.

Yeah, there real crazy there, and to my surpise, the Newpaper had Ruiz on the front page on the matt (tho my family barley knew who he was), the Calderon stage was on channel 4 being talked about (even by my family), and nobodu knew who Cintron was, but point is they actually knew about boxing, which is rare for me, and you could make it just knowing the basics and mumbling the rest, buy a Spanish dictionary.


No surprise on them not really knowing who Cintron and Ruiz is. They claim Puerto Rico but dont live there and I dont even think they speak the language. But that is cool that it made the front page hell I am lucky to see anything boxing related anywhere.

Brz-Nope

Ok, i say this cause if u ever go down to brazil to visit, go check out a palmeiras soccer game and then u you will see crazyness.As much as i love boxing, soccer is number 1 for me.Also check out the girls :D

Ok, i say this cause if u ever go down to brazil to visit, go check out a palmeiras soccer game and then u you will see crazyness.As much as i love boxing, soccer is number 1 for me.Also check out the girls :D


I watched a soccer game of my local high school when I was in 6th grade...It was exciting but I can only get into team sports if I am there live. As crazy as it is, my eyes cant follow the ball in most sports. Im a football fan but I always look at the wrong guy and never actually see the guy who has the ball...Im a Bengals fan go figure.

Brazil has some NICE ladies, to bad the STD level has sky rocketed level there...Guess you gotta go by the look at the menu but dont order.

Yeah, its a problem in our country.Also the police corruption.

Yeah, its a problem in our country.Also the police corruption.


You from South America?

My parents where born in brazil, i was born here in nyc.I went to brazil last year.First time ever.

It's the time given to corrales to recuperate that is in question....it is unfair to the other fighter to allow his opponent to recuperate after he spent the whole fight putting him in that position..... :mad:

I think at the most the fight warrants a mandatory rematch. Both fighters had a chance of winning the fight when it concluded.

the people that say that it was a premature stoppage dont know boxing at all.

The stoppage was fine but Corrales had to long to recover from his KD, if the ref of stepped in when Castillo got stunned and then give him a standing 40 count i'm sure the Corrales corner would have complained.

the people that say that it was a premature stoppage dont know boxing at all.
i think it's a combination of ignorance and false pride. castillo's head is already banging back and forth and what might have saved him from falling were the ropes, might even be unconscious for a couple of seconds before the referee stepped in. watched the fight over and over again and you will see how disoriented castillo was at that moment. another thing, his hands were already down, he could not even put up a decent defense.

The only thing that would've happened if Weeks had waited a few more seconds before stepping in is that Castillo would've been battered a few more times, and ended the fight unconcious on the canvas, rather than still on his feet being covered up by the ref. He was completely out of it, wholly defenseless, and a non-moving target for bombs thrown by Corrales.

As far as the extra time taken to put the mouthpiece back in, I counted around 20 seconds, give or take, over and above the count beginning when Corrales was knocked down, that it took to get Diego's mouthpiece back in and get the action started again. I've seen it take longer, and I've seen it take less time. Also keep in mind that taking the point away used up several seconds of that time. I doubt the fight would've turned out much differently, had Chico held onto his mouthpiece, though. Castillo was wide open coming in trying to finish off his opponent, and he was catching just as many bombs as he was throwing, maybe more. If he'd been a tad more patient and paid more attention to defense, he'd have probably won by KO later that round, maybe the next. It was his own aggressiveness that gave Chico the chance to end the fight the way he did.

The whole mess is a crock of **** that does nothing but belittle the performance given by these two fighters, and those behind it need their asses thoroughly kicked.

Just a thought, if the WBC ordered a rematch would Corrales accept? He might decide that he would be better off trashing the belt and going after other big but less dangerous fights. Especially if he's thinking about changing weight classes, he will lose all of the belts anyway. Just a thought.

Just a thought, if the WBC ordered a rematch would Corrales accept? He might decide that he would be better off trashing the belt and going after other big but less dangerous fights. Especially if he's thinking about changing weight classes, he will lose all of the belts anyway. Just a thought.
I think he could go up to 140 easily enough and take his power with him. He's a big guy at 135, and has more power than anyone else in that weight class. Also consider his handspeed....if he moves up, that'll be an even bigger advantage than it is now. He puts together nice combos, both inside and out, has no trouble going 12 rounds...I think he could move up 2 weights and still be OK, though at Welter he'd have to box more, and lay off the brawling he does at lightweight, or he'd get his ass KO'd quick by someone with big power and a good uppercut.

