View Full Version : TONEY VS. BYRD - Jul 23rd!!! Boxrec.com


!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 11:47 AM
Before you read further, of course we all know this is probably no longer the case (May11, 12:56AM EST)
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Wow - This What We All Hoped For!

IBF Heavyweight Title
WBA Heavyweight Title
IBA Heavyweight Title
:D

The Pretender
05-10-2005, 12:08 PM
Wow - This What We All Hoped For!

IBF Heavyweight Title
WBA Heavyweight Title
IBA Heavyweight Title
:D

What you mean by that. There should only be 2 belts unified by this. Still good news.

Gee look how fast fights are made when the fighters aren't ducking. Byrd was too chicken**** to fight Ruiz. At least Toney had the balls. Byrd gonna lose becaue Toney beat a true champ like Ruiz.

Brz_Pugilist
05-10-2005, 12:10 PM
Decent fight,cant wait to see it.Toney better in shape this time around. :boxing:

BANE206
05-10-2005, 12:12 PM
This should be a good fight, i think Toney 12 UD

spinksjinx
05-10-2005, 12:16 PM
What you mean by that. There should only be 2 belts unified by this. Still good news.

Gee look how fast fights are made when the fighters aren't ducking. Byrd was too chicken**** to fight Ruiz. At least Toney had the balls. Byrd gonna lose becaue Toney beat a true champ like Ruiz.


Toney holds the IBA heavyweight belt.

God I cant wait, thanks Vdiary for the heads up. I am definately there any tips on when tix will go on sale?

AintGottaClue
05-10-2005, 12:16 PM
think the winner of this fight gets wlad next?

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 12:20 PM
think the winner of this fight gets wlad next?
It only took 6 posts to get Wlad's name into the thread....lol

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 12:20 PM
What you mean by that. There should only be 2 belts unified by this. Still good news.

Gee look how fast fights are made when the fighters aren't ducking. Byrd was too chicken**** to fight Ruiz. At least Toney had the balls. Byrd gonna lose becaue Toney beat a true champ like Ruiz.

The IBA belt is a very minor one that Toney won by beating....RYDELL BOOKER!

spinksjinx
05-10-2005, 12:21 PM
think the winner of this fight gets wlad next?


Wlad wont be involved in ****, the winner of the golota/lamon fight will probably fight Ruiz or the winner of Toney/Byrd. As well with winner of Rahman/Barrett or Klitschko.


Unified champ is coming into the heavyweight division!

YEAH!

AintGottaClue
05-10-2005, 12:22 PM
It only took 6 posts to get Wlad's name into the thread....lol



well srry i didnt know i wasnt aloud to use that word, i feel bad now knowing i ruined your day. it was a question dumb****

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 12:36 PM
well srry i didnt know i wasnt aloud to use that word, i feel bad now knowing i ruined your day. it was a question dumb****
My day wasn't ruined. Klitschko fans amuse me...

AintGottaClue
05-10-2005, 12:42 PM
My day wasn't ruined. Klitschko fans amuse me...


and the haters amuse me as well

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 12:52 PM
and the haters amuse me as well
All I'm saying is that as soon as anyone on these boards praises a heavyweight fighter, or people start talking about championship belts, some Wlad fan has to pipe in and say that 1) Wlad deserves a shot; 2) the prospect couldn't beat Wlad; 3) Wlad is being ducked; 4) If you don't think Wlad is the best heavyweight you must be a hater or 5)Wlad was poisoned by the bigots against Brewster, COrrie Sanders is He-Man, and Wlad's corner blew it vs. Purrity

BTW, I defended Sturm against his low boxrec rating a few posts up.

Maybe I'm not really a "dumb****"? lol

The Troll
05-10-2005, 12:58 PM
This is gonna be a hard fight for Toney because Byrd moves on his feet alot better than Toney and he is taller than Toney, and both of them are defensive fighters. Toney always has had trouble against defensive boxers, like Montell Griffen. I think Toney will win though because he has faster hands and alot more pop in his punches than Byrd. Byrd is a smart fighter but Toney is smarter. If Toney gets to fight Byrd on the inside Toney will maul him to an easy UD PTS or stoppage. Toney has to come forward against Byrd and keep the action on the inside. Byrd will do his best to stay at distance of Toney, but I think Toney will find a way to work his way in and he will own Byrd on the inside. If Toney lands some of those big rights on Byrd, Byrd might go down. But Byrd showed a good chin against Wladimir Klistchko, Vitali Klistchko, Jameel McCline, and Golota.

