View Full Version : Immediate Rematch for Corrales vs Castillo might be ordered!!!


.::|ULTIMATE|::.
05-08-2005, 03:02 PM
Post fight - box-latino

Castillo lost by Technical knockout in the 10th round against Corrales in a Unification bout for the wbc-wbo belts.

"The Ref gave more than enough time to Corrales during both falls and he let him recuperate, but when he connected me i was hurt but not bad enough to stop the fight," Commented Castillo who was accompanied by his work team and the promotors Bob Arum and Fernando Beltran.

Before a big group of reporters Castillo showed his face with the markings of the great battle he had just been in.

"Without a doubt they are fighters-tricks but the ref gave Corrales about 15 seconds after every fall to replace the mouthpiece." Remember Castillo althought he added, "thats how boxing is, but im sad at the result"

Asked about a rematch, he smilingly said he would be ready for this sunday, causing smiles from the media that recognized the effort of the Mexican fighter.

At the conference it was informed the possibilty that the WBC would order an immidiate rematch. In case that Corrales doesnt accept, then he will stripped of the title so Castillo can fight for the vacant against the highest ranked contender.

Corrales couldnt walk,

For his part, Diego Corrales expressed that his opponent is a warrior of the ring "But i did what i had to do and thats how it went" Corrales left the post-fight press room helped by people of his team because he could hardly walk as a consequence of the punches that he received throughout the fight.

SalvaDominicano
05-08-2005, 03:05 PM
damn.. he couldnt walk?? i hope he didnt leave it all in the ring and now a shell of what he used to be.

jack_the_rippuh
05-08-2005, 03:08 PM
Serious sport..

mic573
05-08-2005, 03:10 PM
damn.. he couldnt walk?? i hope he didnt leave it all in the ring and now a shell of what he used to be.

Damn that would be ****ed up if that turned out to be the case.

{BrownBomber}
05-08-2005, 03:17 PM
when i saw that corrales was taking all the shots from castillo I knew that would land him in the hospital. I would not be surprised if corrales is never the same fighter again,Castillo more than deserves the imediate rematch.Corales won but it left the biggest impresion on him and will be scared second time around to trade that much with Castillo.
I also wouldnt be surprised if Castillo isnt the same.

Seems there is always a Mexican involved in fight of the year.

joe kurtz
05-08-2005, 03:20 PM
Oh, I don't think either man will ever be the same after that one. How can they be, they're only human?

If nothing else, last night's war took a couple-few years off of what remained of their careers.

joe kurtz
05-08-2005, 03:25 PM
Noone would like to see a rematch more than I, but I hope those greedy ass promoters don't try to get either man back into the ring anytime soon.
What they both need is a good long rest. I would allow either man back in the ring ( especially against one another! ) for a good six months.

Brz_Pugilist
05-08-2005, 03:32 PM
I wanna see it again, WBC president Jose Suliaman sure like stripping people of their belts, geez!

Zab Super Judah
05-08-2005, 03:33 PM
thats inhumane if they dont give them time...cant be treated these guys as animals

IwatchBoxing
05-08-2005, 03:37 PM
Corrales wasnt even mentioned for fight of the year last time when his last fight with Casamayor/Freitas both deserved it, now hes getting all this praise, and their trying to hook him for a rematch all ready, why? Castillo...not even fighter of the year, Glen Johnson got it...

Brz_Pugilist
05-08-2005, 03:43 PM
Castillo makes exciting fights, the guy is mr excitement.I wanna see the rematch in september or October.

{BrownBomber}
05-08-2005, 03:48 PM
Corrales wasnt even mentioned for fight of the year last time when his last fight with Casamayor/Freitas both deserved it, now hes getting all this praise, and their trying to hook him for a rematch all ready, why? Castillo...not even fighter of the year, Glen Johnson got it...
your the biggest ****en hater!!!!!!
What the **** are you jealous about?
oh are you mad cause your not Mexican.
First off this fight was 100 times better than the ones you mentioned.
Glen Johnson wasnt fighter of the year either. They just gave it to him cause he finished ko ing a guy that was still ko ed from the previous fight.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
05-08-2005, 03:55 PM
your the biggest ****en hater!!!!!!
What the **** are you jealous about?
oh are you mad cause your not Mexican.
First off this fight was 100 times better than the ones you mentioned.
Glen Johnson wasnt fighter of the year either. They just gave it to him cause he finished ko ing a guy that was still ko ed from the previous fight.

HAHA some things never change huh. Its alright we just gotta figure out how to use the ignore button on these people that dont know about boxing and really dont want to learn about it like iwatchboxing.

The Pretender
05-08-2005, 04:06 PM
This was a fight of bums. One guy crying about the other guy's corner milking the clock and the other guy crying about the beating he took in the ring. Well who's fault is that! They both need to be tossed back in the ring tonight just to resolve who is the most manly of the two. Somebody lend them a shoulder to weep on.

RwK
05-08-2005, 04:07 PM
both deserved it, now hes getting all this praise, ...

He just beat the most serious opponent he has ever faced. He also overcame serious adversity in doing so. That is why he is getting this kind of praise. Casamayor and Freitas are not 1/10th the fighter JLC is.

The Pretender
05-08-2005, 04:11 PM
None of those hispanic fighters are 1/4 of Ruiz, the first latino HW champion ever. So ease up on the nutsack riding.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
05-08-2005, 04:13 PM
None of those hispanic fighters are 1/4 of Ruiz, the first latino HW champion ever. So ease up on the nutsack riding.

Of course not!!! they dont hug even 1/4 of the times Ruiz does they fight thats what they do, talk about easing up on the nutsack riding.

Brz_Pugilist
05-08-2005, 04:15 PM
And they dont lose to a Betty Crocker in the ring :D

The Pretender
05-08-2005, 04:20 PM
Of course not!!! they dont hug even 1/4 of the times Ruiz does they fight thats what they do, talk about easing up on the nutsack riding.

Just admit Ruiz would kick Corrales ass in a fight anyday. Ruiz should move down to lightweight to prove this. Or Corrales move up to heavyweight like a man!