Just a thought, if the WBC ordered a rematch would Corrales accept? He might decide that he would be better off trashing the belt and going after other big but less dangerous fights. Especially if he's thinking about changing weight classes, he will lose all of the belts anyway. Just a thought.


He said he would do a rematch but Gary Shaw says "Never" so who really knows.

Corrales is a big man and could go up to 160 and still be fine physically but his chin is checky, he has heart no doubt about that but he constantly gets dropped.

actually i just tha fight again. If you look when the fight was stopped Castillo dropped his hands for a second and the ref jumped in there. I first thought he was getting punched when he was out on his feet, but no that i see it again it looks different so i dont know. I still think Corrales did a weak move by throwing his mouthpiece out

Well, I think they will find that Chico had too much time to recover and just order an immediete rematch. So, if Chico wants to keep his belt, he will have to fight Castillo in November. That fight, if it comes off, will be a brutal KO win for Castillo in 6.

Well, I think they will find that Chico had too much time to recover and just order an immediete rematch. So, if Chico wants to keep his belt, he will have to fight Castillo in November. That fight, if it comes off, will be a brutal KO win for Castillo in 6.


I dont think so, I think it will be just as close as the first time around.

What a bunch of bull****. What do they expect the ref to do when Corrales spits out his mouthpiece? Disqualify him? Toney Weeks took a point from him and if Castillo wouldn't have gotten carried away trying to knock him out he would have won the decision. It's not the ref's fault or Chico's fault. Castillo and his fans are turning this all-time classic into nothing but a crybaby war. If they enforce a rematch I think Chico should let them strip him of his title and move up in weight class to fight Morales. That way, Castillo can be a fake ass champion and everybody will remember he got KTFO. That would be worse for Castillo than any loss.

What a bunch of bull****. What do they expect the ref to do when Corrales spits out his mouthpiece? Disqualify him? Toney Weeks took a point from him and if Castillo wouldn't have gotten carried away trying to knock him out he would have won the decision. It's not the ref's fault or Chico's fault. Castillo and his fans are turning this all-time classic into nothing but a crybaby war. If they enforce a rematch I think Chico should let them strip him of his title and move up in weight class to fight Morales. That way, Castillo can be a fake ass champion and everybody will remember he got KTFO. That would be worse for Castillo than any loss.

I agree, I guess everyone wanted Castillo to win and will stop at nothing, but Corrales wouldnt have to move up to face Morales.

What a bunch of bull****. What do they expect the ref to do when Corrales spits out his mouthpiece? Disqualify him? Toney Weeks took a point from him and if Castillo wouldn't have gotten carried away trying to knock him out he would have won the decision. It's not the ref's fault or Chico's fault. Castillo and his fans are turning this all-time classic into nothing but a crybaby war. If they enforce a rematch I think Chico should let them strip him of his title and move up in weight class to fight Morales. That way, Castillo can be a fake ass champion and everybody will remember he got KTFO. That would be worse for Castillo than any loss.
You took the words right out of my mouth pimpin...If corrales should have gotten disqualified for spitting out the mouthpiece then freitas should have when he did it against corrales...He was warned the first time and had a point taken away the second time...There wasn't any bias on the refs part in this fight...Castillo just ran up when he should have stayed away and he got knocked out for it, plain and simple...Rematch or not he still got TKO'd....

You took the words right out of my mouth pimpin...If corrales should have gotten disqualified for spitting out the mouthpiece then freitas should have when he did it against corrales...He was warned the first time and had a point taken away the second time...There wasn't any bias on the refs part in this fight...Castillo just ran up when he should have stayed away and he got knocked out for it, plain and simple...Rematch or not he still got TKO'd....


Noone makes a fuss about Freitas because he lost. If he won it would have been twisted...People are not just happy with seeing a great fight they have to get involved.

Of course that is the true definition of a mexican warrior fight until death.

:)

Iwatch-How come you are never online for Fight Night anymore.
spinx he went to PR and came back with that gay pride ****. Let the boy be he is a litle distracted right now.
oh and by the way he is the biggest hater in this forum. :D

