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Super_Lightweight 05-11-2005, 04:12 PM *There will be another re-broadcast of Jose Luis Castillo vs. Diego Corrales on Friday night (May 13, 2005) on SHOWTIME at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
A conference was held today for the camps and participants of one of the greatest fights in history, last Saturday's Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo lightweight unification showdown, to discuss their lingering thoughts on the fight and their plans for the future.
The theme coming from now ex-champion Jose Luis Castillo and his people seems to be an urgency to get back in the ring with Diego Corrales as early as this November and right what they consider was a wrong that took place.
Castillo and especially Top Rank promoter Todd duBoef, contend that the 28 seconds it took after the second knockdown of Corrales to replace the deliberately removed mouthpiece are what allowed him to recover and ultimately score the stoppage win over their man.
Meanwhile, Team Corrales say they are in no hurry to jump back in the fire with Castillo, in fact promoter Gary Shaw hinted a bump up to 140 to face the Hatton vs. Tszyu winner may be next on the agenda.
Bruised, sore and both still champions in their hearts, Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo say they respect each other tremendously and thank the boxing world for the adulation and respect they've been shown after their epic struggle.
Jose Luis Castillo:
How do you feel?
Physically I feel great. I'm still a little sore from the fight, but other than that, I'm fine. I'm looking forward to doing it again. There are still a lot of doubts about who the best is at lightweight, so let's do it again.
What was your mindset after second knockdown of Corrales? Did you relax?
I could see he was trying to get up, so I knew it wasn't over, but I was just waiting for a chance to finish it. I knew he was a punch away from it being over. The furthest thing from my mind was getting stopped while I was looking at him down there.
Do you want a rematch?
We talked to the WBC, and they've already said they're behind us, so we're hoping to get a rematch with Diego right away.
How soon are you hoping for?
My next fight will probably be against Diego Corrales. I'm not going to fight anybody else. Hopefully in November.
Were you conscious enough to take a knee, or were you too hurt?
He didn't give me a chance to put a knee down, I got hit and the fight was over. (At which point, Top Rank chief Todd duBoef interjects, "maybe he should have thrown his mouthpiece down.")
How do you feel about being in one of the greatest fights ever?
I just went out to do my job. I go in there to do the best I can and give people the best fights I can, and that's all I did. I just did my job and that's the kid of fights I want to give people all the time. Hopefully my sons and grandkids will see that fight and know I was in a great fight.
Do you think Tony Weeks got caught up in the moment and perhaps that led him to stop the fight prematurely?
That's his job, that's what he has to do. There's nothing I can do about him and the result is already done. I'm not going to cry about it. Everybody saw what happened.
Were you surprised at the way Corrales fought?
No. I loved it. He said he would and when he did, it was great for me. I loved it.
Aren't you concerned about your health in going directly into a rematch?
That's why you prepare yourself. That's why we prepare and get in the best shape possible, so we can take it. We prepare ourselves and we should be able to go another 12 rounds like that, no problem.
Diego Corrales
Can you take us through the end of the fight the way you see it?
I went down from a good accumulation of punches, when I grabbed my mouthpiece to stand up with it, it fell out of my hand. I'm not going to waste time or get counted out looking for a mouthpiece on the ground. I made sure my corner knew I was clear, and got to my feet. I dropped the mouthpiece by accident, I really didn't want a 10-6 round against me.
My spirit was still in it. I still knew I could win that fight. I just landed a great right hand. I knew he would put pressure on. He threw a right hand, so I threw a counter right hand. I remember thinking to myself oh my god, he's hurt. I stepped forward with some more shots and hit him with a clean left hook and he buckled and we changed positions along the ropes. I landed a another clean hook on the ropes, then I missed him a few times, then I hit him with another left hook and Tony Weeks stopped the fight. I knew he was done when his hands went to his side. I also knew not to let him off the hook after what I had been through.
How do you feel about the stoppage?
He was extremely helpless. I take my hat off to Tony Weeks. Everybody in the commission did an awesome job. His hands were at his side. My job is my job, but Tony did a great job in stopping it.
Have you ever fought anyone who could take punches like that?
