which ones?????? multiple voting is allowed

I don't see a poll. Re-post please.

damn u read that shiet fast!!!!

Winky V.S. Vargas
Sturm V.S. De La Hoya
De La Hoya V.S. Trinidad
Castillo V.S. Mayweather 1

I only voted for Tito-DLH, forgot about the multiple votes(gotta a couple buds in me). I thought this was the most obvious choice since DLH was seemingly winning until he started dodging Tito for the last few rounds of the fight. But what DLH didn't know was that the judges already had it close before he started that *****-ass ****. So in a way, it was a good robbery.

I think Robbery is too strong a word for any of those fights you mentioned.

They were all close enough they could have conceivably been scored either way.

Fights you should have mentioned:

Lewis vs Holyfield 1 (no way did Vander win more than 4 rounds)

Courtney Burton vs Emanual Augustus (one of the worst decesions I ever saw)

Castillo-Mayweather and Sturm-De La Hoya, i dont know how u had De La Hoya winning that fight, Sturm was popping him all night with that jab.I keep saying this, but middleweight was never fit for Oscar,he looked slow and fat!

Golota vs Byrd
Golota vs Ruiz

biggest robberies

Golota should be WBA IBF champion right now, and considered #1 heavyweight.

Naturaly Trinidad vs. De La Hoya is a top choice, and other "real" robberies arent even on the list, but anyway, Castillo vs. Casamayor.

I think Robbery is too strong a word for any of those fights you mentioned.

They were all close enough they could have conceivably been scored either way.

Fights you should have mentioned:

Lewis vs Holyfield 1 (no way did Vander win more than 4 rounds)

Courtney Burton vs Emanual Augustus (one of the worst decesions I ever saw)

yeah those 2 fights you mentioned are robberies but i just wnated people's opinions on those fights

Hey Iwant, that fight was too close to call, sorry but that was no robbery.I am talking Castillo-Casamayor.I had it for Castillo.

8 out of 9 of those have a Mexican in it....I wonder why :rolleyes: .

Naturaly Trinidad vs. De La Hoya is a top choice, and other "real" robberies arent even on the list, but anyway, Castillo vs. Casamayor.


no way did dlh beat sturm..and no way could u have had mayweather beating castillo

Naturaly Trinidad vs. De La Hoya is a top choice, and other "real" robberies arent even on the list, but anyway, Castillo vs. Casamayor.
I vote Tito-Oscar as tops o nthat list, I've seen worse though....

Brewster-Meehan was a televised sparring match

I'm a huge Johnny Tapia fan, but he got an IBF Christmas gift vs. Manuel Medina

Oquendo ran outta gas but was still robbed vs. Byrd

Vanda vs Garr was super-sketchy

8 out of 9 of those have a Mexican in it....I wonder why :rolleyes: .

because they dominate the divisions under welterweight

because they dominate the divisions under welterweight
Do they dominate bad decions too?

I think Robbery is too strong a word for any of those fights you mentioned.

They were all close enough they could have conceivably been scored either way.

Fights you should have mentioned:

Lewis vs Holyfield 1 (no way did Vander win more than 4 rounds)

Courtney Burton vs Emanual Augustus (one of the worst decesions I ever saw)

I agree 100%, robbery is the wrong word for all of those fights.

no way did dlh beat sturm..and no way could u have had mayweather beating castillo
Mayweather dominated rounds 1-4 vs. Castillo, it's pretty hard to lose a decision when you win the 1st 4 rounds easily....plus the corwd and announcers were extremely biased in that fight, watch it with no volume and your tune will change (all pun intended)

remember the crowd & announce team in DeLaHoya-Mosley 2? Same kind of situation

Come on! Where is the backup for Golota, the man was robbed so bad 2 times in a row.

Do they dominate bad decions too?

not sure what you are implying? I'm not even mexican if your wondering

Mayweather dominated rounds 1-4 vs. Castillo, it's pretty hard to lose a decision when you win the 1st 4 rounds easily....plus the corwd and announcers were extremely biased in that fight, watch it with no volume and your tune will change (all pun intended)

remember the crowd & announce team in DeLaHoya-Mosley 2? Same kind of situation

I had castillo winning 3 6 7 10 11 12 at the least

Naturaly Trinidad vs. De La Hoya is a top choice, and other "real" robberies arent even on the list, but anyway, Castillo vs. Casamayor.

Are you serious? Do you think that Trinidad-DLH was a clear robbery? I think that DLH looked more dominant but in rounds it was even, 114-114.

I had castillo winning 3 6 7 10 11 12 at the least
even then, winning 6 outta 12 won't get you a W in Vegas vs. a Top Rank cash-cow like Floyd

8 out of 9 of those have a Mexican in it....I wonder why :rolleyes: .
you cant win a fight when you run, it boxing not track.

even then, winning 6 outta 12 won't get you a W in Vegas vs. a Top Rank cash-cow like Floyd
Or anyone, thats called a draw.