Byrd has a good chin but Toney has a concrete chin, and a concrete body too, Byrd can be hurt to the body you saw that against Golota and Toney is a pretty vicious body puncher, that might become a factor in the fight.

Brz_Pugilist
05-10-2005, 01:03 PM
Byrd has a height advantage but i never been a fan of Chris Byrd.The guy is scare to slug it out.I think Toney will win this fight.

jack_the_rippuh
05-10-2005, 01:05 PM
Once Toney disposes of Chris Byrd on my birthday, he will be the true champ of the heavyweight division, atleast in my book he will.

SacTown1
05-10-2005, 01:09 PM
Once Toney disposes of Chris Byrd on my birthday, he will be the true champ of the heavyweight division, atleast in my book he will.
NO DOUBT, basically the first heavyweight that unifies will be the People's Champ, since Quitali has decided that he doesn't want to defend his gory green belt he has lost all of his credibility....

TONEY IS KING OF THE RING

enadeus
05-10-2005, 01:13 PM
Byrd would beat Toney in UD.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 01:21 PM
Byrd does not have what it takes to KO Toney.
However Toney has what it takes to outbox Byrd..

Toney By UD..

AintGottaClue
05-10-2005, 01:24 PM
All I'm saying is that as soon as anyone on these boards praises a heavyweight fighter, or people start talking about championship belts, some Wlad fan has to pipe in and say that 1) Wlad deserves a shot; 2) the prospect couldn't beat Wlad; 3) Wlad is being ducked; 4) If you don't think Wlad is the best heavyweight you must be a hater or 5)Wlad was poisoned by the bigots against Brewster, COrrie Sanders is He-Man, and Wlad's corner blew it vs. Purrity

BTW, I defended Sturm against his low boxrec rating a few posts up.

Maybe I'm not really a "dumb****"? lol


im not a big wlad fan, im a vitlai nut hugger, but byrd ducked wlad and he was drugged vs brewster, and he will get a title shot and since vitali sint fighting till september and the winner of brew/golota has to fight the winner of whitaker/kranqi. maybe wald or peter will get a shot at toney/byrd. thats all i was saying.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 01:27 PM
NO DOUBT, basically the first heavyweight that unifies will be the People's Champ, since Quitali has decided that he doesn't want to defend his gory green belt he has lost all of his credibility....

TONEY IS KING OF THE RING
Would you like some cheese with your "wine"??
The man was injured and no matter what he has to fight come Sept 24th.
There is no way he will give up his belt.. and until he does, stop whining!

No one was calling Toney a quitter when he was injured..

SacTown1
05-10-2005, 01:29 PM
you guys REALLY think Don King is going to risk another heavyweight title belt vs. Toney?????

COME ON!!!!!

Toney-Byrd ain't happening any time soon

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 01:32 PM
you guys REALLY think Don King is going to risk another heavyweight title belt vs. Toney?????

COME ON!!!!!

Toney-Byrd ain't happening any time soon
No, what King wants to do is take one back!

It would be a double, or nothing bet..

AintGottaClue
05-10-2005, 01:32 PM
you guys REALLY think Don King is going to risk another heavyweight title belt vs. Toney?????

COME ON!!!!!

Toney-Byrd ain't happening any time soon


toney is a king fighter now bro, he signed with him before the ruiz fight if im not mistaken

Brz_Pugilist
05-10-2005, 01:35 PM
Toney will beat Byrd, but i just dont see how Toney would fight Vitali, i am not a fan of the Klitschkos but my feeling is that Vitali would beat Toney.

The Pretender
05-10-2005, 01:45 PM
you guys REALLY think Don King is going to risk another heavyweight title belt vs. Toney?????

COME ON!!!!!

Toney-Byrd ain't happening any time soon

Are you dumb? It's already in ink. Toney do anything than try and get lucky again with Ruiz.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 01:59 PM
I don't believe this is true.
I read somewhere (can't remember where) That DK partially owns Toney.