I've never had a guy take punches like that. That dude was unreal! I take my hat off to him. He probably says the same thing about me. He was unbelievable. How do you take some of the shots he took? As clean as they were and many of them were grouped together. Geez man.
Were you looking to land that first bomb when you did?
I saw an opening and I took it. It's never the shots you plan on that end up spectacular. I saw it and I went for it and it wound up being a great shot. It was some good damage. Honestly, until the seventh round, I had given up on hurting him. I said to myself that this is going to be a twelve-round hard-fought fight.
Do you think this fight vindicated your sub-par performance against Floyd Mayweather?
I think it vindicated me. I think it has solidified the fact that I am a person who can come back from anything and I showed that this weekend. When I'm behind, there is no counting me out. I can and will do whatever it takes to win a fight. I can pull it out. My favorite saying is "hell or high water" and for me, it's true.
Do you feel you fought the right fight against Castillo?
We had to make him start off out of his norm. By making him start fighting hard in the first round, we were both tired later on. He couldn't come on later in the fight like he does. We fought at my pace and I was making him fight the entire 12 rounds. By making him work early on like that, we gave ourselves a better chance in the later rounds. It was the right fight to fight against him. It was hard though!
Who do you feel is behind the complaining about the mouthpiece controversy and if you feel Castillo is behind it, does it change your opinion of him?
No. It's hard to take a loss. It's hard to lose your title, no mater what fashion . If it's him behind this, no, it doesn't change my opinion of him. I will always be a Castillo fan, no matter where he fights, I will always go watch. I've been in with him and I know he's great.
The complaining probably has a lot more to do with the people at Top Rank. They don't like losing and I'll tell you what, Bob Arum was very vocal before the fight that nobody beats his Mexicans and he really had to eat that. I 'm sure Bob wasn't happy about that on top of the fact that it was someone he let go of that did it.
Promoter Gary Shaw:
Both fighters are now legends and true champions. Never take anything away from either of these fighters. That fight changed their lives forever. Both fighters deserve all the recognition they are getting.
Any time you see a neck go like that, it's dangerous. I would have been in there fast if I saw Diego that helpless. If I saw Diego was helpless, I would have stopped it myself.
Top Rank are sore losers. Just like calling Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De la Hoya a fix, now they're making a big deal about the mouthpiece. What about the low blows Castillo was landing? Chico never said anything about them. Watch the fight again and put it in slow motion. You'll see Castillo's head going from side to side and you'll know at that moment, Tony Weeks did the right thing. No fight is worth getting a fighter hurt badly.
You notice Bob Arum is not on this call? He's probably at breakfast with Jose Sulaiman trying to get an immediate rematch ordered. I think that would be terrible for boxing. We'll fight Castillo when we're ready. Maybe at a later date, maybe at a different weight. I'm taking Diego to Manchester to watch this next fight (Tszyu vs. Hatton) because maybe his next fight will be at 140.
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.::|ULTIMATE|::. 05-11-2005, 04:15 PM I also posted at the post-fight Press conference when Corrales was asked if he would give Castillo the rematch he is asking for, Gary Shaw immidiately shook his head as to say no. While Corrales said Gary and Jay make those decisions.. so..
Zab Super Judah 05-11-2005, 04:18 PM yeah corrales keeps saying ill leave it up to my promoters.....he should give castillo his rematch...if he goes 140 I hope castillo follows him to 140
Marcus_Stunner 05-11-2005, 04:21 PM Corrales is just using his head. Those two knockdowns are huge. :boxing:
Alpha Male 05-11-2005, 04:29 PM Corrales is gonna move up to 140 and get his ass straight murdered by the likes of Tszyu, Floyd, and Cotto.
castillo 05-11-2005, 04:45 PM Corrales's heart is also CHICO (little)just like his nickname - That's not the heart of a true warrior !!!
The Troll 05-11-2005, 04:47 PM *There will be another re-broadcast of Jose Luis Castillo vs. Diego Corrales on Friday night (May 13, 2005) on SHOWTIME at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
If you have digital cable. The Corrales vs Castillo event is on "On Demand" right now. You can go watch it right now.
