View Full Version : I can only think of one fight that rivals Corrales/Castillo.
SnoopySmurf 05-09-2005, 03:30 PM And that's Frank Lyle vs George Foreman. There was not one boring round here, despite the two bohemoths and their questionable stamina. Their punches were of collossal magnitude. Both went down.
But I still like Castillo/Corrales fight better. :D :boxing:
Anyone have a better fight than Castillo/Corrales?
wmute 05-09-2005, 03:32 PM And that's Frank Lyle vs George Foreman. There was not one boring round here, despite the two bohemoths and their questionable stamina. Their punches were of collossal magnitude. Both went down.
But I still like Castillo/Corrales fight better. :D :boxing:
Anyone have a better fight than Castillo/Corrales?
hagler-hearns, but it was more a case of the 1st round being the best round ever, and the remaining not on the same level
Slipx 05-09-2005, 03:33 PM And that's Frank Lyle vs George Foreman. There was not one boring round here, despite the two bohemoths and their questionable stamina. Their punches were of collossal magnitude. Both went down.
But I still like Castillo/Corrales fight better. :D :boxing:
Anyone have a better fight than Castillo/Corrales?
hagler/hearns was a better fight than castillo /corrales.
while there was lots of action in castillo/corrales, and lots of punches landing, and a great ending...it still doesn't live up to the power of the punches, or the tempo of the fight, that hagler/hearns did
i think castillo/corrales is more entertaining over a period of time but, hagler/hearns was the best first round in boxing, ever.
And that's Frank Lyle vs George Foreman. There was not one boring round here, despite the two bohemoths and their questionable stamina. Their punches were of collossal magnitude. Both went down.
But I still like Castillo/Corrales fight better. :D :boxing:
Anyone have a better fight than Castillo/Corrales?
It was a great fight but there were many better fights than castillo corralles. What about Hagler Hearns or any of the Ward-Gatti fights.
wmute 05-09-2005, 03:33 PM wait you mean ron lyle
SnoopySmurf 05-09-2005, 03:35 PM wait you mean ron lyle
Ron? damn! Sorry!
I have the Hagler/Hearns fight. Remember, this thread is what YOU think is better. I'm not here to debate. I respect all your opinions.....even though mine is right. ;) <-- notice the wink.
jabsRstiff 05-09-2005, 03:35 PM It was a great fight but there were many better fights than castillo corralles. What about Hagler Hearns or any of the Ward-Gatti fights.
The second Gatti-Ward fight was one-sided (though still a good fight).
The third was a war, but nowhere in Corrales-Castillo's league.
The first one ? A classic...BUT.....Gatti & Ward are not as good as Corrales or Castillo....their fight was not nearly as important.....DID NOT have more action.....& DID NOT have the FINISH that Chico-JLC did..
Truth 05-09-2005, 03:36 PM Was Corrales vs. Castillo really that great? I better find way to see this fight.
jabsRstiff 05-09-2005, 03:40 PM Was Corrales vs. Castillo really that great? I better find way to see this fight.
Y-E-S !
I have been following boxing, like a nut, since '81....& this fight is as brutal & astonishing as any I've ever seen.
From start to finish.....you couldn't ask for much more action.....but then the finish is like something you'll never see.
legend 05-09-2005, 05:10 PM I was wondering if anybody else saw James Toney and Winky Wright signaling to Corrales to keep hitting Castillo in that brutal 10th round. After it was stopped, both of them were going absolutely nuts.
SacTown1 05-09-2005, 05:18 PM hagler-hearns, but it was more a case of the 1st round being the best round ever, and the remaining not on the same level
in terms of ebb and flow and a dramatic KO, only 1 fight stands alone, not sure if everyone here got to see it live but
ARTURO GATTI - WILSON RODRIGUEZ
I'm not a big Gatti fan, but this was easily the best back and forth fight I've ever seen, even Emmanuel Steward says it's the best fight he's ever witnessed....
