Am I crazy or do you guys think it would be a good idea for Mike to finish out his career in the cruiserweight division?

I think that he could make the weight if he worked out hard (which would help him in more ways than one). And I think if he only had to get down to 200 pounds for the weigh in, he could probably come into fights at around 215. This is a good weight for Mike.

I would love to see him fight Mormek and then Unify the division titles.

He could also have mega-fights with a returning Jirov or Toney, even Chris Bryd would come down to fight Tyson. And his chances at beating them are improved by fighting at cruiser because with less weight he can probably fight more rounds hard instead of just the first couple.

I could see 5 awsome fights for Tyson at cruiser weight and a return to fame and Glory.

Hell maybe even Roy Jones or Antonio Tarver would come up for a piece. Even if Tyson lost a couple of these fights he could still be competitive in all of them and get the money he needs to pay off his debts.

If.....His comeback went well and he beat up everybody at cruiser he could still come up for one last heavyweight title fight and then retire win or lose.

Are you on crack!?

no jk

If he is disciplined, still I say no, no money there...


BTW u wanna join my great list?

Tyson wouldn't be able to make weight

Tyson wouldn't be able to make weight


Do you know what he weighed in at his last fight?

Do you know what he weighed in at his last fight?

I think he weighed in at a pathetic 233, his optimal weight is 216. Every bout Tyson has ever been in, and weighed in at over 220 he looses.

I think he weighed in at a pathetic 233, his optimal weight is 216. Every bout Tyson has ever been in, and weighed in at over 220 he looses.


And what again is the limit for Cruiser?

Boxrec says 233 for the Williams fight

And what again is the limit for Cruiser?


Its 200 now. That's why if they gave him a few days between the weigh in and the fight he could still come in at 215.

Also in the 80's Tyson often came into fights at 199 or 201 anyway, so if he was in really good shape that is his natural weight.

Also in the 80's Tyson often came into fights at 199 or 201 anyway, so if he was in really good shape that is his natural weight.

No he didn't he was always in the range between 215 and 219. 214 might have been the lowest he ever came in at, but it might be 215, his optimal fighting weight is 216. You would not think a small number pounds like that would make a big difference for a heavy but for Tyson it does.

McKay your retarded or Polish or both.

www.boxrec.com

Just look. You don't have to make up **** to pretend like you know something. Just Click the link and you can see Mike Tyson't weights for all his fights.

EVEN THE ONES HE WON AT OVER 200 POUNDS!

McKay your retarded or Polish or both.

www.boxrec.com

Just look. You don't have to make up **** to pretend like you know something. Just Click the link and you can see Mike Tyson't weights for all his fights.

EVEN THE ONES HE WON AT OVER 200 POUNDS!

It does not list Tyson's weight on Boxrec for all his fights. But I can Guarantee that between the time Tyson won the titles and the Time he lost to Douglas he always weighed in at between 216 and 219 one of the first times I saw Tyson at over 220 was against Douglas. Tyson was never 199, He was always in the range of 216 from his start as a pro.

In Tyson's first pro fight fight he weighed in at 214 and that is lowest he ever was.

In Tyson's first pro fight fight he weighed in at 214 and that is lowest he ever was. Actually 212 was teh lowest he ever was in his 3rd pro bout. After like his 5th pro bout he always weighed in the range of 217.

What? This is the dumbest idea ever. Cruiserweight is a dead division. Is that the only way spent Tyson can ever win a real fight is move down in class? Ha! He should stick around for a match with Ruiz to get schooled.

Fine My Bad.

Your right about his optimum weight.


I still think that he could make it to 200 pretty easily. And he has won fights above the 220 mark. Like when he fought Clifford Ettiene he was pretty fat for that.

Looking at your sig I know think Toney may have the ability to breathe fire out of his nostrils.

Looking at your sig I know think Toney may have the ability to breathe fire out of his nostrils.


What you mean by that?

What you mean by that?

Just that. His nostrils are wide enough to release jet flames.

Maybe that's why he goes 12 rounds so good. He doesn't get winded cause he gets more air than other people.

Maybe that's why he goes 12 rounds so good. He doesn't get winded cause he gets more air than other people.