That was a good fight but I don't blame Corrales for not giving an immediate rematch. That's a hell of a beating to have to take and he could probably get more money for other fights without guaranteing that he will be punch drunk by 50.
IwatchBoxing 05-11-2005, 05:02 PM Castillo got to get a rematch the Casamayor way, and fight for a rematch, hopefuly its with Casamayor in his hometown.
realheavyhands 05-11-2005, 05:03 PM castillo is a fool weeks saved him from another year off his career..i wish weeks let it go and corrales would landed 3 more hooks cuz he was vounrable and agaist the ropes he woulda been retarted after the fight
Corrales is naming Zoo and Morales as potential future opponents...both are mismatches.
Zoo would murder Corrales
Corrales would murder Morales
Castillo vs. Corrales...u pickem
What fight would you rather see?
realheavyhands 05-11-2005, 05:21 PM zoo corrales..zoo is a beast
Gonzalo 05-11-2005, 05:52 PM Castillo deseves a rematch. If Castillo was so badly hurt then why is it Corrales' team the ones saying that they don't wan't an emediate rematch with Castillo because they don't want Corrales to get hurt.
Castillo is the true winner if Corrales didn't get all that ****in time to rest Castillo would have won by KO. Corrales doesn't want to give Castillo a rematch because he knows that he can't beat Castillo.
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 06:11 PM Some thoughts about all this:
--I like Chico's honosty about saying his promoters make the decisions about who he fights. He is not just gonna say the rematch will be there for Castillo and not deliver and he is not just going to say no, as ultimately he gets alot of advice on what matches to take.
--As a fan, and a Chico fan, I think the best fight out there is Castillo/Corrales II. However, Chico and his promoters are gonna go where the money is, and that is not always where the hardcore fans are. I think the most likely event is a tune-up bout and then Corrales vs Morales sometime at the end of this year or early next year.
--Castillo talks about how he wish the ref had let him take a knee, but the bottom line is that at that moment Castillo was in another universe and if that fights goes on he continues to get blasted on the ropes for a few seconds because he did not have enough wits about him to take a knee. It probably could have gone on for a few more seconds and there would have been less grumbling about the stoppage, but Weeks did the brave thing and stopped it before Castillo was seriously hurt. For the first time in the fight his hands were at his sides, his head was over the ropes and he was taking unanswered power shots to the face, I think alot of Castillo fans are glad the referee stopped it when he did and did not allow Castillo to get hurt more.
--It is ludacris if anybody thinks Diego is scared of a rematch, this guys last four fights are Casamayor, Casamayor, Freitas, and Castillo. You would be hard pressed to find a better body of recent work in boxing, Chico doesnt back down from challenges. But this is also a bussiness and he has to go where the money is, and the PPV coin that a Morales/Corrales fight would generate is insane. (assuming that Morales does not opt for Pacquiao or Barrera first)
--I think that a PPV between Chico and Mayweather would generate HUGE money if Mayweather gets past Gatti. Both guys would be about as hot as you can get in this sport and I think a fight between them would generate alot of casual interest, whereas before it might not have appealed to the casual boxing fan. Don't be too suprised if this happens despite the beating that Chico took the first time they fought.
mic573 05-11-2005, 06:11 PM Corrales is good for not giving rematches after winning a fight. I'm still waiting for the Casamayor rubbermatch.
Super_Lightweight 05-11-2005, 06:18 PM It is ludacris if anybody thinks Diego is scared of a rematch, this guys last four fights are Casamayor, Casamayor, Freitas, and Castillo. You would be hard pressed to find a better body of recent work in boxing, Chico doesnt back down from challenges. But this is also a bussiness and he has to go where the money is, and the PPV coin that a Morales/Corrales fight would generate is insane. (assuming that Morales does not opt for Pacquiao or Barrera first)
That's not true at all. Diego went through hell with only one of those fighters, and that was Castillo. They both went through hell, and it would NOT be ludacris to suggest that iego is somewhat scared of a rematch.
