View Full Version : Why are there no gay boxers?
!! Anorak 11-30-2004, 04:50 PM I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
m00ks 11-30-2004, 04:57 PM 1/30 people are gay. Theres not a lot in the boxing world because when you are gay. You tend to lean on the feminine side. Beating the shit out of the other guy would not attract the gay community. I'd think they'd rather shop than train.
John Ruiz is a homosexual. Why the hell do you think he clinches so much?!? It's cuz the other guy has his shirt off and could not resist to rub his body onto the sweaty muscular physique of his opponents.
plexmc 11-30-2004, 04:58 PM What kinda question is this? Every one knows being a gay boxer is just not right
I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
I use the word gay all the time, I tell my friends there gay etc. I use it like I use the word "the". Although politically incorrect I don't mean any harm by it. I am a pretty thoughtful liberal, I think gay marriage should be allowed( civil unions are fine by me as well) and a constitutional amendment to take away peoples rights is absolutley ridiculous(although it was an amazing poltical manuever that historians will be talking about for years..KArl Rove). Point is that I am not going to stop calling people gay and on the same token I refuse to persecute someone because of how they lie down/or get off. I think it's great if someone gets off I could give a **** who its with...Id rather see someone getting off than just sitting there watching all the hetros have good "proper" fun. This post should at least expose a few *** hatters...(oh *** is another word I use alot and don't mean anything by).
As for the reception a gay fighter would recieve...hmmm. We live in for the most part a homophobic society...granted we are gradually changing but like I said its gradual. Just like the blacks and the civil rights act it takes time for ignorance to past. Hell there are still segregated proms in places like Georgia-it will never be totally cool. I personally could care less about who Lennox LEwis was ****ing as long as he was taking care of business in the ring...why would someone care??? Oh I know maybe the bible....truth or fairy tale you make the call...I will say this though-I refuse to persecute gays and try and say that they are immorral or whatever...I will take that to my grave and if I ever get a chance to go see the big guy up above-Ill explain to him that his beloved book got distorted some where along the way..if he says that it didn't and the Jerry Fallwells/Jimmy Swaggert/Gary Bauers of the world had the correct interpretation...then I will happily tell god to send me straight to hell!
Sorry for going crazy here, I just get a little excited sometime.
Hurlex 11-30-2004, 05:06 PM rahman comes to mind..have u guys ever seen how he stands at weight ins...there something wrong with that dude
Syd Barrett 11-30-2004, 05:08 PM Lennox Lewis is a flamer. So is Ruiz. :eek:
!! Anorak 11-30-2004, 05:09 PM You'd think with prejudice it would inspire some homosexuals to turn to violence, and then into boxing... just law of averages. But it seems not.
You're right, Scap, let's see if there's haters coming out. (No pun intended)
The Fix 11-30-2004, 05:13 PM Lennox Lewis is a flamer. So is Ruiz. :eek:
is that true?
Ranger2408 11-30-2004, 05:15 PM They don't allow handbags in the ring
I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
...there may not be any gay boxers but there are plenty of gay threads created just for the sake of getting up ones post count in order to download fights. :)
elveiel 11-30-2004, 05:18 PM Are you sure there are no gays? Why else would a fighter wear a skirt??
http://www.scandinavian-boxing-rankings.dk/international-records/pictures/Johnny-Nelson.jpg
Chop chop even wears make up to fight!!
http://www.ufc*********.com/mayorga-forrest/images/DSC_6377.jpg
Atwa_66 11-30-2004, 05:21 PM 1/30 people are gay. Theres not a lot in the boxing world because when you are gay. You tend to lean on the feminine side. Beating the shit out of the other guy would not attract the gay community. I'd think they'd rather shop than train.
John Ruiz is a homosexual. Why the hell do you think he clinches so much?!? It's cuz the other guy has his shirt off and could not resist to rub his body onto the sweaty muscular physique of his opponents.
HAHAHAHA John Ruiz most definietely is a homosexual, good point too.
Atwa_66 11-30-2004, 05:22 PM 1/30 people are gay. Theres not a lot in the boxing world because when you are gay. You tend to lean on the feminine side. Beating the shit out of the other guy would not attract the gay community. I'd think they'd rather shop than train.
John Ruiz is a homosexual. Why the hell do you think he clinches so much?!? It's cuz the other guy has his shirt off and could not resist to rub his body onto the sweaty muscular physique of his opponents.
HAHAHAHA John Ruiz most definitely is a homosexual, good point too.
Syd Barrett 11-30-2004, 05:22 PM a constitutional amendment to take away peoples rights is absolutley ridiculous
I agree.
There are fags in every sport, boxing included. They just don't flaunt it.
Atwa_66 11-30-2004, 05:22 PM wow sorry about the double post thing, won't happen again
LuKahnLi 11-30-2004, 05:22 PM Cuz people are too scared of boxers to ask them.
dansweeney 11-30-2004, 05:22 PM lewis is without a doubt a homosexual, what other heavyweight champ wanted to be cld the "pugilist specialist"? the man is 6foot5 and he wants a feminine nickname? that proves it right there
m00ks 11-30-2004, 05:26 PM I agree.
There are fags in every sport, boxing included. They just don't flaunt it.
fo sho, I mean if your opponent found out you were a ***, how much would you get the shit beat out of you?
BostonGuy 11-30-2004, 05:29 PM In any sport, there is an unwritten rule that prohibits athlete from disclosing if they are gay. I mean how many NBA or NFL players do you know are gay? I couldn't name any, nor do I care about an athlete's sexualality.