BOTH of Gatti's eyes were nearly closed after only 2 rounds, he was dropped in round two, came back to floor Rodriguez in the 5th, and KO'd him with a picture-perfect left-hook in the 6th
hagler/hearns was a better fight than castillo /corrales.
while there was lots of action in castillo/corrales, and lots of punches landing, and a great ending...it still doesn't live up to the power of the punches, or the tempo of the fight, that hagler/hearns did
i think castillo/corrales is more entertaining over a period of time but, hagler/hearns was the best first round in boxing, ever.
I can see where you could take Hagler v. Hearns but when you talk about power punches I think you are missing something.
On Saturday all they thru were power punches and they were repeatedly hurt and they continue to come back. In Hagler v. Hearn...Hagler was hurt and was able to come back and when Hearns got rocked he was not able to continue at the torrid pace.
Difference is in the chins of both Diego and Castillo...had Hearns had a better chin the fight would have gone a bit longer...and in my mind then been exactly what we saw on Saturday night.
WE SAW TEN ROUND HAGLER V. HEARNS, the hell with the three rounder.
Ill take Chico v. Castillo over Hearns v. Hagler but I can see the opposing view.
PapiShasho 05-09-2005, 06:08 PM all these gatti fights are not even close. that gatti- rodriguez was a great comeback, but a great comeback doesnt necessarily mean a great fight.
tito has been knocked down plenty of times and came back to win. we're talking about action all the way through.
hagler-hearns doesnt compare. people saying that fight was better than this one are saying it for old times sake, or to seem old-school.
a vicious 3 round fight that ends in a KO does not compare to a vicious 10 round fight that ends the way castillo-corrales did.
castillo-corrales had time to build up the drama during the fight, from castillo's cut over the left eye, to corrales welt under his left eye, etc.
it was a movie that ended soon after the climax and left you wanting more.
onetwopunch 05-09-2005, 09:26 PM That was a great fight..but has anyone here ever seen James
James Page -vs- Jose Luis Lopez..that fight was awesome.
neils7147933 05-09-2005, 09:27 PM all these gatti fights are not even close. that gatti- rodriguez was a great comeback, but a great comeback doesnt necessarily mean a great fight.
tito has been knocked down plenty of times and came back to win. we're talking about action all the way through.
hagler-hearns doesnt compare. people saying that fight was better than this one are saying it for old times sake, or to seem old-school.
a vicious 3 round fight that ends in a KO does not compare to a vicious 10 round fight that ends the way castillo-corrales did.
castillo-corrales had time to build up the drama during the fight, from castillo's cut over the left eye, to corrales welt under his left eye, etc.
it was a movie that ended soon after the climax and left you wanting more.
good post; I still think I prefer Ward-Gatti I to Corrales-Castillo but this fight was amazing.
neils7147933 05-09-2005, 09:28 PM Was Corrales vs. Castillo really that great? I better find way to see this fight.
The Truth - I've seen at least 3 download links on this site today. It shouldn't be hard to download a copy. If you have an issue with connection speed, pm me your mailing address and I'll get a CD-R to you with a high quality dub of the fight.
The Troll 05-09-2005, 09:28 PM Golota vs Bowe II was better IMO Gatti vs Ward I was better IMO its the 3rd best fight I have seen.
jabsRstiff 05-10-2005, 07:29 AM Golota vs Bowe II was better IMO Gatti vs Ward I was better IMO its the 3rd best fight I have seen.
Golota-Bowe II ?
I can see that being your favorite fight.....but that is in no way a BETTER fight than Corrales-Castillo.
It was one-sided (Bowe had one moment where he had Golota going) for the most part....& had a very unsatisfying ending.
The Golden Boy 05-10-2005, 10:59 AM Not necessarily better but i would say that these fights are on the same level:
- Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez I
- Barrera vs Morales I & 3
- Gatti vs Ward I
- Gatti vs Robinson I
simeraksou 05-10-2005, 12:29 PM corrales-castillo was definitely a super fight but i think hagler-hearns is a bit better for several reasons--hagler and hearns are much more skilled than corrales and castillo and the hagler-hearns fight was a much, much bigger fight. hagler and hearns are hall of fame fighters among the best boxers in their weight division or any weight division ever--a much higher level than corrales-castillo. It didn't go as many rounds as corrales-castillo but hagler is one of the best finishers in the history of boxing.