{BrownBomber}
05-08-2005, 04:21 PM
Of course not!!! they dont hug even 1/4 of the times Ruiz does they fight thats what they do, talk about easing up on the nutsack riding.
hey guey esta vato nomas lo hace por broma.
al principio si me saco de onda pero lo hace nomas por vasilar.
me da un chingo de risa lo que escribe.lol

The Pretender
05-08-2005, 04:26 PM
At least speak spanglish if you're going to use an american forum.

realheavyhands
05-08-2005, 04:33 PM
castillo will loose worse in a rematch...chico beat him the hard way next time he gone fight his fight more..chico hits harder and can box..but how bout that chin on castillo

Brz_Pugilist
05-08-2005, 04:41 PM
This fight was in no way dominating for Chico.He is lucky he pulled that little stunt that gave him some breathers.Again, i take no credit away from him but to say that this time it will be a blowout is a complete joke!

IwatchBoxing
05-08-2005, 04:46 PM
This fight was in no way dominating for Chico.He is lucky he pulled that little stunt that gave him some breathers.Again, i take no credit away from him but to say that this time it will be a blowout is a complete joke!
The Casamayor fight was a blowout, and Corrales is capable of boxing, he seemed to get infront of Castillo for making a good brawl, but on the outside he would beat him fairly easy compared to last nights fight.

Brz_Pugilist
05-08-2005, 04:50 PM
HeyIwatch, tell that to chico, the guy likes to brawl.He took some tremendous shots from Castillo.

Tha Greatest
05-08-2005, 04:55 PM
Look at Chicos eye, it says it all....

{BrownBomber}
05-08-2005, 05:19 PM
What you guys dont realize is that Chico is hurting 10 times more than Castillo.Castillo wants the rematch today!Corrales is being helped around.I dont think Corrales wants another war with Castillo,he was ready to quit in the middle rounds and a fighter that takes his mouth piece out with his gloves on, means to atleast that he quit the fight. It should have been stopped. I think Joe Goosen did a great job with Corrales,that is the main reason he won.

Zab Super Judah
05-08-2005, 05:20 PM
What you guys dont realize is that Chico is hurting 10 times more than Castillo.Castillo wants the rematch today!Corrales is being helped around.I dont think Corrales wants another war with Castillo,he was ready to quit in the middle rounds and a fighter that takes his mouth piece out with his gloves on, means to atleast that he quit the fight. It should have been stopped. I think Joe Goosen did a great job with Corrales,that is the main reason he won.


agreed castillo wants the rematch and corrales doesnt seem to want to..watch his body language and what he says..he does not want a rematch...castillo really broke his body down

{BrownBomber}
05-08-2005, 05:28 PM
agreed castillo wants the rematch and corrales doesnt seem to want to..watch his body language and what he says..he does not want a rematch...castillo really broke his body down
im gonna be realy mad if Corrales bust a ghost on Castillo but then again money talks. Mark my words this is the aftermath of chavez-taylor all over again. Corrales will never! ever!... be the same....again.

IwatchBoxing
05-08-2005, 05:36 PM
im gonna be realy mad if Corrales bust a ghost on Castillo but then again money talks. Mark my words this is the aftermath of chavez-taylor all over again. Corrales will never! ever!... be the same....again.
Chavez vs. Taylor was a tragic fight, nothing to gloat about not to mention the wrong guy won, but if anything Castillo looks not to be the same cause Corrales was walking around doing his thing as ussual, while Castillo barly talked and left the ring, this is not Corrales first war, hes been up beaten up plenty of times.

vB Martin
05-08-2005, 05:36 PM
These guys both need some time off to recover and rehabilitate. A rematch is inevitable, but I wouldn't want it to come too soon. Just before the end of the year will be good enough for me.

{BrownBomber}
05-08-2005, 05:53 PM
Chavez vs. Taylor was a tragic fight, nothing to gloat about not to mention the wrong guy won, but if anything Castillo looks not to be the same cause Corrales was walking around doing his thing as ussual, while Castillo barly talked and left the ring, this is not Corrales first war, hes been up beaten up plenty of times.

Your right he will get beaten to a pulp again in the rematch.

Zab Super Judah
05-08-2005, 06:08 PM
i wish shotime had compubox numbers like hbo so we could see how many power shot connects there were

vB Martin
05-08-2005, 06:15 PM
i wish shotime had compubox numbers like hbo so we could see how many power shot connects there were
Compubox tends to be very inaccurate. I've counted along before and seen them as much as 40% off.

The Pretender
05-08-2005, 06:22 PM
Your right he will get beaten to a pulp again in the rematch.

How come latin fighters never do well in the HW division? Ruiz is the first and last champ for you ever.

Boxingfan81
05-08-2005, 07:24 PM
Compubox tends to be very inaccurate. I've counted along before and seen them as much as 40% off.
How do you know your the one not scoring right?

Shaolin Bushido
05-08-2005, 07:27 PM
How do you know your the one not scoring right?


Despite eveyone's objections I don't feel a rematch should be mandated. "If" is always an issue in boxing and I think this will just mar an otherwise fair fight and result that should be a classic.

Those guys can get together and do it again when they have the opportunity. I don't think either will avoid facintg the other again.

Anghell
05-08-2005, 08:58 PM
I don't wanna see a rematch. what ever happens in the rematch will be a disappoinment compared to the first fight. I also think that both of these fighters will never be the same again.

vB Martin
05-08-2005, 09:28 PM
How do you know your the one not scoring right?
Because I can count all the way to 20 if I take my shoes off...

RipTheJacker
05-09-2005, 02:23 PM
They will be better after a yr or 2. Look at the 2 more famous Mexicans. Knowledge,Wisdom, and Understanding takes skill to that next level and time will heal their wounds. Now, w/o a doubt Corrales was the rightful winner. Castillio was out. Reminded me of Kostya's only loss. Corrales, If u look at his career, just about everytime he goes down he goes down akward. He hurt Castillio all thru the fight and himself was only hurt a couple times. I still believe he will get stronger as he goes up in weight. In a rematch, Corrales ko's Castillio early.

5000

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:27 PM
when i saw that corrales was taking all the shots from castillo I knew that would land him in the hospital. I would not be surprised if corrales is never the same fighter again,Castillo more than deserves the imediate rematch.Corales won but it left the biggest impresion on him and will be scared second time around to trade that much with Castillo.
I also wouldnt be surprised if Castillo isnt the same.