Grimgash
05-10-2005, 02:06 PM
I don't think that Toney can outbox Byrd from the outside. Unless Toney decides to actually progress toward Byrd and lead the offensive hes not going to win. Anyhow wether Brewster/Golota or Toney/Byrd or Ruiz fights Vitali I hope they beat him.... and if they don't I hope Wlad never gets a shot/wins a HWT title because with both Clits champs you'll see no unification and well that makes fora boring division. I'd like to see Ruiz take out Brewster/Golota then Vitali. Toney beat Byrd and then rematch for the 4 major titles.... go ruiz : P

Prince Harry
05-10-2005, 02:10 PM
the real deal is to keep the titles american.. you know, the portayal of us infantry as though and somewhat capable.. :o

wanna know why don king ain in jail..? cause hes an operative!!

the whole thing has the credibility of wwf :) and allways has.

vitali is getting a us citicenship (oh hes sincere) and wouldent got anywhere without it..

everybodys buisy ducking nickolai valuev and the russian nightmares, and thats the trouth!!

dansweeney
05-10-2005, 02:11 PM
well srry i didnt know i wasnt aloud to use that word, i feel bad now knowing i ruined your day. it was a question dumb****


a pretty dumb one at that..........

Grimgash
05-10-2005, 02:14 PM
The only reason people are scared of Valuev is because hes one ugly mother...... no one wants to see him as champ. Can u imagine him wearing "accesorries" ? lol Im just kidding.... or am i?

Prince Harry
05-10-2005, 02:19 PM
The only reason people are scared of Valuev is because hes one ugly mother...... no one wants to see him as champ. Can u imagine him wearing "accesorries" ? lol Im just kidding.... or am i?

this isent a beuty contest, bambi!

by the way, terror is beuty and valuev is mr universe! ;)

Bombardier
05-10-2005, 02:19 PM
Byrd does not have what it takes to KO Toney.
However Toney has what it takes to outbox Byrd..


Best 19-word assessment you're going to get about this fight. I agree.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 02:39 PM
Best 19-word assessment you're going to get about this fight. I agree.Well, Thank you kindly ;) LOL

Martin (Top Knowledge)
05-10-2005, 02:46 PM
If Toney beats Byrd, or Byrd beats Toney, D'you reckon people will start calling them the REAL heavyweight champion?

I hope not!

I think that if you wanna call yourself the heavyweight champion of the World, you've gotta fight and beat Vitali Klitscho.

Truth
05-10-2005, 02:48 PM
Wow - This What We All Hoped For!

IBF Heavyweight Title
WBA Heavyweight Title
IBA Heavyweight Title
:D

This is great :cool: , good job vdiary on reporting this. Will this be a PPV? or HBO/Showtime?

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 02:50 PM
If Toney beats Byrd, or Byrd beats Toney, D'you reckon people will start calling them the REAL heavyweight champion?

I hope not!

I think that if you wanna call yourself the heavyweight champion of the World, you've gotta fight and beat Vitali Klitscho.

If Byrd beats Toney, he'll have the WBA and IBF belts, a win over WBC champ Vitali Klitchko - and because of the whole WBA/WBO mess where you can't simultaneously hold both belts (unless you're a "Super" WBA champ like Hopkins), that's as true of a heavyweight champion as we've had since Lewis.

Like a previous poster said, Vitali needs to be a defending champion against top contenders. Carefully choosing ranked fatasses who don't move and fighting them once per year is not endearing him to the non-nuthugging boxing fan...

neils7147933
05-10-2005, 02:54 PM
This is great :cool: , good job vdiary on reporting this. Will this be a PPV? or HBO/Showtime?

There's no way this isn't PPV.


Here's the lineup of the card:

Hasim Rahman vs. Monte Barrett, WBC Interim Heavyweight Title
James Toney vs Chris Byrd, WBA, IBF, IBA Heavyweight Title
Javier Castillejo vs. Ricardo Mayorga, WBC Light Middleweight Title
Luis Collazo vs. TBA, WBA Welterweight Title
Luis Alberto Perez vs. Gerson Guerrero, IBF Super Flyweight Title

Looks like a 50 dollar job to me...

fight fan
05-10-2005, 03:01 PM
Byrd has a height advantage but i never been a fan of Chris Byrd.The guy is scare to slug it out.I think Toney will win this fight.