SacTown1 05-10-2005, 01:20 PM Not necessarily better but i would say that these fights are on the same level:
- Michael Carbajal vs Humberto Gonzalez I
- Barrera vs Morales I & 3
- Gatti vs Ward I
- Gatti vs Robinson I
GREAT POST - I forgot about the Chiquita-Carbajal showdown, my grandparents were in Phoenix for Carbajal's grand home-coming following the victory, it was one of the biggest fiesta's in the history of Arizona....
I haven't heard any Chavez-Taylor comments in this thread yet, that one's still gotta be top 5 all-time.....
DR. FREECLOUD 05-10-2005, 01:27 PM Was Corrales vs. Castillo really that great? I better find way to see this fight.
pm me if you still need to see the fight
abdiel2k3 05-10-2005, 01:28 PM Was Corrales vs. Castillo really that great? I better find way to see this fight.
no
it was better
Brz_Pugilist 05-10-2005, 01:37 PM I loved this fight.One of my two favorite fights where Duran-Barkley and Taylor-Chavez, just incredible action,i have Castillo-Corrales in that mold.
PRboxingfan 05-10-2005, 01:50 PM I think my avatar says how much I liked Hagler-Hearns but I will say that this fight is equal, if not better, than that one because of two things: it is more recent and the fight lasted longer (therefore, more action).
vizcaya 05-10-2005, 02:56 PM Nigel Benn vs. Gerald McClellan was just as brutal, and ended very dramatically.
loangunZ 05-10-2005, 03:07 PM wow I just watching it t see toney and winky, haha winky was waving his arms all over the place on his cell and toney was jumping around all crazy in his nice suit.
Slipx 05-10-2005, 03:38 PM On Saturday all they thru were power punches and they were repeatedly hurt and they continue to come back.
the difference...
is that both thomas hearns and marvin hagler both punch much harder than castillo or corrales
you don't understand the power hearns right hand had in it. one time when hearns was on the ropes he landed the right hand, and this punch moved hagler's head about a foot to the left, and his chin was buried, mind you.. no punch in the castillo/corrales bout was that hard. he kept comin like a monster. that punch broke hearns right hand
Slipx 05-10-2005, 03:40 PM hagler-hearns doesnt compare. people saying that fight was better than this one are saying it for old times sake, or to seem old-school.
spoken like a true novice
jabsRstiff 05-10-2005, 03:42 PM the difference...
is that both thomas hearns and marvin hagler both punch much harder than castillo or corrales
lb4lb.....Corrales is a harder hitter than Hagler was.
Before you argue, SlipX.....I am probably the biggest Hagler fan in history.
He was a very good puncher.....but was more of a sharp-shooter who used accuracy & well-placed/thrown combos to damage his foes.
Certainly Hagler is a far superior fighter....but Corrales is a major-league puncher, one of the hardest punchers I've seen in the lower weight classes.
As for Hearns....well, aren't too many fighters in history with his power.
SnoopySmurf 05-10-2005, 03:42 PM the difference...
is that both thomas hearns and marvin hagler both punch much harder than castillo or corrales
you don't understand the power hearns right hand had in it. one time when hearns was on the ropes he landed the right hand, and this punch moved hagler's head about a foot to the left. he kept comin like a monster. that punch broke hearns right hand
Middle weights naturally throw harder punches than light weights.
Slipx 05-10-2005, 03:45 PM also the tempo of the first round in hagler/hearns was like nothing ever seen
hagler comes with the lead left hook at full power. they exchange, hearns gets against the ropes and uses the ropes to add leverage to his punches. full speed action, no back and forth, both fighters just brawling their hearts out
corrales/castillo lacked that first round tempo, and lacked the brawling. it was more of a you hit me, i hit you back fight...not sayin the fight wasnt a great fight, it was, but it didnt have **** on hagler/hearns
Middle weights naturally throw harder punches than light weights.