In boxing,in particular, the way a player markets himself is part of how much they can command in terms of paydays. Their boxing ability is a big part but so is their market appeal. Most people in this country have a predudice against gays otherwise George W Bush wouldn't have been reelected. I have nothing against gays(I live in a state where gay marriage is law) but I don't think I would be such a big Ali,tyson,foreman fan if those guys were gay! As a straight guy, I would have loved to get the women Ali,tyson,foreman got in their life times and for that reason I can identify and follow a straight fighter not a gay one.
LuKahnLi 11-30-2004, 05:30 PM Benny Paret seemed to think that Emile Griffith was gay. There were many rumors that suggested it. When Paret actually publicly spoke on the rumors, Griffith literally KILLED him in the ring.
Tyson'scolon 11-30-2004, 05:30 PM Why are you so sure there are no gay boxers?
!! Anorak 11-30-2004, 05:35 PM ..there may not be any gay boxers but there are plenty of gay threads created just for the sake of getting up ones post count in order to download fightsSo you've seen other gay threads then?
Don't make accusations against me... I thought this was an interesting and original point, perhaps indicated by the fact that it's already on its third page. If I wanted to boost my post count I could do it far more easily. In fact, all I'd have to do is post about 15 "Yeah, I agree" posts tonight and I'd be there.
vandaNEXTlegend 11-30-2004, 05:37 PM Well I must admit Chris Byrd looks like a gay boxer with that little pawing jab of his.
plexmc 11-30-2004, 05:51 PM ...there may not be any gay boxers but there are plenty of gay threads created just for the sake of getting up ones post count in order to download fights. :)
I feel u on that
spinksjinx 11-30-2004, 05:54 PM Their is some british boxer who is called "the pink pounder" and supposedly is pretty decent.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/839788/posts
http://www.q.co.za/2001/2003/02/10-gayboxing.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/low/boxing/2736783.stm
!! Anorak 11-30-2004, 05:55 PM plexmcI feel u on thatSee my above reply. Weird how people supposedly not interested in the topic are joining this thread.
!! Anorak 11-30-2004, 06:08 PM EXPOSE!!!
Hey, Plexmc, I'm not stalking you or anything, but you posted to this thread heavily inferring that I only created it to reach 100 posts. Frankly, that p***ed me off.
As you'd only just passed the 100 mark yourself, I decided to see what words of wisdom had made up your honoured membership, what nuggets of insight into the world of boxing had made you able to download the fights this site offers.
Here's what I found...
Of your total posts, nearly all of them are a single sentence or phrase, with a whopping THIRTY-TWO of them simply "I feel u on that". A DOZEN are "that's real talk", not to mention the eight "word up on that" occurences.
As I said, don't get me wrong, I'm no psycho - it's just that when I've been accused of misusing this forum I don't expect to hear it from someone who's placed himself in a position to watch fights by posting the same repetitive phrase over THIRTY TIMES. People, glass houses...
I AM looking forward to seeing those fights, though. But I can wait... I've been a member for weeks now. As a matter of fact, I was going to suggest the level be increased to something less easily obtainable. (Though after I've reached it, natch. :) )
You feel me on that?
Kimmy 11-30-2004, 06:46 PM Bristish heavyweight Mickeal Holden is openly queer, i mean gay, He beat Juilus Francis a few years back, Fancis lst to Tyson in 2000! Lennox lewis comes across as gay but who knows? Only famous boxer that is openly decieving the public is Johnny Breddal of the netherlands!
P@pasmurf 11-30-2004, 07:05 PM I heard lennox was gay.
abdiel2k3 11-30-2004, 07:19 PM well we did allow gays but we ended up making them leave
sry hamed but ur kind is no longer welcome
lmao
MexicanBoxer 11-30-2004, 08:01 PM i think awhile back some where peope i the classic section poeple said tha emmile Griffit was gay,but i don't know if i spelled his name right.
MexicanBoxer 11-30-2004, 08:03 PM ahhhhhhh smack talk hahahah that sh1t was tight, i was a smack talk champion and word 4 word the most exciting smack talker.............I wass HANDZ OF STOE MUAHAHAHAHA HA THAT SH1T GOT OLD FOR A WHILE.
outofit 11-30-2004, 08:16 PM . gay
P@pasmurf 11-30-2004, 08:17 PM this is kind of a dumb thread. There is plenty of gay athletes, when the last you heard of one being open about it? Never, because pro sports would net accept them. Im SURE there is at least a few gay boxers.
FUBAR 11-30-2004, 08:53 PM I'm an open-minded guy and all the more power to any limp-wristed lilly's who want to try their hand at the fight game.
Even though it's ignorant, if I ever saw a straight boxer getting slammed by a cakeboy I would definitely feel a little embarrassment for that fighter.
psychopath 11-30-2004, 09:03 PM If ever there are real gay boxers, no fighter would ever admit it. This sports is all about power and machisimo . . . :D
neils7147933 11-30-2004, 09:27 PM http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/sucks11.jpg
deuce_drop 11-30-2004, 09:32 PM i heard rumors that Donald Curry was gay, what does it matter though. i know ****ing and fighting seem to go hand and hand, but, not in pro sports. it should be totally left out of the whole equation. whatever a person does in their private life should be left private, unless it is against the law or it's not consenting.... if it became big in the sport, promoters would have a whole new way of promoting fights........alla mad tv, when they made fun of don king for having an all gay card "saturday night sissy fights", that was funny...... but who cares, there would be more of a insentive for a fighter to train hard so he wouldn't get ko'd by a gay guy. try explainning how you got ko'd by a guy who slaps....
whdempsey 11-30-2004, 09:37 PM is that true?