Seems there is always a Mexican involved in fight of the year.

See, I dont consider Corrales the winner..Castillo clearly won that fight in the 10th...PERIOD. Tony Weeks should have his liscens taken for handing Corrales such a blantant victory..made me sick! Pretty chicken **** of Corrales to keep spitting (and pulling) out that mouth piece just to gain time to get his bearings back too. Crap like that is what gives the sport a bad name.

Brz_Pugilist
05-09-2005, 02:31 PM
Castillo could have spitted out his mouthpiece during that time, which would have been hilarious but he went down like a warrior!Again props to Corrales for coming back, but dropping that mouthpiece twice and buying time helped him alot.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:32 PM
agreed castillo wants the rematch and corrales doesnt seem to want to..watch his body language and what he says..he does not want a rematch...castillo really broke his body down


Of course he doesnt want one, and he wont give JLC one either..probably even if it means losing his belt. He knows he lost that fight, and that a rematch means most likely a different ref...one that will stop the fight when he PULLS out him mouthpiece..signaling that he's done.

SnoopySmurf
05-09-2005, 02:32 PM
See, I dont consider Corrales the winner..Castillo clearly won that fight in the 10th...PERIOD. Tony Weeks should have his liscens taken for handing Corrales such a blantant victory..made me sick! Pretty chicken **** of Corrales to keep spitting (and pulling) out that mouth piece just to gain time to get his bearings back too. Crap like that is what gives the sport a bad name.

Shirley, you must be mistaken. This fight elevated boxing even higher. As stated many many times already, Castillo was out cold on his feet, hands down, mouth open, eyes rolled up with the ropes holding him up for more bombs. Weeks swooped in to save him.

jabsRstiff
05-09-2005, 02:34 PM
See, I dont consider Corrales the winner..Castillo clearly won that fight in the 10th...PERIOD. Tony Weeks should have his liscens taken for handing Corrales such a blantant victory..made me sick! Pretty chicken **** of Corrales to keep spitting (and pulling) out that mouth piece just to gain time to get his bearings back too. Crap like that is what gives the sport a bad name.

You are completely wrong with this post !

"Chicken ****" ? The dude didn't quit ! He bought some time so he could keep fighting, knowing his punching power could be his savior.

You're just bitter.....& I really think some of the Mexican posters on here (I know you're not Mexican, Tracy) are reacting poorly.

The Troll
05-09-2005, 02:35 PM
This is not true the WBC does not have the power to order immediate rematches of fighters promoted by TopRank or any of the big promoters they can only boss around guys without backing alot from big promoters. The WBC are just trying to make themselves look goood. If it were true that they ordered an immediate rematch I would be happy as a boxing fan, but it really would not be fair. They also might want a rematch because the a Castillo vs Corrales rematch would make alot of money and the more money the WBC champion makes the bigger cut the WBC gets, so the WBC and all sanctioning bodies always want guys that sell to have their belts.

marvdave
05-09-2005, 02:35 PM
Shirley, you must be mistaken. This fight elevated boxing even higher. As stated many many times already, Castillo was out cold on his feet, hands down, mouth open, eyes rolled up with the ropes holding him up for more bombs. Weeks swooped in to save him.


I think there is a joke from the movie Airplane in there somewhere :D

SnoopySmurf
05-09-2005, 02:36 PM
I think there is a joke from the movie Airplane in there somewhere :D

BWAH! I and keep getting red karmas for these little jokes! :D

jabsRstiff
05-09-2005, 02:37 PM
tracy.....

Do you remember Corrales-Casamyor I ?

Chico's mouth was mutilated.....yet he wanted one more round.
Why....because the dude is a warrior who believes he is one shot away from turning the fight.

Calling this awesomely brave fighter "chicken ****" is f*ckin' sad !

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:38 PM
Shirley, you must be mistaken. This fight elevated boxing even higher. As stated many many times already, Castillo was out cold on his feet, hands down, mouth open, eyes rolled up with the ropes holding him up for more bombs. Weeks swooped in to save him.

It should have never reached that point. When Corrales spit it out to buy time, that was one thing. When he then PULLED it out to buy more time, he quit. Everybody knows that when a fighter pulls his own mouthpiece out in the middle of a fight that he's done, over. If Weeks had done his job and stopped it then, Castillo would have been the rightful winner and we all know it. But I guess I cant blame the wife beater..he was getting his ass handed to him after all, and after what, a possible 10-5 rd., he had to do something to make sure he won, so pull that piece out long enough to gather the scattered brains since 10 sec's alone clearly wasnt enough!

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:40 PM
You are completely wrong with this post !

"Chicken ****" ? The dude didn't quit ! He bought some time so he could keep fighting, knowing his punching power could be his savior.

You're just bitter.....& I really think some of the Mexican posters on here (I know you're not Mexican, Tracy) are reacting poorly.

NOt reacting poorly..just calling an injustice an injustice. Nothing more or less than that really.

SnoopySmurf
05-09-2005, 02:40 PM
It should have never reached that point. When Corrales spit it out to buy time, that was one thing. When he then PULLED it out to buy more time, he quit. Everybody knows that when a fighter pulls his own mouthpiece out in the middle of a fight that he's done, over. If Weeks had done his job and stopped it then, Castillo would have been the rightful winner and we all know it. But I guess I cant blame the wife beater..he was getting his ass handed to him after all, and after what, a possible 10-5 rd., he had to do something to make sure he won, so pull that piece out long enough to gather the scattered brains since 10 sec's alone clearly wasnt enough!

He played his part within the rules. And he used it to his advantage. Not everyone likes the strategy but Chico still had to get up and KO Castillo, despite the fact Castillo also had plenty of time to recuperate.

{BrownBomber}
05-09-2005, 02:40 PM
See, I dont consider Corrales the winner..Castillo clearly won that fight in the 10th...PERIOD. Tony Weeks should have his liscens taken for handing Corrales such a blantant victory..made me sick! Pretty chicken **** of Corrales to keep spitting (and pulling) out that mouth piece just to gain time to get his bearings back too. Crap like that is what gives the sport a bad name.
This is what I got after watching the fight 3 times.