Andrew Golota the true WBA IBF Heavyweight Champion of the world.


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you cant win a fight when you run, it boxing not track.


u can win a fight if u win 7 rounds before u start running, no way in hell did tito win 7 rounds.


its already proven that golota-byrd was a fixed fight, and i belive according to the offical score cards of golota-ruiz. golota only won 2 rounds outta that whole fight by what they had down!!!!!!!! i kidna feel bad for golota now, 2 low DQ's drugged up so he got KO, and he quit twice, then finely comes back in order and gets robbed twice of 2 belts that should be his.

Castillo beat Mayweather in that first fight.Everybody that was there thought so.Lederman had Castillo by a wide margin and he some of his stuff.Ring magazine also had Castillo winning the fight.

Or anyone, thats called a draw.
I hear ya, but that wasn't what I was getting at, there's a difference between "winning the round" and "2 out of 3 judges giving a fighter a 10-9 round"

Castillo "winning" 6, or 7, or even 8 rounds vs. Floyd at the MGM in Vegas on a national holiday (4:20) won't earn him a decision win....

plus, like i stated before, I thought Floyd swept rounds 1-4, and it's tough to lose with a 4 round lead from the get-go

u can win a fight if u win 7 rounds before u start running, no way in hell did tito win 7 rounds.


its already proven that golota-byrd was a fixed fight, and i belive according to the offical score cards of golota-ruiz. golota only won 2 rounds outta that whole fight by what they had down!!!!!!!! i kidna feel bad for golota now, 2 low DQ's drugged up so he got KO, and he quit twice, then finely comes back in order and gets robbed twice of 2 belts that should be his.

Yep Golota got the big screwjob everybody should feel sorry for him. Join the Andrew Golota fan club today.

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Castillo beat Mayweather in that first fight.Everybody that was there thought so.Lederman had Castillo by a wide margin and he some of his stuff.Ring magazine also had Castillo winning the fight.
Like Super Zab, and Sactown who gave him a full 6 rounds out of 12! Wow, thats a robbery, I didnt see the fight, but with statments like that, I cleary see Castillo won, sort of like how Castillo beat Casamayor...I guess.

Yep Golota got the big screwjob everybody should feel sorry for him. Join the Andrew Golota fan club today.

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I could never feel sorry for someone who
1. bites his opponents
2. intentionally throws low blows
3. intentionally head-butts
4. takes roids
5. quits inbetween rounds
6. signs with Don King

Download the fight, Iwant, and u tell me who won the Castillo-Mayweather fight, the first one, Mayweather was going backwards in the late rounds.Also Castillo did some heavy bodywork on him.

No offence to my German home-boys but arent they supposed to be renowned for giving the decisions in favour of their countryman or someone who they consider to be an ally (possibly some1 from a wartime alliance nation).

This may be a bit of a stereotype but i think it definitely happens.

Having said that Joe Calzaghe won against Mario Veit the other day and that was held in Germany.

Questionable i suppose.

I could never feel sorry for someone who
1. bites his opponents
2. intentionally throws low blows
3. intentionally head-butts
4. takes roids
5. quits inbetween rounds
6. signs with Don King


You cant prove he tooks roids that an accusation by Bowe because Bowe gets drunk and thinks he is big man and cant admit Golota beat the life out of him. Alot of people have pimples on their back. You dont need to take roids to have pimples on your neck or back, I know somebody that pimples and their back and neck and they dont take roids. And the sanctioning bodies test for substance abuse. You are just a Golota hater like Michael Katz is, pathetic dweeb.

Download the fight, Iwant, and u tell me who won the Castillo-Mayweather fight, the first one, Mayweather was going backwards in the late rounds.Also Castillo did some heavy bodywork on him.

I have not seen this fight but all I have heard is that Mayweather lost his undefeated record that night.

Who's that Joffre??

Download the fight, Iwant, and u tell me who won the Castillo-Mayweather fight, the first one, Mayweather was going backwards in the late rounds.Also Castillo did some heavy bodywork on him.
I will, if I catch one, I dont do torrents.

Yes excite, thats Eder Jofre who i think would have beaten some of these guys today.Never knocked down as a champion.Could fight at a fast pace.

You cant prove he tooks roids that an accusation by Bowe because Bowe gets drunk and thinks he is big man and cant admit Golota beat the life out of him. Alot of people have pimples on their back. You dont need to take roids to have pimples on your neck or back, I know somebody that pimples and their back and neck and they dont take roids. And the sanctioning bodies test for substance abuse. You are just a Golota hater like Michael Katz is, pathetic dweeb.
Bowe's not a drinker, he got brain damage from Golota's left hooks combined with 3-4 of the worst head-butts in heavyweight history....

and if those weren't roid pimples on his back back in 96, how did his back clear up all of a sudden in the past couple of years? You don't hit puberty in your 30's (or at least real men don't, but you and Golota may be in a whole other category)

Yes excite, thats Eder Jofre who i think would have beaten some of these guys today.Never knocked down as a champion.Could fight at a fast pace.

