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yeah nick is open about smoking weed and stuff. he also doesnt give a **** about fans.. thats probably what they mean about playing the game

yeah nick is open about smoking weed and stuff. he also doesnt give a **** about fans.. thats probably what they mean about playing the game
He means that you have to submit to being Dana White's *****. The hospital fistfight story was just a means of diverting attention after he was questioned about what he meant. Not that it didn't potentially happen, but Dana is a wanna-be mafioso piece of ****.

I like Nick Diaz, he gets high off chronic and he is an elite level fighter, he literally defies the odds and does what isn't suppsed to be logically done in that sense, you'd think a fighter who smokes would have fatigue issues and stamina worries but Nick comes to fight for every minute in every round, the guy is a beast. I don't understand him not being in the UFC, yea he has a few screws loose but he's a fighter and fighting is all he knows in and OUT of the ring so you can expect something like what Dana said to happen but at heart where it counts Nick Diaz is definitely among the worlds Elite Welterweights in MMA

I like Nick Diaz, he gets high off chronic and he is an elite level fighter, he literally defies the odds and does what isn't suppsed to be logically done in that sense, you'd think a fighter who smokes would have fatigue issues and stamina worries but Nick comes to fight for every minute in every round, the guy is a beast. I don't understand him not being in the UFC, yea he has a few screws loose but he's a fighter and fighting is all he knows in and OUT of the ring so you can expect something like what Dana said to happen but at heart where it counts Nick Diaz is definitely among the worlds Elite Welterweights in MMA

i agree completly with that post

He means that you have to submit to being Dana White's *****. The hospital fistfight story was just a means of diverting attention after he was questioned about what he meant. Not that it didn't potentially happen, but Dana is a wanna-be mafioso piece of ****.

The hospital fight happend. Diaz koed Riggs at the hospital...

The hospital fight happend. Diaz koed Riggs at the hospital...
I believed that it had, and that wasn't the point. The point had to do with Dana's backtracking and doublespeak.

I like Nick Diaz, he gets high off chronic and he is an elite level fighter, he literally defies the odds and does what isn't suppsed to be logically done in that sense, you'd think a fighter who smokes would have fatigue issues and stamina worries but Nick comes to fight for every minute in every round, the guy is a beast. I don't understand him not being in the UFC, yea he has a few screws loose but he's a fighter and fighting is all he knows in and OUT of the ring so you can expect something like what Dana said to happen but at heart where it counts Nick Diaz is definitely among the worlds Elite Welterweights in MMA

Smoking weed does nothing in-conducive to your respiratory system. And I agree, I think once Nick clears out SF's weak WW division, the UFC has no choice but to sign him.

I hate the fact that the UFC has these rules as to how people should act outside the octagon. As an employer, why is it any of your business what the employee does when he isn't working for you? It's like they want to own the fighter, it's ridiculous.

I like Nick Diaz, he gets high off chronic and he is an elite level fighter, he literally defies the odds and does what isn't suppsed to be logically done in that sense, you'd think a fighter who smokes would have fatigue issues and stamina worries but Nick comes to fight for every minute in every round, the guy is a beast. I don't understand him not being in the UFC, yea he has a few screws loose but he's a fighter and fighting is all he knows in and OUT of the ring so you can expect something like what Dana said to happen but at heart where it counts Nick Diaz is definitely among the worlds Elite Welterweights in MMA

I agreed with you up until the last line. Nick isn't one of the elite 170lb'ers. Just look at his record at 170 as proof. At 170 he hasn't beaten anyone that is elite and has dropped fights to Diego Sanchez, Joe Riggs and Karo Parisyan who aren't an elite fighters at 170 and Sean Sherk who's a natural 155lb'er. His only noteworthy win at 170 is Robbie Lawler. This fight with Zaromskis was impressive but nothing to scream and shout about since Marius isn't an elite level 170lb'er either, he just had a hot run in 2009. However, I do believe that Nick had and still has the potential, moreso now, to be a top and maybe even elite level fighter at 170, but he needs to get some wins over some more established 170lb fighters. Unfortunately, they're few and far between unless you're in the UFC. The only one that comes to mind is his own teammate Jake Shields who probably wouldn't fight him and is now campaigning at 185. But who knows. Nick might smoke a big one and decide he wants to fight at heavyweight against Fedor.

I agreed with you up until the last line. Nick isn't one of the elite 170lb'ers. Just look at his record at 170 as proof. At 170 he hasn't beaten anyone that is elite and has dropped fights to Diego Sanchez, Joe Riggs and Karo Parisyan who aren't an elite fighters at 170 and Sean Sherk who's a natural 155lb'er. His only noteworthy win at 170 is Robbie Lawler. This fight with Zaromskis was impressive but nothing to scream and shout about since Marius isn't an elite level 170lb'er either, he just had a hot run in 2009. However, I do believe that Nick had and still has the potential, moreso now, to be a top and maybe even elite level fighter at 170, but he needs to get some wins over some more established 170lb fighters. Unfortunately, they're few and far between unless you're in the UFC. The only one that comes to mind is his own teammate Jake Shields who probably wouldn't fight him and is now campaigning at 185. But who knows. Nick might smoke a big one and decide he wants to fight at heavyweight against Fedor.

Look at those loses a little more closely. The Sanchez fight was really close, you can make an arguement about him winning the Parisyan fight and he was robbed at the Riggs fight. The only fights he really ever lost where to Jeremy Jackson and Sean Sherk. Diaz can make it a fight with anybody in the 170lb weight class.....