No it is not.
whdempsey 11-30-2004, 09:40 PM Panama Al Brown is the only gay champion I know of. If there are any gay boxers they don't mention it because it would incite widespread criticism. Furthermore, that's the way it should be. No one cares who you sleep with, so don't talk about it. I would be as uninterested in listening to Mike Tyson talk about fornicating as I would be listening to some fudge packer talk about suckin cock.
I think that last sentence says everything about me.
roXy graziano 11-30-2004, 09:42 PM couldn't have said it better myself
spinksjinx 11-30-2004, 10:05 PM To put an end to all the Lennox BASHING!
He is currently married and is expecting his first child (announced right after the klitshcko fight)
Damn....
simeraksou 11-30-2004, 11:02 PM I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
How would they be received if they came out as gay or entered boxing as gay? I think it would depend on their talent level. If they are exceptionally talented, they would eventually be accepted. Imagine the guy that loses to an exceptionally talented gay fighter though? Hehe...
Itlog 12-01-2004, 12:37 AM EXPOSE!!!
Hey, Plexmc, I'm not stalking you or anything, but you posted to this thread heavily inferring that I only created it to reach 100 posts. Frankly, that p***ed me off.
As you'd only just passed the 100 mark yourself, I decided to see what words of wisdom had made up your honoured membership, what nuggets of insight into the world of boxing had made you able to download the fights this site offers.
Here's what I found...
Of your total posts, nearly all of them are a single sentence or phrase, with a whopping THIRTY-TWO of them simply "I feel u on that". A DOZEN are "that's real talk", not to mention the eight "word up on that" occurences.
As I said, don't get me wrong, I'm no psycho - it's just that when I've been accused of misusing this forum I don't expect to hear it from someone who's placed himself in a position to watch fights by posting the same repetitive phrase over THIRTY TIMES. People, glass houses...
I AM looking forward to seeing those fights, though. But I can wait... I've been a member for weeks now. As a matter of fact, I was going to suggest the level be increased to something less easily obtainable. (Though after I've reached it, natch. :) )
You feel me on that?
Can I get in on that??? lol.... just kidding. Funny you should mention it because I saw him post "That's real talk." on one thread and it didn't make any freaking sense at all.
!! Anorak 12-01-2004, 04:47 PM That's the word.
There have been some funny replies in this thread - "if I ever saw a straight boxer getting slammed by a cakeboy I would definitely feel a little embarrassment for that fighter" for one - but also loads of ignorance and very little sense.
What amazes me are the knee-jerk reactions to this thread, and the fact that 90% of the people who reply seem to think it's not worth talking about, or it "sucks". Weird how it's got to five pages and has so many people who hate it bothering to join in.
Also curious how - as funny as it is - gay is being associated with "camp" or "effeminate". If that were the case then the most likely candidate is Mike Tyson.
But I'm amused by self-contradictory statements along the lines of "I don't care what sexuality someone has, it doesn't bother me, so don't talk about gays". If another minority wasn't represented in the sport questions would be asked, and I thought it was a curious happenstance in the sport, that's all. I'm sorry that 90% of you that spent time replying to this thread thought it was beneath you, but hey...
I thoroughly enjoyed the thread, I was just curious too see who were the homophobs and who weren't....I thought it was a great thread!
!! Anorak 12-01-2004, 05:01 PM Nice one, Scap... in fact, I think this entire thread is the reason why there's no out gay boxers... they'd be lynched!
plexmc 12-05-2004, 11:05 PM EXPOSE!!!
Hey, Plexmc, I'm not stalking you or anything, but you posted to this thread heavily inferring that I only created it to reach 100 posts. Frankly, that p***ed me off.
As you'd only just passed the 100 mark yourself, I decided to see what words of wisdom had made up your honoured membership, what nuggets of insight into the world of boxing had made you able to download the fights this site offers.
Here's what I found...
Of your total posts, nearly all of them are a single sentence or phrase, with a whopping THIRTY-TWO of them simply "I feel u on that". A DOZEN are "that's real talk", not to mention the eight "word up on that" occurences.
As I said, don't get me wrong, I'm no psycho - it's just that when I've been accused of misusing this forum I don't expect to hear it from someone who's placed himself in a position to watch fights by posting the same repetitive phrase over THIRTY TIMES. People, glass houses...
I AM looking forward to seeing those fights, though. But I can wait... I've been a member for weeks now. As a matter of fact, I was going to suggest the level be increased to something less easily obtainable. (Though after I've reached it, natch. :) )
You feel me on that?
You forgot 2 add my 24 "stop bitchen" post
plexmc 12-05-2004, 11:09 PM You forgot 2 add my 24 "stop bitchen" post
I feel u on that
Soundtraveler 12-06-2004, 12:25 AM It seems Anorak is actually trying to discreetly place - "SWM seeking same" ad right here in the forum!
Better get the rope, some tar, and a bunch of feathers boys - this is gonna be messy! LOL
bchynn 12-06-2004, 12:28 AM )
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across.
You've GOT to be joking.
Mr. Violence 12-06-2004, 12:51 AM I never really thought about that
DR. FREECLOUD 12-06-2004, 08:12 AM It seems Anorak is actually trying to discreetly place - "SWM seeking same" ad right here in the forum!
Better get the rope, some tar, and a bunch of feathers boys - this is gonna be messy! LOL
thats some funny shit!!! seriously though, there are alot of gay athletes. and to say that there are no gay boxers is just gay in itself. i mean seriously, just look at all the people here who claim to be boxers.....thats gay. don't try to be something your not.
