View Full Version : Larry Holmes vs Floyd Patterson


Davros?
02-07-2010, 07:22 AM
This could be an intresting matchup, who would you have?

BritishBoxing92
02-07-2010, 07:23 AM
This could be an intresting matchup, who would you have?

i reckon larry...was harder hitter and had a good chin

SplitSecond
02-07-2010, 07:25 AM
i figure holmes would win pretty comfortably, maybe even ko patterson

TBear
02-07-2010, 07:35 AM
Holmes by ko.

sonnyboyx2
02-07-2010, 08:03 AM
Patterson 15PTS... take away the 2 Liston defeats, Holmes dont hit nothing like Liston did.. Patterson lost to the greatest fighter in history the night he lost to Muhammad Ali in 1965 that night Ali was incredible, Patterson had some great victories on his record, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Moore, Johansson, Cooper, London, Machen robbed against Maxim & Quarry.. Floyd was a fantastic boxer/puncher who i feel would be too much for Holmes

freudianfloyd
02-07-2010, 12:34 PM
Patterson 15PTS... take away the 2 Liston defeats, Holmes dont hit nothing like Liston did.. Patterson lost to the greatest fighter in history the night he lost to Muhammad Ali in 1965 that night Ali was incredible, Patterson had some great victories on his record, Chuvalo, Bonavena, Moore, Johansson, Cooper, London, Machen robbed against Maxim & Quarry.. Floyd was a fantastic boxer/puncher who i feel would be too much for Holmes

I like your answer, i'll agree with you.

Obama
02-07-2010, 12:45 PM
Patterson litterally has no chance in hell of winning this. Horrible mismatch. Everyone Ali beat, Holmes also beats.

sonnyboyx2
02-07-2010, 12:57 PM
Patterson litterally has no chance in hell of winning this. Horrible mismatch. Everyone Ali beat, Holmes also beats.

i take it you have never seen much of Floyd Patterson

mickey malone
02-07-2010, 01:34 PM
Floyd was a fantastic boxer/puncher who i feel would be too much for Holmes

Oh, for fux sake!!!

sonnyboyx2
02-07-2010, 02:04 PM
Floyd was a fantastic boxer/puncher who i feel would be too much for Holmes

Oh, for fux sake!!!

what was Larry Holmes greatest win?

Ziggy Stardust
02-07-2010, 02:45 PM
This could be an intresting matchup, who would you have?

I love Patterson, he's one of my all-time favorite fighters, and he's a near-great Heavyweight, but he's NOT beating Holmes who's a top-five ATG Heavy.

Poet

sonnyboyx2
02-07-2010, 03:06 PM
Patterson litterally has no chance in hell of winning this. Horrible mismatch. Everyone Ali beat, Holmes also beats.

Frazier, Foreman, Quarry, Lyle, Liston to name a few.. IMO Holmes would be brutally beaten by Frazier and struggle with the others

GameGod
02-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Holmes was simply a better Heavyweight. As for being Knocked Out, Patterson had a terrible chin. If someone could beat him easily, they could knock him out. Holmes would knock him out good.

mickey malone
02-07-2010, 03:50 PM
what was Larry Holmes greatest win?
Not that my opinion means anything, but how's about the 'unluckiest man never to win it,' David Bey? or 'top heavyweight,' Trevor Berbick?.. Or shall we go for Weaver, Norton or Cooney?.. can't decide.

sonnyboyx2
02-07-2010, 03:52 PM
Not that my opinion means anything, but how's about the 'unluckiest man never to win it,' David Bey? or 'top heavyweight,' Trevor Berbick?.. Or shall we go for Weaver, Norton or Cooney?.. can't decide.

get back to me when you have made up your mind.. funny how i guessed you would avoid answering

sonnyboyx2
02-07-2010, 03:54 PM
are you saying David Bey was not the "unluckiest fighter not to win the title"?

mickey malone
02-07-2010, 04:48 PM
get back to me when you have made up your mind.. funny how i guessed you would avoid answering Cooney had be to his finest hour..

are you saying David Bey was not the "unluckiest fighter not to win the title"?
That's not what i wrote..

Jim Jeffries
02-08-2010, 03:34 AM
Patterson litterally has no chance in hell of winning this. Horrible mismatch. Everyone Ali beat, Holmes also beats.

Can always count on you for a bit of humor. If Foreman hadn't retired, no one would know who Holmes is.

