View Full Version : Something's up in D.C.


Bombardier
05-11-2005, 12:17 PM
Off MSNBC:

The U.S. Capitol and White House are being evacuated. Details soon.

Also on every other news site. Wonder what's going on?

Bombardier
05-11-2005, 12:19 PM
Oh, sounds like it's just some dumbass who flew his Cessna too close to the place.

dionysusolympus
05-11-2005, 12:20 PM
Nothing here (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7817210)

Bombardier
05-11-2005, 12:25 PM
I pulled this off of the article they have up there now about the incident. Doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the security they have over there:

Two weeks ago, an evacuation was ordered when a radar hit suggested a plane had entered the area. The hit turned out to be clouds.

dionysusolympus
05-11-2005, 12:29 PM
I saw that, too. I feel damn sorry for the clouds... :(

The Fix
05-11-2005, 12:35 PM
maybe they are taking george bush for a field trip as a reward for winning a second grade spelling bee ;) .

Wizard
05-11-2005, 01:58 PM
The Drama that CNN is pumping into this little scare tactic makes me shudder. I wouldn't doubt it if it was all staged to give them a chance to show the american people that their security measures are adequate enough to handle a situation like that. Just a thought.

NiGe2011
05-11-2005, 06:24 PM
The Bush regime trying to scare America into a frightened nationalist frenzy? It must be election time again.

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

neils7147933
05-11-2005, 06:38 PM
The Bush regime trying to scare America into a frightened nationalist frenzy? It must be election time again.

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

....anxiously awaiting a color-coded terror update with a flag in one hand and an assault rifle in another for anyone who hates my freedom lol

phallus
05-11-2005, 06:53 PM
damn, i can see terrible things happening because of this...a cloud threatened the white house ( it was probably an islamic cloud too ) and u know why, it's because americans have too much freedom

neils7147933
05-13-2005, 12:20 AM
damn, i can see terrible things happening because of this...a cloud threatened the white house ( it was probably an islamic cloud too ) and u know why, it's because americans have too much freedom
Bush's approval rating hit an all time low a week or so again. Guess it's time for something like this...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8814.htm

US Terror Alerts Were
Used As Electoral Weapons
By Chris Bowers
5-12-5

Via Parker's diary on the subject. Remember the chart that showed the relationship between Bush's approval rating and terror alters? The chart clearly suggested that terror alerts were used more frequently during times of unpopularity for Bush. Now, new evidence, from Tom Ridge himself, suggests that there was indeed massive outside pressure on the department on homeland to security to often raise the terror alert despite flimsy evidence:

The Bush administration periodically put the USA on high alert for terrorist attacks even though then-Homeland Security chief Tom Ridge argued there was only flimsy evidence to justify raising the threat level, Ridge now says.

Ridge, who resigned Feb. 1, said Tuesday that he often disagreed with administration officials who wanted to elevate the threat level to orange, or "high" risk of terrorist attack, but was overruled.

His comments at a Washington forum describe spirited debates over terrorist intelligence and provide rare insight into the inner workings of the nation's homeland security apparatus.

Ridge said he wanted to "debunk the myth" that his agency was responsible for repeatedly raising the alert under a color-coded system he unveiled in 2002.

"More often than not we were the least inclined to raise it," Ridge told reporters. "Sometimes we disagreed with the intelligence assessment. Sometimes we thought even if the intelligence was good, you don't necessarily put the country on (alert). ... There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?' "

Combined with what Ridge has said, and the chart linked above, can there be any doubt that the Bush administration was frequently raising the terror alerts to help his election chances and increase his political capital rather than to signal actual threats? As Parker says, Howard Dean was right. Terror alerts have undoubtedly been used as a electoral weapon rather than as a safety measure. For more on this subject, JuliusBlog.