PRboxingfan 12-06-2004, 08:48 AM I use the word gay all the time, I tell my friends there gay etc. I use it like I use the word "the". Although politically incorrect I don't mean any harm by it. I am a pretty thoughtful liberal, I think gay marriage should be allowed( civil unions are fine by me as well) and a constitutional amendment to take away peoples rights is absolutley ridiculous(although it was an amazing poltical manuever that historians will be talking about for years..KArl Rove). Point is that I am not going to stop calling people gay and on the same token I refuse to persecute someone because of how they lie down/or get off. I think it's great if someone gets off I could give a **** who its with...Id rather see someone getting off than just sitting there watching all the hetros have good "proper" fun. This post should at least expose a few *** hatters...(oh *** is another word I use alot and don't mean anything by).
As for the reception a gay fighter would recieve...hmmm. We live in for the most part a homophobic society...granted we are gradually changing but like I said its gradual. Just like the blacks and the civil rights act it takes time for ignorance to past. Hell there are still segregated proms in places like Georgia-it will never be totally cool. I personally could care less about who Lennox LEwis was ****ing as long as he was taking care of business in the ring...why would someone care??? Oh I know maybe the bible....truth or fairy tale you make the call...I will say this though-I refuse to persecute gays and try and say that they are immorral or whatever...I will take that to my grave and if I ever get a chance to go see the big guy up above-Ill explain to him that his beloved book got distorted some where along the way..if he says that it didn't and the Jerry Fallwells/Jimmy Swaggert/Gary Bauers of the world had the correct interpretation...then I will happily tell god to send me straight to hell!
Sorry for going crazy here, I just get a little excited sometime.
I agree with you 100%
Colonel Jones 12-06-2004, 09:02 AM Because we're lucky
foremanfan 12-07-2004, 08:01 AM God knows where the idea would come from that a gay boxer would be a limp wristed lilly. Maybe they would rather hug than punch ? Hmm I've been reading about the UK's most violent twins who had been known to swing either way shall we say and they certainly seemed to have the stomack for blood and guts.
Dark Destroyer 12-07-2004, 08:07 AM lol. Gay boxers, i cannot blame them for hiding their identities becuase this sport doesn't suit that kind of shit.
cmason 12-07-2004, 09:07 AM i heard a rumour fernando vargas is a ***, does anyone know about this?
triggerhappy 12-07-2004, 05:04 PM any more questions?
Nick1998 12-07-2004, 05:12 PM remember when Chop Chop was on Friday Night Fights before the Judah fight and he was trying on Victoria's Secret bras and saying how he wears womens underwear. I think that is the closest thing you will find to a gay boxer
TheFairPole 12-07-2004, 07:26 PM I only know of 3 gay boxers... Don Flamenco, Hoi Karlo, and Hector "Macho" Camacho!!! Gabby Jay and Glass Joe had pretty gay tendencies too!!! :D
!! Anorak 12-08-2004, 03:05 PM Is this thread still alive[B]?
You forgot 2 add my 24 "stop bitchen" postNow THAT was a classy comeback, I like that one! :)
It seems Anorak is actually trying to discreetly place - "SWM seeking same" ad right here in the forum!I dunno whether I like this one or not though...
!! Anorak 12-10-2004, 08:33 AM BychnnQuote:
Originally Posted by Anorak
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Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across.
You've GOT to be joking.Well, maybe after some of today's dirge I might revise that a little, but there's very little smack talk on here, and people do actually - in the main - want to talk about boxing. Compare it to Boxing Talk. Why, which forums are better? Actually, there's a lot of assholes on here this morning.
PacKillsMorales 12-10-2004, 08:55 AM Why are there no gay boxers?
because they find that all the heterosexual boxers
give the performance of thier careers knowing that
thier against a guy who may fancy them. :D
tikal 12-10-2004, 09:22 AM I bet yall didnt know this former HW champ was gay click with caution (http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~speakers/frankbruno.jpg)
!! Anorak 12-10-2004, 01:12 PM Of course he wasn't.
Dyl-G 12-24-2004, 12:46 AM I bet yall didnt know this former HW champ was gay click with caution (http://www.users.totalise.co.uk/~speakers/frankbruno.jpg)
AH DUDE!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA THATS G-ROSS :eek:
Except lewis? ;)
And maybe Tyson picked up the soap when somebody droped it in the shower during his time(s)in prison. After his prison time I remember him shouting at a journalist at a press conference that he would "take the guy from behind" (in slightly little different wordings :D ) .
Any thoughts about Naseem Hamed? Jorge Paez?
freirui 12-24-2004, 03:58 AM What kinda question is this? Every one knows being a gay boxer is just not right
I agree with you
Chups 12-24-2004, 02:50 PM Don't ask don't tell also applies in Boxing....LOL
Nautilus 12-24-2004, 02:53 PM I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
who cares?
!! Anorak 12-24-2004, 02:56 PM I did, that's why I raised the topic. And you must do, otherwise you wouldn't have entered the thread to see what it was about from the title.
Nautilus 12-24-2004, 02:59 PM I did, that's why I raised the topic. And you must do, otherwise you wouldn't have entered the thread to see what it was about from the title.
Not really, I think a thread like that already came up two weeks ago and a month ago (you can search to see).
Any way, Happy Holidays to you!
!! Anorak 12-24-2004, 06:28 PM Hey, they don't call me Mr. Touchy for nothing! :) You are delightfully abrupt though, Nautilus.
Acutally, this is the two weeks ago thread... it got bumped back up, which was as big as surprise to me as anyone...