Smoking weed does nothing in-conducive to your respiratory system. And I agree, I think once Nick clears out SF's weak WW division, the UFC has no choice but to sign him.

I hate the fact that the UFC has these rules as to how people should act outside the octagon. As an employer, why is it any of your business what the employee does when he isn't working for you? It's like they want to own the fighter, it's ridiculous.

The sport is still really young and still trying to gain mainstream acceptance. The UFC, being the biggest promotion in the world obviously, carries the weight of making that happen. The UFC has to set the bar, and has to prove to the millions of people who want nothing more than to criticize and write the sport off as barbaric that there's no reason for them to do that. So for Dana to put Nick Diaz in the spotlight with a UFC shirt on while he's acting the way he does doesn't make much sense for the sport. The guy is a problematic personality IN and OUT of the cage, and IMO it's too much to risk by putting your reputation in his hands. Guys like Rampage and Leben have their occasional outbursts, but it's constant with Nick. If he cleaned up his act then Dana probably would have him back, there's no denying that he's good enough to compete in the UFC. He just has a **** attitude.

Look at those loses a little more closely. The Sanchez fight was really close, you can make an arguement about him winning the Parisyan fight and he was robbed at the Riggs fight. The only fights he really ever lost where to Jeremy Jackson and Sean Sherk. Diaz can make it a fight with anybody in the 170lb weight class.....

Sanchez and Karo beat him fair and square IMO, Riggs fight was controversial and probably should've gone the other way. All three fights were hard fought, but decisions aside, they weren't impressive performances which deserve the praise of being called an elite 170lb MMA fighter. All three of those guys aren't top flight 170lb'ers, they weren't then and they aren't now. Outside of the Lawler win he hasn't had a convincing victory against a top WW in his career. Guys like Jackson, Fickett, Neer, Tibau, Oishi or Lytle to name a few isn't exactly murderers row especially when you look at the top guys in the division. Has Nick improved? Absolutely, but his competition hasn't and some of the more impressive victories he had since those losses have come up against mid-level competition. With regards to the best fighters in the 170lb division now, I am in no doubts that he would be able to mix it up with them, but that's not what I was responding to, it's that I don't believe that he's an elite 170lb'er.

So you're saying he can hang with Elite fighters, he's just not elite himself? If he's second teir shouldn't elite fighter be able too run thru him?

So you're saying he can hang with Elite fighters, he's just not elite himself? If he's second teir shouldn't elite fighter be able too run thru him?

I'm saying his not one of the elite because he hasn't proven himself against the elite of the division as of yet. I stated already that I think he had and has even moreso now the POTENTIAL to be one of the elite, however, he hasn't proven it so far. Saying he can probably hang with the guys and him actually fighting and beating them are different things altogether. Every elite guy had to start at the bottom and work their way up to it and I'm sure many people believed they wouldn't just as much as those that believed that they would make it. Nick has shown the potential to become of these elite guys, but hasn't had that defining win or put a solid run at 170 to be considered one of them IMO. Would he get destroyed by the elite of the division? I don't think so. I'll never question the guy's toughness, both physically and mentally. Stylistically, I think he can pose some problems for a few of the top level guys, mainly the wrestler's who aren't as savvy on the feet or in submission skills. Victories over those guys aren't at all out of the question. I do think that anyone who can match or even outdo his pace and has good enough skills in the grappling aspect, mainly with defense and positioning especially, can beat him handily.

yeah nick is open about smoking weed and stuff. he also doesnt give a **** about fans.. thats probably what they mean about playing the game

Not true. Nick does care about the fans but he only cares about his REAL fans. He doesn't give a **** about fickle fans and he is vocal about it.

The hospital fight happend. Diaz koed Riggs at the hospital...

Nah. He didn't kayo Riggs. They faught but there was no knockout.

Look at those loses a little more closely. The Sanchez fight was really close, you can make an arguement about him winning the Parisyan fight and he was robbed at the Riggs fight. The only fights he really ever lost where to Jeremy Jackson and Sean Sherk. Diaz can make it a fight with anybody in the 170lb weight class.....

I agree with this. But Nick isn't elite. He has what it takes but he doesn't fight the top 10 guys anymore. Strikeforce's WW division isn't anything comapred to UFC's WW division.

If Nick was in the UFC, I have no doubt in my mind that he would easily be top 3 in the LW and WW division. He could definately be top 10 in the MW division. But the way he conducts himself, isn't exactly a good thing for the UFC.

Thinking in the way of a CEO. I would not invest money into Nick because he will bring negative press to the UFC. That is Dana's view on Nick. If Nick could at least "fake" himself when in front of the cameras, Nick would be in the UFC.

I do think Dana is full of **** to an extent.. that hospital fight happened at least 5 years ago when I was actually into MMA.. dana just used that as an excuse. the real reasons are probably more along the lines of him not being dana white's *****.

I do think Dana is full of **** to an extent.. that hospital fight happened at least 5 years ago when I was actually into MMA.. dana just used that as an excuse. the real reasons are probably more along the lines of him not being dana white's *****.

lol, it has nothing to do with being Dana's *****. It's about conducting yourself in a professional manner.

Does Roger Federer go around screaming curse words and smoking weed and pulling out of matches because of drug testing? Does Peyton Manning do any of that? How about Tim Duncan? GSP?

That is why Nick isn't with the UFC.

ok then. nice av