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1) "I did not knowingly take a banned substance."
2) "The sample must be contaminated."
3) "I had sex 5 times the night before & a sixpack of beers. That musta elevated my levels." (famously used by US sprinter Dennis Mitchell)
4) "My competitors must have contaminated my toothpaste." (successfully argued by German distance runner Dieter Baumann
go here for the story - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/athletics/specials/european_athletics/2180907.stm
5) "They must have switched my sample with somebody else's"
I reckon he'll go for 1) or 3) :cool:
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 12:46 AM He'll say it must have been the preservatives in that case of twinkies he ate before the fight. Toney's a ***** who couldn't fight Ruiz without drugs. Rematch is due to resolve this.
Neuraxis 05-11-2005, 12:49 AM Don King slipped it in his cheeseburger.
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 12:53 AM I doubt that considering Toney exactly the fighter he'd rather have after Ruiz fails to be popular...Toney a big mouthed ***** who can draw through controversy. That's what King and this other nuthugging fans around here want.
Exciterx24 05-11-2005, 12:58 AM Toney might apologize for taking advice from Fernando Vargas prior to the fight.
jpboxer3 05-11-2005, 01:07 AM John Ruiz slipped the steroids into my plummer-crack. :D
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/8902PLUMMER_CRACK1.jpg
joeboxer 05-11-2005, 01:10 AM I hope they do this fight over so that Toney can Knock Ruiz out next time.
!! Mr. Soprano 05-11-2005, 01:15 AM John Ruiz slipped the steroids into my plummer-crack. :D
http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/8902PLUMMER_CRACK1.jpg
LOLOL
This is by far the best one LOL
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 01:16 AM I hope they do this fight over so that Toney can Knock Ruiz out next time.
Ha ha, never happen when Toney can't cheat like the ***** he is.
TONEY EXCUSE: "It must have been in Freddie Roach's semen."
Neuraxis 05-11-2005, 01:18 AM I hope they do this fight over so that Toney can Knock Ruiz out next time.
Impossible, Toney won't be able to fight for the WBA belt for 2 years.
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 01:21 AM Impossible, Toney won't be able to fight for the WBA belt for 2 years.
Thats the best news ever! Don't have to hear his stupid fat mouth and true champ Ruiz will knock him out after he unifies the division.
boxernyc 05-11-2005, 02:25 AM His excuse will probably be that he smoked pot and didn't have enough time (5 weeks for training) for it to leave his system.
neils7147933 05-11-2005, 08:39 AM Probably that he just thought it was a cream for his leg muscles that he got from Barry Bonds...
spinksjinx 05-11-2005, 08:50 AM Toney should be stripped and dropped from the rankings period. There should be no rematch as that is a "reward" or a second chance if you will for a cheater. Banish him all together and drop him out of the ranking completely.
Bombardier 05-11-2005, 08:58 AM Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson got caught at the olympics in '88 and claimed that someone (not-so-subtly hinting at Carl Lewis) must have sabotaged his water bottle. Considering the parallels with Wlad's poisoning story he might want to go with that.
AintGottaClue 05-11-2005, 09:17 AM this steriod **** is bull****. if the doc told him to take it whats toney suppose to do? not liek every fighter has a list of all banned stuff in there back pocket. the drug from what i hear helps rebuild muscles just a TINY bit keyword tiny!!!!. didnt toney tear a muscle in his arm after the booker fight? also did it look liek that drug that helps build muscle helped toney lmao he came in the fattest heavyest flabbiest of his career, i dont see how a drug that builds MUSCLE helped fat boy. i guess the side effects for this drug is an enlarged ass crack. and besides do we really want ruiz back lmao? toney wasnt pumping gallons into imself before this fight lol. maybe boxing needs to look a little farther into this.
spinksjinx 05-11-2005, 09:21 AM Just because Ruiz is unpopular doesnt give fighters the right to cheat against him. Rules are rules and Toney is an insecure little *****. Toney was injured in 2004 it is now May he would have healed in plenty of time.
No rules and no excuses, Toney was exposed for a fat piece of ****.
Truth 05-11-2005, 09:28 AM Toney should be stripped and dropped from the rankings period. There should be no rematch as that is a "reward" or a second chance if you will for a cheater. Banish him all together and drop him out of the ranking completely.
Jinx, no offense but seems like your a huge Ruiz fan who knew from the beginning that James Toney was going to win and that you have an excuse to use against Toney your jumping all of it.
ottoevans 05-11-2005, 09:28 AM my plan is we should all get together and kill Ruiz so he doenst have to fight again!!!!