JaNnO 12-24-2004, 06:53 PM it's not in gay's nature to fight, let alone smack one's face or get whacked in return. boxing is too brutal for their feminine side.
Tamazight 01-05-2005, 09:03 AM Michele Aboro is gay. I don't know if she's boxing now but she used to be. A couple months ago I saw a docu about her on the Dutch television. She said she's kicked out by Universum because she doesn't want to do the "feminine stuff" like being in the Playboy. I think it's all about image. The male boxers must pretend to be macho's and the female boxers must pretend to be playboy-girls to get the guys hot.
It is pitty that male and female boxers are influenced by the macho image in the boxing world. I think Michele Aboro is not the only one with homosexual orientation in the boxing world. The homosexual boxers are probably afraid to say it in public because of their career. A male boxer need a lot of balls and a female boxer a lot of tits to break out this anxiety and to be free. I don't mean that all homosexual boxers have to say in public what their sexual orientation are. It's up to them to choose to say it or to keep it private.
pimpin2 01-05-2005, 10:22 AM Where do these posts come from? Stupids thread I have ever come across?
Where do these posts come from? Stupids thread I have ever come across?
"These" I do not know, "this one" I know: Anorak. :)
And appearently it IS a good subject: people keep on bump-ing it.
Some are just keeping the thread alive by saying they do not like it. :D
pimpin2 01-05-2005, 02:49 PM Actually I have found one. HIs name is Moscow Bear he's really gay.
Asian Sensation 01-05-2005, 08:00 PM What are you talking about Lennox Lewis was one of the best heavyweights of the last 25 years, and he was gay.
Nautilus 01-05-2005, 09:39 PM But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
Here is a lousy theory. Would you box someone of an opposite sex? Probably not. For gays, men are of "opposite" sex, so they do not like to box them.
This theory does not explain the phenomenon of Ruiz, but only at a first sight. Note however that Ruiz wrestles and hugs men, not boxes them! So Ruiz's case supports the theory rather than contradicts it.
Itchy Sensation says he's a boxer.
He is obviously gay.
!! Anorak 01-06-2005, 08:37 AM "These" I do not know, "this one" I know: Anorak. :)
And appearently it IS a good subject: people keep on bump-ing it.
Some are just keeping the thread alive by saying they do not like it. :DKJ, it's not often you and I agree on something, but you're right - I'm amazed to come on and here and, at least once a week guaranteed, find this thread bumped back up to the first page. How long ago did I make this one anyway? It was at least 350 posts ago, however long that was.
The thread that will not die!
KJ, it's not often you and I agree on something, but you're right - I'm amazed to come on and here and, at least once a week guaranteed, find this thread bumped back up to the first page. How long ago did I make this one anyway? It was at least 350 posts ago, however long that was.
The thread that will not die!
.....Anorak, are you gay? I'm not busting on you either. Your fixation with gay boxers and some other comments you have made lead me to believe that you are. Would you like to out yourself on boxingscene? :)
bpapa420 01-06-2005, 01:49 PM I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
There are no gay boxers because boxing is a mans sport. A gay person may break a nail.
Asian Sensation 01-06-2005, 01:52 PM Itchy Sensation says he's a boxer.
He is obviously gay.
Itchy Sensation? Thats the best you could do? Give me a break.
warped 01-06-2005, 03:58 PM "They don't allow handbags in the ring"
Bahaha.
Tamazight 01-26-2005, 01:06 PM Here is a lousy theory. Would you box someone of an opposite sex? Probably not. For gays, men are of "opposite" sex, so they do not like to box them.
Being gay doesn't mean they see the others as the opposite sex, but means that they have sexual and loving feelings to people of the same sex.
I don't know if Nong Toom (Parinya Charoenphol)from Thailand is gay, but he was a travestite and now a transseksual. Now "she" is a boxing coach and "she" doesn't enter the ring anymore because it's not allowed for women to box. A movie is made about "her", named Beautiful Boxer (2003) which now will be shown at the International Film Festival Rotterdam . I shall see this one.
Asian Sensation 01-26-2005, 01:11 PM Cassius Green & Emmanuel Steward are gay.
joeboxer 01-26-2005, 03:22 PM I box in San Jose and I know gay people who box here, we are pretty close to San Fransico and I know gay people who box there, the only place I don't know any gay boxers is Oakland. Go Raiders.
this thread is gay itself, hell i dont wana kno the answer to this
Sister Sledge 01-27-2005, 01:36 AM I heard Fernando Vargas was a bisexual. I can believe it with the blonde gay bangs he used to have.
Sister Sledge 01-27-2005, 01:38 AM The Klitchko's may not be gay, but has anyone ever seen those home-erotic pictures they take with each other?
adeelr 01-27-2005, 01:49 AM I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
because they are gay...
marvelous_TG 01-27-2005, 06:08 AM i heard emile griffith was gay.
because they are gay...
course lennox is that why he he lives with his girlfriend Violet Chang and has a 9 month old baby.
:rolleyes:
Asian Sensation 01-27-2005, 03:05 PM i heard emile griffith was gay.
That is true. My old trainer Bob O'Neal knew him well, and told me this.
hollister 01-27-2005, 10:47 PM any more questions?
That ****ing shit is not right! lol
JaNnO 01-27-2005, 10:52 PM That ****ing shit is not right! lol
there's one...the chicken gay! :D
TheRealDunnagan 01-27-2005, 10:58 PM thats some funny shit!!! seriously though, there are alot of gay athletes. and to say that there are no gay boxers is just gay in itself. i mean seriously, just look at all the people here who claim to be boxers.....thats gay. don't try to be something your not.
smart girl.
