View Full Version : Who is the weakest Heavyweight champ in history?


Living Legend
05-05-2005, 11:48 PM
I say chris byrd...when I think of a heavy weight champ, I think of ali, liston, marciano, tyson, holmes, foreman etc...I'm used to heavywieght champs being the biggest and the baddest...You know when they step in the ring someone is going to get beat the f**k up...!!! :boxing:

Tarver is my dad
05-06-2005, 12:21 AM
I say chris byrd...when I think of a heavy weight champ, I think of ali, liston, marciano, tyson, holmes, foreman etc...I'm used to heavywieght champs being the biggest and the baddest...You know when they step in the ring someone is going to get beat the f**k up...!!! :boxing:

You would pick byrd over ruiz?

Tha Greatest
05-06-2005, 12:22 AM
I agree with the guy who started the thread

When I think of HW's I think Louis, Tyson, Ali, Lewis, Marciano, Dempsey, etc.

Byrd does not fit in that category:D

Foreman
05-06-2005, 12:34 AM
Leon Spinks, Michael Spinks, Bruce Seldon, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, Trevor Berbick etc...

The Fix
05-06-2005, 12:54 AM
Leon Spinks, Michael Spinks, Bruce Seldon, Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, Trevor Berbick etc...

lennox lewis? his right was an all time great punch. he was a very good champion.

with the exception of lewis and micheal spinks i would agree with your list. spinks was a decent champ def not on seldons level.

Subwayboy
05-06-2005, 01:06 AM
i remember watch Lewis/Tyson and thinking that Lewis straight right had a good amount of sting to it

The Fix
05-06-2005, 01:08 AM
i remember watch Lewis/Tyson and thinking that Lewis straight right had a good amount of sting to it

most def, that punch had some pop to it. and lewis used it well too

BBFM
05-06-2005, 02:43 AM
Lamon Brewster

the giant one
05-06-2005, 02:55 AM
Pinklon Thomas.He looked downright sickly in the ring

loangunZ
05-06-2005, 03:06 AM
yea how brewster was ever blessed with a title is beyond me but I'm sure he won't have it for long haha even he was suprised he won it

leff
05-06-2005, 03:33 AM
well i must say Ruiz because i expect a champion to box not wrestle.

marvdave
05-06-2005, 10:53 AM
Leon Spinks and Bruce Seldon by far

makes Brewster look like Tyson

scap
05-06-2005, 11:50 AM
Frans Botha I believed held a piece of the alphabet for a very short time.

GuyIncogito
05-06-2005, 12:12 PM
I'll put a vote in for big Johnny Ruiz.

SacTown1
05-06-2005, 12:42 PM
BRUCE SELDON, hands down, worst "champ" in history

Bruno #2, Botha #3, Ruiz #4

jatt the ripper
05-06-2005, 12:44 PM
Lewis should never have been even mentioned when asking who was the weakness. He was a great.

Foreman
05-06-2005, 01:12 PM
Fix, I just wanted to see if anyone was paying attention when I slipped Lewis in there. :D

AintGottaClue
05-06-2005, 01:28 PM
Lewis blows i ahte him, flame flame flame. booo lewis :firedevil :firedevil

marvdave
05-06-2005, 01:31 PM
Lewis blows i ahte him, flame flame flame. booo lewis :firedevil :firedevil

from what I understand, Lewis does blow :luvbed: :D ...but he was a great fighter

dino
05-06-2005, 02:14 PM
anybody who said lennox lewis is a dumb ass..lennox lewis beats any heavyweight ever 2 outta 3 times too big too strong too smart...back to the topic..weakest heavyweights - john ruiz ingamar johannson floyd paterson heavyweights post-jack johnson

czars_salad
05-06-2005, 02:44 PM
anybody who said lennox lewis is a dumb ass..lennox lewis beats any heavyweight ever 2 outta 3 times too big too strong too smart...back to the topic..weakest heavyweights - john ruiz ingamar johannson floyd paterson heavyweights post-jack johnson
too big? too smart? he fought small dumbasses :mad:

Dynamite76
05-07-2005, 06:11 AM
Either John Tate, Greg Page, or Tony Tubbs.

Imira
05-07-2005, 06:59 AM
Definitely Lennox Lewis, Lamon Brewster, WK.

I'm curious though, why do people say Michael Spinks? He had enough ability to make 3 title defences before it was stripped from him (Sancioning body BS). He never lost his title in the ring and the only fighter to a) beat him b)knock him down and c) knock him out was Tyson in his prime. I guess it's just opinion, but I'm just curious...

TheGreat1
05-07-2005, 07:23 AM
I agree with the guy who started the thread



When I think of HW's I think Louis, Tyson, Ali, Lewis, Marciano, Dempsey, etc.

Byrd does not fit in that category:D

maybe not but he is far from the worst

TheGreat1
05-07-2005, 07:24 AM
Definitely Lennox Lewis, Lamon Brewster, WK.

