View Full Version : 15 Reasons why Ruiz is one of history's greatest boxers!
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 08:10 PM John Ruiz has one of the greatest records in boxing history and is a Hall of Famer and will become a 3 time world champion now that he's out of retirement like I knew he would be!
This is why he stands as ALL TIME TOP 5:
1. First and only HW latino champ
2. Former stablemate of Lennox Lewis
3. After loss to Tua in 96 recovered and won NABF championship by TKO Ray Anis in 22 seconds.
4. Defeated Tony Tucker in first defense 1998 by 11 rd TKO
5. Took WBA belt by defeating Jerry Ballard in 4 rds, 1998
6. Defended against Mario Cawley by 4th KO in 1999
7. Defended against Feliz in 1999 with TKO in 7th.
8. Destroyed Thomas Williams in 1999 by KO in 50 seconds.
9. Narrow controversial loss to Holyfield in 2000 after 12 rounds.
10. Ruiz avenges his loss in rematch with Holyfield for WBA world championship by being only the 2nd fighter in history other than Bowe to KO Holyfield. Wins unanimous decision.
11. Defends in Ruiz-Holyfield III which ends in a draw despite Ruiz having his nose broken in round 1. Ruiz retains belt.
12. Defends against previously unbeaten Kirk Johnson who is DQ in 10 rounds from low blows.
13. Recovers from 2003 loss to Roy Jones by defeating Rahman unanimously in 12 rounds. Becomes 2 time heavyweight champ.
14. Defends against Oquendo and wins by 11th TKO.
15. Defends against Golota.
And lastly…
He's back and will recover from his loss to Toney by winning a belt for a 3rd time guaranteeing his rightful place in the Hall of Fame! True champions always fight back from setbacks. Nobody is as fearless as Ruiz!
EDIT:
16. Proves he was the true champion all along when Toney is revealed to have cheated in their title match with anabolic steroids. Ruiz retains his belt!
hitman7hearns7 05-09-2005, 08:50 PM being a stablemate of lennox lewis makes u great how???
how does it even contribute to anyone being great
and for all the rest of that **** PISS OFF mate
there are hundreds of other fighters with better CV,s than that son shine
{BrownBomber} 05-09-2005, 08:54 PM John Ruiz has one of the greatest records in boxing history and is a Hall of Famer and will become a 3 time world champion now that he's out of retirement like I knew he would be!
This is why he stands as ALL TIME TOP 5:
1. First and only HW latino champ
2. Former stablemate of Lennox Lewis
3. After loss to Tua in 96 recovered and won NABF championship by TKO Ray Anis in 22 seconds.
4. Defeated Tony Tucker in first defense 1998 by 11 rd TKO
5. Took WBA belt by defeating Jerry Ballard in 4 rds, 1998
6. Defended against Mario Cawley by 4th KO in 1999
7. Defended against Feliz in 1999 with TKO in 7th.
8. Destroyed Thomas Williams in 1999 by KO in 50 seconds.
9. Narrow controversial loss to Holyfield in 2000 after 12 rounds.
10. Ruiz avenges his loss in rematch with Holyfield for WBA world championship by being only the 2nd fighter in history other than Bowe to KO Holyfield. Wins unanimous decision.
11. Defends in Ruiz-Holyfield III which ends in a draw despite Ruiz having his nose broken in round 1. Ruiz retains belt.
12. Defends against previously unbeaten Kirk Johnson who is DQ in 10 rounds from low blows.
13. Recovers from 2003 loss to Roy Jones by defeating Rahman unanimously in 12 rounds. Becomes 2 time heavyweight champ.
14. Defends against Oquendo and wins by 11th TKO.
15. Defends against Golota.
And lastly…
He's back and will recover from his loss to Toney by winning a belt for a 3rd time guaranteeing his rightful place in the Hall of Fame! True champions always fight back from setbacks. Nobody is as fearless as Ruiz!
yes but you forgot
16. Gives the best hug in boxing
being a stablemate of lennox lewis makes u great how???
how does it even contribute to anyone being great
and for all the rest of that **** PISS OFF mate
there are hundreds of other fighters with better CV,s than that son shine
It's all tongue in cheek. He posts about John Ruiz all over the place & thinks it's funny.
