View Full Version : duran vs leonard 3- a sad sight to see


The_One77
05-08-2005, 04:11 PM
I just saw the highlights and i've lost some respect for sugar ray leonard, i felt sorry for duran because he was outclassed and all leonard did was mug to the crowd and beat him to the punch. I saw duran was discouraged and sometimes it almost seemed like he was bullied by leonard because duran just couldn't beat the **** out of him.
Leonard showed signs of their second fight of how he humialted him into the 'no mas' scenario.
I was glad when duran gave him a fat cut in the last round on his eye.
Go DURAN! :boxing:

welshwales
05-11-2005, 05:12 PM
that was possibly the only time I hated on Leonard other than the Hagler fight ;)

kapersky
05-12-2005, 04:42 AM
that was possibly the only time I hated on Leonard other than the Hagler fight ;)

i havent seen that fight, what about it?. i though hagler was much bigger than leonard but in that fight leonard looks little bigger than hagler. some can go up and go down but it had no affect on them like roy jones... lucky the are.

Fistof Fury
05-13-2005, 08:51 AM
I just saw that fight too. Duran just seemed so frustrated. The look on his face said it all.

I have to say though that Leonard did a keep a very good job of keeping him that way.

czars_salad
05-13-2005, 09:03 AM
i havent seen that fight, what about it?. i though hagler was much bigger than leonard but in that fight leonard looks little bigger than hagler. some can go up and go down but it had no affect on them like roy jones... lucky the are.
hagler may have won that fight. leonard would launch a barrage of punches in the first 30 seconds of a round, then hagler outclassed leonard in the middle part of all rounds....up to the last 30 seconds wherein leonard unleash another flurry of punches.

it was like this, leonard won the fight based on impressions. but it was hagler who really fought a real fight

wmute
05-13-2005, 02:05 PM
i havent seen that fight, what about it?. i though hagler was much bigger than leonard but in that fight leonard looks little bigger than hagler. some can go up and go down but it had no affect on them like roy jones... lucky the are.

well the heaviest leonard ever fought was 165 and when he went back down to 154 he lost to terry norris, so he did not fluctuate that much in weight and when he went back down he lost

partee
05-27-2005, 04:52 PM
didn't realize there was a Duran-Leonard III---pray tell what happened

Kimmy
05-29-2005, 10:03 AM
It was one sided. Duran did cut Ray in the 4th round but it really didn`t effect the fight. Leoard danced and won a 12 rd dec. The WBC super middleweight title was on the line ( Duran was the WBC middleweight champ having beaten Iran Barkley ).
Duran i feel was just in it for the pay day i think!

onetwopunch
05-31-2005, 12:05 AM
Duran was at his best at 135, but he is the man..to go up in weight and be a force at middle againts all the great middleweights of his time says alot..

solo1bc
06-04-2005, 04:18 PM
The best way to fight a bully like Duran is to frustrate the hell out of them! Sugar Ray did what he had to do to win and you can't argue with that!

Shaolin Bushido
06-04-2005, 04:43 PM
The best way to fight a bully like Duran is to frustrate the hell out of them! Sugar Ray did what he had to do to win and you can't argue with that!

That's exactly the same thing he did in their second fight and Duran looked just as frustrated the last time. It just seemed worse cause Duran looked like a damn merchant and Ray made him fight like one.

tommyhearns804
06-04-2005, 09:38 PM
actually the one duran wasnt outclassed.he was only down 4 rounds to 2 with one round even on 2 of the cards and 4 round to 3 on the other .i have no idea why duran quit.probably because he knew leonard was a coward who would just run like a scared woman

solo1bc
06-05-2005, 04:16 AM
Deciding not to get hit by Roberto Duran doesn't make you a coward! That makes you ****in clever!

It's called 'Boxing' and not just 'Fighting' for a reason! It's a sport with different ways to win!

shortright
08-03-2005, 11:36 PM
leanord should of fought like a man he was fighting a 38 yr old ex lightweight, there should have been a barkley rematch instead, that would have been much more exciting for the fans, but money talks

Pico Hollywood
08-25-2005, 05:04 AM
Manos de Piedra

Boxclever
08-25-2005, 06:21 AM
Glad that Leonard won, but it wasn't a good fight. :boxing:

raiders67
08-25-2005, 03:24 PM
How can anyone say Leonard disrespected Duran....in their first bout Duran called Leonard's wife a disparaging name and he also mugged for the camera at the end....what goes around comes around....I don't have sympathy for either fighter as both were great but held on too long and that's their choice.

PerfectPunch
08-28-2005, 07:34 PM
duran in his prime would beat leonard in his prime. duran was past his prime in their first fight in montreal and still dominated leonard from first bell to last.in his prime he had amazing stamina,power and good speed.he also had good counterpunching skills,but is best as a banger. he was relentless and used his jab and slipped to get inside, and when he was in he punished his opponents with brutal combinations to the body. yes leonard would have a chance of stayin away from him in the first few rounds, but soon fatigue would be setting in and duran would slow him down and finish him off.duran in his prime could keep a fast pace throughout a fight and this would be telling in the later rounds.

shortright
08-29-2005, 01:27 AM
when duran was prepared to fight and younger then 38 leanord wasnt dancing but if duran is old and out of shape then he dances, what a coward move, leanord robbed the fans of duran barkley 2

DMikeS4321
09-02-2005, 12:25 AM
hagler may have won that fight. leonard would launch a barrage of punches in the first 30 seconds of a round, then hagler outclassed leonard in the middle part of all rounds....up to the last 30 seconds wherein leonard unleash another flurry of punches.

it was like this, leonard won the fight based on impressions. but it was hagler who really fought a real fight

I saw that fight and I was disgusted with it. Hagler plainly won in the opinion of about 80% of the people in attendance. I was never a big Leonard fan (there is only ONE Sugar Ray!), but that fight made me hate him.

