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lince 02-03-2010, 05:24 PM Hi I'm new to this forum. Does anyone have a diet to lose weight? I'm trying to lose 7 pounds as quickly as possible. I'm looking for something more than a food list. Something like a ready-made diet. I am training 3 days a week and the other two running about 45 minutes. Thanks for your help
Double Jab 02-03-2010, 05:27 PM Hi I'm new to this forum. Does anyone have a diet to lose weight? I'm trying to lose 7 pounds as quickly as possible. I'm looking for something more than a food list. Something like a ready-made diet. I am training 3 days a week and the other two running about 45 minutes. Thanks for your help
How much do you weigh now?
GroundSt.Pound 02-03-2010, 09:04 PM Losing weight fast is not smart. It's a process that involves patience. Losing too much weight too fast can be unhealthy for the body physically and mentally.
However the key to losing weight is to simply eat less, and eat healthy.
To lose weight you need a calorie deficit, to gain you need an calorie surplus.
So cut your current calorie intake by a few hundred calories daily and as the weight starts to come off, slowy keep increasing that deficit.
Try eating in small portions instead of 3 big square meals. It will keep your metabolism going which will help with weight loss.
I hope this helps
lince 02-04-2010, 03:11 AM How much do you weigh now?
I weigh 171 pound. But I would like weigh 167 to beginn my first bout in a few months (2-3). Of course in amateur!!
thanks.
lince 02-04-2010, 03:13 AM Losing weight fast is not smart. It's a process that involves patience. Losing too much weight too fast can be unhealthy for the body physically and mentally.
However the key to losing weight is to simply eat less, and eat healthy.
To lose weight you need a calorie deficit, to gain you need an calorie surplus.
So cut your current calorie intake by a few hundred calories daily and as the weight starts to come off, slowy keep increasing that deficit.
Try eating in small portions instead of 3 big square meals. It will keep your metabolism going which will help with weight loss.
I hope this helps
Thanks for your answer. I'll try to do these tips and training strong!
Double Jab 02-04-2010, 01:03 PM I weigh 171 pound. But I would like weigh 167 to beginn my first bout in a few months (2-3). Of course in amateur!!
thanks.
Ok, part two. There are three ways to do this.
Do you just want the scale to say 164 instead of 171? Because you can drop that much in water weight the day before relativley easily. (1 day)
or
Do you want to drop the weight as fast as possible, forgeting the consequences and how you feel? (2 weeks)
or
Do you want to do it a bit slower, but make sure most of all the weight that is lost is fat? (1-1 1/2 months)
EzzardFan 02-04-2010, 08:44 PM Get the book by Jason Vale titled "7 pounds in 7 days". I'm a big fan of his methods because you retain plenty of energy for training, and burn off fat really quickly. I think this is the future of sports nutrition. Have been using his methods myself for 6 months and have no problem controlling my weight... and I'm 39 now.
Double Jab 02-04-2010, 08:46 PM Get the book by Jason Vale titled "7 pounds in 7 days". I'm a big fan of his methods because you retain plenty of energy for training, and burn off fat really quickly. I think this is the future of sports nutrition. Have been using his methods myself for 6 months and have no problem controlling my weight... and I'm 39 now.
Do you think you could give us a basic summary of why Jason Vale's system is a beneficial dietary idea? Certain beliefs or restrictions?
DeepSleep 02-05-2010, 02:13 AM Losing weight fast is not smart. It's a process that involves patience. Losing too much weight too fast can be unhealthy for the body physically and mentally.
However the key to losing weight is to simply eat less, and eat healthy.
To lose weight you need a calorie deficit, to gain you need an calorie surplus.
So cut your current calorie intake by a few hundred calories daily and as the weight starts to come off, slowy keep increasing that deficit.
Try eating in small portions instead of 3 big square meals. It will keep your metabolism going which will help with weight loss.
I hope this helps
You typed up exactly what I was going to type up. Second this ^^^.