VIVA LA ROVOLUCION!!!
if the doc told him to take it whats toney suppose to do? not liek every fighter has a list of all banned stuff in there back pocket.
a) Toney is responsible for what goes in his body, not his doctor.
b) Professional sportsmen ARE supposed to know what is & isn't on the banned list.
Verbl_Kint 05-11-2005, 09:32 AM Steroids are abundant in many medicines that help pulmonary and bronchial functions, like asthma and pneumonia medicine. Toney could take his alibi from there.
Truth 05-11-2005, 09:33 AM Its not definitley true yet...
EXIGE 05-11-2005, 09:33 AM I think jinx's point is fair. If some1 had cheated against u would u be saying, oh thats ok. NO U WOULDNT! If he cheats its unfair. I dont know why people hate ruiz, why is this?
Anyway no matter how hated some1 is they shouldnt be the victim of cheating. Which he isnt now. And jinx isnt a "huge fan" just cos he stuck up against cheating.
Think before u post
Truth 05-11-2005, 09:40 AM I think jinx's point is fair. If some1 had cheated against u would u be saying, oh thats ok. NO U WOULDNT! If he cheats its unfair. I dont know why people hate ruiz, why is this?
Anyway no matter how hated some1 is they shouldnt be the victim of cheating. Which he isnt now. And jinx isnt a "huge fan" just cos he stuck up against cheating.
Think before u post
But the whole thing seems like a bunch of angry Ruiz fans that were waiting for one thing to jump all over and they finally got it. Its kind of sickening. :D
Verbl_Kint 05-11-2005, 09:42 AM Innocent until proven guilty... except in pro sports and the entertainment industry. It has always been a double standard.
EXIGE 05-11-2005, 09:48 AM well nandrolone is a naturally occuring chemical. He could base an excuse around this fact, that is even if he does make an excuse.
He may say something along the lines of:
"unintentionally took it"
"must be in diet"
"naturally occuring"
Whatever it is. I believe he was cheating. Thats what you get. He will regret it now but was he really prepared to admit he done wrong. Like he wouldnt have admitted it if it came to no-ones attention so he should get most severe punishment.
Steroids are abundant in many medicines that help pulmonary and bronchial functions, like asthma and pneumonia medicine. Toney could take his alibi from there.
No excuse, unfortunately.
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 05:55 PM Just because Ruiz is unpopular doesnt give fighters the right to cheat against him. Rules are rules and Toney is an insecure little *****. Toney was injured in 2004 it is now May he would have healed in plenty of time.
No rules and no excuses, Toney was exposed for a fat piece of ****.
You are a wise man. That sig rules dude. No one deserves their belt stolen by cheating with drugs.
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 05:56 PM But the whole thing seems like a bunch of angry Ruiz fans that were waiting for one thing to jump all over and they finally got it. Its kind of sickening. :D
You kidding me? I'm the only Ruiz fan on this site, though I'm his #1 fan.
spinksjinx 05-11-2005, 06:02 PM Jinx, no offense but seems like your a huge Ruiz fan who knew from the beginning that James Toney was going to win and that you have an excuse to use against Toney your jumping all of it.
I wanted Toney to win, I bet on Ruiz and even stated previously before the fight that Ruiz would win...If you want I will be glad to dig it up for you with no problems, but really lets not squabble about that. Im really a fan of neither and always predicted Ruiz to beat the hell out of Toney with his traditional style and I ALWAYS knocked Toney for fighting Ruiz saying he would lose.
Infact I constantly said while Toney likes to fight on the ropes and fight inside his handspeed wont be a factor, Ruiz will smother those shots and hug him and he will be ineffective and to beat Ruiz you have to be fast on your feet.....
Find me a quote of mine where I said Toney would win.
On a side note, I repeatedly said I wouldnt give a damn if Toney would come out and admit it and NOT play the "prescribed" line that all athletes do.
Athleres who are open to their steroid use are easily cleared it is the ones who are in denial despite testing positive. Just come clean and be honest and I will be fair to you and that is all it is.
HONESTY.
The Pretender 05-11-2005, 06:56 PM Steroids are abundant in many medicines that help pulmonary and bronchial functions, like asthma and pneumonia medicine. Toney could take his alibi from there.
I posted this in another thread but here it is again.
There are CORTICOsteroids and ANABOLICsteroids. Corticosteroids are prescribed for injuries and illness. ANABOLICsteroids are performance enhancing and used for sports to mimic the body's natural testosterone production.
Toney tested positive for ANABOLICsteroids.
Corticosteroids and anabolicsteroids are two totally different things.
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