That might be a possibility. For sure.

that would be cool i love that guy mikes the man.

imo, tyson should neither go up or down, he should retire. but he is so marketable people will still watch him fight from heavyweights to flyweights.

Bring on Tyson vs. Jones, the battle of semi-retirees.

I think he weighed in at a pathetic 233, his optimal weight is 216. Every bout Tyson has ever been in, and weighed in at over 220 he looses.


Actually Tyson has won about 14 or 15 fights at 220 or over, go do ur homework before saying something that dumb, he was even 221 against Berbick. http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000474 check it our urself, he even beat Brian Neilson when he was 239. I dont kno what ur talking about. Tyson would never be able to make cruiser, and why would he want to, all the money is right where hes at, and I believe he can still make an impact.

It does not list Tyson's weight on Boxrec for all his fights. But I can Guarantee that between the time Tyson won the titles and the Time he lost to Douglas he always weighed in at between 216 and 219 one of the first times I saw Tyson at over 220 was against Douglas. Tyson was never 199, He was always in the range of 216 from his start as a pro.


it does list his weights on boxrec, go look retard.

joe i checked box rec the left side is tyson's weight, and the right side of his opponent, so that means the lightest he's ever been in the ring is 212 pounds 1 time and 213 1 tme 2 time 214
and the rest 215,216,217 etc.

oh and those lightweights where at the beginning of his career where he just turned 18 now, right now at 38 he's heavier and the weight doesn't come of easily so no way is he going to make 200 pounds.

Tyson has trouble making 220 for him to make 195 is crazy at 39 years old.

Actually Tyson has won about 14 or 15 fights at 220 or over, go do ur homework before saying something that dumb, he was even 221 against Berbick. http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=000474 check it our urself, he even beat Brian Neilson when he was 239. I dont kno what ur talking about. Tyson would never be able to make cruiser, and why would he want to, all the money is right where hes at, and I believe he can still make an impact.


He beat Zouski at 220
he beat Ratliff at 221
he beat Berbick at 221
he got a UD with tucker at 221
he beat Frank Bruno I at at 220
he beat Entienne at over 220
and a few other guys late in his career.
Thats all his wins at over 220


He lost to James buster Douglas at 220
He lost to Evander Holyfield at 222
he lost to Lennox Lewis at 234
he lost to Danny Williams at 233

He beat James Bonecrushe Smith at 219
he beat Pinklon Thomas at 218
he beat Tyrell Biggs at 216
he beat Larry Homes at 215
he beat Tonny Tubbs at 216
he beat Michael Spinks at 218
he beat Frank Bruno I at 218
he beat Carl the Truth Williams at 219
he beat Henry Tillman at 218
he beat Alex Stewart at 217
he beat Donovan razor Ruddock I at 217
he beat Donovan Razor Ruddock II at 216
He beat McNeely at 220
he beat Buster Mathis Jr at 219
he beat Bruce Seldon at 219


All his fights after the Holyfield losses he weighed in well over 220.

Tyson is a fatass now, he obviously does not train very hard anymore that is pathetic for him to come in against Danny Williams at 233 and aganst Lennox Lewis at 234. He cant even make it to the range 217, let alone the cruiser limit of 200. He would have to drop muscle mass, not only flab to make 200, no possbility. Lowest Tyson ever was was, 212 in 3rd pro fight, highest was against Lewis at 234.

Tyson even said after Lewis fight when he was acting all wierd that he was retiring because "the training was too hard on him."

You never know what is going to happen when someone loses muscle mass. Sometimes they are slower and don't punch as hard.

Tyson is a fatass now, he obviously does not train very hard anymore that is pathetic for him to come in against Danny Williams at 233 and aganst Lennox Lewis at 234. He cant even make it to the range 217, let alone the cruiser limit of 200. He would have to drop muscle mass, not only flab to make 200, no possbility. Lowest Tyson ever was was, 212 in 3rd pro fight, highest was against Lewis at 234.

Tyson even said after Lewis fight when he was acting all wierd that he was retiring because "the training was too hard on him."