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 06:22 PM In the fight with Casamayor, Chico's lip almost fell off-- that was no walk in the park. He then fights the same guy again, who many thought to be the best Jr. Lightweight in the world. After that guy he goes and fights the undefeated lightweight who beat Joel. Yet another fight which is no walk in the park. Then in his very next fight he goes and fights the guy who is considered to be the best lightweight in world. Yeah, Chico has a real reputation for avoiding the tough fights, what was I thinking? All I am saying is that if he does not fight Castillo again it will be a monetary decision, and if that is the case it is not like he is going to be getting in the ring with some nobody type guys- it will be against another one of the top pound for pound guys in the sport. That is what he does.
mic573 05-11-2005, 06:37 PM Castillo and Corrales both had a great run going into the fight not just Corrales.
Super_Lightweight 05-11-2005, 06:41 PM The fact that no fighter has given Diego the hell that Castillo gave still stands. Again, to suggest that Diego is somewhat scared and hesitant about a rematch is not ludacris.
m00ks 05-11-2005, 07:13 PM Corrales doesn't want a rematch because he knows he won't be as fortunate as he was on Saturday and he doesn't want to go back to hell.
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 07:23 PM I dont know where this resergence of Castillo support came from, but I remind you all-- only one of those two guys got stopped, and it was not Corrales. Corrales may have to go through hell again in their next fight, but when the fight is over Castillo will be a permanent resident.
realheavyhands 05-11-2005, 07:28 PM yall kno damn well if the money right we'll be seein castillo corrales 2
m00ks 05-11-2005, 07:29 PM I dont know where this resergence of Castillo support came from, but I remind you all-- only one of those two guys got stopped, and it was not Corrales. Corrales may have to go through hell again in their next fight, but when the fight is over Castillo will be a permanent resident.
I'm calling it as I see it. Castillo won't make the same mistake of thinking Corrales is done after he downs him and Chico will get knocked out. Castillo got stopped but why do I feel Chico was the one who got the worst beating? And a rematch won't happen. Chico don't want anymore.
realheavyhands 05-11-2005, 07:29 PM yall kno damn well if the money right we'll be seein castillo corrales 2 no damn point bein in a war like dat for less then a mill...
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 07:32 PM Chico fought exactly the fight that Castillo wanted and the last fight that he should have strategically. And still he knocked out Castillo, can you even imagine what will happen if he throws a little strategy in with that superior talent? It wouldn't be nearly as competative as the first. Chico may have been a little more bruised after the fight, but that goes ten more seconds and Castillo is in a coma. I want to see a rematch as much as the next guy, but as I have said- the green is what makes the decisions, and if it is there for a rematch, then that will be the fight. If it is more for another bout, then that will be Chico's next fight. And no amount of lobbying from Arum and Castillo are going to change that, so I guess we just have to keep our fingers crossed.
m00ks 05-11-2005, 07:36 PM both fighters would have strategies going into a rematch but I would favor Castillo. And he doesn have more talent than Castillo. If anything the latter is way more versatile than Diego. Look at what happened in their respective Mayweather fights.
mic573 05-11-2005, 07:37 PM I dont know where this resergence of Castillo support came from, but I remind you all-- only one of those two guys got stopped, and it was not Corrales. Corrales may have to go through hell again in their next fight, but when the fight is over Castillo will be a permanent resident.
I don't really want to say anything bad about Corrales because I am a fan of his but I get the feeling him and his camp feel they got away with one. If it had been Corrales who got stopped he would of been crying around begging for a rematch just like after the Casamayor fight.
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 07:40 PM Please man, I don't hate Castillo or anything, but the man only has one style. And that is to go plowing foward. And he is a warrior, no doubt, so he makes it work for himself. But Diego can slug (which he best Castillo doing last time) and he can box (which he will beat him with next time). As I said, about ten more seconds and Castillo is in a coma after the last fight. If they fight again he could be leaving in a bodybag. If he lost a fight in a battle of styles that were tailor-made for him, how is he going to fair when he actually has to deal with Chico making it tough for him stylistically?
borikua 05-11-2005, 07:47 PM Corrales won and the ball is in his court, if the rematch if gonna happen is not cuz Castillo demands it, it cuz Showtime will offer a big payday to Corrales that he cant refuse...If he can make more money fighting someone else (Morales/Floyd) I don't blame him...
mic573 05-11-2005, 07:48 PM There is nothing in the fight that suggests to me that Corrales could outbox Castillo. Everytime he started stepping back and jabbing Castillo would start jabbing as well and landing his as well. Corrales can not outbox Castillo.