I remember this one special I saw, it was about this pro football player that was like 6 ft 8, 340 lb, solid rock. He played pro ball for like 8 years before coming out. He said he was scared of coming out because he thought his team and coach would hate him for it. He was like talking about how in the locker rooms he would feel weird and etc. I was waiting for the guy interviewing him to ask him if he looked at his teammates dicks/get turned on by seeing teammates shower(lol), but he never did ask him that. ^^
xzworks 10-02-2005, 12:37 PM thai boxing have gay fighters.but boxing aren't! who's gonna watch a gay boxer fighting a straight or same gay..damn..who's gonna fight them??if youre a boxer do wannna fight a gay?(unless for big bucks).
also it will lose some drive and determination for boxers if the gay boxer is the undisputed p4p champion of the world!!the fall of boxing!!..
666boy666 10-02-2005, 07:48 PM Some of the replies in this thread are so ignorant it is scary.
Joking about a person's sexuality in jest is all well and good, but to actually be so ignorant as to think every gay man wears pink and skips down the street is just pure ignorance
Being a gay man implies in no way shape or form that he is feminine. A college buddy of mine is gay and didn't tell me till just recently, I never knew it. He's a big mofo too, played football together
Let's get one thing very clear here, every single man on this forum has one thing in common, WE ALL LIKE WATCHING SWEATY SHIRTLESS MEN IN STRENUOUS ACTIVITY. As gay as that sounds, it's true, you don't watch boxing for the announcers. Now I'm not saying you want to hump them, but don't sit there and say something's wrong with being gay, or that gay people are different from us when every single one of you look up to SWEATY, MUSCLED, WELL OILED MEN
JONESDESTROYSTARVER 10-02-2005, 09:34 PM You people accepting gays are gay as shit.
btw there are gay boxers now.
maybe you people have never seen pictures of the klitschkos NAKED WITH EACH OTHER.
ALSO CORLEY AND CAMACHO JR, EMILE GRIFFITH IM SURE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHERs BUT THATS ALL I KNOW OF.
alliberg26 10-02-2005, 10:09 PM Most boxers are gay..think about it..
what straight guy would put vaseline all over themselves and fight for a gold belt...
punchers_chance 10-02-2005, 10:14 PM Don't know if anyone said this previously, but Emile Griffith, one of boxings all time greats, was admittedly a homosexual. Nothing wrong with that. :boxing:
punchers_chance 10-02-2005, 10:14 PM You people accepting gays are gay as shit.
btw there are gay boxers now.
maybe you people have never seen pictures of the klitschkos NAKED WITH EACH OTHER.
ALSO CORLEY AND CAMACHO JR, EMILE GRIFFITH IM SURE THERE HAVE BEEN OTHERs BUT THATS ALL I KNOW OF.
Corley isn't gay, he has like 7 kids.
1/30 people are gay. Theres not a lot in the boxing world because when you are gay. You tend to lean on the feminine side. Beating the shit out of the other guy would not attract the gay community. I'd think they'd rather shop than train.
John Ruiz is a homosexual. Why the hell do you think he clinches so much?!? It's cuz the other guy has his shirt off and could not resist to rub his body onto the sweaty muscular physique of his opponents.
James Toney?
!! Anorak 10-04-2005, 10:33 AM Can't believe this silly thread of mine is still getting bumped nearly a year later. Put it out of its misery, someone, quick!
czars_salad 10-04-2005, 10:55 AM juan manuel marquez is gay
xzworks 10-04-2005, 11:00 AM seconded!!!
Rockin' 10-04-2005, 11:13 AM There are now and have been many a fighter that swang the other way. Its just not something that they cared to make public.
Rockin' :boxing:
jabsRstiff 10-04-2005, 11:20 AM An openly gay fighter would have a rough time just in the gym everyday.
Ignorant or not.....his presence would not be tolerated
Rockin' 10-04-2005, 11:28 AM A gay guy doing gay things in the gym would in no way be tolerated, but his presence would not be a problem. I have no problem with gay people and the things that they do. I dont understand it and dont want what they do around me but in their private lives it their business.
To bring public the fact that a fighter is gay, in my opinion, would cause irreversable damage that will follow him through his entire career. It would probably haunt him in his retirement aswell, with the nasty nature of the common person walking this earth.
Its about money, not coming forward with being gay. Because if the public will not pay to see you fight, then you will not.
Rockin' :boxing:
(You would be surprised of some of the fighters in the pas that were actually gay)
GranTorino 10-04-2005, 11:34 AM I've noticed on some other boxing forums out there you could talk about, there's a lot of homophobia used in "smack talk". Even Hasim Rahman wasn't averse to using "gay" as a put-down (I take it you saw his studio bust-up with Lennox, right?)
Thankfully this forum has to be the most intelligent and reasoned boxing forum I've ever come across. Sure, I had a moan about the "leech" thing, but here people really wanna talk - and talk properly - about boxing.
But the question remains... why are there no gay boxers? Or known gay boxers? And if they were, what sort of reception would they get? And just why did Lennox get all those rumours?
Well, for what it's worth, Im bisexual ,and I used to do a little amateur kickboxing when I was younger. As far as whether or not it affected my ability to fight, i.e. take a punch or dish one out, absolutely not. In fact, I work as a bouncer in a sports bar now, and I have no problem tossing people out.
Sexuality is very private. But in regards to sports and what not, it is insignificant as far as Im concerned.
Rockin' 10-04-2005, 11:39 AM Being openly gay in boxing would not affect your ability to fight but it would certainly affect your ability to be paid for fighting.