SacTown1 05-09-2005, 09:02 PM yes but you forgot
16. Gives the best hug in boxing
he also forgot #17: if Ruiz was covered in dog crap, he couldn't attract flies
The Pretender is really playing this whole bogus "I Love Johnny" routine to the brink, it's comical but I'm starting to think the guy is actually believing the **** he's saying
how is this getting on your nervoues dont click the thread its not required i think hes hells funny keeps me on the forums :D.
Tarver is my dad 05-09-2005, 09:06 PM i think every member in this site now knows that u love John Ruiz. It was funny at first, but now it's getting annoying. Can u stop posting these threads or will this continue?
i think every member in this site now knows that u love John Ruiz. It was funny at first, but now it's getting annoying. Can u stop posting these threads or will this continue?
yet another idiot that comes on the thread to flame.
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 09:07 PM being a stablemate of lennox lewis makes u great how???
You gotta admit that champion aura just rubbed off on Ruiz. And birds of a feather flock together as they say. No wonder Lewis and Ruiz come from the same roots!
SacTown1 05-09-2005, 09:09 PM how is this getting on your nervoues dont click the thread its not required i think hes hells funny keeps me on the forums :D.
WE HAVE FOUND THE CULPRIT:
VKREW = THE PRETENDER
those wins over holyfield mean nothin...holyfield was like 40
yeah its mee you caught me damn.. lol you guys must be all 12 this is not guess who sorry, stay away from pretenders threads if they bother you so much i think there hella funny.
Mr. Ryan 05-09-2005, 09:11 PM being a stablemate of lennox lewis makes u great how???
how does it even contribute to anyone being great
and for all the rest of that **** PISS OFF mate
there are hundreds of other fighters with better CV,s than that son shine
I was a regular sparring partner of Marlon Hayes for 3 years, who lost his NABF Middleweight Title to Kingsley Ikeke and who lost his NABA Middleweight Title to Robert Allen. I am great!
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 09:12 PM It's all tongue in cheek. He posts about John Ruiz all over the place & thinks it's funny.
For the last time you're wrong dude. For your info johnthequietmanruiz.com is my homepage. I got better things to do than sit here typing **** up about Ruiz if I wasnt a fan. I figure he did so much for me giving me great fights that I'm gonna make sure I'm his loudest fan on the internet.
Did I not say Ruiz wasn't gonna really retire? Because he's a true champ just like I said.
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 09:12 PM those wins over holyfield mean nothin...holyfield was like 40
So what, Hopkins is 40.
{BrownBomber} 05-09-2005, 09:13 PM how is this getting on your nervoues dont click the thread its not required i think hes hells funny keeps me on the forums :D.
at first I wanted to kick his ass then I realized there is no one on this earth that likes ruiz. I just read his post cause they funny ass hell.
yeah this guys the funniest person on these forums i cant stop reading haha.
SacTown1 05-09-2005, 09:15 PM I was a regular sparring partner of Marlon Hayes for 3 years, who lost his NABF Middleweight Title to Kingsley Ikeke and who lost his NABA Middleweight Title to Robert Allen. I am great!
When I was 12, I played a round of golf with Jason Kidd....
so I'm the best golfer, and the best point guard, on the planet!!!
{BrownBomber} 05-09-2005, 09:16 PM When I was 12, I played a round of golf with Jason Kidd....
so I'm the best golfer, and the best point guard, on the planet!!!
I shook hands with Lacey so im the best hand shaker in the world! :D
pug1986 05-09-2005, 09:28 PM yes but you forgot
16. Gives the best hug in boxing
awww... really though this thread makes me laugh, joke or not
Warden11 05-09-2005, 10:22 PM being a stablemate of lennox lewis makes u great how???
how does it even contribute to anyone being great
and for all the rest of that **** PISS OFF mate
there are hundreds of other fighters with better CV,s than that son shine
Stole the words from my mouth ;)
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 10:25 PM Don't see why. Its no coincidence that certain stables turn out great champs regularly. Because they know great fighters and how to choose them.