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 07:52 PM hahaha, if I recall correctly according to you Corrales could not beat Castillo either. So forgive me if I don't take your word on that one.
PapiShasho 05-11-2005, 07:53 PM it's funny, fans act like they care about the boxers they watch...but really everyone just wants to watch someone die in the ring.
the stoppage was fair, plain and simple. either stop it and castillo lives, deal with a little controversy here and there, but most give weeks credit for doing a good job on one of the best fights of all time.
or dont stop it, and RISK castillo getting seriously hurt, and tony weeks can basically say goodbye to his refereeing career, and castillo might go down the same path emile griffith took.
castillo didn't win because he made a stupid mistake of going in carelessly trying to knockout a hurt fighter, which is a big mistake in boxing.
in my opinion, castillo was ALREADY winning the fight, and he has another 10-6 round in the bag with the 10th! he couldve easily boxed his way to a win, or at least been a bit more careful!
the referee did his job taking a point away from corrales, which was basically saying, ok, you're done, you either knock castillo out, or you're gonna lose on points.
nobody expected corrales to come back like that, but he did, and you have one of the greatest fights of all time.
if anything, castillo should feel like **** for giftwrapping a KO win and handing it to corrales by fighting the way he did after corrales got knocked down the 2nd time.
Shaolin Bushido 05-11-2005, 07:56 PM *There will be another re-broadcast of Jose Luis Castillo vs. Diego Corrales on Friday night (May 13, 2005) on SHOWTIME at 11:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.
A conference was held today for the camps and participants of one of the greatest fights in history, last Saturday's Diego Corrales vs. Jose Luis Castillo lightweight unification showdown, to discuss their lingering thoughts on the fight and their plans for the future.
The theme coming from now ex-champion Jose Luis Castillo and his people seems to be an urgency to get back in the ring with Diego Corrales as early as this November and right what they consider was a wrong that took place.
Castillo and especially Top Rank promoter Todd duBoef, contend that the 28 seconds it took after the second knockdown of Corrales to replace the deliberately removed mouthpiece are what allowed him to recover and ultimately score the stoppage win over their man.
Meanwhile, Team Corrales say they are in no hurry to jump back in the fire with Castillo, in fact promoter Gary Shaw hinted a bump up to 140 to face the Hatton vs. Tszyu winner may be next on the agenda.
Bruised, sore and both still champions in their hearts, Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo say they respect each other tremendously and thank the boxing world for the adulation and respect they've been shown after their epic struggle.
Jose Luis Castillo:
How do you feel?
Physically I feel great. I'm still a little sore from the fight, but other than that, I'm fine. I'm looking forward to doing it again. There are still a lot of doubts about who the best is at lightweight, so let's do it again.
What was your mindset after second knockdown of Corrales? Did you relax?
I could see he was trying to get up, so I knew it wasn't over, but I was just waiting for a chance to finish it. I knew he was a punch away from it being over. The furthest thing from my mind was getting stopped while I was looking at him down there.
Do you want a rematch?
We talked to the WBC, and they've already said they're behind us, so we're hoping to get a rematch with Diego right away.
How soon are you hoping for?
My next fight will probably be against Diego Corrales. I'm not going to fight anybody else. Hopefully in November.
Were you conscious enough to take a knee, or were you too hurt?
He didn't give me a chance to put a knee down, I got hit and the fight was over. (At which point, Top Rank chief Todd duBoef interjects, "maybe he should have thrown his mouthpiece down.")
How do you feel about being in one of the greatest fights ever?
I just went out to do my job. I go in there to do the best I can and give people the best fights I can, and that's all I did. I just did my job and that's the kid of fights I want to give people all the time. Hopefully my sons and grandkids will see that fight and know I was in a great fight.
Do you think Tony Weeks got caught up in the moment and perhaps that led him to stop the fight prematurely?
That's his job, that's what he has to do. There's nothing I can do about him and the result is already done. I'm not going to cry about it. Everybody saw what happened.
Were you surprised at the way Corrales fought?