Like him or not! Chris Byrd hasn't shown me any sign of fear! He slugs it out all the time! He slugged it out with McCline and he fought Golota at close quarters for most of their fight. He has been in the ring with Tua as well. The only fighter he did not fight was Lewis because he never got a shot at him. Of all the criticism I can give scared would not be one of them describing Chris Byrd.

Floydmayweather
05-10-2005, 03:27 PM
Toney will ko Byrd his punches will do nothing to Toney and Toney will not respect him. He will get in close and use his counterpunching to wear byrd down, by round 9 or 10 he will knock him out. ;)

riz
05-10-2005, 03:32 PM
probly byrd gona counter punch, n he's much faster than any HW toney has faced. either fighter SD12

KJ
05-10-2005, 04:20 PM
well srry i didnt know i wasnt aloud to use that word, i feel bad now knowing i ruined your day. it was a question dumb****

Great signature: "dumb****".
;)

KJ
05-10-2005, 04:28 PM
Good news indeed.

Toney is a patient fighter, with fast hands. With his style I believe Toney will to be able to disrupt Byrd’s rhythm, like Ibeabuchi did. Toney will win on points or a late round KO.

The Pretender
05-10-2005, 04:45 PM
Like him or not! Chris Byrd hasn't shown me any sign of fear! He slugs it out all the time! He slugged it out with McCline and he fought Golota at close quarters for most of their fight. He has been in the ring with Tua as well. The only fighter he did not fight was Lewis because he never got a shot at him. Of all the criticism I can give scared would not be one of them describing Chris Byrd.

Oh give me a break! Ruiz challeneged Byrd over and over and he ducked every time. Byrd wouldn't fight Wlad either! Byrd is a chicken so its a fitting name he has!

AintGottaClue
05-10-2005, 04:47 PM
i hope byrd wins so he can fight vitali again so he can continue the ass handing byrd gets when he fights a klitschko lol and with a win hopfully people will let up on the quit thing which i doubt, anything the haters can get to downgrade vitali they'll never let go.

Tha Greatest
05-10-2005, 04:48 PM
Byrd will beat him easily......

Byrd the next undisputed heavyweight champion of the world?

If he can get past Brewster and Toney then he shall be...

The Pretender
05-10-2005, 04:54 PM
Byrd will beat him easily......

Byrd the next undisputed heavyweight champion of the world?

If he can get past Brewster and Toney then he shall be...

Undisputed champ? Byrd? HA. Byrd get KTFO by Ruiz.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 04:57 PM
Just posted Breaking news on Toney
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35411

He might be taking streroid..
If this is proven to be true.. Ruiz is champ again! This is the reason why he unretired.


F*&#^^!!!!!!!!!!11

The Pretender
05-10-2005, 05:00 PM
Yeah because that cheating fat **** of a twinkie Toney had to CHEAT to beat a true world champion like Ruiz! May he go to hell for trying to steal the belt from the peoples' champion!

Anghell
05-10-2005, 05:11 PM
Let's not jump to conclusions on this banned substance thing, nothing has be proven so far. I hope Toney and Byrd go at it. I got to go with Toney cause Byrd has looked bad in his last couple of fights. Toney does have to lose about 20 pounds if he fights Bryd, he should comein weighting about 215

Truth
05-10-2005, 05:14 PM
Just posted Breaking news on Toney
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35411

He might be taking streroid..
If this is proven to be true.. Ruiz is champ again! This is the reason why he unretired.


F*&#^^!!!!!!!!!!11

vdiary posted the best thread of the day and the most contorversial thread of the day. Good job. :D

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 05:17 PM
Hurray!

Thank You :D :p

cupcrazy01
05-10-2005, 05:17 PM
I'd rather all fights be canceled for the next month (or postponed) than have Ruiz be champ again...DEAR LORD NO!!!

GranTorino
05-10-2005, 05:18 PM
All I'm saying is that as soon as anyone on these boards praises a heavyweight fighter, or people start talking about championship belts, some Wlad fan has to pipe in and say that 1) Wlad deserves a shot; 2) the prospect couldn't beat Wlad; 3) Wlad is being ducked; 4) If you don't think Wlad is the best heavyweight you must be a hater or 5)Wlad was poisoned by the bigots against Brewster, COrrie Sanders is He-Man, and Wlad's corner blew it vs. Purrity

BTW, I defended Sturm against his low boxrec rating a few posts up.