That's why he'll never be a true champ like Ruiz. Ruiz has courage and heart like Mike dreams of.

You Know Ruiz vs Tyson actually would not be a bad fight. But I would pick Tyson KO 4. John has a pretty weak chin he might get caught early, but Ruiz's grappling tactics might cause problems for Tyson because Ruiz is pretty strong, maybe stronger than Tyson at 38.

You Know Ruiz vs Tyson actually would not be a bad fight. But I would pick Tyson KO 4. John has a pretty weak chin he might get caught early, but Ruiz's grappling tactics might cause problems for Tyson because Ruiz is pretty strong, maybe stronger than Tyson at 38.

How does Ruiz have a weak chin? 1996 is old history. I guess Tyson got a weak chin too after he got beat by a journeyman.

How does Ruiz have a weak chin? 1996 is old history. I guess Tyson got a weak chin too after he got beat by a journeyman.


Tyson just quit against Williams, you could tell by looking at his eyes that he was totally coherent and could have gotten up if he wanted to. Tyson has concrete Jaw IMO its just a matter of whether his will is there. If you question Tyson's chin watch Tyson vs Razor Ruddock II or Tyson vs Holyfield, or Tyson vs Douglas, in alot of his fights he eats some huge shots but walks right through them. Nobody has ever hurt Tyson bad with one shot. Everytime he is stopped its from a massive accumaltion of big power punches.

How does Ruiz have a weak chin? 1996 is old history. I guess Tyson got a weak chin too after he got beat by a journeyman.
Roy Jones nearly took Jenny Louise's head off in round 5 with a glancing overhand right, then Roy put it on cruise control and the fight was pretty much over after that.... it wasn't a KO obviously, but if a light heavyweight can affect Louise like that with 1 glancing blow, that's a WEAK A$$ CHIN

Tyson just quit against Williams, you could tell by looking at his eyes that he was totally coherent and could have gotten up if he wanted to. Tyson has concrete Jaw IMO its just a matter of whether his will is there. If you question Tyson's chin watch Tyson vs Razor Ruddock II or Tyson vs Holyfield, or Tyson vs Douglas, in alot of his fights he eats some huge shots but walks right through them. Nobody has ever hurt Tyson bad with one shot. Everytime he is stopped its from a massive accumaltion of big power punches.


Are you kidding me? Lewis dropped Tyson like a dirty pile of laundry 3 times in their fight.

What you said only proves heart > chin. Ruiz > Tyson.

sounds good
but i reallly gone think he can make wieght for cruiser
but if he was able to
he prolly could be competive at that weight
nah
idk
hes too old
wait
idk
hes still mike tyson
lmao

Roy Jones nearly took Jenny Louise's head off in round 5 with a glancing overhand right, then Roy put it on cruise control and the fight was pretty much over after that.... it wasn't a KO obviously, but if a light heavyweight can affect Louise like that with 1 glancing blow, that's a WEAK A$$ CHIN

Roy Jones a ***** who dropped his belt when Ruiz returned for mandatory rematch.

Roy Jones a ***** who dropped his belt when Ruiz returned for mandatory rematch.
Roy is a *****....who dominated a bigger *****, Ruiz.... easily, without even breaking a sweat..... but thanks again for the laugh :)

Are you kidding me? Lewis dropped Tyson like a dirty pile of laundry 3 times in their fight.

What you said only proves heart > chin. Ruiz > Tyson.

are you kidding me???

tyson fell once when LL leaned on him(they toke a point of LL for it).

tyson got 1 standing 8count.

and was down ONCE(when he got koed).

are you kidding me???

tyson fell once when LL leaned on him(they toke a point of LL for it).

tyson got 1 standing 8count.

and was down ONCE(when he got koed).

Tyson got the worst beating of his life in that ring and when it was over he wrapped his arms tight around Lewis nutsack and never let go since!

I haven't read all of the replies yet (sorry!) but this is certainly an interesting supposition.

I'd be worried that he'd lose something in speed against his opponents (especially at this age) and he appears to only have an optimum of two rounds peak these days. But... it's interesting.


Actually, the 2nd-ranked Cruiser, Johnny Nelson, said he was jealous of Danny for having the opportunity as he knew Tyson was ready to be taken last year.

