View Full Version : Ur take on the lead hannd?
The Surgeon 01-31-2010, 09:31 AM Traditonally ur supposed to lead with ur weaker hand and have the stronger hand in reserve for the big cross ect, ie im right handed and i jab with my left hand, coss with my stronger right hand.
But i only do that because thats what i was taught, nearly everyone who walks into a gym starts out standing in the opposite stance, i went in southpaw, strong hand leading for example. Some trainner tells u its wrong and u fix it.
BUT IS IT?
Over the years there have been many great fighters who fight conventionally but are naturall southpaws ie, Tyson, Oscar and Cotto, Tyson was a Freak who could punch a hole through a tank with either hand but Cotto and De la Hoya had, excellent left hands, their most effective weapons were the jab and hook, now the jab should be the most used punch in any fighters arsenal so ud want it to be ur strong hand doing the jabbing right? There crosses werent the greatest as a result tho.
Im not sure what to think. I wonder why more RIGHTYS dont fight southpaw, u get the abouve advantages plus the bonus of having an awkward stance for most guys, i mean who likes fighting a southpaw right??
I dunno, whats ur take?
Shadow boxer 3 01-31-2010, 09:45 AM its just personal preference. i dont think its a wrong way, which ever one feels right for you. aslo marvin hagler lead with his strong hand.
iceman1 01-31-2010, 09:47 AM im both handed so i can fight either left or right hand leading
but at the gym i see the majority fighting normal stance not many southpaws
fdotorres 01-31-2010, 01:03 PM IMO, southpaws should learn both stances. they have more advantages than righties
that's what i've done in my gym. half my mitt work is for each stance
it's true that the jab is the most important punch, but for a southpaw to fight in an orthodox style, he must first develop an excellent right hand. cotto never had that and needed it against pacquiao and judah, since it's the best way to beat soutpaws
One more round 01-31-2010, 08:05 PM Leading with your power hand is very advantageous in some cases. If you are a left handed orthodox you will have a stiff jab, solid left hook, and since most people are trained to circle away from your right hand, they will often walk right into your real power hand.
But if you are a left handed orthodox fighting a southpaw, it can be tough. You often need a good right hand vs a southpaw, and if you are left handed orthodox you might not have really developed a good one.
That's why Oscar always had trouble with southpaws, and why some of Cotto's toughest nights were Judah and Pacquiao.
One more round 01-31-2010, 08:06 PM Leading with your power hand is very advantageous in some cases. If you are a left handed orthodox you will have a stiff jab, solid left hook, and since most people are trained to circle away from your right hand, they will often walk right into your real power hand.
But if you are a left handed orthodox fighting a southpaw, it can be tough. You often need a good right hand vs a southpaw, and if you are left handed orthodox you might not have really developed a good one.
That's why Oscar always had trouble with southpaws, and why some of Cotto's toughest nights were Judah and Pacquiao.
thatjamaicanguy 01-31-2010, 11:14 PM i don't think Mike was naturally left handed, he just went southpaw a few times because he has power in each hand
i think if you're orthodox and you're fighting a southpaw, and you know how to fight a southpaw, then you should be able to use all of a southpaw's advantages against him
it's not like southpaws are invincible against orthodox fighters or something
Feint 02-01-2010, 10:48 PM I don’t know, there obviously is several examples of fighters who have found success leading with their more dominant hand. But more often than not unless you are naturally ambidextrous it only weakens serves to weaken your cross.
My feeling is that you are better off developing the accuracy of your jab and using it to set up your more dominant (and stronger) punches.
thatjamaicanguy 02-01-2010, 11:38 PM when Marquez fought Pacquiao for the second time, Marquez was using all of a "southpaw's" advantages against a southpaw
he kept pacman away with his straight right, and kept away from that huge left of Pacquiao's
Don Flamenco 02-02-2010, 01:16 AM when Marquez fought Pacquiao for the second time, Marquez was using all of a "southpaw's" advantages against a southpaw
he kept pacman away with his straight right, and kept away from that huge left of Pacquiao's
And what is interesting is Pacquio is a naturally right handed.
I dunno, I've been leading with my left hand for so long that I feel it's my strongest hand. My right hand has felt slow lately.
Versastyle 02-02-2010, 01:25 AM I have almost equal power in both hands but I'm orthodox, but I move hell of a lot better in southpaw. That's weird ****.
Tsukiyomi 02-02-2010, 03:31 AM I'm always tempted to fight southpaw to have that strong lead, I'm like a reverse Oscar in so much as I have a strong right arm and a weak left arm. Ultimately I stick with orthodox, though.
EzzardFan 02-02-2010, 06:34 AM I'm right handed but fight with a right hand lead. When people feel my jab they are like "holy **** if that's just his jab then I don't want to get hit by his left".
The benefits for me is that it is very easy to hit an orthodox opponent with my lead (right) hook, which is also my hardest punch. Throwing the rear hook is not a problem but i do struggle a lot with the cross.
ADozenArrows 02-02-2010, 04:53 PM It's definitely worth trying both styles. You ultimately decide in which stance you feel strongest. Don't let anyone else tell you differently.
-Hyperion- 02-02-2010, 11:19 PM train basketball and become almost ambidextrous......it really helps...
shogunn 02-03-2010, 03:05 AM Im right handed, when I fight southpaw naturally my jab-hooks are alot better, but my straight lefts are really slow. I box in and trap better from a southpaw stance with my dominant right in front, but I can switch anytime. My left jab is getting alot better but my left hooks are horrible. I like doing both...but I know I cant stay southpaw for an entire match.
The Surgeon 02-03-2010, 03:44 PM And what is interesting is Pacquio is a naturally right hand
That true???
Double Jab 02-03-2010, 04:29 PM That true???
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268160
As far as the thread topic goes, I started out orthadox (I am right handed) and did that for a few years. Recently I have switched to southpaw (just for fun and for the hell of it) and noticed three major things that have really helped me.
1. My jab is much better as well as my lead hook either for ending a combo or as a counter (considering not alot of people expect alot of power from an akward angle)
2. When I threw my right hand when I was orthadox, I threw it so hard when I fought I was completely off balance sometimes, and I completely ignored the jab when the pressure came on and a fire fight started. When southpaw, I dont extend as much (I cant because if I do i feel uncomfortable) and I have a nice jolting feel to both my hands, which really helps with quick counters and overall power in all my punches.
3. My most important advantage I noticed, is the fact my footwork has increased literally around 3X. When I stepped with the left foot, I basically only moved forward and back unless I really thought about it, and still then, I was off balance sometimes. When southpaw, my quicker, better controlled leg dictates where I move, how to distribute the weight, as well as makes pivoting a hell of a lot easier. Angles are so much simpler to get to if you control yourself with your dominant leg. Its great to feel comfortable when I move, it's awesome to use footwork to angle off so the opponent can never set up a good combination.
F l i c k e r 02-03-2010, 06:12 PM Im ambidextrous. So, I can fight both sides.
My feelings on the lead hand though, is that it should be the one to do everything. So I when I fight southpaw, the hand with the most work is the right hand.
When I fight orthodox, I become a textbook boxer. Oscar Dela Hoya type. Jab to set up everything for the right howitzer cannon.
Opponents are forever off balance when fighting me. You can't get into a rythm, and you can't prepare for me either. I will come in orthodox, next round I might be southpaw. One side leans towards power, and the other leans towards speed. It will forever keep you guessing.
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