Weight comes down to Calories burned vs. Calories consumed. Any fancy diet or program is unnecessary, just count how many calories you consume and adjust until you lose around a steady 1or 2 lbs a week. Than continue till you reach your goal.
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EzzardFan 02-05-2010, 06:45 AM Hi I'm new to this forum. Does anyone have a diet to lose weight? I'm trying to lose 7 pounds as quickly as possible. I'm looking for something more than a food list. Something like a ready-made diet. I am training 3 days a week and the other two running about 45 minutes. Thanks for your help
Do you think you could give us a basic summary of why Jason Vale's system is a beneficial dietary idea? Certain beliefs or restrictions?
Certainly. Jason has written several books on this subject but goes to pains to point out that he is not actually the originator of this approach, just one of the more gifted documenters. Nothing is actually prohibited, it's just explained why you are better off avoiding or reducing certain things.
So to summarise, this is my own slant on it tuned for boxing:
Avoid
processed and refined foods
sugar
artificial sweetners
food additives
white starches such as white bread, white pasta, white rice, potatoes
cow dairy
red meat
alcohol
cow dairy
acid forming foods
salt
smoking
protein supplements etc
Reduce
dairy
wheat
meat
fruit juice
Good Food
organic whole foods
wholemeal and wholegrain carbs
anything that doesn't require a label
fresh organic veg
fresh organic fruit
organic free range white meat
wheatgrass
avocado
spirulina
kombucha tea
green tea
sprouts
raw food
alkalising foods
pulses
seeds
salads
organic honey
The Science
White starches and sugars ****e blood sugar causing overproduction of insulin to compensate. The surplus insulin is then stored as fat. The same made also be true of artificial sweeteners. These foods destabilise blood sugar levels and cause false hunger and cravings for more white starches and sugar, leading to over eating and tiredness.
The strategy
Only eat when you are hungry.
Eat slowly and chew the food well.
Stop eating when you begin to feel full.
Eat alkalising foods.
Juice the vegetables raw in your own juicer.
Eat fruit (the sugars in the fruit are used to break down the fibre in the fruit). You can also make fruit smoothies with a blender.
Drink more water, especially first thing in the morning.
Take wheatgrass first thing in the morning 30 mins before anything else.
Have a 36 hours water fast every so often.
Have some juice only days. Juice fasting leaves you with ample energy to train BTW.
The Method
Eat an avocado most days.
The following should be juiced. Apples, pears, spinach, carrot, celery, sweet potato, brussels sprouts, green beens, peas, cucumber, squash, beetroot, kale, red cabbage, pomegranate, peppers, ginger... you name it veg wise but avoid parsnips. Chillis and garlic should be used with caution. Add some lemon or lime as preservative.
The following should be blended: raspberries, strawberries, blueberries, blackberries, papaya, avocado, figs, apricots, kiwi fruit... pretty much any fruit.
Supplement wise add acidopholus, spirulina, soy letchin, wheatgerm, udos oil, malkosan.
You can mix fruit smoothies with veg juices if required.
Drink 1/2 pint - 1 pint of juice/smoothie 30 mins before every meal.
If you eat meat then eat some papaya beforehand.
All the carbs are slow burning and provide long-term energy as opposed to blood sugar ****es. Digestion is massively enhanced improving food absorption and protein, nutrient, mineral, and vitamin extraction. You get leaner and build muscle very easily. You have an abundance of energy, have no trouble sleeping, and never feel hungry of tired.
Pretty much everything you need to know can be found in this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Juice-Master-Slim-Life-Freedom/dp/0007284926/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265370356&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Juice-Master-Slim-Life-Freedom/dp/0007284926/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1265370390&sr=8-2
lince 02-08-2010, 10:17 AM Ok, part two. There are three ways to do this.
Do you just want the scale to say 164 instead of 171? Because you can drop that much in water weight the day before relativley easily. (1 day)
or
Do you want to drop the weight as fast as possible, forgeting the consequences and how you feel? (2 weeks)
or
Do you want to do it a bit slower, but make sure most of all the weight that is lost is fat? (1-1 1/2 months)
I think I want the third way. I don't have to fight in a few weeks or months. I wanna lose these pounds to be in this weigh.
thanks!