The ref was not paying att. to Corrales's body language the first kd he threw his mouth piece out to buy more time and lets include the 15 seconds he got to get up off the canvas.Slow counts in boxing is nothing new so lets put that to the side.
The second kd comes and imediatly Corrales grabs his mouth piece and throws in on the floor like saying I quit! Any other ref stops this fight right then and there. If you pay att. to his body language Corrales cant take this any longer he is looking at the corner and said I cant, Joe was yelling for him to get up. He did got about 40 seconds to recover and Joe tells him something like Now you got to get out there and ........ dont remember right but that gave Corrales the last piece of strength he had to give it his all. It was a massive display of heart and balls by Corrales and guess what it payed off! Castillo is thinking this **** is in the bag and boom it was over!!! What a ****ing come back! That split second that ref had to decide if to stop the fight or give this guy the chances the other got and give him a standing 8 and he stops it. This fight will go down for the ages thats for sure. My favorite fighter lost but Im not bitter cause he gave a hell of a show. This fight landed both guys in the hospital, only that Castillo was ready to fight the rematch on Sunday and Corrales was being helped around cause the guy couldnt even walk on his own. That gives me impresion that Corrales and his peeps wont want to take rematch but the good thing is that money talks and he will have to take it.

I still would take my boy Castillo in the rematch and mark my words he will avenge this loss in brutal fashion.

Brz_Pugilist
05-09-2005, 02:42 PM
I remember people critizing Freitas for being an *******,for spitting out his mouthpiece, well same goes for Corrales.Its smart on his part, but now i can kill him for doing it, twice.Again, props to Corrales, i hope he gives Castillo a rematch.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:43 PM
This is what I got after watching the fight 3 times.

The ref was not paying att. to Corrales's body language the first kd he threw his mouth piece out to buy more time and lets include the 15 seconds he got to get up off the canvas.Slow counts in boxing is nothing new so lets put that to the side.
The second kd comes and imediatly Corrales grabs his mouth piece and throws in on the floor like saying I quit! Any other ref stops this fight right then and there. If you pay att. to his body language Corrales cant take this any longer he is looking at the corner and said I cant, Joe was yelling for him to get up. He did got about 40 seconds to recover and Joe tells him something like Now you got to get out there and ........ dont remember right but that gave Corrales the last piece of strength he had to give it his all. It was a massive display of heart and balls by Corrales and guess what it payed off! Castillo is thinking this **** is in the bag and boom it was over!!! What a ****ing come back! That split second that ref had to decide if to stop the fight or give this guy the chances the other got and give him a standing 8 and he stops it. This fight will go down for the ages thats for sure. My favorite fighter lost but Im not bitter cause he gave a hell of a show. This fight landed both guys in the hospital, only that Castillo was ready to fight the rematch on Sunday and Corrales was being helped around cause the guy couldnt even walk on his own. That gives me impresion that Corrales and his peeps wont want to take rematch but the good thing is that money talks and he will have to take it.

I still would take my boy Castillo in the rematch and mark my words he will avenge this loss in brutal fashion.

Exactly, any other ref. stops it when Chico pulls out his piece, giving the signal that he's done

{BrownBomber}
05-09-2005, 02:44 PM
He played his part within the rules. And he used it to his advantage. Not everyone likes the strategy but Chico still had to get up and KO Castillo, despite the fact Castillo also had plenty of time to recuperate.
recuperate from what knocking Corrales around the ring?

Bombardier
05-09-2005, 02:44 PM
I think the bigger question should be why did Castillo stand there and leave himself open for Corrales to get so many shots in after the knockdowns? There was one point where Corrales was near the ropes and I swear it looked like Castillo was just begging to be hit. He looked like he was turned right towards him and didn't have his gloves up near his face and left himself so wide open. I mean, guy, you got a 10-6 round coming your way, why risk it by being foolish?

marvdave
05-09-2005, 02:45 PM
I remember people critizing Freitas for being an *******,for spitting out his mouthpiece, well same goes for Corrales.Its smart on his part, but now i can kill him for doing it, twice.Again, props to Corrales, i hope he gives Castillo a rematch.

difference is that Corrales came back and won. He didn't quit. Corrales did the smart thing. The ref took a point away as he should have and Corrales came back to win. I don't see any controversy here. I was rooting for Castillo by the way. Castillo couldn't continue.

The Troll
05-09-2005, 02:45 PM
I think the bigger question should be why did Castillo stand there and leave himself open for Corrales to get so many shots in after the knockdowns? There was one point where Corrales was near the ropes and I swear it looked like Castillo was just begging to be hit. He looked like he was turned right towards him and didn't have his gloves up near his face and left himself so wide open. I mean, guy, you got a 10-6 round coming your way, why risk it by being foolish?

Because he was stunned and out of it. That is sign of when a guy is stunned and out of it when he drops his hands stops protecting himself. Boxing basics

He got overly agressive in trying to finish Corrales and its a known fact that fighters are dangerous when they are hurt and Castillo did not excerise the proper caution in his attempt to finish Corrales that is why he lost, its part of the game.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:48 PM
I think the bigger question should be why did Castillo stand there and leave himself open for Corrales to get so many shots in after the knockdowns? There was one point where Corrales was near the ropes and I swear it looked like Castillo was just begging to be hit. He looked like he was turned right towards him and didn't have his gloves up near his face and left himself so wide open. I mean, guy, you got a 10-6 round coming your way, why risk it by being foolish?

Thats a good point too, but I'll be honest here...Jabs is right, I am bitter, as hell! After watching the ref (what looked like 'babying' Corrales) give Chico the time to recover after pulling out his piece I was seeing red anyway. I couldnt believe he let the fight continue. I kept thinking "whats he gotta do? walk up to you and say I QUIT?"!!!!!

SnoopySmurf
05-09-2005, 02:48 PM
recuperate from what knocking Corrales around the ring?

From the previous round. Both were pretty hurt by the tenth.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:49 PM
difference is that Corrales came back and won. He didn't quit. Corrales did the smart thing. The ref took a point away as he should have and Corrales came back to win. I don't see any controversy here. I was rooting for Castillo by the way. Castillo couldn't continue.

LOl, would you say that if it had been Hagler? :p

The Troll
05-09-2005, 02:51 PM
From the previous round. Both were pretty hurt by the tenth.


