View Full Version : "Two Seconds From Glory" - Meldrick Tayler


'Sugar' Freddi
01-28-2010, 09:15 PM
What a shame. I was just watching Legendary Night: Chavez vs Tayler and I felt so sad about Tayler, who should've been able to continue. It's sad, really. I just read that Tayler wrote a book called "Two Seconds From Glory" and if I find, I am really going to read it.

Anyways, what do you guys think about that decision? Did Steele make the right decisions by stopping the fight or no?

One more round
01-28-2010, 09:18 PM
That still annoys me today Steele stopped it, terrible decision. Meldrick deserved better than that.

Method Checker
01-28-2010, 09:26 PM
Taylor definitely deserved the decision. The only reasons someone would say he didn't are either because they're die-hard Chavez fans or because they have no heart.

Obama
01-28-2010, 09:32 PM
Good call by Steele. Terrible, terrible advice from Lou Duva. :nonono:

'Sugar' Freddi
01-28-2010, 10:46 PM
I just saw the fight again, what a heart breaking. That f*cking idiot Richard Steele shouldn't have stopped it. The expression on Tayler's face was really heartbreaking when Steele called it. Damn, what a decision.

'Sugar' Freddi
01-28-2010, 10:54 PM
Good call by Steele. Terrible, terrible advice from Lou Duva. :nonono:

What terrible advice from Duva? Because in the Legenday Nights show, Duva said that he told him to just dance around and not fight, but some say that he told him to win the 12th round.

Obama
01-28-2010, 10:55 PM
Steele definitely did the right thing. Taylor didn't respond when Steele asked him if he was ok. Taylor was too busy trying to figure out what his idiot trainer Lou Duva was yelling at him to do. First Lou gives him the wrong strategy for the last round, then he distracts him at the most crucial moment of the fight. :nonono:

Obama
01-28-2010, 10:58 PM
What terrible advice from Duva? Because in the Legenday Nights show, Duva said that he told him to just dance around and not fight, but some say that he told him to win the 12th round.

I suggest getting a copy of the real fight. The Legendary Nights series is mostly fantasy anyways. Duva most certainly told him to go out there and "fight". "You gotta get him", something like that. Lou was far from a great trainer...bout the only thing he was good at was complaining. I wouldn't credit Duva to any of Meldrick's success either. That distinction goes to Willy Rush, who brought him to the gold medal.

'Sugar' Freddi
01-28-2010, 11:09 PM
I suggest getting a copy of the real fight. The Legendary Nights series is mostly fantasy anyways. Duva most certainly told him to go out there and "fight". "You gotta get him", something like that. Lou was far from a great trainer...bout the only thing he was good at was complaining. I wouldn't credit Duva to any of Meldrick's success either. That distinction goes to Willy Rush, who brought him to the gold medal.

Yes, Duva did distract Tayler after that knockdown because you could see when Steele asked Tayler if he was able to continue, Tayler was looking at Duva scareming from the corner.

I mean, regardless, there were a couple of seconds left in the fight, and Steele shouldn't have stopped it.

Obama
01-28-2010, 11:16 PM
Referee isn't given a clock to look at. Nor is he told to break the rules under any circumstance. Taylor didn't respond. Steele just did his job. I rate Steele as one of the greatest refs of all time tbh.

HaglerSteelChin
01-28-2010, 11:28 PM
Richard Steele has the rep of controversial decisions as his stoppage of Tyson vs Ruddock 1. He also did a horrible job in the Leonard vs Hagler fight. Leonard did hit after the bell several times and several low blows, not ONE point taken away from Leonard. Some refs would have allowed Taylor to continue knowing that there were only 2 seconds left. Just look at how Ref Green didn't stop Mancini vs Kim or even how Mancini vs Arguello lasted a few rds longer after Mancini turned his back to arguello, something that is often seen as resignation.

Obama
01-28-2010, 11:35 PM
Every ref makes plenty of mistakes. Comes with the job. Steele has been on the major stage as much as anyone. He's one of the 3 most used refs of all time I reckon. When you get that much more exposure, you're going to have that many more bad days that people can remember. People never seem to remember good reffing jobs, just ****ty ones. I consider Kenny Bayless the best ref in the business today, and I won't be surprised if by the end of his career people ride him as a terrible ref just because of a handful of fights.

HaglerSteelChin
01-28-2010, 11:53 PM
I think recently Tony Weeks and Steve Smoger are among my favorite refs. They don't get involved too much and allow the fighters to fight and never have given premature stoppages to the best of my recollection. Jay Nady is also a recent ref that I liked and i don't blame him for the whole Zab Judah incident with KostyaTszyu. Juhah needed to take 8 seconds and than get up but he got up to quick and started to wobble and Nady had no choice to stop it. I think after the Mancini vs Kim fight many refs are not going to take a chance of they think a fighter is hurt. I also like Joe Cortez who is often maligned.

I use to think highly of Kenny Bayless but i do think he gives too much warnings about low blows. When in fact they are not low blows. Pacman vs Cotto is a prime example. Pac always pretends he is getting hit low but whn in fact they are in the navel or border area. Pac even once fooled a ref to think he was hit low but when it was a clean blow- that was the Solis fight. Bayless kept warning about low punches that were not there. He also warns often about being careful with headbutts when fighters are in close. This is a distraction for inside fighter.

Who knows what would have happened if another ref did the Chavez vs Taylor 1 fight?

Obama
01-29-2010, 12:11 AM
I personally can't forgive Nady for Barrera vs Marquez.

BattlingNelson
01-29-2010, 04:44 AM
Taylor didn't respond to Steele so what was he gonna do? In my book Steele did the right thing. We might have been only one punch away from a fatality.

If anything Duva is to blame as also mentioned by Obama. Duva sprinted onto the ring apron and shouted like a madman clearly distracting Taylor. Without Duvas intervention Taylor just might have gathered himself enough to respond to Steele's (very simple) question.

JAB5239
01-29-2010, 05:25 AM
Taylor didn't respond to Steele so what was he gonna do? In my book Steele did the right thing. We might have been only one punch away from a fatality.

If anything Duva is to blame as also mentioned by Obama. Duva sprinted onto the ring apron and shouted like a madman clearly distracting Taylor. Without Duvas intervention Taylor just might have gathered himself enough to respond to Steele's (very simple) question.

I've always thought Steele made the right call. Im with you and Obama on this 100%.