Who would be the second greatest of all time bar none no questions asked...
is there one? Who do u think CAN be if they aint already..

Kazushi Sakuraba

Kazushi Sakuraba

do u think gsp has a chance to be top 3 or 4?

probably anderson silva

Anderson's making a strong run at it

dude has significant wins across 3 weight divisions (WW, MW, LHW), not many can say that.

Anderson's making a strong run at it

dude has significant wins across 3 weight divisions (WW, MW, LHW), not many can say that.

what do u guys think about anderson's OVERALL opposition? u dont think it may be in weak divisions? before i kept on hearing that but i dunno if thats true or not

p4p has to be anderson silva

P4P Anderson Silva>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pedor

GSP will be a dominant force for many years..

I like spider

GSP and Silva by far

Duno about greatest ever cos i dont watch it enough to say.... all i know is these 2 rule their divisions and the divisions around them if needed

Hopefully Silva takes on Machida and we see a great fight

Big Nog is one of the toughest mother****ers to come around he's definitely one of the best. I'd like to see GSP fight some more people, Anderson is creditable.

Who says the "Can Crusher" is the greatest? He's certainly no great to me.


fedor's entire reign is built off of weak opposition and two wins over Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.He has continually ducked top opposition and doesn't show himself to be a professional athlete either.

Who says the "Can Crusher" is the greatest? He's certainly no great to me.


fedor's entire reign is built off of weak opposition and two wins over Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira.He has continually ducked top opposition and doesn't show himself to be a professional athlete either.

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what do u guys think about anderson's OVERALL opposition? u dont think it may be in weak divisions? before i kept on hearing that but i dunno if thats true or not

he was the first to beat Mach Sakurai, which happened at 170. at 185 he's beat (and destroyed) most of the top competitors. the two destructions of Franklin, taking out Marquardt in 1 round, & especially taking out Hendo inside of 2 rounds carry alot of weight. MW was weak overally during his reign, but he still had some good challengers. moving up to fight Forrest was impressive as well. sure forrest has more heart than skill, but he was a former champ

its not just that anderson wins, its that he makes it look easy as long as he's not fighting people he doesn't think are worthy (Cote & Leites)

Kazushi Sakuraba

Full of win.

Fedor is great, but he hasn't done anything relevant since Pride folded. He's beaten a solid unknown contender in Brett Rogers and former UFC champs Sylvia and Arlovski. I know the latter two were champs, but that was when UFC didn't have a strong Heavyweight roster.

Anyways, I put Anderson Silva and GSP over Fedor. I would put Penn over Fedor as well, but he lost to GSP less than a year ago.

without a doubt Anderson Silva, maybe he is even better than Fedor

Fedor is great, but he hasn't done anything relevant since Pride folded.

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Seriously is this a joke? Could you please tell me where Sylvia and Arlovski were ranked universally when Fedor fought them. They were both top 5 HWs on any MMA websites list(Sherdog had Sylvia at #4). You recall Tim Sylvia beating the ****ing **** out of Nog for 3 rounds 5 months before he fought Fedor? Sylvia was considered a top contender at the time.

**** Sherdog had Arlovski ranked #2 in the world when he fought Fedor. Most other websites Had Arlovski at #3.

He's beaten a solid unknown contender in Brett Rogers




Rogers wasn't unknown when Fedor fought him. Rogers was unknown when Arlovski fought him but when Rogers KO Arlovski in under 30 Secs he became a known contender.

I think Anderson Silva's recent opposition >>>>>> Fedor's. He has fought atg fighters and beat them quickly. Fedor has struggled with a guy who was changing tires a year before fighting him.

Kinda tells you who's the best MMA fighter.

I think Anderson Silva's recent opposition >>>>>> Fedor's. He has fought atg fighters and beat them quickly. Fedor has struggled with a guy who was changing tires a year before fighting him.

Kinda tells you who's the best MMA fighter.



I agree that P4P Silva is the best in the world now BUT Rogers proved he was a legit guy when he KO Arlovski.

My question is why do you bash Rogers as a fighter when he was in fact a undefeated guy who had a KO win on a top 5 HW. What does changing tires a year before have anything to do with anything? You can't change facts. How do you know Rogers wouldn't steam roll Randy Couture?