Too bad Holmes ducked Dokes, we might have seen how he'd have done with a fighter with near Patterson's hand speed.

sonnyboyx2
02-08-2010, 07:07 AM
get back to me when you have made up your mind.. funny how i guessed you would avoid answering Cooney had be to his finest hour..

are you saying David Bey was not the "unluckiest fighter not to win the title"?
That's not what i wrote..

Cooney had to be his finest hour....well what was your post saying "Oh for fux sake" ment to be insinuating at... because i take it at meaning that you disagree with me taking Patterson over Holmes.. But the difference between me and you is night & day on this sport, i happen to have watched around 30 fights of Floyd Patterson and around 40 fights of Larry Holmes where as you will have watched Patterson vs Liston 1 & 2 and Holmes vs Ali & Tyson... IMO Floyd Patterson was vastly superior in boxing skills, speed & punch-Power than Larry Holmes... if Renaldo Snipes & Ibar Arrington can put Holmes on the canvas then Floyd Patterson would poleaxe him... Patterson is vastly underated.. i suggest you go watch his FOTY from 1965 against George Chuvalo

Davros?
02-08-2010, 07:19 AM
I thinks this would be a good fight beacuse Holmes was not a real hard puncher and although i think Holmes would win i could see Patterson causing him problems and taking a number of rounds. Patterson doesnt do well against power punchers but Holmes was not a knock out artist so I think Patterson would last a fair number of rounds and put up a good fight.

sonnyboyx2
02-08-2010, 08:23 AM
get back to me when you have made up your mind.. funny how i guessed you would avoid answering Cooney had be to his finest hour..

are you saying David Bey was not the "unluckiest fighter not to win the title"?
That's not what i wrote..

Cooney had to be his finest hour....well what was your post saying "Oh for fux sake" ment to be insinuating at... because i take it at meaning that you disagree with me taking Patterson over Holmes.. But the difference between me and you is night & day on this sport, i happen to have watched around 30 fights of Floyd Patterson and around 40 fights of Larry Holmes where as you will have watched Patterson vs Liston 1 & 2 and Holmes vs Ali & Tyson... IMO Floyd Patterson was vastly superior in boxing skills, speed & punch-Power than Larry Holmes... if Renaldo Snipes & Ibar Arrington can put Holmes on the canvas the Floyd Patterson would poleaxe him... Patterson is vastly underated.. i suggest you go watch his FOTY from 1965 against George Chuvalo

mickey malone
02-08-2010, 10:39 AM
where as you will have watched Patterson vs Liston 1 & 2 and Holmes vs Ali & Tyson...

Mistic Meg

sonnyboyx2
02-08-2010, 11:23 AM
where as you will have watched Patterson vs Liston 1 & 2 and Holmes vs Ali & Tyson...

Mistic Meg

what fights of these two have you watched then?
i will ask you a couple of questions on them like i did with Wills vs Dokes

mickey malone
02-08-2010, 11:53 AM
what fights of these two have you watched then?
i will ask you a couple of questions on them like i did with Wills vs Dokes
Do you want me to jump through hoops for you aswell?

frankenfrank
02-08-2010, 02:53 PM
larry holmes , of course , ali did it twice , badly.

Davros?
02-08-2010, 03:07 PM
larry holmes , of course , ali did it twice , badly.

Patterson had an injured back in there first fight and couldnt move properly and in there 2nd fight he was old.

Jim Jeffries
02-08-2010, 04:01 PM
Patterson had an injured back in there first fight and couldnt move properly and in there 2nd fight he was old.

One could argue that Patterson was never the same after back to back demolitions by Liston. Or that Holmes. is. not. Ali.

Ziggy Stardust
02-08-2010, 06:09 PM
what fights of these two have you watched then?
i will ask you a couple of questions on them like i did with Wills vs Dokes

I'm sure you were ringside for all thee Patterson Vs. Johannson trists :rofl:

Poet

DeepSleep
02-08-2010, 06:51 PM
Patterson litterally has no chance in hell of winning this. Horrible mismatch. Everyone Ali beat, Holmes also beats.

I think Holmes may have some real problems with Liston, Foreman and Frazier.

On the original subject, I think Holmes's jab is too much for the smaller Patterson who would have some severe difficulties trying to find an answer for it. He keeps the fight interesting though as he does land his trademark left hook enough during periods were Holmes's gets too mechanical and to keep the fight competitive but I think in the end he never solves the problem of giving up so much reach to Holmes.