LMFAO.................
simeraksou 05-10-2005, 03:50 PM Also, in hagler-hearns no one had to spit out their mouthpiece
also the tempo of the first round in hagler/hearns was like nothing ever seen
hagler comes with the lead left hook at full power. they exchange, hearns gets against the ropes and uses the ropes to add leverage to his punches. full speed action, no back and forth, both fighters just brawling their hearts out
corrales/castillo lacked that first round tempo, and lacked the brawling. it was more of a you hit me, i hit you back fight...not sayin the fight wasnt a great fight, it was, but it didnt have **** on hagler/hearns
hugefan87 05-10-2005, 03:50 PM Corrales vs castillo was great and is currently on my list fight of the year, but im thinking hatton tzsue will be better
The Troll 05-10-2005, 03:50 PM also the tempo of the first round in hagler/hearns was like nothing ever seen
hagler comes with the lead left hook at full power. they exchange, hearns gets against the ropes and uses the ropes to add leverage to his punches. full speed action, no back and forth, both fighters just brawling their hearts out
corrales/castillo lacked that first round tempo, and lacked the brawling. it was more of a you hit me, i hit you back fight...not sayin the fight wasnt a great fight, it was, but it didnt have **** on hagler/hearns
yes it was seen, Hagler fought Alan Minter of the United Kingdom in the exact same way he fought Hearns. And Hagler gained his middleweight title from beating Alan Minter.
jabsRstiff 05-10-2005, 03:50 PM One of the advantages Hagler-Hearns has over Corrales-Castillo...is the fact that it was HAGLER-HEARNS.
They were the two best fighters in the world at the time.
Same thing with Chavez-Taylor. That fight was fought at such an unbelievably high level, both guys showing EVERYTHING that makes boxing great.
The advantage Castillo-Corrales has is the BRUTALITY. I think those two f*cked each other up very badly, & did do so with a good level of skill.
It also had the kind of ending you can only dream of !
Many ways to look at what makes one fight greater than the other.
archiemoore 05-10-2005, 09:09 PM i have not seen any thing better because its the only fight that i did not want to see either man get hit any more
Whoa. I just got through watching this one, and the ending had me leaping off the sofa. What a storybook! I don't know where Corrales summoned the strength to finish that tenth, but did he ever.
I think there were a few signs he wasn't as hurt as he may have appeared, or as he could have been after those Castillo hooks. The punch that caused the first KD was solid, but the second shot looked more like it just threw Chicho off-balance--and he may have been foggy still. He certainly had the wherewithal to
(a)lose the mouthpiece to gain time and
(b)argue that he was losing a point for it.
With two knockdowns, he wasn't going to win the round on points, so kudos on a brilliant tactical move. I also think it showed during the final flurry that he hadn't been tagged really hard, as Castillo landed some hard shots countering: shots that could have taken Chico out had he really been hurt. A brilliant finish.
Including the 10-7 10th round, I had 95-93 Castillo at the time of the KO. I didn't think Castillo had won as many rounds with late flurries as the Showtime goombahs thought he had. Does anyone know the official cards for this one?
As fight fans, we are indebted to both fighters. My vote for fight of the year so far.
SnoopySmurf 05-11-2005, 09:01 AM also the tempo of the first round in hagler/hearns was like nothing ever seen
hagler comes with the lead left hook at full power. they exchange, hearns gets against the ropes and uses the ropes to add leverage to his punches. full speed action, no back and forth, both fighters just brawling their hearts out
corrales/castillo lacked that first round tempo, and lacked the brawling. it was more of a you hit me, i hit you back fight...not sayin the fight wasnt a great fight, it was, but it didnt have **** on hagler/hearns
The way i see this being better than Hagler/Hearns is like this :
Hagler/Hearns = quickie in the backseat with a hot cheerleader
Corrales/Castillo = all nighter in a bedroom with a hot cheerleader:starting with her strip teasing, fellatio, foreplay, spanking, screwing, spanking-and-screwing and then a big climactic gigantic orgasm of Biblical proportion that will make you quiver for the next 60 years as you fondly remember it into you old age.
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