I once read an article about him. They were comparing him to Freitas almost a year before the Corrales loss. I read that he only lost a couple of decisions to the same guy. An Asian boxer.

Are you Brazilian, dude?

Bowe's not a drinker, he got brain damage from Golota's left hooks combined with 3-4 of the worst head-butts in heavyweight history....

and if those weren't roid pimples on his back back in 96, how did his back clear up all of a sudden in the past couple of years? You don't hit puberty in your 30's (or at least real men don't, but you and Golota may be in a whole other category)


Some people get pimples on their back and neck its not that uncommon.

which ones?????? multiple voting is allowed

You neglected to add Chavez/Whitaker.

I voted for Trinidad/De La Hoya and Sturm/De La Hoya...

Yeah, but comparing him to Freitas is a joke :D , Jofre was quick-handed, slicker,he came back in 1973 and won the featherweight title at the age of 37.He lost his 2 fights to fighting Harada and then retired and then came back.Both where close decisions.

Yes i am brazilian.

Some people get pimples on their back and neck its not that uncommon.
dude I KNOW, but if you get them, and they're all over you, and you're past the age of 18, then they won't just clear-up through growing up or growing old, there will be scars and red marks all over....

roid pimples, however, will appear for a while then fade once you are off your cycles, I've lifted weights since I was 13 so I've seen many friends go thru roid cycles (which 90% of the time lead to back and shoulder pimples) Golota is an obvious case, it's really not even worth the debate, if you had ever seen anyone go through a riod cycle you'd know that Golota was on the sauce

Than how was it not detected by the sanctioning bodies. The sanctioning bodies test so thouroughly they gave Roy Jones Jr **** for taking ripped fuel.

Yeah, but comparing him to Freitas is a joke :D , Jofre was quick-handed, slicker,he came back in 1973 and won the featherweight title at the age of 37.He lost his 2 fights to fighting Harada and then retired and then came back.Both where close decisions.

Yes i am brazilian.

Dancando Lambada, eh? Ha! Entiendes Español? Esas mujeres de Brasil están buenísimas. Esas negras con esas caderas!

Than how was it not detected by the sanctioning bodies. The sanctioning bodies test so thouroughly they gave Roy Jones Jr **** for taking ripped fuel.
Alright it's obvious who has never played any sports before....

piss tests are SO EASY to get around, every athlete/weight lifter on the sauce always has a "clean buddy" to score a few ounces of the yellow from, commissioners aren't allowed to actually watch you urinate into the cup so you just stash a vile in the stall or another unmentionable place :) old tricks, with obvious physical repercussions, sorry i had to be the one to break it down for ya but this stuff ain't new

Alright it's obvious who has never played any sports before....

piss tests are SO EASY to get around, every athlete/weight lifter on the sauce always has a "clean buddy" to score a few ounces of the yellow from, commissioners aren't allowed to actually watch you urinate into the cup so you just stash a vile in the stall or another unmentionable place :) old tricks, with obvious physical repercussions, sorry i had to be the one to break it down for ya but this stuff ain't new


You just are a Golota hater you damn well sanctioning bodies test extremely thouroughly for substance abuse and you are just trying to slag off Golota's performance against Bowe and make excsuses for Bowe, because you simply hate Golota.

I speak some, yeah, yeah tell me about it, i want Adriana Lima for myself :D

even then, winning 6 outta 12 won't get you a W in Vegas vs. a Top Rank cash-cow like Floyd

well im saying at the least he won 6 rounds..how did the judges have it floyd winning the fight by 4 rounds

You just are a Golota hater you damn well sanctioning bodies test extremely thouroughly for substance abuse and you are just trying to slag off Golota's performance against Bowe and make excsuses for Bowe, because you simply hate Golota.
riiiiight, thorough tests for boxers.....riiiiight

so what was in the bottle that Aaron Pryor drank from???

When exactly did Pernell Whitaker first start smoking rocks?

Even your boy Golota admitted to fighting Lewis while receiving a illegal pain killer only an hour before the bell rang

but hey, the commission examined the situations thoroughly.....riiiiiight.....you kids crack me up, so young & innocent :)

Hey Zab,Castillo won the fight, these judges where off-base, the crowd was stunned when they read those scorecards.Just know this, if Ring Magazine had Castillo winning the fight, enuff said.

Download the fight, Iwant, and u tell me who won the Castillo-Mayweather fight, the first one, Mayweather was going backwards in the late rounds.Also Castillo did some heavy bodywork on him.