Castillo got overly agressive against a dangerious figher, he got caught and he got TKO'd there is nothing more to it. Castillo wont make the mistake again. So that is the response to the thread will Castillo come back a better fighter. yes he wont get overagressive trying to finish off dangerous fighters anymore.

Brz_Pugilist
05-09-2005, 02:52 PM
A rematch should be in order, too decide once and for all, who is better, and if Castillo wins, then who knows maybe a third fight.I think Castillo wants to do it again, but i sense that Corrales wants to turn the corner.

SnoopySmurf
05-09-2005, 02:52 PM
Castillo got overly agressive against a dangerious figher, he got caught and he got TKO'd there is nothing more to it. Castillo wont make the mistake again. So that is the response to the thread will Castillo come back a better fighter. yes he wont get overagressive trying to finish off dangerous fighters anymore.

I haven't downloaded the fight yet but I have to see how the previous round played out. I thought Chico caught Castillo with a left hook at the closing of the 9th. But he did that on a few other rounds too so I might be confusing the rounds.

marvdave
05-09-2005, 02:52 PM
LOl, would you say that if it had been Hagler? :p

would have never happened to the great Marvin Hagler ;)

Bombardier
05-09-2005, 02:53 PM
Thats a good point too, but I'll be honest here...Jabs is right, I am bitter, as hell! After watching the ref (what looked like 'babying' Corrales) give Chico the time to recover after pulling out his piece I was seeing red anyway. I couldnt believe he let the fight continue. I kept thinking "whats he gotta do? walk up to you and say I QUIT?"!!!!!

Well hey, at least we were spared the sight of seeing a whimpering Corrales complain that the fight was ended too early, like in the Mayweather and Casamyor I fights. Both displays were a little embarassing.

Did Weeks see Corrales pull his mouthpiece out or did the only see it when it was lying on the canvas? Maybe it's too hard to tell.

This is one of those things that will be debated about by boxing fans forever, like Dempsey's doctored gloves against Willard, the Phantom Punch, and the long count for Buster vs Tyson. Probably there will never be a resolution.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:54 PM
would have never happened to the great Marvin Hagler ;)

Lol, you ASS, thats not an answer!!! :D (great evasion tatic though)

tracylee
05-09-2005, 02:55 PM
Well hey, at least we were spared the sight of seeing a whimpering Corrales complain that the fight was ended too early, like in the Mayweather and Casamyor I fights. Both displays were a little embarassing.

Did Weeks see Corrales pull his mouthpiece out or did the only see it when it was lying on the canvas? Maybe it's too hard to tell.

This is one of those things that will be debated about by boxing fans forever, like Dempsey's doctored gloves against Willard, the Phantom Punch, and the long count for Buster vs Tyson. Probably there will never be a resolution.

Some of us prefer the 'embarassing display' of Corrales much more than Castillo walking off feeling cheated. Man, that was just terrible. I feel so bad for him.

jabsRstiff
05-09-2005, 03:02 PM
Brooklyn B. & TracyLee....


Corrales was looking to buy time......he wasn't looking to quit !
Mofo WANTED TO WIN....not be saved from further punishment.

Castillo should have been more defensive-minded....Did he forget the end of the 7th when he walked into a Corrales hook & was almost dropped ?


Listen......this was about the best fight I've ever seen.....& I've seen tons.
I won't criticize either guy.....they may have ruined themselves in an effort to win this fight.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 03:11 PM
Brooklyn B. & TracyLee....


Corrales was looking to buy time......he wasn't looking to quit !
Mofo WANTED TO WIN....not be saved from further punishment.

Castillo should have been more defensive-minded....Did he forget the end of the 7th when he walked into a Corrales hook & was almost dropped ?


Listen......this was about the best fight I've ever seen.....& I've seen tons.
I won't criticize either guy.....they may have ruined themselves in an effort to win this fight.

I dont know man..even some of the people that have no problem with the way it ended said that he kept looking at dan for help, etc. Didnt want to quit..maybe not in his heart he didnt, but his body? He showed several signs all thru the championship rd's that looked like he wanted out of there. Pulling out his piece was just the icing on the cake in my opinion. Smart or not, it was up to Weeks to see that signal for what it was and act accordingly. Too bad Steele didnt do that fight instead of the Marquez fight..he's famous for stopping fights, etc.

Knicksman20
05-09-2005, 03:25 PM
All of you bitter Castillo fans need to chill out. When Freitas spit out his mouthpiece in his fight with Chico nobody was screaming bloody murder for him to be DQ'ed. Now that it's your Castillo fans favorite fighter in the ring & Chico should've been DQ'ed? Shame on all of you for not enjoying probably the best fight in 20 years. All of you are mad because Chico beat this guy at his own game, in-fighting. Chico could've finished him earlier if he would've stayed behind the jab but he didn't. He gave all of us fans what we wanted; a blood & guts war with alot of drama. If weeks hadn't stepped in to stop the fight, we could've seen another Emile Grifith & Benny Paret & how messed up would that have been? The guy couldn't protect himself anymore & he wasn't going down.

{BrownBomber}
05-09-2005, 03:32 PM
I dont know man..even some of the people that have no problem with the way it ended said that he kept looking at dan for help, etc. Didnt want to quit..maybe not in his heart he didnt, but his body? He showed several signs all thru the championship rd's that looked like he wanted out of there. Pulling out his piece was just the icing on the cake in my opinion. Smart or not, it was up to Weeks to see that signal for what it was and act accordingly. Too bad Steele didnt do that fight instead of the Marquez fight..he's famous for stopping fights, etc.
Take a look at the second kd he is clearly lookig at Joe in the corner and says I cant.He got up way after the ten count and got 30 more seconds to recover. I dont want to take anything away from the fight but Castillo feels cheated and has every right. This calls for an imediate rematch, Corrales has all my respect for even going ten rounds with a warrior but will lose it if he turns down a rematch.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 03:33 PM
All of you bitter Castillo fans need to chill out. When Freitas spit out his mouthpiece in his fight with Chico nobody was screaming bloody murder for him to be DQ'ed. Now that it's your Castillo fans favorite fighter in the ring & Chico should've been DQ'ed? Shame on all of you for not enjoying probably the best fight in 20 years. All of you are mad because Chico beat this guy at his own game, in-fighting. Chico could've finished him earlier if he would've stayed behind the jab but he didn't. He gave all of us fans what we wanted; a blood & guts war with alot of drama. If weeks hadn't stepped in to stop the fight, we could've seen another Emile Grifith & Benny Paret & how messed up would that have been? The guy couldn't protect himself anymore & he wasn't going down.