No. I loved it. He said he would and when he did, it was great for me. I loved it.
Aren't you concerned about your health in going directly into a rematch?
That's why you prepare yourself. That's why we prepare and get in the best shape possible, so we can take it. We prepare ourselves and we should be able to go another 12 rounds like that, no problem.
Diego Corrales
Can you take us through the end of the fight the way you see it?
I went down from a good accumulation of punches, when I grabbed my mouthpiece to stand up with it, it fell out of my hand. I'm not going to waste time or get counted out looking for a mouthpiece on the ground. I made sure my corner knew I was clear, and got to my feet. I dropped the mouthpiece by accident, I really didn't want a 10-6 round against me.
My spirit was still in it. I still knew I could win that fight. I just landed a great right hand. I knew he would put pressure on. He threw a right hand, so I threw a counter right hand. I remember thinking to myself oh my god, he's hurt. I stepped forward with some more shots and hit him with a clean left hook and he buckled and we changed positions along the ropes. I landed a another clean hook on the ropes, then I missed him a few times, then I hit him with another left hook and Tony Weeks stopped the fight. I knew he was done when his hands went to his side. I also knew not to let him off the hook after what I had been through.
How do you feel about the stoppage?
He was extremely helpless. I take my hat off to Tony Weeks. Everybody in the commission did an awesome job. His hands were at his side. My job is my job, but Tony did a great job in stopping it.
Have you ever fought anyone who could take punches like that?
I've never had a guy take punches like that. That dude was unreal! I take my hat off to him. He probably says the same thing about me. He was unbelievable. How do you take some of the shots he took? As clean as they were and many of them were grouped together. Geez man.
Were you looking to land that first bomb when you did?
I saw an opening and I took it. It's never the shots you plan on that end up spectacular. I saw it and I went for it and it wound up being a great shot. It was some good damage. Honestly, until the seventh round, I had given up on hurting him. I said to myself that this is going to be a twelve-round hard-fought fight.
Do you think this fight vindicated your sub-par performance against Floyd Mayweather?
I think it vindicated me. I think it has solidified the fact that I am a person who can come back from anything and I showed that this weekend. When I'm behind, there is no counting me out. I can and will do whatever it takes to win a fight. I can pull it out. My favorite saying is "hell or high water" and for me, it's true.
Do you feel you fought the right fight against Castillo?
We had to make him start off out of his norm. By making him start fighting hard in the first round, we were both tired later on. He couldn't come on later in the fight like he does. We fought at my pace and I was making him fight the entire 12 rounds. By making him work early on like that, we gave ourselves a better chance in the later rounds. It was the right fight to fight against him. It was hard though!
Who do you feel is behind the complaining about the mouthpiece controversy and if you feel Castillo is behind it, does it change your opinion of him?
No. It's hard to take a loss. It's hard to lose your title, no mater what fashion . If it's him behind this, no, it doesn't change my opinion of him. I will always be a Castillo fan, no matter where he fights, I will always go watch. I've been in with him and I know he's great.
The complaining probably has a lot more to do with the people at Top Rank. They don't like losing and I'll tell you what, Bob Arum was very vocal before the fight that nobody beats his Mexicans and he really had to eat that. I 'm sure Bob wasn't happy about that on top of the fact that it was someone he let go of that did it.
Promoter Gary Shaw:
Both fighters are now legends and true champions. Never take anything away from either of these fighters. That fight changed their lives forever. Both fighters deserve all the recognition they are getting.
Any time you see a neck go like that, it's dangerous. I would have been in there fast if I saw Diego that helpless. If I saw Diego was helpless, I would have stopped it myself.
Top Rank are sore losers. Just like calling Shane Mosley vs. Oscar De la Hoya a fix, now they're making a big deal about the mouthpiece. What about the low blows Castillo was landing? Chico never said anything about them. Watch the fight again and put it in slow motion. You'll see Castillo's head going from side to side and you'll know at that moment, Tony Weeks did the right thing. No fight is worth getting a fighter hurt badly.