Fedor is 31 - 1- 1

His only loss came from a cut, because the organization ends fights after a fighter gets cut. He wrecked the dude who cut him in that fight in the rematch.

The dude is UNDEFEATED. At the highest weight class, and it's not even his natural weight class, he could cut to 205 he if really wanted to. How can you guys deny Fedor as GOAT of MMA?

Anderson Silva is amazing, but lets not throw him in ionosphere levels. Forrest Griffin took quaaludes pre-fight, and that's on records.

Silva's amazing, but Griffin is literally a dude off the streets who trains hard. I love Forrest as much as the next dude, but it was like Roy Jones vs. Buster Douglas in there.

I got BJ Penn over GSP in P4P rankings, because he jumped weights. The dude even fought Lyoto Machida at HW - a fight in which i think he was robbed of a decision ala Shogun.

St. Pierre followed closely by Silva.

GSP smokes top competition on a consistent basis moreso than Silva or even Fedor.

Kazushi Sakuraba

This^^^no contest really.

I think Anderson Silva's recent opposition >>>>>> Fedor's. He has fought atg fighters and beat them quickly. Fedor has struggled with a guy who was changing tires a year before fighting him.

Kinda tells you who's the best MMA fighter.

When did he struggle in that fight? When a previous cut got reopened? When he was tossing a much larger man around the cage like a rag doll? Perhaps you're talking about Rogers failed Ground N pound that only landed 3 punches? Or maybe when Fedor cracked Rogers jaw so hard that his afro mohawk turned sideways...

Greatest Resume is GSP(even better than Fedor's)

Greatest overall skill wise is Fedor, and after that it's pretty hard to say. GSP and Penn are better in overall skill than Anderson Silva but Silva's ground defense coupled with his amazing standup makes him more dominant. It's hard to say who has the most skill after Fedor.

I think Anderson Silva's recent opposition >>>>>> Fedor's. He has fought atg fighters and beat them quickly. Fedor has struggled with a guy who was changing tires a year before fighting him.

Kinda tells you who's the best MMA fighter.

when's the last time Silva fought someone who out weighs him by over 35 pounds?

Practically every single one of Fedor's opponents in his career has been bigger than him. That just makes his skill level that much more amazing.

Anderson got dominated and submitted by Takase who is naturally smaller than Silva. Silva's ground game is weak. While Fedor can handle himself against world class ground fighters who are bigger than him, and world class standup fighters who are bigger than him. Fedor's skill is off the charts.

when's the last time Silva fought someone who out weighs him by over 35 pounds?

Practically every single one of Fedor's opponents in his career has been bigger than him. That just makes his skill level that much more amazing.

Anderson got dominated and submitted by Takase who is naturally smaller than Silva. Silva's ground game is weak. While Fedor can handle himself against world class ground fighters who are bigger than him, and world class standup fighters who are bigger than him. Fedor's skill is off the charts.

He also got subbed my Chonen, and completely Dominated on the ground by Carlos Newton..

Anderson Silva, then GSP.

When did he struggle in that fight? When a previous cut got reopened? When he was tossing a much larger man around the cage like a rag doll? Perhaps you're talking about Rogers failed Ground N pound that only landed 3 punches? Or maybe when Fedor cracked Rogers jaw so hard that his afro mohawk turned sideways...

Green K for that. Still laughing...


But yes, the Fedor hate is based on nothing more than Dana White saying that he was a farce like a year and a half ago, and people not paying attention to what Fedor has done. They just listen to Dana like there's no such thing as MMA outside the UFC. He's fought better competition AFTER the UFC killed PRIDE and bulldozed everyone. He ducks nobody, lets not forget he was about to fight Barnett who was a top 5 HW for a long time until Barnett pissed hot. He just won't sign Dana's contract because M-1 has him by the pubes.

Kazushi Sakuraba

This^^^no contest really.

Greatest Resume is GSP(even better than Fedor's)

Greatest overall skill wise is Fedor, and after that it's pretty hard to say. GSP and Penn are better in overall skill than Anderson Silva but Silva's ground defense coupled with his amazing standup makes him more dominant. It's hard to say who has the most skill after Fedor.

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Vitor Belfort

I'm sorry Saku is a legend, yes but no way is he anywhere close to relevant in terms of an ATG.

The fact that he continues to disgrace himself nowadays doesn't help his case much.