No he didn't he was always in the range between 215 and 219. 214 might have been the lowest he ever came in at, but it might be 215, his optimal fighting weight is 216. You would not think a small number pounds like that would make a big difference for a heavy but for Tyson it does.
Yeah, I don't recall him ever at the weights that guy listed. I bet he weighed 200 in the sixth grade!

He did. It has been documented that Mike Tyson weighed 190 lbs (muscular) when he was 13 years old. He really is a genetic freak. He was like a 5'10", 190 lbs seventh grader...all muscle, no fat.

As for the starter of this topic, you are a dumbass! There is no way Tyson could make cruiserweight. Also, before posting such an asinine topic, do the research. Someone posted that he has weighed less than 200 lbs for his early fights...bull****. His lightest weight was 212 lbs against Don Halpin in 1985. He also weighed in at 213 1/2 lbs against Jose Ribalta. He weighed anywhere from 215-220 lbs during his prime.

After prison he usually weighed between 219 and 22o lbs. He weighed 222 lbs for the first Holyfield fight. In the rematch he was a ripped 218 lbs and he fought well. In that fight he lost the first round badly, the second was pretty even, and he really dominated Holyfield in the 3rd. Had Tyson not snapped about Holyfield incessent headbutting he might have won that fight.

Also, he was most definately NOT fat against Etienne even though he weighed 225 lbs. He was totally ripped, and had very well-defined abs.

Some of you guys need to actually have an idea of what you are talking about before posting.

oh dear, this thread is retarded. You would have to start chopping limbs of to get Mike below 200lb.

tyson threads should be banned... this guy can no longer fight.

he is already a bum in the HW... at the cruiserweight.... he will be a cruiserweight bum

At his age, I don't think he could get down to 200 lbs...he looks to be at least 250 or 260 from the pics I've seen of him lately, maybe more. I read that in his last fight against MkBride, he trained really hard, and still came in at over 230 lbs. Tyson said Fenech worked him hard in the gym, and he was doing a lot of things he hadn't done in a long time, like running. I'd say it would be really draining for him, even if he could do it. A younger Tyson at cruiserweight though...man, he'd kill all those guys.

I think he weighed in at a pathetic 233, his optimal weight is 216. Every bout Tyson has ever been in, and weighed in at over 220 he looses.

Wrong! In his prime Tysons best weight was about 216-218, but today it would be 225 and he couldnt make cruiser, even in his prime it would be hard for him. But he had manny fight in which he was over 220 and won them.

Fine My Bad.

Your right about his optimum weight.


I still think that he could make it to 200 pretty easily. And he has won fights above the 220 mark. Like when he fought Clifford Ettiene he was pretty fat for that.

Fat?? He was ripped!!
And i have never seen a fat Tyson, only a Tyson who did to much weight lifting. The worse Tyson looked physically was against McBride, but he still was far from fat.

I thought Tyson looked pretty jacked when he fought Etienne, I wish I looked that fat haha

I think he weighed in at a pathetic 233, his optimal weight is 216. Every bout Tyson has ever been in, and weighed in at over 220 he looses.
He was like 239 against Brian Neilson, but I get your point. There's no way he could make the weight. Besides, he's finished.

Am I crazy or do you guys think it would be a good idea for Mike to finish out his career in the cruiserweight division?



Tyson's Career is already finished.

Tyson's Career is already finished.

Yes sadly. Its a shame he twisted his knee against Williams, he was close to beat Williams but then the injury came and im shure thats the reason why he lost the fight. If Tyson would have beaten Williams, stayed with Roach who knows what would have happened after that? Maybe he would have fought for a title and maybe he would have even won it?
But i know its just IF IF IF

Is it possible...maybe.

Is it going to happen....no.

When he was 18 years old Mike Tyson was a rock-solid 235 FFS.

Tyson is finished..he will get puffed out, and he is WAY too slow!

finish his career at crusier? his career is finished man! he is never going to take anything seriously in reagards to boxing. he may get a payday here or there, but he is not fighting on a regular again! he is 42!

Me? I just wanna kill...