Rockin' :boxing:
jabsRstiff 10-04-2005, 11:41 AM A gay guy doing gay things in the gym would in no way be tolerated, but his presence would not be a problem. I have no problem with gay people and the things that they do. I dont understand it and dont want what they do around me but in their private lives it their business.
To bring public the fact that a fighter is gay, in my opinion, would cause irreversable damage that will follow him through his entire career. It would probably haunt him in his retirement aswell, with the nasty nature of the common person walking this earth.
Its about money, not coming forward with being gay. Because if the public will not pay to see you fight, then you will not.
Rockin' :boxing:
(You would be surprised of some of the fighters in the pas that were actually gay)
A suspected gay guy would be fine....but one who was open about it.....I think he'd be met with a lot of disdain.
Boxing trainers & fighters are usually the most down-to-earth people. But, it is a macho world, & I wonder how it would be viewed.
Riptor 10-04-2005, 11:47 AM Who cares if they are or not. As long as they can fight and don't tell us about it. Trust me there are some there. I live in the D.C.. area and many a person here have said that Demarcus Corley is bi-sexual. He works at a fire station in the city and many a people in the neighborhood have said that he is a sugar cone. What macho and straight man do you know that would wear a damn pair of half shorts-half dress to the ring, that exposes him the way he does? Besides that I attended one of the larger universities on the east coast and half of the guys on the footbal team were 50/50. They didnt broadcast it but their were definitely rumors and some forms of evidence circulating around many of them.
!! Anorak 10-04-2005, 11:50 AM Well, for what it's worth, Im bisexual ,and I used to do a little amateur kickboxing when I was younger. As far as whether or not it affected my ability to fight, i.e. take a punch or dish one out, absolutely not. In fact, I work as a bouncer in a sports bar now, and I have no problem tossing people out.
Sexuality is very private. But in regards to sports and what not, it is insignificant as far as Im concerned.
That's a very open and honest admission to make on a forum of this nature. I applaud you for it.
GranTorino 10-04-2005, 12:11 PM Being openly gay in boxing would not affect your ability to fight but it would certainly affect your ability to be paid for fighting.
Rockin' :boxing:
Well, at the time, I was fighting in the amateur ranks. We didnt get paid anyway. Funny thing is, I fought for three years and during the whole time, I went undefeated (11-0), and I was in a four year relationship with a man. Go figure.
GranTorino 10-04-2005, 12:16 PM That's a very open and honest admission to make on a forum of this nature. I applaud you for it.
Thank you anorak, have some Karma. But let me make one thing clear. I didnt "come out" to draw attention to myself and my sexuality, but to instead, make a point that I feel needed to be made. That being that most people have a HUGE misconception about gays and their behaviours and lifestyles. Trust me. You can't tell by looking. Im 6'6" and 335lbs. I look like a biker, and no one, and I mean NO ONE, has ever been able to "read me" unless I want them too.
If a fight breaks out, I'll have no problem busting your skull. Cause its not about male/female. Its about honesty and integrity and not lying to yourself.
I dont think every gay person should feel that they MUST come out of the closet to everyone, but to live in denial is the worst thing you could do to yourself. Life is way too ****ing short to give a shit about what a bunch of narrow minded asshats think.
Sorry for the rant. Just my 2 cents.
JONESDESTROYSTARVER 10-04-2005, 12:27 PM The Klitchko's may not be gay, but has anyone ever seen those home-erotic pictures they take with each other?
how is that not gay, they were ****ing naked with each other.
thats the definition of a guy being gay, being naked with another man.
i havent found one person on here yet to say its is straight up wrong to be a ******.
and it is so ill say it, im sure a lot of you fags will go crazy on me for it but **** YOU, your an idiot if you accept ******s.
Rockin' 10-04-2005, 12:29 PM another sorry post from a seemingly even more sorry individual.
Rockin' :boxing:
GranTorino 10-04-2005, 12:30 PM how is that not gay, they were ****ing naked with each other.
thats the definition of a guy being gay, being naked with another man.
i havent found one person on here yet to say its is straight up wrong to be a ******.
and it is so ill say it, im sure a lot of you fags will go crazy on me for it but **** YOU, your an idiot if you accept ******s.
Do the world a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool, you retard. :rolleyes:
JONESDESTROYSTARVER 10-04-2005, 12:40 PM Do the world a favor and remove yourself from the gene pool, you retard. :rolleyes:
oh ok sure ill take advice from an actual cum drinking ******.
Rockin' 10-04-2005, 12:55 PM Ban that man!!!!!!!!!!
Rockin' :boxing:
SnoopySmurf 10-04-2005, 01:09 PM Wasn't there a documentary recently about an old 50's fight? The guy was killed in the ring by the fighter he accused of being gay.
That's what I call Gay Bashing....another person. :p
!! Anorak 10-04-2005, 01:10 PM Ban that man!!!!!!!!!!
Rockin' :boxing:
I don't usually report posts, but I've made an exception for that one. Do you want to do the same, Rockin' ?
GranTorino 10-04-2005, 01:15 PM I don't usually report posts, but I've made an exception for that one. Do you want to do the same, Rockin' ?
I'll report him, too. Just let me know how to do it.
puppy_dogg 10-04-2005, 01:19 PM too late he's already been banned. that was bullshit, he should not have been banned for that post. complete bullshit. we've had 10x worse name calling from posters that are still here today.
Rockin' 10-04-2005, 01:21 PM I dont know how to do that stuff, but the guy has some issues. Rick will see these things when he goes through the posts. I'm sure that he'll take what ever steps are neccesary.