Hey, this is a forum, and this is what we do, so nobody needs to chill out. You must not have been around after that particular Freitas fight cause lots of people raised hell.
CHico could have, would have, blah, blah, blah. The same goes for Castillo...if Tony Weeks hadnt given him time to clean off a mouthpiece that never touched the canvas cause it was still in his hand then he wouldnt have finished the 10th at all. Alot of could have and should have's...dont change any of it

tracylee
05-09-2005, 03:36 PM
Take a look at the second kd he is clearly lookig at Joe in the corner and says I cant.He got up way after the ten count and got 30 more seconds to recover. I dont want to take anything away from the fight but Castillo feels cheated and has every right. This calls for an imediate rematch, Corrales has all my respect for even going ten rounds with a warrior but will lose it if he turns down a rematch.

Hey, I give Chico all due credit for traping Jose on the ropes and getting it done but in my eyes he did not win. That fight should have been over when he pulled out his piece the second time. And I havent even started (and wont) on all the fouling that he got away with all during the fight either!
I'm in total agreement with you on this BB

Konstantin
05-09-2005, 03:36 PM
I think the bigger question was how did Castillo not finish of Chico after knocking him down twice? Theres definatly something wrong with that.

Konstantin
05-09-2005, 03:37 PM
Dont get you started on all the fouling Chico did!? Jose is probably the most well known fouler in the sport. Did you see the Diaz fight?

SnoopySmurf
05-09-2005, 03:38 PM
I think the bigger question was how did Castillo not finish of Chico after knocking him down twice? Theres definatly something wrong with that.

And he had nearly a minute to rest while Chico had to shake off the cobwebs.

Dio2
05-09-2005, 03:41 PM
Hey, I give Chico all due credit for traping Jose on the ropes and getting it done but in my eyes he did not win. That fight should have been over when he pulled out his piece the second time. And I havent even started (and wont) on all the fouling that he got away with all during the fight either!
I'm in total agreement with you on this BB

There is no way that fight should have been over when he spit out his mouthpiece. Boxing is notorius for letting people commit fouls for too long. If he stopped the fight because he spit out his mouthpiece then he would have broken the precedent and cheated Chico. I've seen fights when they didn't penalize the fighter for spitting out his mouthpiece the third time it happened.

Konstantin
05-09-2005, 03:41 PM
And he didnt get up after the 10 count. He got up at nine. Seems like your making **** up. If he got up after the 10 the comentator would have said something or atleast some sports writer.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 03:42 PM
Dont get you started on all the fouling Chico did!? Jose is probably the most well known fouler in the sport. Did you see the Diaz fight?

I know he's supposed to be a big fouler, the point is that night he wasnt! Even the commentators kept saying that Jose was fighting so clean, but Diego was doing everythign they expected Jose to do. So, just based on rumor, Diego should fight dirty..and then everybody should think Jose deserved it? Wow :eek:

Konstantin
05-09-2005, 03:43 PM
Castillo had 2 low blows back to back. Two warnings. He should have been penalized the second time.

Its not about Diego getting **** for fighting dirty. Its for Castillo not getting **** for it.

Bombardier
05-09-2005, 03:47 PM
Castillo had 2 low blows back to back. Two warnings. He should have been penalized the second time.

Its not about Diego getting **** for fighting dirty. Its for Castillo not getting **** for it.

Good point mentioning the low blows, people are forgetting about that. Castillo ain't exactly an angel.

Good debate going here. I'm almost sorry I have to leave work soon and miss the rest of it...almost :cool: .

{BrownBomber}
05-09-2005, 03:49 PM
Castillo had 2 low blows back to back. Two warnings. He should have been penalized the second time.

Its not about Diego getting **** for fighting dirty. Its for Castillo not getting **** for it.
first kd if you count them correctly was 15 seconds when he got up not to mention the time he got when he went to his corner for the mouth piece spiting.
those two shots were right on the belt could have gone either way.
Im saying this cause ive watched this fight 3 times after and can point out so many factors that were given to Corrales. Like tracy said he getting babied around by weeks.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 03:55 PM
Castillo had 2 low blows back to back. Two warnings. He should have been penalized the second time.

Its not about Diego getting **** for fighting dirty. Its for Castillo not getting **** for it.

Thats crazy..its "about" whatever any one person wants it to be about. I commend him for not deliberately fighting dirty. And I agree that a pt. could have been taken for the 2nd low blow..right after a pt. was taken for the repeated rabbit punches Diego threw.

Knicksman20
05-09-2005, 04:01 PM
Hey, this is a forum, and this is what we do, so nobody needs to chill out. You must not have been around after that particular Freitas fight cause lots of people raised hell.
CHico could have, would have, blah, blah, blah. The same goes for Castillo...if Tony Weeks hadnt given him time to clean off a mouthpiece that never touched the canvas cause it was still in his hand then he wouldnt have finished the 10th at all. Alot of could have and should have's...dont change any of it

1st of all you need to stop getting all emotional & chill-out meaning to stop hating just because your boy lost . 2nd Chico was well within the rules of what he did & how would you view Castillo if he did the same same & stopped Chico? I bet it wouldn't be like the venom you've been spiiting on Chico. I was posting on this forum when Popo lost & nobody really wanted him DQ'ed for that. Everbody was on his ass because he quit so don't get it twisted.

Konstantin
05-09-2005, 04:04 PM
I have to rewatch the round then but the only reason it could have been more than 10 is if Castillo went to the wrong corner or you were counting fast. And every other judge would have let him wash his mouth piece on any other fight. And those lowblows were not questionable and even if they were the ref thought they were'nt and should have taken a point the second time.