You notice Bob Arum is not on this call? He's probably at breakfast with Jose Sulaiman trying to get an immediate rematch ordered. I think that would be terrible for boxing. We'll fight Castillo when we're ready. Maybe at a later date, maybe at a different weight. I'm taking Diego to Manchester to watch this next fight (Tszyu vs. Hatton) because maybe his next fight will be at 140.
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You know what? As long as they objected to the final results and disputed that he got his ass beat ... I wouldn't give him another shot either.
**** that ... let him earn his way to another title shot if he's so damn bad.
Shaolin Bushido 05-11-2005, 07:58 PM That IS a good point ... Castillo was bombing the **** outta his balls and that after Chico had pulled his shorts down nearly to his knees!
Look at the tape ... the first time he's hit low Chico actually pulled his shorts down as low on his hips as he could.
Course ... Chico was landing some hella rabbit punches too, heheheheh :boxing:
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 08:01 PM in my opinion, castillo was ALREADY winning the fight, and he has another 10-6 round in the bag with the 10th! he couldve easily boxed his way to a win, or at least been a bit more careful!
Be that it may, in the eyes of the judges (which are the only ones that matter) headed into that round Diego was already winning the fight. I highly doubt that after two knockdowns ANY FIGHTER ALIVE would try to box around Chico to a decision. They would go for the KO. Castillo lost because the other fighter was just a little better that night.
mic573 05-11-2005, 08:07 PM hahaha, if I recall correctly according to you Corrales could not beat Castillo either. So forgive me if I don't take your word on that one.
I gave him his praise for beating Castillo. I didn't expect it but I would still say Castillo beats him in a rematch and a rubbermatch. There is no doubt in my mind Corrales took more of a beating than Castillo did in that ring but he did have the punch and the loose mouthpiece to pull it out in the end. I know this is a business of money but Corrales is always talking about honor and respect well the respectable and honorable thing to do is give Castillo a rematch. That's all Castillo has asked for and he certainly deserves one.
.::|ULTIMATE|::. 05-11-2005, 08:09 PM I gave him his praise for beating Castillo. I didn't expect it but I would still say Castillo beats him in a rematch and a rubbermatch. There is no doubt in my mind Corrales took more of a beating than Castillo did in that ring but he did have the punch and the loose mouthpiece to pull it out in the end. I know this is a business of money but Corrales is always talking about honor and respect well the respectable and honorable thing to do is give Castillo a rematch. That's all Castillo has asked for and he certainly deserves one.
Good post.
m00ks 05-11-2005, 08:58 PM Be that it may, in the eyes of the judges (which are the only ones that matter) headed into that round Diego was already winning the fight. I highly doubt that after two knockdowns ANY FIGHTER ALIVE would try to box around Chico to a decision. They would go for the KO. Castillo lost because the other fighter was just a little better that night.
Castillo lost cuz he was careless. Chico wasn't a "little better" not even that night. Everyone gets caught.
NiGe2011 05-11-2005, 09:08 PM what's that miles away over there? oh it's just your credability going away like a bat out of hell...
m00ks 05-11-2005, 09:16 PM what's that miles away over there? oh it's just your credability going away like a bat out of hell...
lol hmmmm from my comments and your avatar, that comment was too expected :rolleyes: lol No **** you won't like what I have to say, but how is being a chico fanatic giving you more credability about this fight?
Super_Lightweight 05-11-2005, 09:51 PM There is nothing in the fight that suggests to me that Corrales could outbox Castillo. Everytime he started stepping back and jabbing Castillo would start jabbing as well and landing his as well. Corrales can not outbox Castillo.
Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner. Anyone who thinks Corrales can outbox Castillo for 12 rounds needs to watch the times when Corrales DID try to outbox him.
Corrales won fairly in my opinion, but it could have JUST as easily been him losing.
AintGottaClue 05-11-2005, 09:59 PM it wasnt 28 secs it was 20 and half that time was weeks takign a point away, u gotta blame him just as much as corrales if weeks would just puller him to the conor after he got up and poppe dthat mouthpeice in the fight coulda been started again earlier. JLC was dead on the ropes he should be thanking weeks for saving some of his career, u cant take shots from a big man like that wihtout getting hard, and hey JLC stil lhasnt been down yet.
