View Full Version : Barrera V.S. JMM
Lets say the two were to fight.....I know it might be a possibility in the future, that unless M.A.B. moves up in weight and follows Morales. Marquez has put himself in a central position as far as featherweights are concerned....by beating a very good contender in Victor Polo. This fight would have the making of one of the better matchups in the division.
Primarily because the two are extremely skilled counterpunchers. They both can go to war at certain points of the fight, and their styles are very similar. Perhaps with the exception of J.M.M. being the more passive of the two. Both hit hard, and have excellent handspeed.
Im picking this fight as a draw, considering I have no god damn idea what the outcome would be.
Who do you think would win the fight if it were to happen....and exactly why?
Truth 05-11-2005, 10:05 PM You know after some thought I think this fight is a complete toss up. I agree with runw/knives a draw would be my prediction also.
trinidadpr87 05-11-2005, 10:09 PM I'd love to see these two mexican warriors go at it.Don't know who would win though. :confused:
Super_Lightweight 05-11-2005, 10:09 PM I slightly favor Marquez. After looking at how they both handled Pacquiao, and seeing that Marquez is more the pure counter-puncher, I feel that JMM would win.
However, it would be a very close fight and really a true toss-up. This is just my opinion.
SuckaPunch 05-11-2005, 10:10 PM Unless you have a puncher's chance, there's no way you can beat Marquez. Much like Mayweather, the only fighter I give a chance to beat him is Tszyu, but I doubt he'll be able to land one of those flush shots to the jaw, Mayweather is just too quick and has great reflexes.
With regards to Barrera vs. Marquez, it's gonna be a tough call. You said both can go to war at certain points, I really doubt Marquez will go to war with Barrera. Don't be fooled by the Marquez you saw this Saturday, he found out the Polo couldn't hurt a fly. I think this bout will not go to war and become a boxing match with little spurts of power shots here and there. Nobody can beat Marquez in his own game.
Marquez UD 116-112
Brz_Pugilist 05-11-2005, 10:12 PM I favor Barrera in this fight, i like Barrera in a decision.
I think Barrera would be the aggressor. He would stalk JMM around the ring...and perhaps catch him with right hands when he is moving straight back. I would never rule the possibility of JMM catching him and knocking him down a couple of times....or even stopping him when he is hurt. I just think Barrera would pull through, and finish because of who he is. Pac stopped him with a ruthless attack that would derail any other featherweight that night, including Morales. He had studied Barrera's style for months in preparation camp with Roche....and they knew what the hell they were doing.
Roche claimed to everyone that his fighter was a threat to knock out Barrera. That is exactly what happened.
JMM's camp on the otherhand....I doubt have really prepared for a counterpuncher the likes of him, and primarily have dealed with southpaws and numerous plodders. An orthodox fighter who hits really damn hard, and is relentless as Barrera is could ultimately give him trouble.
Either way, JMM is at the top of his game....and it is going to be next to impossible for someone to simply take his featherweight crown away from him. That is understood.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 05-11-2005, 10:17 PM I would favor Juan Manuel Marquez by a Lopsided decision or Stoppage.
Barrera would allow Marquez to fight his fight, fighting in spurts. Marquez also imo has quicker hands, and would counter Barrera very effectively. Marquez's conditioning is also a lot better than Barrera's.
abdiel2k3 05-11-2005, 10:19 PM id say the younger, fresher, quicker, possibly harder hittin, and tough JMM
boht are counter punch guys
and as weve seen with JMM he isnt worried bout maken the fans happy in a fight
he wont take unneeded risks
and i think MAB would be more willing to be the aggressor which would play right into JMM hands
but still a tough fight for both guys
I would favor Juan Manuel Marquez by a Lopsided decision or Stoppage.
Barrera would allow Marquez to fight his fight, fighting in spurts. Marquez also imo has quicker hands, and would counter Barrera very effectively. Marquez's conditioning is also a lot better than Barrera's.
Perhaps. But you cant rule out the fact that JMM tends to move straight back after exchanges. I am not comparing him to Fana....that would be stupid. But look what happened to that guy when he tried to be the slick fighter. He got stole off on.
You are right on the money about the conditioning.....Barrera might have seen better days. And JMM is the new king.
The Troll 05-11-2005, 10:20 PM Voted Barrera by KO.
Chups 05-11-2005, 10:22 PM Barrera wins by UD.
Maybe we can petition or something to make this fight happen. I am 100% sure all of us would like to see this matchup....it would be a great fight. If I found out about it's potential existence....I would be absolutely excstatic.
Brz_Pugilist 05-11-2005, 10:32 PM Hey Chups, whose that in ur avatar? :) :luvbed:
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 05-11-2005, 10:36 PM Perhaps. But you cant rule out the fact that JMM tends to move straight back after exchanges. I am not comparing him to Fana....that would be stupid. But look what happened to that guy when he tried to be the slick fighter. He got stole off on.
You are right on the money about the conditioning.....Barrera might have seen better days. And JMM is the new king.