Hagler kicked his ass, but I figured going in that the only way he could win was by KO, because Leonard was a crowd favorite and media darling. Bad day for boxing...

Scottie2Hottie
09-02-2005, 04:57 PM
DMike, i was about to say the exact same thing in the exact same words. the media loved leonard, and so did the crowd, and thats the only reason he walked away the winner that day. hagler hung up his gloves that day, and i wouldve too, its sad that a fight can be decided by showboating and working the crowd.

MikeHunt
12-03-2005, 08:23 PM
I just saw the highlights and i've lost some respect for sugar ray leonard, i felt sorry for duran because he was outclassed and all leonard did was mug to the crowd and beat him to the punch. I saw duran was discouraged and sometimes it almost seemed like he was bullied by leonard because duran just couldn't beat the **** out of him.
Leonard showed signs of their second fight of how he humialted him into the 'no mas' scenario.
I was glad when duran gave him a fat cut in the last round on his eye.
Go DURAN! :boxing:


Love Leonard and Duran, but the 3rd fight was just a payday. It sucked!!

KingAbdullah
12-04-2005, 02:00 PM
I just saw the highlights and i've lost some respect for sugar ray leonard, i felt sorry for duran because he was outclassed and all leonard did was mug to the crowd and beat him to the punch. I saw duran was discouraged and sometimes it almost seemed like he was bullied by leonard because duran just couldn't beat the **** out of him.
Leonard showed signs of their second fight of how he humialted him into the 'no mas' scenario.
I was glad when duran gave him a fat cut in the last round on his eye.
Go DURAN! :boxing:

You're lucky that all you saw were the highlights.

It was truly a pititable spectacle for anyone watching it and in more ways than one. It may have bee worse than Hagler-Leonard fight if such a thing is possible so I can relate to everything you said. I can imagine the gleeful looks on the faces of Leonard's fans as they watched leonard embarrass and outclass Duran.

On the bright side, Leonard got his just desserts in his very next fight as the tables were turned and Ray was now in the very same role as Duran. :D

Leonard fans will NEVER get over that one because Ray was supposed to get by Norris without a problem. Norris was a hage underdog and most people didn't even know who he was.I told this one guy after the Hagler fight, Leonard cannot beat a good young black fighter. I didn't even know at the time leonard would continue his career. I just knew that if he ever faced a youthful fighter that had the goods, he would lose and he did.

My point is that if Leonard was really as good as everyone had been saying he was for the entire decade of the 80's, he should have have had no problems with this unknown fighter. At the very least, he should have made it close but he didn't even give Terry a fight. Only the second round was competitive. But leonard seemed to get hurt in just about every round including the first in which he fell into the ropes from a bosy shot. I was surprised that he really couldn't take a punch.

I had first seen this problem back in 79 when he faced slapper Marcos Geraldo who clipped him on the chin three times in the third round and he went spaghetti legs three times. It was like a preview of leonard-Camacho as he kept stumbling back across the ring. It's pretty hard to cover up the fact that you have a glass jaw. This is probably why Ray had to be so selective with his opponents after 1982.

In the Norris fight, the only excuse Ray's supporters can come up with is "Ray got old-he was shot". But look athis last fight with Duran. He looked perfectly fine and won all 12 rounds.

Do shot fighters run around the ring no stop for 12 rounds? This is something his fans never could answer. They don't know how . They just keep repeatting themselves. Saying "He got old" and hoping others will somehow believe them.

fabulous
12-07-2005, 06:20 PM
duran in his prime would beat leonard in his prime. duran was past his prime in their first fight in montreal and still dominated leonard from first bell to last.in his prime he had amazing stamina,power and good speed.he also had good counterpunching skills,but is best as a banger. he was relentless and used his jab and slipped to get inside, and when he was in he punished his opponents with brutal combinations to the body. yes leonard would have a chance of stayin away from him in the first few rounds, but soon fatigue would be setting in and duran would slow him down and finish him off.duran in his prime could keep a fast pace throughout a fight and this would be telling in the later rounds.


Duran absolute best fight above lightweight was in Montreal, it was also his biggest win. Don't give this bull**** about prime Duran, he was 29 years old, in his best fight and all he got was close decision when Leonard fought his fight. And it was Duran who was tired in late rounds and Leonard took them. Duran fought regularly above lightweight for years but he didn't fight anybody Leonard, Hearns level in lightweight, Buchanan and De Jesus isn't. If you say that mythical p4p matchup, lightweight duran vs welterweight Leonard then I can take your arguments seriously.
Anyway, I say Hearns still KO-s prime welterweight Duran(who fought in Montreal) with couple of rounds, Leonard outboxes him, Benitez, well this is tough call. I think Duran can rock him but if he doesn't knock him out Benitez wins comfortable decision.
It's about styles, not about who looked better in their weight class. Hagler was monster like Duran in his weight but watch his fight with Duran and Leonard and you see different picture.

sweeetscience
01-04-2006, 06:00 PM
The best way to fight a bully like Duran is to frustrate the hell out of them! Sugar Ray did what he had to do to win and you can't argue with that!

Roberto Duran is in my very humble opinion is one of the greatest fighters that has walked this earth and was robbed by Hector(love to hate him) Camacho in his last comeback fight.

LondonRingRules
01-04-2006, 08:58 PM
Duran was a macho pig and deserved it, just like Ray was a egotistical manipulator and deserved to be layed out by Macho Camacho. We feel bad for losses by Foreman or Hagler, real men, not jerked up Ray or jacked off Roberto being humiliated.