Brz_Pugilist 05-11-2005, 10:17 PM This is a complete load of horsecrap!If anything Corrales should give Castillo his rematch.I felt like this thing was unsettle the way it ended.If u askd me, i think Corrales doesnt want to get hurt more then he is already!
xKillingJokex 05-11-2005, 11:38 PM I think Castillo definately deserves a rematch. He earned by his performance that night. Yes, Corrales won the fight..true..but im thinking that he feels he cant take another beating like that. And he did..take a beating..as did Castillo...i just wanna see these two guys in the ring again..so they can put on another fantastic fight.
Knicksman20 05-11-2005, 11:46 PM This was the best fight I've ever seen but I'm in the minority probably that thinks these 2 shouldn't fight again. These 2 guys are the hardest punchers in their division & probably have the most heart of any boxer. Their pride & being stubborn will get them hurt in the ring, especially against each other. As it is, neither fighter might not be the same after this fight. As much as I'm a fan & would love to see them brawl again, a part of me wishes that these 2 don't fight again for their own health's sake.
cupcrazy01 05-12-2005, 08:52 AM I understand the "they should never fight again" point of view on some level, specifically the reasoning that there's no way to top the first fight and they both took so much punishment, etc., but like everyone knows, money talks.
HBO could get greedy enough to throw alot of $$$ at Gary Shaw and co. and get Corrales-Castillo II on PPV either by the end of this year or next spring, if Corrales takes a fight in between ("soft" defense, although I can't see anything being soft after that fight). This would be HBO's way to "top" Showtime by getting the sequel and PPV revenue as a way to capitalize on the first fight. If I were Jay Larkin I would do my best to get it done on my network or block it from happening at all...I wonder if he could refuse HBO the rights to highlights if they indeed "steal" the rematch and put it on PPV.
Thoughts?
Stickman 05-12-2005, 09:50 AM When I saw this fight, my immediate thoughts were that these two should never step into the ring together again. Fights like this one seriously **** you up, and should be a once-in-a-career performance. Corrales won, Castillo lost, boo-hoo, get over it. Another fight between these two could put an end to the career of either (or both), and I'm not the least bit interested in seeing either one of these warriors sitting in a chair with permanent brain damage, or in a casket.
You guys calling for an immediate rematch need to think how you'd feel if it was your brother, son, etc. you were wanting to see in an immediate rematch after a fight like this.
AIR_KENG 05-12-2005, 10:08 AM Corrales's heart is also CHICO (little)just like his nickname - That's not the heart of a true warrior !!!
IMO he is just doing a barrera... what i mean is, savor the championship while they are still yours and keep away from people you know can beat you... not very brave if we come to think of it, but smart...
cupcrazy01 05-12-2005, 10:40 AM The difference between Corrales and Barrera, if I get your insinuation correct, is that Corrales has won his tough fights lately, and Barrera lost big to Pac and has since avoided a rematch. Castillo would be "pulling a Barrera" by your standards if he waited for Corrales to leave the division and then snatched the vacant belts while avoiding a rematch.
AIR_KENG 05-12-2005, 10:45 AM you got it wrong bro, i am not talking about castillo making a move ala-barrera... im talking about corrales doing some less damaging fights to enjoy his belts... after MAB got the title from erik, he does not really have plans on engaging with manny because manny gave him his worst beating... same with corrales, he isn't going to give castillo an immediate rematch because castillo beat him badly, and he felt it... going against him on his next fight is like giving castillo his belts back... he was lucky he won that fight... so i think he is going to do "a barrera" to make some more money and make his record better...
xKillingJokex 05-12-2005, 11:39 AM the arguement that they dont wanna see Castillo or Corrales hurt in a rematch..because of their violent first bout..is absurd..its boxing..you should expect to get hurt..or be hurt seriously at some point
AIR_KENG 05-12-2005, 11:59 AM the arguement that they dont wanna see Castillo or Corrales hurt in a rematch..because of their violent first bout..is absurd..its boxing..you should expect to get hurt..or be hurt seriously at some point
IMO they are just protecting their fighters... they should lay off for sometime and then slug it out again, maybe before the year ends or early next year... just not pair them on their next fight... there is also such a word as recover so let's give them the well deserved rest...
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