What a bunch of bull****. What do they expect the ref to do when Corrales spits out his mouthpiece? Disqualify him? Toney Weeks took a point from him and if Castillo wouldn't have gotten carried away trying to knock him out he would have won the decision. It's not the ref's fault or Chico's fault. Castillo and his fans are turning this all-time classic into nothing but a crybaby war. If they enforce a rematch I think Chico should let them strip him of his title and move up in weight class to fight Morales. That way, Castillo can be a fake ass champion and everybody will remember he got KTFO. That would be worse for Castillo than any loss.
I think what peeps are fighting is all the chances chico got or made for himself.the fight was won by chico no doubt but they want a rematch cause a lot of things were left unclear.Who is the best lightweight?
I think chico had enough and doesnt want to see castillo anymore.
Sure he won but it was because of all the **** he pulled, the guy wanted to quit since the 8th when he first spit his piece out. No one is gonna let him slide when the fight was in the bag for Castillo and Corrales wins cause he used the system.Imo the fight wouldnt been stopped on the second kd when corrales pulled his mouth piece out with his hand MEANING I quit, I cant take it anymore. Any other ref stops it then and there. We really need to see who the best lightweight is cause this didnt prove ****. Before Corrales was a 60% to 40% to win this fight.I think it will be the other way around in the rematch.If corrales has the balls to give Castillo a rematch.

good stoppage but i think all castillo wants is a rematch..that is all he wants and his camp is hoping that this will get them a rematch

if I were corrales i would stay away from castillo..I dont think he wants to fight castillo again

Just as the title states, what the hell?

Castillo was out on his feet his neck was a mess leaning on the ropes with his inside the back of his head.

No one is arguing that point, they are more arguing how the ref let Corrales get so much time to recuperrate after each fall. That was the unfairness of the fight. The WBC wont overturn the fight or result in anyway, but it is reviewing the fight to see if an immidiate rematch is needed and deserved by Castillo who wants one. And in my opinion it is.

can u visit puetro rico if your last name is hopkins? lol

I know it was a wbc fight, but here are the wba rules regarding mouthpieces...From watching the fight and reading this...I have to conclude that the referee handled the fight properly...rematch or not I will be watching them both fight next time they get in the ring...

Cmon stop complainin! Castillo couldn't finish up Corrrales despite droppin him twice. He became too overconfident and relaxed after he KD Corrales 2ice and he paid the price. Weeks did the right job.

Cmon stop complainin! Castillo couldn't finish up Corrrales despite droppin him twice. He became too overconfident and relaxed after he KD Corrales 2ice and he paid the price. Weeks did the right job.
did he prove he was the best lightweight?
does castillo deserve a rematch?

Hey Manny pic, whats with the Grant avatar?Is that ur saying that the Grant gloves will play a part in Tito losing this fight? :D By the way, Tito by KO in 8 rounds.

did he prove he was the best lightweight?
does castillo deserve a rematch?

Castillo defintely deserves a rematch! What I don't agree with is on how people focuses too much on the ref's stoppage and the ****in mouthpiece! Frietas did that mouthpiece ****, but Corrales beat him!

Castillo jest couldn't finish up Corrales PERIOD! He got a hurt man in front of him and he shoulda done what he shoulda!

Hey Manny pic, whats with the Grant avatar?Is that ur saying that the Grant gloves will play a part in Tito losing this fight? :D By the way, Tito by KO in 8 rounds.


that's Winky Wright's boxing gloves brand. Winky by UD or stoppage!

Castillo defintely deserves a rematch! What I don't agree with is on how people focuses too much on the ref's stoppage and the ****in mouthpiece! Frietas did that mouthpiece ****, but Corrales beat him!

Castillo jest couldn't finish up Corrales PERIOD! He got a hurt man in front of him and he shoulda done what he shoulda!
just answer the ????s.

did he prove he was the best lightweight?
does castillo deserve a rematch?

Castillo deserves a rematch!

Who won the fight? Corrales then. Yes! :cool:

castillo won that fight, the ref shouldve stopped it after corrales' 2nd kd..he simply let corrales continue because he probably had bet on corrales


however, I have to completely agree with the stoppage, castillo was ****ed up

I think what peeps are fighting is all the chances chico got or made for himself.the fight was won by chico no doubt but they want a rematch cause a lot of things were left unclear.Who is the best lightweight? I think chico had enough and doesnt want to see castillo anymore.
Last Saturday night, Corrales was the best lightweight. I think that was made pretty clear when Castillo was out on his feet against the ropes and catching bombs with his cranium. On another night, if the moon is in a different phase, blah, blah, Castillo might've been the best. The competition is so close at that level that on any given night you can flip a coin and be as successful at picking a winner as someone like me who's been following the sport for over 30 years. Sure my pick was correct last weekend, but that was as much luck as anything else. These two guys are very evenly matched, and no outcome could ever be solidly predicted.