I'm curious though, why do people say Michael Spinks? He had enough ability to make 3 title defences before it was stripped from him (Sancioning body BS). He never lost his title in the ring and the only fighter to a) beat him b)knock him down and c) knock him out was Tyson in his prime. I guess it's just opinion, but I'm just curious...

are you serious with saying LL?

Kimmy
05-07-2005, 08:52 AM
I agree with an earlier mention of Bruce Seldon being the weakest champ. He won his title on a cut against an old Tony Tucker, beat one of the worse heavyweight challengers in history in Joe Hipp then got nailed in one round by, a past his best Mike Tyson. Seldon is certainly weak!

Warden11
05-07-2005, 10:45 AM
Lamon Brewster



Agreed but, I think you should give him a chance to see what he can do with it first. You never know maybe some totally different fighter will emerge now that hes champ.

I dont think this will happen but its just a little soon to be putting him on this list dont you think?

The Troll
05-07-2005, 10:51 AM
Chris Byrd is probably the weakest heavyweight champion in terms of pysical strenght. However that of course does not mean he is the worst heavyweight champion ever by any means. I will take John Ruiz as being the least talented heavyweight champion ever, however the guy did make 4 defences, so there were probably worse guys.

Worst Undisputed Champion Ever, would be an interesting topic, my vote goes to Sonny Liston for the dive he took against Ali, even though if he did not take the dive, supposedly the mafia threatened to eat his children or whatever, but he probably did it just for money, betting against himself to loose a 1st round KO the odds were probably like 1-30 on LIston loosing ViA KO in round 1, especially since the public hated Clay.

marvdave
05-07-2005, 12:07 PM
Definitely Lennox Lewis, Lamon Brewster, WK.

I'm curious though, why do people say Michael Spinks? He had enough ability to make 3 title defences before it was stripped from him (Sancioning body BS). He never lost his title in the ring and the only fighter to a) beat him b)knock him down and c) knock him out was Tyson in his prime. I guess it's just opinion, but I'm just curious...

Micheal Spinks was one of the best light heavy champs ever. He won two controversial decisions against old man Holmes.( no way he won the second Holmes fight, #1 was close) He beat Steffan Tangstad and Drunk Cooney. Not exactly great. He was a good heavyweight at best. I find it curious how you would question anyone saying Spinks, but then saying Lewis is one of the worst? That's nuts!

paul750
05-07-2005, 12:14 PM
people shouldn't discriminate aganist bryd just because of his style, the fact is byrd has been very succesfull and hs made many defences of his title, he certainly isn't one of the weakest champs in history, i think bryd would have given a lot of former champions very tough fights with his style, the same way as jimmy young gave foreman problems, i think bruce seldon has got to be at the top of the list in terms of being the weakest champ

Imira
05-07-2005, 02:05 PM
Micheal Spinks was one of the best light heavy champs ever. He won two controversial decisions against old man Holmes.( no way he won the second Holmes fight, #1 was close) He beat Steffan Tangstad and Drunk Cooney. Not exactly great. He was a good heavyweight at best. I find it curious how you would question anyone saying Spinks, but then saying Lewis is one of the worst? That's nuts!

It's not nuts to me. Lewis was boring and unimposing at times.

Imira
05-07-2005, 02:09 PM
Micheal Spinks was one of the best light heavy champs ever. He won two controversial decisions against old man Holmes.( no way he won the second Holmes fight, #1 was close) He beat Steffan Tangstad and Drunk Cooney. Not exactly great. He was a good heavyweight at best. I find it curious how you would question anyone saying Spinks, but then saying Lewis is one of the worst? That's nuts!

Is it? :p

marvdave
05-07-2005, 03:51 PM
It's not nuts to me. Lewis was boring and unimposing at times.

can't argue with that logic. :D

Lennox Lewis was an above average Heavyweight who would be a tough match up for any Heavyweight. We will have to agree to disagree, becuase I think Lewis was both exciting and imposing in the ring.

Brz_Pugilist
05-07-2005, 05:06 PM
Is this even a tough ?,hello Johny Ruiz :D

realheavyhands
05-07-2005, 07:35 PM
marciano fought in the weakest era ever ..he was the only prime good fighter...not his fault tho..but he should of lost to moore he was saved by the ref

MetalVomit
05-07-2005, 09:42 PM
I say chris byrd...when I think of a heavy weight champ, I think of ali, liston, marciano, tyson, holmes, foreman etc...I'm used to heavywieght champs being the biggest and the baddest...You know when they step in the ring someone is going to get beat the f**k up...!!! :boxing:


Does Lamon Brewster count? If so, he's the worst hw champ ever.

Atwa_66
05-07-2005, 10:37 PM
Lamon Brewster, Chris Byrd, and John Ruiz. Not that Ruiz is weak, but he is a sloppy fighter, and doesn't deserve to be in the ring with some of the people he fights.