LuKahnLi 05-09-2005, 10:55 PM John Ruiz has one of the greatest records in boxing history and is a Hall of Famer and will become a 3 time world champion now that he's out of retirement like I knew he would be!
This is why he stands as ALL TIME TOP 5:
1. First and only HW latino champ
2. Former stablemate of Lennox Lewis
3. After loss to Tua in 96 recovered and won NABF championship by TKO Ray Anis in 22 seconds.
4. Defeated Tony Tucker in first defense 1998 by 11 rd TKO
5. Took WBA belt by defeating Jerry Ballard in 4 rds, 1998
6. Defended against Mario Cawley by 4th KO in 1999
7. Defended against Feliz in 1999 with TKO in 7th.
8. Destroyed Thomas Williams in 1999 by KO in 50 seconds.
9. Narrow controversial loss to Holyfield in 2000 after 12 rounds.
10. Ruiz avenges his loss in rematch with Holyfield for WBA world championship by being only the 2nd fighter in history other than Bowe to KO Holyfield. Wins unanimous decision.
11. Defends in Ruiz-Holyfield III which ends in a draw despite Ruiz having his nose broken in round 1. Ruiz retains belt.
12. Defends against previously unbeaten Kirk Johnson who is DQ in 10 rounds from low blows.
13. Recovers from 2003 loss to Roy Jones by defeating Rahman unanimously in 12 rounds. Becomes 2 time heavyweight champ.
14. Defends against Oquendo and wins by 11th TKO.
15. Defends against Golota.
And lastly…
He's back and will recover from his loss to Toney by winning a belt for a 3rd time guaranteeing his rightful place in the Hall of Fame! True champions always fight back from setbacks. Nobody is as fearless as Ruiz!
Okay this has to be a joke.
Tha Greatest 05-09-2005, 11:02 PM The Pretender sucked John Ruiz's 2 incher!
That makes him the biggest *** ever! :eek:
Warden11 05-09-2005, 11:05 PM The Pretender sucked John Ruiz's 2 incher!
That makes him the biggest *** ever! :eek:
OH CRAP, you shouldn't have said that now all were gonna hear is how big a dick Ruiz has.
Tha Greatest 05-09-2005, 11:14 PM OH CRAP, you shouldn't have said that now all were gonna hear is how big a dick Ruiz has.
OOO **** PEOPLE RUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
Warden11 05-09-2005, 11:16 PM Hahahahaha
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 11:49 PM Bush is Ruiz #2 fan. That's right, the world's most powerful man knows Ruiz the true champ.
Tha Greatest 05-09-2005, 11:51 PM Bush is Ruiz #2 fan. That's right, the world's most powerful man knows Ruiz the true champ.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/ThaGreatest/jkh.bmp
The Pretender 05-09-2005, 11:59 PM Show me another HW champ with a photo op with THE MAN. That's what I thought.
Tha Greatest 05-10-2005, 12:02 AM Show me another HW champ with a photo op with THE MAN. That's what I thought.
Thats cuz no other real human would wanna be with that thing
only **** like Bush
ObtuseBoxer 05-10-2005, 12:08 AM you are joking ......right ??
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 12:17 AM Thats cuz no other real human would wanna be with that thing
only **** like Bush
Ha you just hate the fact that Ruiz is probably the first HW to hang out with the POTUS since Ali. That means he's a recognized champ on the highest level. More evidence he is Top 5 all time.
loangunZ 05-10-2005, 12:18 AM yes but you forgot
16. Gives the best hug in boxing
lol best reason so far
Tarver is my dad 05-10-2005, 12:35 AM yeah this guys the funniest person on these forums i cant stop reading haha.
ur an idiot
Slipx 05-10-2005, 01:13 AM Ray Anis
lol, now I know why that guy took up boxing.
Truth 05-10-2005, 09:02 AM I think Ruiz has a decent resume but to say he is an all time great is just inaccurate in my opinion.
jabsRstiff 05-10-2005, 11:05 AM how is this getting on your nervoues dont click the thread its not required i think hes hells funny keeps me on the forums :D.
WRONG, VK....
This BORE has been chucking his PLAYED-OUT Ruiz posts into other threads, where they don't fit.