The you counting fast part is my view of you since you have JLC in your sig as well as Mexican Pride and could easily be biased.

tracylee
05-09-2005, 04:06 PM
1st of all you need to stop getting all emotional & chill-out meaning to stop hating just because your boy lost . 2nd Chico was well within the rules of what he did & how would you view Castillo if he did the same same & stopped Chico? I bet it wouldn't be like the venom you've been spiiting on Chico. I was posting on this forum when Popo lost & nobody really wanted him DQ'ed for that. Everbody was on his ass because he quit so don't get it twisted.

I'm not emotional..not in the least. You dont know me well enough to know what emotional with me is, by the way. I'm posting an opinion, just like everyone else. You dont have to read them..not even one. Just cause my opinion differs from yours does not mean I'm emotional. I havent cried, or called anyone here bad names, etc. So dont tell me I'm emotional when you dont know **** about me and my "feelings", thank you.
Yeah, everyone was on Popo ass when he quit..thats what I was refering to..noting to twist. How can you DQ a guy when he's quitting??

{BrownBomber}
05-09-2005, 04:10 PM
I have to rewatch the round then but the only reason it could have been more than 10 is if Castillo went to the wrong corner or you were counting fast. And every other judge would have let him wash his mouth piece on any other fight. And those lowblows were not questionable and even if they were the ref thought they were'nt and should have taken a point the second time.

The you counting fast part is my view of you since you have JLC in your sig as well as Mexican Pride and could easily be biased.
that doesnt make me biased and was going with seconds on a watch.

Knicksman20
05-09-2005, 04:13 PM
I'm not emotional..not in the least. You dont know me well enough to know what emotional with me is, by the way. I'm posting an opinion, just like everyone else. You dont have to read them..not even one. Just cause my opinion differs from yours does not mean I'm emotional. I havent cried, or called anyone here bad names, etc. So dont tell me I'm emotional when you dont know **** about me and my "feelings", thank you.
Yeah, everyone was on Popo ass when he quit..thats what I was refering to..noting to twist. How can you DQ a guy when he's quitting??

Because he spit his mouth-piece out twice like Chico. The only difference is he did it in seperate rounds but consecutively. You called Chico "chicken-****" amongst other things now. I wasn't trying to offend you, just posting my opinion like you because of how you were comming across in your previous posts.

tracylee
05-10-2005, 12:55 PM
Because he spit his mouth-piece out twice like Chico. The only difference is he did it in seperate rounds but consecutively. You called Chico "chicken-****" amongst other things now. I wasn't trying to offend you, just posting my opinion like you because of how you were comming across in your previous posts.


I called him chicken **** amongst other things? What other things..unless you mean the part about the wife beater..well, if the shoe fits...
I used the term chicken **** in reference to that particular tatic...others call it smart. And I dont recall Castillo doing it either, which is the difference between the two men.

SnoopySmurf
05-10-2005, 01:08 PM
I used the term chicken **** in reference to that particular tatic...others call it smart. And I dont recall Castillo doing it either, which is the difference between the two men.

I think Castillo was too dazed to think about it.

tracylee
05-10-2005, 01:12 PM
I think Castillo was too dazed to think about it.

I dont think that was it at all. If you know anything about the type of fighter/man he is, you know that he wouldnt do something like that. The day I see him use those types of tatics to buy himself time to recover is the day I go into shock. Just dont think he'd do that.

FrankJack
05-10-2005, 01:14 PM
Man, Corrales barely could walk out? That's serious. I'd like to see a rematch, but not anytime soon, they both need a very long rest period. I'd hate for something unfortunate to happen to either of them in the ring.

SnoopySmurf
05-10-2005, 01:20 PM
I dont think that was it at all. If you know anything about the type of fighter/man he is, you know that he wouldnt do something like that. The day I see him use those types of tatics to buy himself time to recover is the day I go into shock. Just dont think he'd do that.

True. He's a warrior. Chico was lucky not to have the ropes there to trap him from more punishment. But that's they way it sometimes is. You do have to wonder during the time Chico was delaying, JLC was also recuperating from that last second shot he took from Chico at the end of round 9. Yet Chico was able to come back and KO him.

tracylee
05-10-2005, 01:25 PM
True. He's a warrior. Chico was lucky not to have the ropes there to trap him from more punishment. But that's they way it sometimes is. You do have to wonder during the time Chico was delaying, JLC was also recuperating from that last second shot he took from Chico at the end of round 9. Yet Chico was able to come back and KO him.

Yes, that is true too. And I didnt realize til a friend pointed it out that I sounded angry..for that I apologize :o Guess I just get worked up a bit, and when some start to call my views childish, etc. and call me a hater that pisses me off. As for the fight, I just wish Tony Weeks had ended it when Chico pulled out his piece that last time, thats all. And if Jose hadnt gotten trapped on the ropes, the fight may have continued..but that was his mistake.
Hopefully after a very LONG rest period the money will talk and they will do it again. Regardless of who wins it will be a fantastic brawl (I hope) and with that there are no losers..not in the fan base anyway.

Brz_Pugilist
05-10-2005, 01:32 PM
Just give me a damn rematch, i am a Castillo fan, and i feel there should be a rematch after this.Either that or i would welcome a fight with Morales or a rematch with Popo.

jack_the_rippuh
05-10-2005, 01:38 PM
When I saw on slow motion how he just took it out, I was like disgusting, absolutely disgusting..

castillo
05-11-2005, 12:07 PM
Hey guys - I watched the fight in my hometown Mexicali on SKY Mexican Satellite and one of the commentators was Finito Lopez. Well to sum it all up he had Corrales winning the fight by 1 round up until the 10th and after the KO's he actually said that Corrales didn't have the heart of a True Champion but that of a coward for pulling stunts like that and that he should of been DQ'd.

Brz_Pugilist
05-11-2005, 12:09 PM
Strong words by Finito, i am surprised by this.I did think it was a cowardly act but its not illegal.It was smart as well.

jabsRstiff
05-11-2005, 12:14 PM
Hey guys - I watched the fight in my hometown Mexicali on SKY Mexican Satellite and one of the commentators was Finito Lopez. Well to sum it all up he had Corrales winning the fight by 1 round up until the 10th and after the KO's he actually said that Corrales didn't have the heart of a True Champion but that of a coward for pulling stunts like that and that he should of been DQ'd.