Maybe I'm not really a "dumb****"? lol

No, no, you are.

GranTorino
05-10-2005, 05:20 PM
NO DOUBT, basically the first heavyweight that unifies will be the People's Champ, since Quitali has decided that he doesn't want to defend his gory green belt he has lost all of his credibility....

TONEY IS KING OF THE RING


Umm, you do know you're a dumb****, don't you?

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 05:21 PM
Well, if true, one thing I was right about is about "Phoney" :-(

Truth
05-10-2005, 05:27 PM
Well, if true, one thing I was right about is about "Phoney" :-(

Well not really, you see if you know boxing(not trying to say you don't)you know that realisticly even if you don't like him James Toney is an all time great.

Tha Greatest
05-10-2005, 05:28 PM
All I know is Byrd can take Toney...

Toney can't fight runners..

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 05:29 PM
Well not really, you see if you know boxing(not trying to say you don't)you know that realisticly even if you don't like him James Toney is an all time great.
I think he is a great boxer, very skilled, and with the most natural talent after RJJ.
It's his mouth I hate. If he would just shut up, I would be his biggest fan. Come on, a smaller guy wanting to fight the big dogs? I'm always in favor of that.

run_for_your_effing_life
05-10-2005, 06:24 PM
if tony hits the gym this should be EZ for him...I use to like byrd but he needs to step his game up

!! Mr. Soprano
05-10-2005, 11:35 PM
if tony hits the gym this should be EZ for him...I use to like byrd but he needs to step his game up
It looks like Toney might have been hitting other things as well.

jpboxer3
05-10-2005, 11:53 PM
Might not happen.

wow!

http://*********.com/

The Pretender
05-11-2005, 12:45 AM
Byrd has no reason to fight a cheating ***** like Toney. Especially when he gives the belt back to Ruiz.

Neuraxis
05-11-2005, 12:47 AM
Byrd has no reason to fight a cheating ***** like Toney. Especially when he gives the belt back to Ruiz.

True...but what are his other options?
http://www.miniatur-wunderland.de/php/galerie/pictures/99_Vips/_thm/thm_wladimir.klitschko.jpg

The Pretender
05-11-2005, 12:51 AM
True...but what are his other options?
http://www.miniatur-wunderland.de/php/galerie/pictures/99_Vips/_thm/thm_wladimir.klitschko.jpg

Well, if Ruiz gets his belt back now Byrd has ZERO excuses left to duck him. Taking a fight with Toney for the belt but not with Ruiz...why? Because he afraid of Ruiz? Byrd needs to grow some balls because he ducks Wlad and Ruiz...what's his problem.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-11-2005, 12:52 AM
That's what I want to know...

This is what I posted under another thread
Since it's in MSG, Toney will probably be suspended in NY State (if not Nationwide) If Ruiz doesn't want to fight, who will it be??
The below are in line to his throne...
1. MONTE BARRETT
2. HASIM RAHMAN
3. WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO

!! Mr. Soprano
05-11-2005, 12:54 AM
True...but what are his other options?
http://www.miniatur-wunderland.de/php/galerie/pictures/99_Vips/_thm/thm_wladimir.klitschko.jpg
Also don't forget that King does not want to unify his champs..

The Pretender
05-11-2005, 12:54 AM
Why would you think Ruiz wouldn't want to fight? He just said today he wants the belt back and would fight anyone anywhere.

GROCERYGETTERS
05-11-2005, 01:01 AM
Wow... this should be an awesome fight. Two guys who have speed and who are slick. Tough fight to call. I'm glad Toney and Bird are willing to put their belts on the line unlike other title holders. This will make the heavyweight division a lil more interesting than it has in the past. Bird talks some smack too. Lets now forget though, he was all quiet when he and Toney were on the set together.. alteast after the Booker fight.

!! Mr. Soprano
05-11-2005, 01:02 AM
Wow... this should be an awesome fight. Two guys who have speed and who are slick. Tough fight to call. I'm glad Toney and Bird are willing to put their belts on the line unlike other title holders. This will make the heavyweight division a lil more interesting than it has in the past. Bird talks some smack too. Lets now forget though, he was all quiet when he and Toney were on the set together.. alteast after the Booker fight.
Read up on the latest!
The fight probably will not happen!