I just saw the fight again today and scored it castillo won 6 CLEAR
rounds theres no debating those rounds....and there was a couple that were close..I actually had the exacct score card as lederman for once...but we disagreed on some of the rounds.i had it about a tie going in to the 10th round....castillo swept mayweather on the championship rounds and even gained a point for floyd using his elbow

I will, if I catch one, I dont do torrents.

ill hook u guys up with a good version of the fight one of these adys when im not lazy

You just are a Golota hater you damn well sanctioning bodies test extremely thouroughly for substance abuse and you are just trying to slag off Golota's performance against Bowe and make excsuses for Bowe, because you simply hate Golota.

Ruiz beat the crap out of Golota until he cried.

You just are a Golota hater you damn well sanctioning bodies test extremely thouroughly for substance abuse and you are just trying to slag off Golota's performance against Bowe and make excsuses for Bowe, because you simply hate Golota.

golota is a good heavyweight and beat the snot out of bowe..anyway i didnt include those fights because i wanted opinions on the fights i listed

Ruiz beat the crap out of Golota until he cried.


Ruiz is the pretender he was defending Golota's belt against Toney. Golota shoudl have been the one defending Golota is the true WBA IBF heavyweight champion!

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Ruiz is the pretender he was defending Golota's belt against Toney. Golota shoudl have been the one defending Golota is the true WBA IBF heavyweight champion!

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Coulda woulda shoulda. Ruiz held the belt twice while Golota wish he had a belt to hold!

well im saying at the least he won 6 rounds..how did the judges have it floyd winning the fight by 4 rounds
politics baby, promoters win decisions, not the fighters

You failed to mention the following robberies

Axel Schulz vs Foreman
Tapia vs Ayala -twice
Holmes vs. Spinks
George Bush vs. Al Gore

i think the question should be changed to which wasn't a robbery. in that case i would put spinks-mayorga. the rest were robberies

i voted both castillo fights and both mab-morales fights.
mab-morales had the wrong winner the first two fights.

Winky V.S. Vargas
Sturm V.S. De La Hoya
De La Hoya V.S. Trinidad
Castillo V.S. Mayweather 1


vargas beat winky wow watch that ****.

I dont think Tito -vs- DLH was a robbery, It could of gone either way I personally scored it a draw.

Sturm -vs- Delahoya was a robbery DLH had he worst fight. All the others on the list were pretty close fights.

Golota vs Byrd
Golota vs Ruiz

biggest robberies

Golota should be WBA IBF champion right now, and considered #1 heavyweight.

I think the Golota-Byrd fight was too close to call it a "robbery", but Fres Oquendo should have been IBF champ that night anyway because Oquendo WAS robbed against Byrd.

Ruiz definitely beat Golota on my card.

Biggest robberies I've seen (I'm a fairly new fan...)

Matt Vanda vs. Sam Garr
Chris Byrd vs. Fres Oquendo
Rico Hoye vs. Montell Griffin

You failed to mention the following robberies

Axel Schulz vs Foreman
Tapia vs Ayala -twice
Holmes vs. Spinks
George Bush vs. Al Gore

I forgot about Foreman/Schulz. I agree.

yea i watched the burton vs. agustus fight on espn's friday night fights, burton is my favorite fighter for his class but WOW i never saw that decision comming, did anyone see that fight on espn and watch the announcer yell and scream on live tv about the fight and what he said is very true, "this kind of **** is whats bringing down the boxing world and putting it brankrupt"

My Vote went to Both DLH fights. Clear robbery in both cases.

DLH won against Tito, on the other side of the asle, he was out of shape, out of range, out of luck and clearly out-boxed by Strum. (Damn I just sounded like Merchant LOL)

castillo vs mayweather is another one.. but I didn't vote for it as a clear robbery.

Some others, including McKay's Golota fights, are Too close to call and could have gone either way or to a Draw as they did.

definitely Castillo vs Mayweather...........

Golota vs Byrd
Golota vs Ruiz

biggest robberies

Golota should be WBA IBF champion right now, and considered #1 heavyweight.


I agree that Golota won both of those fights.

I think the Trinidad v Hoya fight was a bigger upset though.

vargas beat winky wow watch that ****.

I have watched it. Winky won the first 8 rounds and slacked off in the championship rounds. That is why the decision was unfairly given to Vargas. Judges made a critical error in that fight, similar to the trinidad/DLH.

I have watched it. Winky won the first 8 rounds and slacked off in the championship rounds. That is why the decision was unfairly given to Vargas. Judges made a critical error in that fight, similar to the trinidad/DLH.
Trinidad beat DLH, and Winky beat Vargas. Winky can fight toe to toe, he gave Vargas all sorts of trouble.

Oscar De La Hoya Robbed Felix Sturm