A) If you think this guy is funny.....you have a pretty lame, easy-to-please sense of humor
B) If you engage this guy, & answer/direct him seriously.....you are a gullible, dumb-to-sarcasm dope.
C) If you respond to him the way I have.....you have good taste, know when to call a turd a turd, & know what's best for this forum.
wow, I thought this thread was a joke thread when it was first started.
m00ks 05-10-2005, 11:09 AM John Ruiz has one of the greatest records in boxing history and is a Hall of Famer and will become a 3 time world champion now that he's out of retirement like I knew he would be!
This is why he stands as ALL TIME TOP 5:
K whoa there...
boxerman 05-10-2005, 11:20 AM 10. Ruiz avenges his loss in rematch with Holyfield for WBA world championship by being only the 2nd fighter in history other than Bowe to KO Holyfield. Wins unanimous decision
Hmmmm....that was the most bizzare fight ever. Holyfield gets KOed then comes back to lose in a decision. Did the commissioner of boxign come back down and tell the ref; " ring the bell this fight is going to continue" ala Vince McMahon.
Jusk kidding..I know what you meant. Knocked down not KOed.
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 11:58 AM People, think about this. Ruiz is 2 time world champ. He's back from 2 week retirement like I said he would be. Now he may fight winner of Brewster-Golota. I been saying all along he's a HOF fighter.
Ruiz has a habit of taking a loss and turning it around and improving his career. After Tua devastating KO, he becomes world champ. After loss to RJJ he becomes world champ again. After Toney loss, he going to come back again!
What happens if he gets a third belt? Can anyone tell me just how many HWs in history have become 3-TIME WORLD CHAMPS? That's right. THATS why Ruiz will be Hall of Fame.
EXIGE 05-10-2005, 12:12 PM Ok some1 sed that Ruiz is hanging out with "THE MAN" .. dont even get me into this. That man wasnt even elected by the Americans i thought .. he scammed it and cheated the voting system and jus beat al gore even when he was election fixing.
Also he goes round bombing ne1 he dont like! wat is this man!
hu cares if Ruiz hangs around with Bush. Bush sucks!
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 12:16 PM Ok some1 sed that Ruiz is hanging out with "THE MAN" .. dont even get me into this. That man wasnt even elected by the Americans i thought .. he scammed it and cheated the voting system and jus beat al gore even when he was election fixing.
Also he goes round bombing ne1 he dont like! wat is this man!
hu cares if Ruiz hangs around with Bush. Bush sucks!
That's not the point. I think the last time a US president hung out with a heavyweight champ might have been Ali. That shows you that powerful people are Ruiz fans!
AintGottaClue 05-10-2005, 12:23 PM ruiz looks better shaved, why dont u tell him that cause that beard he wears to the ring sucks, like u do on his nuts all the time
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 12:26 PM ruiz looks better shaved, why dont u tell him that cause that beard he wears to the ring sucks, like u do on his nuts all the time
Strong words coming from a guy with a picture of half naked Oscar as his sig. Bwahaha!
dangerousity 05-10-2005, 01:30 PM IMO, if you dont become undisputed, you dont deserve a place. Period. I dont care if he becomes 10times HW champion, that just means he lost the belt the same amount of times. Also who gives a ****e if hes the first Latino HW champ, why should that make hima ny greater in the eyes of the people? In the eyes of the Latino's maybe, but the world?
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 01:44 PM IMO, if you dont become undisputed, you dont deserve a place. Period. I dont care if he becomes 10times HW champion, that just means he lost the belt the same amount of times. Also who gives a ****e if hes the first Latino HW champ, why should that make hima ny greater in the eyes of the people? In the eyes of the Latino's maybe, but the world?
Ruiz was ready to unify the division for years, challeneged every other belt holder and requested a unification tournament. But everyone too chicken**** to fight each other...only Ruiz had the courage.
Why's it a big deal to be first latino hw champ? Because no one ever did it before. He trailblazed for all future hw champs of latino stock who now have someone to aspire to. Ruiz is a role model.
jatt the ripper 05-10-2005, 02:15 PM the pretender i to am a huge ruiz fan and also beleive he deservers a place as an all time great. it aint easy winning a belt as a heavyweight; so all you guys out there saying he aint ****, get ready to eat your words when ruiz becomes the heavyweight chump for the 3rd time, in his illustrious and great career.
jabsRstiff 05-10-2005, 02:19 PM Those replying to this post with serious responses...