Sure he won but it was because of all the **** he pulled, the guy wanted to quit since the 8th when he first spit his piece out. No one is gonna let him slide when the fight was in the bag for Castillo and Corrales wins cause he used the system.Imo the fight wouldnt been stopped on the second kd when corrales pulled his mouth piece out with his hand MEANING I quit, I cant take it anymore. Any other ref stops it then and there. We really need to see who the best lightweight is cause this didnt prove ****. Before Corrales was a 60% to 40% to win this fight.I think it will be the other way around in the rematch.If corrales has the balls to give Castillo a rematch.
I'm still unclear what you guys mean by "all the **** he pulled", or that "Weeks gave him lots of chances". His mouthpiece got knocked out once, and he took it out and dropped it once, and was penalized a point for the latter. He was also knocked down twice, easily beat the count both times, and appeared fairly clear-headed both times. The roughly 20 seconds he gained the second time while Weeks was taking away a point, and getting his mouthpiece put back in, probably helped, but would you have preferred he not lose the point? I think it was justified, personally. He didn't spit it out deliberately, but he did take it out....to get more air and dropped it, and didn't want to miss the count trying to pick it up and put it back in, he said....understandable, and I've seen many fighters do the same over the years without being penalized a point, and nothing was ever said about it. Hell, I've seen 'em spit their mouthpieces across the ring, or even into the crowd, without losing a point. What's the big deal here? Castillo came back in too aggressive after the second knockdown, hoping to catch Corrales and got caught himself instead. The stoppage wasn't early, Weeks did the right thing, and the entire mess should just be dropped completely.

And I don't want a rematch. One fight like that per lifetime is enough for any fighter. I don't want to see either of these guys punchdrunk in another 4 years. I'll cherish the fight they gave me from now on, but I don't want to see them do it again. Too risky. Their styles make for great action, but unfortunately it's too damaging to both fighters for it to happen more than once. Castillo should either fight for the vacated belt (if that happens when Corrales moves up), or wait a year or so after both are completely healed and then quietly enter talks with Team Corrales about a rematch (against my better judgement).

P.S.
Speaking of mouthpieces being spit into the crowd....does anyone have that Foreman fight where he knocked the guy's mouthpiece halfway across the arena with that uppercut? That was hillarious, and I don't have that particular fight, but would like to.

Last Saturday night, Corrales was the best lightweight. I think that was made pretty clear when Castillo was out on his feet against the ropes and catching bombs with his cranium. On another night, if the moon is in a different phase, blah, blah, Castillo might've been the best. The competition is so close at that level that on any given night you can flip a coin and be as successful at picking a winner as someone like me who's been following the sport for over 30 years. Sure my pick was correct last weekend, but that was as much luck as anything else. These two guys are very evenly matched, and no outcome could ever be solidly predicted.


I'm still unclear what you guys mean by "all the **** he pulled", or that "Weeks gave him lots of chances". His mouthpiece got knocked out once, and he took it out and dropped it once, and was penalized a point for the latter. He was also knocked down twice, easily beat the count both times, and appeared fairly clear-headed both times. The roughly 20 seconds he gained the second time while Weeks was taking away a point, and getting his mouthpiece put back in, probably helped, but would you have preferred he not lose the point? I think it was justified, personally. He didn't spit it out deliberately, but he did take it out....to get more air and dropped it, and didn't want to miss the count trying to pick it up and put it back in, he said....understandable, and I've seen many fighters do the same over the years without being penalized a point, and nothing was ever said about it. Hell, I've seen 'em spit their mouthpieces across the ring, or even into the crowd, without losing a point. What's the big deal here? Castillo came back in too aggressive after the second knockdown, hoping to catch Corrales and got caught himself instead. The stoppage wasn't early, Weeks did the right thing, and the entire mess should just be dropped completely.

And I don't want a rematch. One fight like that per lifetime is enough for any fighter. I don't want to see either of these guys punchdrunk in another 4 years. I'll cherish the fight they gave me from now on, but I don't want to see them do it again. Too risky. Their styles make for great action, but unfortunately it's too damaging to both fighters for it to happen more than once. Castillo should either fight for the vacated belt (if that happens when Corrales moves up), or wait a year or so after both are completely healed and then quietly enter talks with Team Corrales about a rematch (against my better judgement).

P.S.
Speaking of mouthpieces being spit into the crowd....does anyone have that Foreman fight where he knocked the guy's mouthpiece halfway across the arena with that uppercut? That was hillarious, and I don't have that particular fight, but would like to.


awesome post doo! Castillo had him, he had him. He just came overconfident and overaggressive and he got caught. Couldn't close the show!