He only backs up for certain straight punches, and he doesnt exactly stand up to back up... he keeps his posture keeping him secure. the man might not be known as a puncher but he is a heavy hitter. Barrera would have to assault him from the beginning to end with a bunch of straight right hands, but realistically Barrera is a lefty, and will rely on that hand when he faces Marquez. Marquez does kinda what pacquiao does, , he will let him chase him a little bit but as soon as he lands on that back foot hell fire up a combination. And he throws every shot in the book.
He only backs up for certain straight punches, and he doesnt exactly stand up to back up... he keeps his posture keeping him secure. the man might not be known as a puncher but he is a heavy hitter. Barrera would have to assault him from the beginning to end with a bunch of straight right hands, but realistically Barrera is a lefty, and will rely on that hand when he faces Marquez. Marquez does kinda what pacquiao does, , he will let him chase him a little bit but as soon as he lands on that back foot hell fire up a combination. And he throws every shot in the book.
Great point on Barrera being a lefty realistically. 75% or more of his punches come from that hand. If you notice also, JMM likes to hold his left hand really high, and he might be able to block the jab or left....then counter with an uppercutt or right hand of his own. Those are the punches I think he could catch the assasin with and possibly knock him down and hurt him. In that exchange you are talking about...yeah. JMM is a counter-attacker and would unload on him after he misses a few times.
Back and forth, Back and Forth, is the way I would see the fight going. However....Like I said. JMM might knock him down once or twice in the later rounds.
the decision though; might be similar to the Pacquiao/JMM fight. Where judge Guy Jutra gave the fight to JMM for his boxing.
ending in a draw.
Manny_P 05-11-2005, 11:00 PM Who cares? Pac made JMM and Barrera his *****es!
Who cares? Pac made JMM and Barrera his *****es!
M.A.B. owns Morales who owned Pac.
so......is Pac Torreocampo and 3k's *****?
ELPacman 05-11-2005, 11:37 PM Well, as far as a knockout chance is concerned, if Manny couldn't knock Marquez out after sitting him on his ass for 3 times, I highly doubt anyone will. That guy is crazy conditioned and probably feels great about himself that if he ever gets knocked down, he knows he can pull off another Manny fight. Vs Barrera it actually looks like a mismatch or what could be a boring fight. Both might sit back waiting to counter punch, Barrera will probably be the aggressor although when he realizes how bad he's being counter punched, he will probably also go into counter punch mode until the bell rings and nobody threw a shot. I don't know, I also heard Barrera and Marquez were very good friends and said they wouldn't fight each. I'm sure for the right amount of money though, anything could happen.
m00ks 05-11-2005, 11:48 PM No one's getting dropped in this fight. Marquez hits hard but not hard enough to get to Barrera. I mean Morales couldn't do it in 3 fights, caught him with flush shots and he hits much harder than JMM, not to mention more offensive minded. Question is who's gonna make the other guy fight his fight. Barrera will bring it with his short compact punches but Marquez wouldn't be there for any phone booth exchanges. JMM also make a living off of people who come to him. I don't see any excitement in this fight to tell you the truth. We know JMM is gonna wait on Barrera, he'll get the decision no matter what the latter does be it to box or fight. MAB will have his moments but ultimately Marquez would land the cleaner shots.
loangunZ 05-11-2005, 11:58 PM I picked barrera by UD I justfeel he will get to marquez alot more, stalk him and do some body work to slow him down.
Round 1 05-12-2005, 12:07 AM As MAB former manager Ricardo Maldonado once stated,"Pacquiao and Marquez have a style that is like poison to Barrera, either one of them will knock him out anytime."
Was Maldonado bitter because MAB had just left him or does he really know Barreras weaknesses?
I have a SD in favor of Barrera.
As MAB former manager Ricardo Maldonado once stated,"Pacquiao and Marquez have a style that is like poison to Barrera, either one of them will knock him out anytime."
Was Maldonado bitter because MAB had just left him or does he really know Barreras weaknesses?
I have a SD in favor of Barrera.
either way. I could not see how much different JMM and Pacquao's style contrast. Just My opinon.
chito 05-12-2005, 12:09 AM i like barrera to win but i doubt if this fight will ever happen since they are both mexicans (and one post says they are friends). this is not a case like morales-barrera. and don't anyone think that this is such a boring fight since they have the same fight style?
Round 1 05-12-2005, 12:18 AM This would be an awesome fight if it happens.
JMM needs to find somebody other than Ignacio Beristain to manage him, better fights will come his way if he does.
Once I asked Cesar Bazan, who lives here in EL Paso, why did you leave Beristain, " because he is a dumb ass," he replied.
Manny_P 05-12-2005, 12:21 AM Marquez would beat Barrera. Marquez is accurate enough to outpoint Barrera! Unless Barrera scores a KD, then he might take it.
This fight grows closer every day. Unless Pacquiao gets thrown into the mix. I wish he would just return to the phillipines and leave this division alone. That bully.
oldgringo 06-18-2005, 05:07 PM I'd love to see Morales kick Marquez' ass.
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