You're ****in' dumb as dirt.
BANE206 05-10-2005, 02:21 PM he will go down as the first latino champ and the only heavyweight to get beat by 2 middleweights, the fact that he beat weak heavys and over the hill heavys wont matter, nuff said.
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 04:36 PM Those replying to this post with serious responses...
You're ****in' dumb as dirt.
Get out of my thread retard. Unless you have something intelligent to say.
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 04:37 PM he will go down as the first latino champ and the only heavyweight to get beat by 2 middleweights, the fact that he beat weak heavys and over the hill heavys wont matter, nuff said.
4 HOF fighters are weak heavies? I dont think so. Ruiz still ranked #4 overall.
Warden11 05-10-2005, 05:35 PM 4 HOF fighters are weak heavies? I dont think so. Ruiz still ranked #4 overall.
Whats HOF mean?
paul750 05-10-2005, 05:38 PM Whats HOF mean?
hall of fame
slavik18 05-10-2005, 05:50 PM John Ruiz has one of the greatest records in boxing history and is a Hall of Famer and will become a 3 time world champion now that he's out of retirement like I knew he would be!
This is why he stands as ALL TIME TOP 5:
1. First and only HW latino champ
2. Former stablemate of Lennox Lewis
3. After loss to Tua in 96 recovered and won NABF championship by TKO Ray Anis in 22 seconds.
4. Defeated Tony Tucker in first defense 1998 by 11 rd TKO
5. Took WBA belt by defeating Jerry Ballard in 4 rds, 1998
6. Defended against Mario Cawley by 4th KO in 1999
7. Defended against Feliz in 1999 with TKO in 7th.
8. Destroyed Thomas Williams in 1999 by KO in 50 seconds.
9. Narrow controversial loss to Holyfield in 2000 after 12 rounds.
10. Ruiz avenges his loss in rematch with Holyfield for WBA world championship by being only the 2nd fighter in history other than Bowe to KO Holyfield. Wins unanimous decision.
11. Defends in Ruiz-Holyfield III which ends in a draw despite Ruiz having his nose broken in round 1. Ruiz retains belt.
12. Defends against previously unbeaten Kirk Johnson who is DQ in 10 rounds from low blows.
13. Recovers from 2003 loss to Roy Jones by defeating Rahman unanimously in 12 rounds. Becomes 2 time heavyweight champ.
14. Defends against Oquendo and wins by 11th TKO.
15. Defends against Golota.
And lastly…
He's back and will recover from his loss to Toney by winning a belt for a 3rd time guaranteeing his rightful place in the Hall of Fame! True champions always fight back from setbacks. Nobody is as fearless as Ruiz!
You are an idiot, and John Ruiz is also an idiot. U forgot to mention beaten by 2 former Middleweights. Toney vs Ruiz showed just how pathetic Ruiz is at boxing, if he doesn't hug his way into a title, there is no way he can win because he has no boxing skill. Ruiz is ****, I hope he comes back and gets KTFO by anyone decent.
The Pretender 05-10-2005, 05:54 PM You are an idiot, and John Ruiz is also an idiot. U forgot to mention beaten by 2 former Middleweights. Toney vs Ruiz showed just how pathetic Ruiz is at boxing, if he doesn't hug his way into a title, there is no way he can win because he has no boxing skill. Ruiz is ****, I hope he comes back and gets KTFO by anyone decent.
Ha. Beat by one middleweight who dropped his belt rather than take a mandatory rematch.
Then Toney takes drugs to win and Ruiz gets his belt back.
That's why Ruiz the real champ!
slavik18 05-10-2005, 06:02 PM Ha. Beat by one middleweight who dropped his belt rather than take a mandatory rematch.
Then Toney takes drugs to win and Ruiz gets his belt back.
That's why Ruiz the real champ!
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~raza/yapping.gif
Warden11 05-11-2005, 06:08 PM hall of fame
Ok I feel really stupid now.
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