Last Saturday night, Corrales was the best lightweight. I think that was made pretty clear when Castillo was out on his feet against the ropes and catching bombs with his cranium. On another night, if the moon is in a different phase, blah, blah, Castillo might've been the best. The competition is so close at that level that on any given night you can flip a coin and be as successful at picking a winner as someone like me who's been following the sport for over 30 years. Sure my pick was correct last weekend, but that was as much luck as anything else. These two guys are very evenly matched, and no outcome could ever be solidly predicted.


I'm still unclear what you guys mean by "all the **** he pulled", or that "Weeks gave him lots of chances". His mouthpiece got knocked out once, and he took it out and dropped it once, and was penalized a point for the latter. He was also knocked down twice, easily beat the count both times, and appeared fairly clear-headed both times. The roughly 20 seconds he gained the second time while Weeks was taking away a point, and getting his mouthpiece put back in, probably helped, but would you have preferred he not lose the point? I think it was justified, personally. He didn't spit it out deliberately, but he did take it out....to get more air and dropped it, and didn't want to miss the count trying to pick it up and put it back in, he said....understandable, and I've seen many fighters do the same over the years without being penalized a point, and nothing was ever said about it. Hell, I've seen 'em spit their mouthpieces across the ring, or even into the crowd, without losing a point. What's the big deal here? Castillo came back in too aggressive after the second knockdown, hoping to catch Corrales and got caught himself instead. The stoppage wasn't early, Weeks did the right thing, and the entire mess should just be dropped completely.

And I don't want a rematch. One fight like that per lifetime is enough for any fighter. I don't want to see either of these guys punchdrunk in another 4 years. I'll cherish the fight they gave me from now on, but I don't want to see them do it again. Too risky. Their styles make for great action, but unfortunately it's too damaging to both fighters for it to happen more than once. Castillo should either fight for the vacated belt (if that happens when Corrales moves up), or wait a year or so after both are completely healed and then quietly enter talks with Team Corrales about a rematch (against my better judgement).

P.S.
Speaking of mouthpieces being spit into the crowd....does anyone have that Foreman fight where he knocked the guy's mouthpiece halfway across the arena with that uppercut? That was hillarious, and I don't have that particular fight, but would like to.
Sorry man but I disagree that the mouth piece was knocked out by punches. The first time Corrales spit it out was in the 8 th round. I find it hard to drop a mouth piece to the ground using no other force than your mouth getting hit by an uppercut. Point is he dropped it purposly and I call that all the **** he pulled not once or twice. Castillo was getting hit the whole with power shots and did you see a mouth piece fly out?Corrales used the system to get more rest than usuall. That I know of dropping your mouth piece because you cant hack it anymore is not a part of boxing.All Corrales proved is that he will be a little ***** if thats what it takes to win. About the rematch,Castillo is dying to get back in there with Corrales and I hope they do it again just like every boxing fan out there.
I will say the outcome is not a sure thing for Castillo cause who knows this time Corrales pulls a victory off with no controversy.The rematch is still anyones fight but I think Castillo feels he needs to redeem himself cause he felt cheated.

A mouthpiece falling out is a sure sign that the fighter got stunned by a punch. The first time the mouthpiece came out in this fight, it was caused by a punch. Granted, he took it out the second time, but not the first. They were in the ****, the mouthpiece came out, and they fought on for several more seconds before the action lulled and Weeks called time and replaced the mouthpiece. The second time he probably did take it out to buy a little more time...he says otherwise, but it's hard to believe that's the case...at any rate, he paid for that with a point, but it wasn't nearly as blatant a display as I've ever seen, and like I said....Weeks took a point, no warnings, and that should be the end of that.

And there probably will be a rematch eventually. I think it's a mistake, but there'll most likely be enough of a public "outcry" that one will eventually take place. When it does, I look for one of these guys to retire afterwards...a pair of fights like that during a career will just about use a fighter up. Look at Mickey Ward. After his last bout with Gatti, he was ****ing done.

When it does, I look for one of these guys to retire afterwards...a pair of fights like that during a career will just about use a fighter up. Look at Mickey Ward. After his last bout with Gatti, he was ****ing done.
if a rematch would push through, and if the fight would be as brutal as the first one, one fighter would definitely retire

the people that say that it was a premature stoppage dont know boxing at all.
I agree, Castillo would have been out anyway, he was just laying there, out on his feet, getting hammered, nothing differently would've happened if they wouldn't have stopped it, he would have got the KO instead of the TKO.