Someone should tell Lopez to shut the f*ck up. How could he sit there & question the guy's heart ?
He took a vicious beating....& took out the mouthpiece as a way to BUY TIME (for the last time, you dopes!).....to get another shot at WINNING.

Lopez was a fantastic fighter, a great one. But he only said what he said because a Mexican came out on the short end.
Did he call Julio Cesar Chavez a coward for his cheap move against, & cheaper technical "victory" over, Frankie Randall ?
Or when Oscar DeLaHoya RIPPED OFF the public & bailed as soon as Hopkins turned up the heat ?

castillo
05-11-2005, 12:20 PM
Why the F'k do you have to make this about race ? Corrales is also Mexcian in case you didn't know - Finito just expressed his opinion and you know what I'll have to agree - When it comes down to it Corrales cheated.

IwatchBoxing
05-11-2005, 12:25 PM
Why the F'k do you have to make this about race ? Corrales is also Mexcian in case you didn't know - Finito just expressed his opinion and you know what I'll have to agree - When it comes down to it Corrales cheated.
Corrales isnt Mexican, hes Columbian, I put it in my signature now.

jack_the_rippuh
05-11-2005, 12:28 PM
What happened with the whole thing between you and Slipx that I see in your sig?

Brz_Pugilist
05-11-2005, 12:28 PM
Corrales has been quoted saying he is black,mexican,colombian,i dont know his ethnicity.

I been saying this for awhile, a rematch should be in order but i dont think Corrales will give him one unless the big money is there, which it will be since the public probably wants a rematch. :boxing:

IwatchBoxing
05-11-2005, 12:29 PM
What happened with the whole thing between you and Slipx that I see in your sig?
Well on the same day or whatever as the Corrales fight, we made a avatar bet, and he doesnt want to change it.

castillo
05-11-2005, 12:30 PM
No he's Mex-American (if there is such a thing) beleive me I know.

IwatchBoxing
05-11-2005, 12:32 PM
No he's Mex-American (if there is such a thing) beleive me I know.
Yeah, just like LA is in Mexicali, sure buddy, the world doesnt revole around you :rolleyes: .

MetalVomit
05-11-2005, 12:33 PM
I dont think that was it at all. If you know anything about the type of fighter/man he is, you know that he wouldnt do something like that. The day I see him use those types of tatics to buy himself time to recover is the day I go into shock. Just dont think he'd do that.

Personally I dont think there should be a lot of controversy around this fight. I was pulliing for Castillo, simply because I dont like wife beaters. Corrales is a tough fighter and did what he felt he should do to stay in the fight, I hope there is a rematch simply because this fight was amazing.

Brz_Pugilist
05-11-2005, 12:33 PM
Hey Castillo, what makes u so sure, all i know is that his step-dad who waa his trainer was black.

castillo
05-11-2005, 12:39 PM
He was born in Columbia, South Carolina from mexican parents - I've followed his carreer -

DR. FREECLOUD
05-11-2005, 01:26 PM
He was born in Columbia, South Carolina from mexican parents - I've followed his carreer -

corrales? um he was borne in Sacramento, CA, USA. in fact i don't even think he speaks spanish. he had a translator tell castillo what he was saying.

abdiel2k3
05-11-2005, 01:28 PM
He was born in Columbia, South Carolina from mexican parents - I've followed his carreer -
so then hes pure mexican???
wtf

DR. FREECLOUD
05-11-2005, 01:32 PM
so then hes pure mexican???
wtf

i don't think so homie. i think he is just another american mutt.

czars_salad
05-11-2005, 01:34 PM
Corrales isnt Mexican, hes Columbian, I put it in my signature now.
you put everything in your sig :eek:

abdiel2k3
05-11-2005, 01:34 PM
i don't think so homie. i think he is just another american mutt.
lol
thats what i thought first
but this is the second time ive heard someone say hes pure mexican
so now im confused
do i like him or not?
lmao

Brz_Pugilist
05-11-2005, 01:36 PM
Dude does look mexican though, apparently i believe his mom is mexican, his step-dad was black.

IwatchBoxing
05-11-2005, 01:38 PM
DIEGO “Chico” CORRALES
Age: 26 (8-25-77)
Residence: Sacramento, California
Birthplace: Columbia, South Carolina
Record: 38-2, 31 KOs
Height: 5’10.5”
Reach: 70”
Manager: James Prince
Trainers: Joe Goossen

http://www.banner-promotions.com/Pages/Boxers/D_Corrales.html
He is NOT Mexican, he just from California.

abdiel2k3
05-11-2005, 01:40 PM
Dude does look mexican though, apparently i believe his mom is mexican, his step-dad was black.
well what was his real dad?
i dont think haven a black step dad qualifies u as being black
lol
id be shocked
cuz he def doesnt look pure mexican
he looks like hes got some sorta black in him

IwatchBoxing
05-11-2005, 01:41 PM
you put everything in your sig :eek:
Alot of free space :D .

SnoopySmurf
05-11-2005, 01:42 PM
DIEGO “Chico” CORRALES
Age: 26 (8-25-77)
Residence: Sacramento, California
Birthplace: Columbia, South Carolina
http://www.banner-promotions.com/Pages/Boxers/D_Corrales.html
He is NOT Mexican, he just from California.

I was laughing my ass off when someone said Chico is Columbian! BWAHAHA!

IwatchBoxing
05-11-2005, 01:44 PM
I was laughing my ass off when someone said Chico is Columbian! BWAHAHA!
Why? Didnt you know the co-feature with Polo was another Mexican vs. Columbian fight? It was a Mexican-Columbian fight card.

castillo
05-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Who gives a F'k if he's a mutt or not my point is that they both come from similar backroudns and a lot of people are making this a race issue. Corrales had to resume to dirty tactics to pull off a win and does not deserve any praise. By the way the WBC has announced that they will order an IMMEDIATE REMATCH !!!

SnoopySmurf
05-11-2005, 02:03 PM
Why? Didnt you know the co-feature with Polo was another Mexican vs. Columbian fight? It was a Mexican-Columbian fight card.

I'm talking about Diego Corrales. He's from Columbia, South Carolina. But someone said he's a Columbian national! :D

EDIT - WAS THAT YOU WHO SAID IT or is someone messing with your sig? :)