Rockin' :boxing:
Slipx 10-04-2005, 01:23 PM im trying to find a link to that article on that british gay boxer who wore pink trunks and shit. he wasnt a pushover either from what i understood he was undefeated.
Now, we can add producing of gay fighters to europe's worthy additions to society, right next to producing some of the worst comedy known to mankind: thank france too for inventing the beret and building a subterranean city in the path of hurricanes(n.o.) lets not forget how much those cunts love to test nukes in our backyard.
jk but seriously, the first openly gay boxer was really from britian. ill dig up the link.
anorak you must be proud of your people.
heres another gay boxer link i found..http://www.dispatch.co.za/1998/02/25/foreign/GAY.HTM
im trying to find a link to that article on that british gay boxer who wore pink trunks and shit. he wasnt a pushover either from what i understood he was undefeated.
Now, we can add producing of gay fighters to europe's worthy additions to society, thank france too for inventing the beret and building a subterranean city in the path of hurricanes(n.o.) lets not forget how much those cunts love to test nukes in our backyard.
jk but seriously, the first openly gay boxer was really from britian. ill dig up the link.
anorak you must be proud of your people.
heres another gay boxer link i found..http://www.dispatch.co.za/1998/02/25/foreign/GAY.HTM
it s our land as far as i know .
Slipx 10-04-2005, 01:26 PM link found.
this makes britain look bad.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/2736783.stm
SnoopySmurf 10-04-2005, 01:28 PM link found.
this makes britain look bad.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/2736783.stm
It doesn't make Britain look bad. It makes people realize that ANYONE can be ANYTHING they want to be.
Slipx 10-04-2005, 01:28 PM oh and tino is the coolest french person evar, no offense to you or Dude, i think his name is.
Slipx 10-04-2005, 01:30 PM It doesn't make Britain look bad. It makes people realize that ANYONE can be ANYTHING they want to be.
It's the brink of an entire society becoming more feminine.
Proof:
http://www.rense.com/general67/oeo.htm
In 50-100 years, it will become 'customary' for a straight guy to kiss another straight guy in Britain. Watch and see...
jabsRstiff 10-04-2005, 01:33 PM Slip....
Aren't you from N.O., or the N.O. area ?
Got any stories ?
Slipx 10-04-2005, 01:35 PM Slip....
Aren't you from N.O., or the N.O. area ?
Got any stories ?
it's really not like that in most parts of N.O., unlike popular belief ;o
just cuz we have a couple gay pride things in the city, we're branded as a fagtown.
same thing with vancouver in canada.everyone thinks it's a fagtown which it's not, i have spent about 15 months in vancouver and it's anything but that. there are just lots of gay parades and shit but they mostly keep to themselves in their own part of town when it comes to all of that kinda thing..ive never even seen another dude get hit on by a gay person in NO or van so that give you an idea of how much it's all hype about a 'gay area'.
edit: Now lesbians are a whole different story, ive seen plenty of lesbo action. I think it's because lesbos know its kinda sexy when they kiss in public or w/e. 2 gay dudes know theres a good chance some gay basher would be like LOOK AT THOSE FAGGS KISSING.and throw something at them or worse and maybe thats why its less public to see dudes doing it.
jabsRstiff 10-04-2005, 01:42 PM it's really not like that in most parts of N.O., unlike popular belief ;o
just cuz we have a couple gay pride things in the city, we're branded as a fagtown.
same thing with vancouver in canada.everyone thinks it's a fagtown which it's not, i have spent about 15 months in vancouver and it's anything but that. there are just lots of gay parades and shit but they mostly keep to themselves in their own part of town when it comes to all of that kinda thing..ive never even seen another dude get hit on by a gay person in NO or van so that give you an idea of how much it's all hype about a 'gay area'.
edit: Now lesbians are a whole different story, ive seen plenty of lesbo action. I think it's because lesbos know its kinda sexy when they kiss in public or w/e. 2 gay dudes know theres a good chance some gay basher would be like LOOK AT THOSE FAGGS KISSING.and throw something at them or worse and maybe thats why its less public to see dudes doing it.
While I appreciate the info on N.O's gay population.....I meant to ask about how you've been doing down there since last month !
Sorry I wasn't clear.
!! Anorak 10-04-2005, 01:45 PM I dont know how to do that stuff, but the guy has some issues. Rick will see these things when he goes through the posts. I'm sure that he'll take what ever steps are neccesary.
Rockin' :boxing:
This place is getting out of order with the smack and flames. It's okay on occasion, but there's no real chat anymore. If we could just get some people to moderate, even just to let people know what's right or wrong...
paul750 10-04-2005, 02:41 PM It's the brink of an entire society becoming more feminine.
Proof:
http://www.rense.com/general67/oeo.htm
In 50-100 years, it will become 'customary' for a straight guy to kiss another straight guy in Britain. Watch and see...
Don't Italian guys kiss each other and stuff? most of them are pretty tough i'm sure. anyway, the ad was probably just a publicity thing, it's like them saying look at us, we're moving into the 21st century. there's a huge amount of suicides, and unexplained deaths in the british army, they're probably just trying to come across in a better way.
monkeyboy 10-04-2005, 03:18 PM There are very few openly gay men in any popular forum. The few that there are tend to be comedians where gayness is funny therefore 'excusable'. Sports are testosterone led pursuits for armchair fans' to live vicariously through and so homosexuals in sports do not get too far in the old 'making 10million through marketing' game. Truth is that sports are entertainments as much as 'Will and Grace'. What the partakers do in their beds is irrelevant. What the fans think of them is everything.
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