Double Jab 02-09-2010, 01:10 PM I think I want the third way. I don't have to fight in a few weeks or months. I wanna lose these pounds to be in this weigh.
thanks!
Alright, before you continue reading my post I have to say one thing
This is only what has worked for me. I will not say this is the know all end all to all diets, this is not a perfect system. I could be wrong, and I have been wrong before. I am simply letting you know what I have done myself to lose weight.
*NOTE* If you want the gist of this post, go to the end.
Well, first thing, I am going to make a completely random guess, and say you are about 135-140 lbs of lean muscle mass. (i used to walk around 240lbs and turns out i was only 148 lbs, so im just going on the safe side.)
So, lean muscle mass x 10 = calories needed for keeping the same muscle.
Im going to say 1350. Now, the amount of protein needed I use is on a scale from .5 per lb to 1 per lb to keep the same muscle. .5 being no exercise, 1 being intense. Considering how much you work out, I am going to guess .8 just to be safe.
Alright, so with that math, 135 x .8 = 108 g of protein, and 1350 cals to maintain lean body mass.
Now that we have those numbers, here comes more math. My personal favorite percentage breakup is 40% carbs, 30% fat, and 30% protein. This gives me energy, makes me friendly and happy from the fats, and the protein keeps my musclese running. Some people do 50/20/30, or 60/20/20, I just have found 40/30/30 to work best for me.
Now, 1 g of carbs or protein, = 4 calories, and 1 g of fat, is 9 calories.
We need to find protein, so what is 30% of 1350? 405 calories in protein. divide by 4, 101.25 grams of protein. Very close to 108. Easy enough. Now lets do fat. Same 30%, 405, divided by 9 this time, = 45. So 45 gs of fat.
Lastly, carbs. 40% of 1350 = 540 calories. divide by 4, 135 g carbs.
So what are those numbers?
So maintain your workout level, and have a pretty even split of calorie intake, and maintain your lean body mass, you should be eating
135 grams of carbs
102 grams of protein
45 grams of fat
Now, taking into account workout demand for the likes of protein shakes and whatnot for after workouts, (and considering you burn about 500 cals each weekday just from exercise (45 min jog vs. 1 hr of walking at 3 mph burns roughly 300 calories, 45 jog at 5 mph or 6 mph is easily 500 calories burned))
I want to roughly add on 200 calories. So 40%? 80 divided by 4 = 20, so 20 more carbs. 30%? 60 divided by 4 = 15. and 60 divided by 9 = 6.67,. So lets add those up, and skim just the weird numbers off.
155 g carbs
115 g protein
52 g fat
and this is roughly 1530 calories. You weight 171 which means at least you burn 1710 a day. so thats a rough 200 calorie deficiet right there. Add on the 500 cal a day workout for 5 days a week, that adds up to be 700 x 5 days a week and 200 x 2 days a week, or 3900 calorie deficiet a week. One lb of fat is 3500 calories, so 7 lbs is roughly going to be 6 or seven weeks if you stick to it (like I said, might take a little bit), but it will be mostly fat burned (rather than muscle), and you will still have energy and such to stick to these workouts.
*The gist of the post*
You, lince, should eat this
155 grams of carbs
115 grams of protein
52 grams of fat
per day.
Dont worry about the calories, that does not matter. Just worry about the grams.
Doesn't matter what you eat, you could eat chocolate if you wanted to, because it has lots of fat and carbs. So if you have alot of fat and carbs to fill up, hell, have chocolate. Just get as close to those numbers as you can without going over.
If my calculations are correct, you should burn roughly 1 lb of pure fat a week, while still feeling decently good.
So, no food list of what to eat, what not to eat. Eat whatever the hell you want, just make sure it doesnt exceed
155 g carbs
115 g protein
and 52 g fat.
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